Re: odd pains - mercury? Other?

[Guest guest]

, my son has these pains too. I believe they are from the

metals affecting the CNS. My son's started after we used several

rounds of ALA then added DMSA. Started with his fingers about 6th

round of ALA, then when we added DMSA, it got much worse especially

in his feet. The dosing I used was too high and he is still having

the issues on and off. We haven't chelated in almost a month now

because of this and sickness. I plan on starting ALA probably today

or tomorrow because we are finally getting over being sick.

Google these terms and see if this is what your son is experiencing:

Peripheral Neuropathy

Stocking and glove parathesia

If so, I think it's an indication your son needs chelation. In my

opinion, you should start with a very small dose of ALA using Andy's

protocol.

>

> My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

> able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

> hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

> kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

> nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to

be

> in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

> (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

> doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find

any

> reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

> don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

> could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else?

Does

> anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

> have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

> while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just a thought-Maybe your son has problems with Oxylates.

Kelley

From: fontana_christine_elise <fontana_christine_elise@...>

Subject: [ ] odd pains - mercury? Other?

Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2008, 12:20 PM

My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to be

in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

(which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find any

reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/ lead or something else? Does

anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

Oh boy did we have that!!! My dd since age 2 complained about sore

ankles. Especially the right one. We had all kinds of tests. I don't

hear her complain much since taking vitamins and doing the chelation.

Wierd isn't it?

On Aug 27, 2008, at 11:20 AM, fontana_christine_elise wrote:

> My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

> able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

> hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

> kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

> nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to be

> in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

> (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

> doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find any

> reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

> don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

> could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else? Does

> anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

> have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

> while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for your input. I am sooo relieved to hear that we

aren't the only ones who have dealt with this - it just seemed like

such a mystery, and that's always scary. I am just at the beginning of

this whole thing - meaning, considering chelation. Most likely we'll

be doing it, but I need to read for quite a bit first, and we'll be

meeting with a dan dr. in a few months. I am very curious to see where

his levels are at. Chelating just sounds so scary, and a lot of work

(mental and emotional especially) but I am sure well worth the

rewards. So glad to have found this group.

>

> > My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

> > able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

> > hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

> > kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

> > nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to be

> > in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

> > (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

> > doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> > foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find any

> > reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

> > don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

> > could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else? Does

> > anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

> > have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

> > while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

The kind of pains your son has were exactly like the ones I had when I had a

loading with a mercury compound (cinnabar). They are neuralgic pains that

can suddenly occur and vanish within seconds or stay for days on end. A soft

breeze of wind in my face or a slight draft was extremely painful. The pains

could occur in any part of the body but those in the face and hands were

simply hell.

The pains in my hands could be alleviated by flapping. I also remember pains

in the top of my feet.

There were other symptoms so much like those in autism that I started to

research whether mercury played a role. I suffer from Multiple Chemical

Sensitivity (MCS).

Being touched/hugged was painful, especially when people were wearing

acrylic jumpers.

Barium sulphate made the symtoms worse as it increased my hypersensitivity

to electromagnetic fields.

I could not bear to make eye contact. A critical glance was simply painful.

Every sense (auditory, visual, feeling heat and cold etc) was heightened to

an extreme.

One similarity of MCS and autism is the lack of glutathione to detox heavy

metals and environmental poisons. I had a good homeopathic MD who recommemed

an isopathic remedy - Cinnabaris in an LM potency - and I was free of the

pain within a week.

The source of mercury loading was from drinking water. When I visited the

place again I noticed the same symptoms.

In the mean time I had found a medicinal plant in Ireland, common dock

(Rumex obtusifolius/ alternatively R. crispus). Dock is one of the most

obnoxious weeds here. A herbalist told me shw was using dock to detox

mercury from amalgam dental " silver " fillings.

A tincture from Rumex crispus D1 (Weleda) brought relief instantly. In the

US a tincture from Rumex obtusifolius is available.

This plant helped me to detox other toxins as well e.g hexachlorbenzene,

parathion.

All the best,

Dorothee

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 5:20 PM, fontana_christine_elise <

fontana_christine_elise@...> wrote:

> My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

> able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

> hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

> kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

> nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to be

> in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

> (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

> doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find any

> reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

> don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

> could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else? Does

> anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

> have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

> while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing this, Dorothee. Isn't it the principle of

homeopathy to use a similar (or the same) substance to treat the

offending substance/problem?

What is the ingredient of cinnabaris? It's pretty scary to think of

someone taking a substance with a mercury compound in its name for

mercury poisoning.

One thing different between adults and children is the blood-brain-

barrier. I am not sure how far homeopathic remedies would go with

children if they do not chelate mercury from the brain. If these

substances truly work as you say they do, they may be worth using to

relieve the body while chelating the brain. Of course I would need

to know the exact ingredients and do a lot of research before trying

it.

>

> > My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's

been

> > able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in

his

> > hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

> > kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

> > nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem

to be

> > in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

> > (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it

really

> > doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> > foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't

find any

> > reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases

(I

> > don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if

this

> > could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else?

Does

> > anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used

to

> > have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

> > while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Body rubs, massages - just adding this idea to the mix ...All my

kids have different versions of these same symptoms - the peripheral

neuropathy tingling/pain/numbness, etc. (and I do consider it mercury

related, for all of them) While it doesn't " fix " it, massages are a

definite help around here - we like coconut oil the best, but also

use walnut or olive oil. My migraine girl needed her legs and arms

rubbed down daily, or more, for a long time - she was just under two,

when we discovered how helpful this was for her & it is another thing

that has only recently gone down...She " needs " a rubdown about once

or twice a month these days, tho' we still give massages regularly &

often, even tho they are not " needed. "

wishing you the best answers

elizabeth

>

> My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

> able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

> hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

> kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

> nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to

be

> in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

> (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

> doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find

any

> reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

> don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

> could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else?

Does

> anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

> have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

> while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes! I do often rub the area that is bothering him. It may not make it

go away, but at least it is a distraction and helps in that sense. My

son also requests the massages also - which I love to do anyhow! Such

a treat since most of the time he doesn't want to be touched.

It is so great to have some answers to these things (answer being

mercury most likely), and even more great to know there is hope for

improvement, but, at the same time it is so maddening to me. I just

get soo angry for all of the **** my son, my family (and for all of

the other children/families)have had to put up with all these years

b/c of these vaccines. I know we all must feel this way - truly,

maddening. I know it doesn't do any good, but can't help it. I try to

stay more positive minded most of the time!

> >

> > My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

> > able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

> > hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

> > kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

> > nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to

> be

> > in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

> > (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

> > doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> > foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find

> any

> > reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

> > don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

> > could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else?

> Does

> > anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

> > have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

> > while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you done a DDI hair elements test and applied counting rules? Have you

tried Epsom salt baths?

S S

odd pains - mercury? Other?

Posted by: " fontana_christine_elise " fontana_christine_elise@...

fontana_christine_elise

Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:20 am (PDT)

My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's been

able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be in his

hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and can

kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and then

nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't seem to be

in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains " spots

(which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it really

doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't find any

reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of diseases (I

don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if this

could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something else? Does

anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I used to

have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a good

while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

....oh, my girl too - she was so very

frequently " untouchable " - almost nonstop migraines for way too long :

( I soooo totally enjoy her newfound snuggly " hug me " self that is

going on these days - even when she gets that whiny demanding thing

that makes my head spin...it still is too too cool. I have warring

thoughts " eeerrrrr, just stop hanging on me " & " wow, check you out

trying to plaster your own self under my skin, how cool is that? "

Even the harder moments tend to be good moments,yk? ..love

that.....and, just wanted to note, this is our third year of really

working to address our most basic issues, from the digestion/belly

type of issues, to the adrenal (n'more) type of things, and while we

have had some really good results all along - this is the year/summer

that it feels like we are totally getting better, that it is all

coming together, and without all the preceding work, it would not be

quite this good. Frustrating, sometimes, at the amount of time

involved, but soooo worth taking the time for, yk? ....next stop,

actually chelating The adrenal thing, for me personally, is a

tough one - but close, very close I am & this totally rocks too

even as it makes me totally growl....

wishing you the best answers

elizabeth

> > >

> > > My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's

been

> > > able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be

in his

> > > hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and

can

> > > kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and

then

> > > nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't

seem to

> > be

> > > in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains "

spots

> > > (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it

really

> > > doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> > > foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't

find

> > any

> > > reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of

diseases (I

> > > don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if

this

> > > could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something

else?

> > Does

> > > anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I

used to

> > > have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a

good

> > > while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in

advance.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

There is so much out there on the subject

www.drkaslow.com/htm/mercury_s_influence.html

is qute good, have you heard about Zeolite we are using it with GREAT

RESULTS

mercurymadmother@...

> > >

> > > My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's

been

> > > able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be

in his

> > > hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and

can

> > > kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and

then

> > > nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't

seem to

> > be

> > > in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains "

spots

> > > (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it

really

> > > doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> > > foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't

find

> > any

> > > reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of

diseases (I

> > > don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if

this

> > > could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something

else?

> > Does

> > > anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I

used to

> > > have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a

good

> > > while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in

advance.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

for my son, these appear to be related to oxalate issues (very high on his OAT)

which are in

turn related to calcium regulation issues and yeast. it is worse after a round

of chelation.

chocolate, nuts, tofu and spinach are high oxalate foods.

apparently detox as well as candida can result in calcium oxalates in the

bloodstream which

cause body aches. high dose vitamin C supplementation makes it much worse for

him as

excess vitamin C is converted to oxalate.

we avoid excess vitamin C, calcium, high oxalate foods and control the yeast

(Diflucan). and

we will start vitamin K drops to improve calcium regulation.

[Guest guest]

Zeolite helps with the ankle pain?

On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:43 AM, wrote:

> There is so much out there on the subject

> www.drkaslow.com/htm/mercury_s_influence.html

>

> is qute good, have you heard about Zeolite we are using it with GREAT

> RESULTS

>

>

> mercurymadmother@...

>

>

> > > >

> > > > My son has had these pains throughout his body as long as he's

> been

> > > > able to tell me about them (since about age 3.5). They can be

> in his

> > > > hands, arms, legs, and feet. They can come out of nowhere, and

> can

> > > > kind of come in phases - i.e. several times in one week, and

> then

> > > > nothing for 2, etc. They can be any time of day. They don't

> seem to

> > > be

> > > > in his muscles, but are also not in typical " growing pains "

> spots

> > > > (which is the only answer I could find for it before - but it

> really

> > > > doesn't make sense - who gets growing pains on the top of their

> > > > foot?). I asked the Dr. several times about it, and she can't

> find

> > > any

> > > > reason for it. We had his blood tested for a variety of

> diseases (I

> > > > don't recall which) and everything is clear. I was wondering if

> this

> > > > could possibly be due to mercury/aluminum/lead or something

> else?

> > > Does

> > > > anyone else have this or heard of someone else with this? I

> used to

> > > > have to give him tylenol at times when it was bad, but for a

> good

> > > > while now we use the homeopathic arnica remedy. thanks in

> advance.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>