Guest guest Posted October 6, 1999 Report Share Posted October 6, 1999 I am curious as to how you could get Mad Cow disease from a pill that is made from Pigs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 1999 Report Share Posted October 11, 1999 Dear ; Mad cow disease is spread from " prions " which appear to act like viruses. It would be present in all animal tissue of an infected animal. In the meat, blood and glands. Its not like Hulda 's flukes. They are relatively huge parasites that exist in tissues and can be seen. Prions carry the mad cow pattern. No one knows what prions are. But sometime, just for fun, go out to a feedlot and see for yourself what they feed cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys. That alone would make you vegetarian. Best wishes, Earl RE: Armour I am curious as to how you could get Mad Cow disease from a pill that is made from Pigs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2000 Report Share Posted January 10, 2000 Earl - You wrote: > If a person has an underactive thyroid, adrenal glands, thymus or pancreas, > the body does not want these hormones... " replaced " ! What the body wants is > for someone to ask: WHY are the glands not functioning as they should?? > Thyroid: in the case of hypothyroidism, the most useful answer is: the > thyroid lacks iodine, B6, zinc, selenium, manganese, trace elements and 'B' > vitamins, tyrosine and maybe glutamine. > When you supply these elements [Thyrodine], the thyroid generally returns to > full function once again. What happens if, as I am, you are very allergic to B vitamins...I have tried, throughout my life to be healthy, eat right, exercise, etc., and I still find myself diagnosed as 'hypothyroid.' And yes, I've had a lot of stress in my life... So, I've been thinking about your formula for some time, but B vitamins put me asleep as fast as not taking my Armour...actually, faster. I would love to get off Armour, but I know that I sleep about 22 hours a day without it and have constant and chronic pneumonia...And I can't take any supplements with B vitamins. Any thoughts about alternatives? And yes, I've tried every 'pure, purer and purist' B vitamins I could find. They still put me to sleep, upset my stomach or both. Best, Karla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2000 Report Share Posted February 23, 2000 Hi Susie, No, you don't wait to do the switch. When my doctor took me 'off' Armour (I really tried to talk him into keeping me on it, but to no avail) and onto Synthroid (I am now on Levoxyl) I started immediately. Sandy >From: " Susie Keener " <fredsus@...> > >Hi, >I will be switching from synthroid to Armour thyroid...does anyone know *for >sure* if I need to wait any amount of time after going off synthroid to >switch to Armour or can I go straight into taking Armour? >TIA, >Susie > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa! Rates as low as 2.9% >Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR, online balance transfers, Rewards Points, >no hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and get the >credit you deserve! Apply now! Get your NextCard Visa at: >1/913/5/_/62054/_/951240867/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2000 Report Share Posted May 10, 2000 Hi Joy and Ann Who do you think funds doctors? Pharmaceutical companies pay for a lot of stuff... and where do you think they get their information? Those same pharmaceutical companies who have NOTHING to gain by your doctor prescribing Armour. It's way cheaper than the synthetics alternatives. I wonder who put out the information about Armour being obsolete... Way back in the dark ages before standardizing techniques, Armour was more variable. However, now and for quite some time actually, armour is standardized to the same tolerances as the synthetic preparations. So, your doctors have not kept up with current information, for one thing. Email Darryl Wesche, dwesche@..., and he will send you lots of info about Armour and how it's processed. What the doctors don't tell you is that Synthroid and the synthetic drugs are not even approved by the FDA! They are currently undergoing examination on their own merits....previously they were temporarily accepted as a piggyback...they claimed they were not a new drug, just a reformulation of Armour! Because of various problems, they are now being forced to apply on their own merits! Drug companies had to submit the applications last year, and approval, if given, will happen this year or next! I would not trust Synthroid at all, as you may know there is a class action suit against them, because they hired some researcher to prove their preparation was " better " than others marketed, and the research showed it was not. They moved to hide the research and prevent it's publication, all the while charging more for their brand, claiming it was better. Now they're having to repay customers who filed a class action suit against them. I do not want to do business with a company as dishonest as that. Also, I've read research that people using synthetic preparations are more likely to have side effects, such as kidney problems, panic attacks, depression and hair loss. I could go on and on, but the point is here, 1. Don't believe everything your doctor tells you. He may be misinformed or have received biased information. Always ask for sources of information and check them out. 2. No one cares more for how you feel than you do. Don't accept less than feeling really well. 3. Educate yourself. You will be your own best advocate. 4. If one doctor doesn't listen or isn't willing to work for you, fire them, and get one who will. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2000 Report Share Posted May 10, 2000 Thank you Ann, Pam, Karla and Kip for your suggestions and support!--- Re:Armour Hi Joy and Ann Who do you think funds doctors? Pharmaceutical companies pay for a lot of stuff... and where do you think they get their information? Those same pharmaceutical companies who have NOTHING to gain by your doctor prescribing Armour. It's way cheaper than the synthetics alternatives. I wonder who put out the information about Armour being obsolete... Way back in the dark ages before standardizing techniques, Armour was more variable. However, now and for quite some time actually, armour is standardized to the same tolerances as the synthetic preparations. So, your doctors have not kept up with current information, for one thing. Email Darryl Wesche, dwesche@..., and he will send you lots of info about Armour and how it's processed. What the doctors don't tell you is that Synthroid and the synthetic drugs are not even approved by the FDA! They are currently undergoing examination on their own merits....previously they were temporarily accepted as a piggyback...they claimed they were not a new drug, just a reformulation of Armour! Because of various problems, they are now being forced to apply on their own merits! Drug companies had to submit the applications last year, and approval, if given, will happen this year or next! I would not trust Synthroid at all, as you may know there is a class action suit against them, because they hired some researcher to prove their preparation was " better " than others marketed, and the research showed it was not. They moved to hide the research and prevent it's publication, all the while charging more for their brand, claiming it was better. Now they're having to repay customers who filed a class action suit against them. I do not want to do business with a company as dishonest as that. Also, I've read research that people using synthetic preparations are more likely to have side effects, such as kidney problems, panic attacks, depression and hair loss. I could go on and on, but the point is here, 1. Don't believe everything your doctor tells you. He may be misinformed or have received biased information. Always ask for sources of information and check them out. 2. No one cares more for how you feel than you do. Don't accept less than feeling really well. 3. Educate yourself. You will be your own best advocate. 4. If one doctor doesn't listen or isn't willing to work for you, fire them, and get one who will. Pam ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Make new friends, find the old at Classmates.com: 1/4052/11/_/62054/_/957964028/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2000 Report Share Posted May 11, 2000 The drug companies have gained and do have a lot of control of what doctors prescribe to their patients. I work in a clinic for a large HMO and they have just recently set policy for NO drug company representation directly to doctors or clinic offices. Every drug representative MUST work through the purchasing department and ALL samples are taken only to the pharmacy for distribution with a prescription. They discovered (what we the little people have known for years!) that the physicians and " influential " persons were receiving all sorts of wonderful gifts like cruises, golf clubs, country club memberships, etc directly from the drug companies for " pushing " their products. Bottom line is you must research because you cannot trust anyone!! Barb Kreuziger ziger@... Honor Society Member Avon Representative Since C-22 1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2000 Report Share Posted May 14, 2000 Dear All: Heres a little bit of data for those of you who feel that Armour [pig thyroid gland] has some offering to make. This was received from the not milk web site today, 14 May 2000. The Food and Drug Administration has a mad cow disease committee and will be conducting secret and private meetings on June 2, 2000. If you're a bit skeptical about taking possibly infected meat sources and you're not particularly elated about dosing yourself with drugs, there is still another, far more successful and far less expendive way to go to restore thyroid function... www.thyrodine.com Best wishes, Earl From: Barb [mailto:ziger@...] Sent: Friday, 12 May 2000 01:54 hypothyroidismegroups Subject: Re: Re:Armour The drug companies have gained and do have a lot of control of what doctors prescribe to their patients. I work in a clinic for a large HMO and they have just recently set policy for NO drug company representation directly to doctors or clinic offices. Every drug representative MUST work through the purchasing department and ALL samples are taken only to the pharmacy for distribution with a prescription. They discovered (what we the little people have known for years!) that the physicians and " influential " persons were receiving all sorts of wonderful gifts like cruises, golf clubs, country club memberships, etc directly from the drug companies for " pushing " their products. Bottom line is you must research because you cannot trust anyone!! Barb Kreuziger ziger@... Honor Society Member Avon Representative Since C-22 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Double your manufacturer's warranty on all computers, home appliances, and electronics AND win up to $500 towards your purchase! 1/3749/11/_/62054/_/958053741/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 Ange, Armour is a natural thyroid med. It is derived from pig thyroid. It is a T3/T4 med and I think, was one of the original thyroid medicines, going back many years. I think Armour is the trade/brand name. Take care, ---------------------------- > Hi guys, > Just a question about armour. Is it a generic name? I have tried searching > through the pharmacy directory using the name and nothing came up. Just > wondering whether it might be a different name being used in Australia? > Thanks. > > Ange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2002 Report Share Posted August 5, 2002 I have the generic of Armour...NATURE.... SUSAN --- rja86webtvnet <reneeandjerry@...> wrote: > Ange, > Armour is a natural thyroid med. It is derived from > pig thyroid. It is a T3/T4 med and I think, was one > of the original thyroid medicines, going back many > years. I think Armour is the trade/brand name. > Take care, > > ---------------------------- > > > > Hi guys, > > Just a question about armour. Is it a generic > name? I have tried searching > > through the pharmacy directory using the name and > nothing came up. Just > > wondering whether it might be a different name > being used in Australia? > > Thanks. > > > > Ange > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 , I agree that your TSH is a bit too high. What dosage and what med are you taking again? I'm taking 137 mcg. daily of Levothroid and my TSH is 0.1 (just had it tested last week). I'm feeling really good, too. Best wishes, Celeste P. wrote: > I was just curious if you can order Armour without a prescrip for it? > I'd like to try it but my doc seems to be dragging his feet on > changing my meds. ( my TSH was up to 2.92 and he's happy with that - > I " M NOT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2002 Report Share Posted December 14, 2002 My current amount of Levoxyl is 75 mcg. I've got some 50's here and thought about splitting it and taking it with the 75, that would put me at 100. I could do what he did and that was alter the days that I take it. > > I was just curious if you can order Armour without a prescrip for > it? > > I'd like to try it but my doc seems to be dragging his feet on > > changing my meds. ( my TSH was up to 2.92 and he's happy with that - > > I " M NOT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 In a message dated 12/13/2002 12:21:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, nabie67@... writes: > I was just curious if you can order Armour without a prescrip for it? > I'd like to try it but my doc seems to be dragging his feet on > changing my meds. Yes, you can order it over theweb. You can do a search for " medicines without prescription " or something similar and you'll get listings for business that sell this stuff. You can buy from Mexico, Canada,(which is what my medical student friend does b/c she doesn't have health insurance and it's cheaper to buy what her doc tells her to take from Canada than to go through a pharmacy with a prescription) or from Europe. I'm traveling right now and I don't have access to my favorite links but if youdon't have any luck finding someplace, email the board again and in about five days I'll be home and I can send you the places what I've used before. Try MedsMex.com. That's one I think remember. in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 ___________________________________ QUESTION How do I switch from a levothyroxine T4-only drug to Armour®Thyroid? ANSWER If you are a patient, be sure to discuss any desire to change medication with your doctor or other healthcare professional. Dosage conversion information is provided below for guidance to the doctor or other healthcare professional in selection of approximate equivalent doses. The basic " rule of thumb " in converting thyroid doses is that 100 mcg of T4 is roughly equivalent to 25 mcg of T3, or 1 grain (60 mg) of desiccated thyroid (Armour® Thyroid), or liotrix-1 (Thyrolar®– 1)a. Please refer to the table below for approximate equivalent strengths of various thyroid preparations, based on clinical responses as taken from the USP-DI.1,2 1,2 Drug & #8594; Thyroid Tablets, USP (Armour® Thyroid) Liotrix Tablets, USP (Thyrolar® a) Liothronine Tablets, USP (Cytomel® Levothyroxine Tablets, USP (Unithroid® c, Levoxyl® d, Levothroid® e, Synthroid® f) Approx. Dose Equivalent 1/4 grain (15 mg) 1/4 6.25 mcg 25 mcg (.025 mg) Approx. Dose Equivalent 1/2 grain (30 mg) 1/2 12.5 mcg 50 mcg (.05 mg) Approx. Dose Equivalent 1 grain (60 mg) 1 25 mcg 100 mcg ( .1 mg) Approx. Dose Equivalent 1 1/2 grains (90 mg) 1 1/2 37.5 mcg 150 mcg (.15 mg) Approx. Dose Equivalent 2 grains (120 mg) 2 50 mcg 200 mcg (.2 mg) Approx. Dose Equivalent 3 grains (180 mg) 3 75 mcg 300 mcg (.3 mg) Note: Please keep in mind that dose adjustments may be required. Thyroid dosing is highly specific and will need to be individualized by your doctor or other healthcare professional to achieve maximum benefit and optimal patient health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2004 Report Share Posted March 28, 2004 Hi Kim I would mail you some but I don't have enough right now. Also it comes in different doses. Why not order Armour off the internet? Gracia > dont suppose someone would mail me like 5 armour pills to see if I could > handle. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Hi Kim, Have you had a doctor prescribe armour for you? Where in the U. S. are you? What state? email me more about your situation...have to be careful not to take too much, gradually take so body gets used to it. write me personally. D.G >From: " Kim " <kckim@...> >Reply-hypothyroidism ><hypothyroidism > >Subject: armour >Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 21:32:17 -0800 > >dont suppose someone would mail me like 5 armour pills to see if I could >handle. > _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage. Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us & page=hotmail/es2 & ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/dire\ ct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 Kim,, armour is only like 12.00 for a 30 month supply, or it is here in indiana anyways. you really wouldnt be losing much if you cant take them. I know my phar,, let me taking my synthroid back since I couldnt take them anymore because of how they made me feel and then I got on armour and feel great- I am not sure though- Keisha Gracia <circe@...> wrote: Hi Kim I would mail you some but I don't have enough right now. Also it comes in different doses. Why not order Armour off the internet? Gracia > dont suppose someone would mail me like 5 armour pills to see if I could > handle. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2004 Report Share Posted March 29, 2004 my dr wont prescrbe armour Re: armour > Kim,, armour is only like 12.00 for a 30 month supply, or it is here in indiana anyways. you really wouldnt be losing much if you cant take them. I know my phar,, let me taking my synthroid back since I couldnt take them anymore because of how they made me feel and then I got on armour and feel great- I am not sure though- Keisha > > Gracia <circe@...> wrote: > Hi Kim I would mail you some but I don't have enough right now. Also it > comes in different doses. Why not order Armour off the internet? > Gracia > > > dont suppose someone would mail me like 5 armour pills to see if I could > > handle. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Welcome! Armour seems to be the thyroid drug of choice for a majority of the members here. It saved my life. I was on synthroid for approximately 3 years- I still felt like crap (that's putting it nice). If you aren't feeling like you were before hypo- or don't remember what feeling good feels like- do yourself a favor, check it out. I got caught up in the HMO thing a few years ago and a doctor wanted to change me back to synthroid. I was quickly reminded what feeling like crap felt like. I now self treat like a few others- all I have to say is ARMOUR ROCKS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 you can get info about Armour thyroid at http://www.armourthyroid.com Most docs Rx $ynthroid b/c of aggressive drug company marketing practices ($$$$$). Most patients prefer Armour though. Gracia > What type of medication is this? I have never heard of it. I have > been on synthroid for over a year now - Is it similar to synthroid? > Should I be looking into this medication? or Is it for something else? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 Armour is a natural thyroid product made from the thyroid glands of pigs. It has all 6 of the T hormones in it. Synthroid has only T4 and it's synthetic thyroid (you can see where the name, " Synthroid " comes from) hormone. There has been at least one study that showed people tend to do better if they have some T3 also, which Armour has. mwcislo <mwcislo@...> wrote:What type of medication is this? I have never heard of it. I have been on synthroid for over a year now - Is it similar to synthroid? Should I be looking into this medication? or Is it for something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 I was just curious about something. Those of you on armour: was your T3 low? normal? before getting on the medication? ----Original Message Follows---- From: mphedding@... Reply-hypothyroidism hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Armour Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:32:28 -0400 Welcome! Armour seems to be the thyroid drug of choice for a majority of the members here. It saved my life. I was on synthroid for approximately 3 years- I still felt like crap (that's putting it nice). If you aren't feeling like you were before hypo- or don't remember what feeling good feels like- do yourself a favor, check it out. I got caught up in the HMO thing a few years ago and a doctor wanted to change me back to synthroid. I was quickly reminded what feeling like crap felt like. I now self treat like a few others- all I have to say is ARMOUR ROCKS!!! _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 I don't know, never had very good testing done before Armour. Gracia > I was just curious about something. Those of you on armour: > was your T3 low? normal? before getting on the medication? > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: mphedding@... > Reply-hypothyroidism > hypothyroidism > Subject: Re: Armour > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:32:28 -0400 > > Welcome! Armour seems to be the thyroid drug of choice for a majority of > the members here. It saved my life. I was on synthroid for approximately 3 > years- I still felt like crap (that's putting it nice). If you aren't > feeling like you were before hypo- or don't remember what feeling good feels > like- do yourself a favor, check it out. I got caught up in the HMO thing a > few years ago and a doctor wanted to change me back to synthroid. I was > quickly reminded what feeling like crap felt like. I now self treat like a > few others- all I have to say is ARMOUR ROCKS!!! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN > House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 Mine was low normal...within range but at the low end of midrange. K a r e n P <karlynn17@...> wrote:I was just curious about something. Those of you on armour: was your T3 low? normal? before getting on the medication? ----Original Message Follows---- From: mphedding@... Reply-hypothyroidism hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Armour Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 16:32:28 -0400 Welcome! Armour seems to be the thyroid drug of choice for a majority of the members here. It saved my life. I was on synthroid for approximately 3 years- I still felt like crap (that's putting it nice). If you aren't feeling like you were before hypo- or don't remember what feeling good feels like- do yourself a favor, check it out. I got caught up in the HMO thing a few years ago and a doctor wanted to change me back to synthroid. I was quickly reminded what feeling like crap felt like. I now self treat like a few others- all I have to say is ARMOUR ROCKS!!! _________________________________________________________________ Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2004 Report Share Posted June 11, 2004 You guys are great thanks so much! What type of medication is this? I have never heard of it. I have > been on synthroid for over a year now - Is it similar to synthroid? > Should I be looking into this medication? or Is it for something else? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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