Re: Family freaking out over supplements

November 29, 2008

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If I were in the situation I'd simply ask MIL to back up what she's

saying and show you some proof. Get your husband involved so that he

is on your side 100%. Find some sources that your MIL would be more

likely to believe.

I'm not a big believer in using a ton of supplements but yours is not

exactly a long list compared to what some parents give their children.

Most people don't absorb their nutrients anyway. You could switch to

transdermal magnesium chloride or use tissue/cell salts to balance the

minerals instead of using pills if that's what he's taking now.

Healthy bacteria will continue to die off daily so if anything needs

to be kept from your protocol for sure, then it's the probiotics

(assuming they're good quality and doing the job).

If he can tolerate oranges, you could give him fresh orange juice

daily along with the Omega 3 and that would cover his Vitamin C need

plus give him the other 20000 or so phytonutrients that make Vit C

more effective. Don't give orange juice with probiotics though since

most brands won't tolerate the oj.

When the body is kept alkaline, then minerals won't get depleted as

quickly. Use Himalaya salt instead of processed, toxic white salt to

increase minerals a bit on a daily basis. It doesn't dehydrate the

body and the taste is much better too. If your son likes celery, you

can press him some fresh juice or blend it and make a raw soup.

My personal experience with using Vit C is that it needs to be taken

very consistently if you take it to prevent viruses. Every time I

missed a day, I wound up sick. This didn't happen when I switched to

making orange juice. This might be what's helping the nosebleeds but

MIL's house might just be drier. When I was kid I had them all winter

long.

You'll find when the mercury is out that the dark under eye circles

will vanish. My neighbor's daughter who is about 35 now was born with

them (Mom was extremely toxic with mercury) and then when she chelated

they went away (a year ago) and they haven't come back.

Sharon Hoehner

www.sharethecause.com/detoxqueen

>

> Just want see if anyone's in the same boat. I give my 4yo with SPD the

> following supplements:

>

> Multi-Vitamin

> Calcium

> Magnesium

> Vitamin C

> Omega 3

> Transfer Factor

> Probiotics (probably switching to biotin after GSE is done)

> GSE (he'll be off of this soon)

>

> My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him. Besides

GSE, I

> don't see anything wrong with this list (I don't see anything wrong with

> GSE, I just know it shouldn't be given long-term). He's only been on

it for

> 2 weeks, and both my mom and I have been taking it for months prior to

> giving it to him. I told him a lot of people give it to their kids.

>

> The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

since he was

> an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

because he

> caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> supplements. His cold symptom was completely gone the next day. I also

> caught the same cold as it's the same cold that's been getting

passed around

> the family, and my symptoms were gone the next day too. I'm sure it

was the

> GSE that killed it. She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't

understand

> the amount of research I do before I give him anything. He doesn't eat

> healthy, so I know he lacks a lot of nutrients.

>

> I was probably overdoing the C (he was getting 250mg/day) as one

time DS's

> nosebleed didn't stop as quick as it did. I made a mistake of saying

> something to DH briefly. He didn't say much then, but I'm sure he

told his

> mom. The fact is, he gets nosebleeds every time after he visits her

house.

>

> I don't mega-dose. I look at the RDA and what's optimal. I don't

even think

> they know that RDA is a bare minimum that people need. DH told me

that I'm

> going to make him very sick by giving him these things. I do give DS

a break

> here and there (mostly because we're out and don't have them with me).

>

> I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking about it

> altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you have any

> suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

Hopefully

> forever?

>

November 29, 2008

No, what you're giving is not a lot of things and they are normal

things you would find in a multivitamin. Everyone should take Omega

and probiotics as well. Don't listen to people who don't know. It's

hard, but you know more than your MIL.

I have a friend whose son has autism. His teacher told my friend that

diet and biomeds are crazy so now she will not do anything for him

because she believes this woman. It's so frustrating trying to explain

things to her, I had to give up!

>

> Just want see if anyone's in the same boat. I give my 4yo with SPD the

> following supplements:

>

> Multi-Vitamin

> Calcium

> Magnesium

> Vitamin C

> Omega 3

> Transfer Factor

> Probiotics (probably switching to biotin after GSE is done)

> GSE (he'll be off of this soon)

>

> My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him. Besides

GSE, I

> don't see anything wrong with this list (I don't see anything wrong with

> GSE, I just know it shouldn't be given long-term). He's only been on

it for

> 2 weeks, and both my mom and I have been taking it for months prior to

> giving it to him. I told him a lot of people give it to their kids.

>

> The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

since he was

> an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

because he

> caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> supplements. His cold symptom was completely gone the next day. I also

> caught the same cold as it's the same cold that's been getting

passed around

> the family, and my symptoms were gone the next day too. I'm sure it

was the

> GSE that killed it. She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't

understand

> the amount of research I do before I give him anything. He doesn't eat

> healthy, so I know he lacks a lot of nutrients.

>

> I was probably overdoing the C (he was getting 250mg/day) as one

time DS's

> nosebleed didn't stop as quick as it did. I made a mistake of saying

> something to DH briefly. He didn't say much then, but I'm sure he

told his

> mom. The fact is, he gets nosebleeds every time after he visits her

house.

>

> I don't mega-dose. I look at the RDA and what's optimal. I don't

even think

> they know that RDA is a bare minimum that people need. DH told me

that I'm

> going to make him very sick by giving him these things. I do give DS

a break

> here and there (mostly because we're out and don't have them with me).

>

> I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking about it

> altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you have any

> suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

Hopefully

> forever?

>

November 29, 2008

I say follow your momma gut,listening to other people is what got us into this

mess in the first place. Alison M

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " michellebondy " <myrubygirl@...>

> No, what you're giving is not a lot of things and they are normal

> things you would find in a multivitamin. Everyone should take Omega

> and probiotics as well. Don't listen to people who don't know. It's

> hard, but you know more than your MIL.

>

> I have a friend whose son has autism. His teacher told my friend that

> diet and biomeds are crazy so now she will not do anything for him

> because she believes this woman. It's so frustrating trying to explain

> things to her, I had to give up!

>

> >

> > Just want see if anyone's in the same boat. I give my 4yo with SPD the

> > following supplements:

> >

> > Multi-Vitamin

> > Calcium

> > Magnesium

> > Vitamin C

> > Omega 3

> > Transfer Factor

> > Probiotics (probably switching to biotin after GSE is done)

> > GSE (he'll be off of this soon)

> >

> > My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him. Besides

> GSE, I

> > don't see anything wrong with this list (I don't see anything wrong with

> > GSE, I just know it shouldn't be given long-term). He's only been on

> it for

> > 2 weeks, and both my mom and I have been taking it for months prior to

> > giving it to him. I told him a lot of people give it to their kids.

> >

> > The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

> since he was

> > an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

> because he

> > caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> > supplements. His cold symptom was completely gone the next day. I also

> > caught the same cold as it's the same cold that's been getting

> passed around

> > the family, and my symptoms were gone the next day too. I'm sure it

> was the

> > GSE that killed it. She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't

> understand

> > the amount of research I do before I give him anything. He doesn't eat

> > healthy, so I know he lacks a lot of nutrients.

> >

> > I was probably overdoing the C (he was getting 250mg/day) as one

> time DS's

> > nosebleed didn't stop as quick as it did. I made a mistake of saying

> > something to DH briefly. He didn't say much then, but I'm sure he

> told his

> > mom. The fact is, he gets nosebleeds every time after he visits her

> house.

> >

> > I don't mega-dose. I look at the RDA and what's optimal. I don't

> even think

> > they know that RDA is a bare minimum that people need. DH told me

> that I'm

> > going to make him very sick by giving him these things. I do give DS

> a break

> > here and there (mostly because we're out and don't have them with me).

> >

> > I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking about it

> > altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you have any

> > suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

> Hopefully

> > forever?

> >

November 29, 2008

And this sort of advice usually come from people who don't have an

effected child and don't have to live the the consequences that come

from following their bad advice.

DavAliNee@... wrote:

>

> I say follow your momma gut,listening to other people is what got us

> into this mess in the first place. Alison M

> -------------- Original message ----------------------

> From: " michellebondy " <myrubygirl@...

> <mailto:myrubygirl%40gmail.com>>

> > No, what you're giving is not a lot of things and they are normal

> > things you would find in a multivitamin. Everyone should take Omega

> > and probiotics as well. Don't listen to people who don't know. It's

> > hard, but you know more than your MIL.

> >

> > I have a friend whose son has autism. His teacher told my friend that

> > diet and biomeds are crazy so now she will not do anything for him

> > because she believes this woman. It's so frustrating trying to explain

> > things to her, I had to give up!

> >

> > >

> > > Just want see if anyone's in the same boat. I give my 4yo with SPD the

> > > following supplements:

> > >

> > > Multi-Vitamin

> > > Calcium

> > > Magnesium

> > > Vitamin C

> > > Omega 3

> > > Transfer Factor

> > > Probiotics (probably switching to biotin after GSE is done)

> > > GSE (he'll be off of this soon)

> > >

> > > My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him. Besides

> > GSE, I

> > > don't see anything wrong with this list (I don't see anything

> wrong with

> > > GSE, I just know it shouldn't be given long-term). He's only been on

> > it for

> > > 2 weeks, and both my mom and I have been taking it for months prior to

> > > giving it to him. I told him a lot of people give it to their kids.

> > >

> > > The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

> > since he was

> > > an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

> > because he

> > > caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> > > supplements. His cold symptom was completely gone the next day. I also

> > > caught the same cold as it's the same cold that's been getting

> > passed around

> > > the family, and my symptoms were gone the next day too. I'm sure it

> > was the

> > > GSE that killed it. She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't

> > understand

> > > the amount of research I do before I give him anything. He doesn't eat

> > > healthy, so I know he lacks a lot of nutrients.

> > >

> > > I was probably overdoing the C (he was getting 250mg/day) as one

> > time DS's

> > > nosebleed didn't stop as quick as it did. I made a mistake of saying

> > > something to DH briefly. He didn't say much then, but I'm sure he

> > told his

> > > mom. The fact is, he gets nosebleeds every time after he visits her

> > house.

> > >

> > > I don't mega-dose. I look at the RDA and what's optimal. I don't

> > even think

> > > they know that RDA is a bare minimum that people need. DH told me

> > that I'm

> > > going to make him very sick by giving him these things. I do give DS

> > a break

> > > here and there (mostly because we're out and don't have them with me).

> > >

> > > I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking about it

> > > altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you

> have any

> > > suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

> > Hopefully

> > > forever?

> > >

November 29, 2008

Listen to all the advice and input you get, doesn't mean you have to

take the advice, but it is still valuable. There may be something in

the supplements causing the dark circles under the eyes. My son has

this with papaya (papain in digestive enzymes).

I think the best thing you can do is educate them on the reasons you

are giving all these things. Show them information about Cod liver

oil (omega 3s) helping speech, Vitamin C and how it helps oxidative

stress (and how oxidative stress is found in people with autism), how

magnesium relaxes the muscles and digestive track which are often

sources of pain for children with autism. Tell them how methylation

in our kids is screwed up and B vitamins help that. Back up

everything you do and then whenever they question it, give your spiel

again about why you are doing it. That is what I have done and now

everybody is on board, knows why and doesn't question me anymore. If

you need some " back up " , email me...esoliday@...

>

> Just want see if anyone's in the same boat. I give my 4yo with SPD

the

> following supplements:

>

> Multi-Vitamin

> Calcium

> Magnesium

> Vitamin C

> Omega 3

> Transfer Factor

> Probiotics (probably switching to biotin after GSE is done)

> GSE (he'll be off of this soon)

>

> My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him.

Besides GSE, I

> don't see anything wrong with this list (I don't see anything wrong

with

> GSE, I just know it shouldn't be given long-term). He's only been

on it for

> 2 weeks, and both my mom and I have been taking it for months prior

to

> giving it to him. I told him a lot of people give it to their kids.

>

> The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

since he was

> an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

because he

> caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> supplements. His cold symptom was completely gone the next day. I

also

> caught the same cold as it's the same cold that's been getting

passed around

> the family, and my symptoms were gone the next day too. I'm sure it

was the

> GSE that killed it. She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't

understand

> the amount of research I do before I give him anything. He doesn't

eat

> healthy, so I know he lacks a lot of nutrients.

>

> I was probably overdoing the C (he was getting 250mg/day) as one

time DS's

> nosebleed didn't stop as quick as it did. I made a mistake of saying

> something to DH briefly. He didn't say much then, but I'm sure he

told his

> mom. The fact is, he gets nosebleeds every time after he visits her

house.

>

> I don't mega-dose. I look at the RDA and what's optimal. I don't

even think

> they know that RDA is a bare minimum that people need. DH told me

that I'm

> going to make him very sick by giving him these things. I do give

DS a break

> here and there (mostly because we're out and don't have them with

me).

>

> I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking about

it

> altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you

have any

> suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

Hopefully

> forever?

>

November 30, 2008

> My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him.

The MIL is relatively easy, in my experience. I would just not talk

to her. If she brings it up, indicate that the subject is not

available for discussion. If she won't shut up about it, do not allow

her to spend time with you and/or your child. Tell her that you do

not need unsupportive people in your life. If she won't support you

and love her grandchild, then she is not welcome in your house. I did

a variation of this with my MIL, and she changed her attitude

*somewhat*, which was beneficial for both of us. We reduced our time

with her, but the time we had was good for my kids.

If you are giving the supplements with a doctor's advice, tell her

that this is what his doctor has recommended. Ask her where her

medical degree is.

The husband is more difficult, because it is his child also. I would

ask specifically what he is freaked out over, and why, and then show

him the research. Tell him that if he discusses it with MIL, you will

do option #1 above.

> The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

since he was

> an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

because he

> caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> supplements.

Ask her specifically how it could possibly be the supplements, since

it was only one day, and you have been giving the supplements to him

for several weeks, plus it had happened in the past, before the

supplements were even given. Ask her for documentation, or tell her

to keep her opinions to herself. [And don't tell her about any

supplements any more.]

>>She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't understand

> the amount of research I do before I give him anything.

Don't talk to her about it any more. Tell her you are giving your

child what he needs to be healthy, and it is YOUR child, and therefore

she either supports you or you walk away.

>>DH told me that I'm

> going to make him very sick by giving him these things.

Ask him for documentation. Also ask for experiences. When was he

sick? How long was he sick? Which supp was causing the sickness?

Where in the literature does it say that supp causes sickness?

And then point out the improvements.

> I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking about it

> altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you have any

> suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

I would tell MIL the subject was not available for discussion.

With husband, I would ask if he wanted to be supportive, ask why was

he so concerned [probably his mother], and ask exactly what

information he wants/needs.

Keep all the bottles out of sight.

Dana

November 30, 2008

I feel your pain . I went through this over six years ago with

family, ex-husband, and the school.

I quickly learned that with relatives (other than my kids' father), I

was not required to justify myself, or even answer for that matter.

No response other than a smile can help you retain your composure and

your power in such situations. I was discreet about supps so as not

to stir the pot with skeptics.

For my ex-husband, the proof was in the pudding and education was the

key. I initially provided printed web-documents to support my case.

He was skeptical, but quickly came on board when he saw that the

supps, diet, and eventually, chelation, each made for immediate andn

long-term improvements. I continually provided information, including

giving him a copy of Andy Cutler's book and a few other books and

documents too. He has cooperated for more than six years now.

With the school, I had to walk a fine line and speak their language,

so I provided some of my kids' lab results and their diagnosis.

Pfieffer Treatment Center's results provided a very comprehensive

document which convinced the school to back off. This organization is

well-known in my area. I did not use their treatments, but their

testing along with the Doctor's Data Hair Tests, backed up my story

and gave me the freedom to proceed with my own treatment.

On a side note, the GSE has me raising my eyebrow as I would never

have given my kids a daily dose continuously for more than 3 days.

GSE has been referred to as a " crash and burn " approach to killing

everything off in one's gut. Weeks of GSE seems awfully long to me,

but I respect that you know what you're doing with your approach.

Since GSE is highly phenolic, it has me wondering if your little guy

has a phenol intolerance which would explain the circles under the

eyes. It would also mean that you might not see an improvement in

behavior if you're trading a yeast problem for a phenol problem.

At any rate, I never gave GSE without activated charcoal (to help

clean up the mess, so to speak) and speed up the yeasty behavior

recovery process. With yeast under control, I quickly returned them

to a low-sugar diet with plenty of enzymes and probiotics to promote

healing in their G.I. tract and calm, rational behavior.

For phenol issues, I originally put them on a low-phenol diet, but

eased up considerably with the introduction of methylating supps.

(Now they need neither a special diet nor methylation support.)

Good luck with your family. I know it stinks when you don't feel

supported in your efforts to help your child.

>

> Just want see if anyone's in the same boat. I give my 4yo with SPD

the

> following supplements:

>

> Multi-Vitamin

> Calcium

> Magnesium

> Vitamin C

> Omega 3

> Transfer Factor

> Probiotics (probably switching to biotin after GSE is done)

> GSE (he'll be off of this soon)

>

> My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him.

Besides GSE, I

> don't see anything wrong with this list (I don't see anything wrong

with

> GSE, I just know it shouldn't be given long-term). He's only been

on it for

> 2 weeks, and both my mom and I have been taking it for months prior

to

> giving it to him. I told him a lot of people give it to their kids.

>

> The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

since he was

> an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

because he

> caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> supplements. His cold symptom was completely gone the next day. I

also

> caught the same cold as it's the same cold that's been getting

passed around

> the family, and my symptoms were gone the next day too. I'm sure it

was the

> GSE that killed it. She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't

understand

> the amount of research I do before I give him anything. He doesn't

eat

> healthy, so I know he lacks a lot of nutrients.

>

> I was probably overdoing the C (he was getting 250mg/day) as one

time DS's

> nosebleed didn't stop as quick as it did. I made a mistake of saying

> something to DH briefly. He didn't say much then, but I'm sure he

told his

> mom. The fact is, he gets nosebleeds every time after he visits her

house.

>

> I don't mega-dose. I look at the RDA and what's optimal. I don't

even think

> they know that RDA is a bare minimum that people need. DH told me

that I'm

> going to make him very sick by giving him these things. I do give

DS a break

> here and there (mostly because we're out and don't have them with

me).

>

> I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking about

it

> altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you

have any

> suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

Hopefully

> forever?

>

November 30, 2008

Do you

> have any

> > suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

> Hopefully

> > forever?

> >

No suggestions per se, but a personal anecdote that might help. (Or

might not, if this is not the issue in your family.)

When my oldest son was 5 and in kindergarten (half days, afternoon),

he came down with pneumonia. I was living about a thousand miles from

my parents at the time. One night (I don't recall how long after the

initial diagnosis and start of antibiotics), I was on the phone with

my mom and made a remark like " I don't think he will be able to go to

school tomorrow. But we will see how he feels in the morning. " My

mom wigged out and began insisting that I absolutely could not send my

sick child to school, probably implying it would be criminal

neglect...yadda yadda. I refused to argue with her about whether or

not he was going to school. I politely reminded her that she was

about 1000 miles away -- so in no position to judge his condition --

and it was my decision to make as the parent, not hers. And again

stated that I did not expect to send him to school the next day but

would make that decision in the morning, based on how he looked in the

morning.

We got off the phone and a few minutes later my phone rang. It was my

older sister, the family peacekeeper. Mom had called her and given

her this colorful story about my abusive intentions to send my deathly

ill child to school the next day, come hell or high water, and begged

my sister to talk some sense into me. I calmly explained to my sister

that I had never said any such thing and the real issue was that mom

was trying to make decisions for me and run my life from 1000 miles

away and was affronted that I reserved the right to make my own

decisions. My sister knew mom could be like that and let it go and we

got off the phone.

This little incident was a major turning point in my relationship with

my mother. My mom continues to majorly interfere with the lives of my

sister and brother (and anyone else she can get her hooks into). She

tries but fails to majorly interfere with my life. Sometimes, it's

not what you are doing with your child but the fact that you are

making decisions on your own that's the " problem " (the thing provoking

the friend/relative/nosy neighbor who thinks they know everything).

If the real issue is that someone feels they have the right to run

your life, then arguing the details of the decision is the worst

possible thing you can do because it agrees that they have the right

to have a say in those decisions. When things like that happen, the

best policy is to not get into it with them. Don't justify. Don't

explain. Don't excuse. Don't mollify. But also don't be rude or

confrontational because it's just another means to give them an

opening and they shouldn't be given an opening. Sometimes the best

answer is along the lines of " Thank you for your concern. I've got it

covered. "

The only exception is your spouse, who really does have a say in how

the kids are raised. Others have covered that very well in terms of

sharing information, educating the spouse who wasn't doing the

research, etc.

However, on the off chance that it's an extremely hostile situation, I

will say what worked for me: I didn't let my husband know everything

I was doing for our sons. He knew they got supplements, he didn't

know how many or much details (why, what it was for, dosing, etc). I

very much downplayed it (without lying -- I was just discreet). It was

easy to do because I was on so many supplements, so he had no way of

knowing what was for me and what was for the kids, and he also worked

all day while I was home with them. He didn't believe any of it

helped. We are now divorced.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

http://www.solanorail.org

November 30, 2008

I have been there too. My family freaked out when we told about the

diet, supplements, etc...What really helped was a DVD called A Piece

of the Puzzle. It explained the diet, recovery, etc...A month after

being on the diet and started the supplements, they saw it was worth

it. Hang there, I know its hard, but what matters is your child.

> >

> > Just want see if anyone's in the same boat. I give my 4yo with

SPD

> the

> > following supplements:

> >

> > Multi-Vitamin

> > Calcium

> > Magnesium

> > Vitamin C

> > Omega 3

> > Transfer Factor

> > Probiotics (probably switching to biotin after GSE is done)

> > GSE (he'll be off of this soon)

> >

> > My MIL and DH are both freaked out over what I'm giving him.

> Besides GSE, I

> > don't see anything wrong with this list (I don't see anything

wrong

> with

> > GSE, I just know it shouldn't be given long-term). He's only been

> on it for

> > 2 weeks, and both my mom and I have been taking it for months

prior

> to

> > giving it to him. I told him a lot of people give it to their

kids.

> >

> > The other day DS had dark circles under his eyes. He's had that

> since he was

> > an infant. They get worse at times, mostly when he's congested

> because he

> > caught a cold. My MIL completely flipped out and said it was the

> > supplements. His cold symptom was completely gone the next day. I

> also

> > caught the same cold as it's the same cold that's been getting

> passed around

> > the family, and my symptoms were gone the next day too. I'm sure

it

> was the

> > GSE that killed it. She questioned magnesium too - she doesn't

> understand

> > the amount of research I do before I give him anything. He

doesn't

> eat

> > healthy, so I know he lacks a lot of nutrients.

> >

> > I was probably overdoing the C (he was getting 250mg/day) as one

> time DS's

> > nosebleed didn't stop as quick as it did. I made a mistake of

saying

> > something to DH briefly. He didn't say much then, but I'm sure he

> told his

> > mom. The fact is, he gets nosebleeds every time after he visits

her

> house.

> >

> > I don't mega-dose. I look at the RDA and what's optimal. I don't

> even think

> > they know that RDA is a bare minimum that people need. DH told me

> that I'm

> > going to make him very sick by giving him these things. I do give

> DS a break

> > here and there (mostly because we're out and don't have them with

> me).

> >

> > I'm going to ignore any supplement comments and stop talking

about

> it

> > altogether, but I'm sure it'll get to me again some day. Do you

> have any

> > suggestions on quick answers to make them stop talking about it?

> Hopefully

> > forever?

> >

November 30, 2008

Been there done that... I just say, " look how great he is doing. He is much

healthier now. " .

Back to your list. FYI --Transfer factor has egg in it.. lots of kids cannot

tolerate egg. My

son would get the dark circles anytime I gave that. I would back off the GSE for

now. See

how he does. You will know in a few days. Some kids also have problems with

Calcium

supplements. Lastly- does the omega have any soy in it? If so, soy can be an

issue for alot of our kids. I would pull those 4 . I would wait a few days.

Then, does he do zinc? I did not

see it on the list. I would add that first. Then tweak the others in one week at

a time..yes- one week at a time, so you can see who the culprit is.. Good luck.

We all go thru this, and

its hell to play this guessing game. But something is getting him..

From: nohg4me <kdironside@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Family freaking out over supplements

Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 1:18 PM