RE: SELF ABUSE...My beautiful boy is beating his head and biting his fist!!! Help!

December 2, 2008

Yes, I have an idea. Violence may be the result of high testosterone. Suggest

you test for high testosterone. This is a simple blood test at lab corp. If

high, then you need to lower testosterone via Lupron and chelate.

Good luck.

From: Rhonda <designbybuess@...>

Subject: [ ] SELF ABUSE...My beautiful boy is beating his head and

biting his fist!!! Help!

Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:19 PM

My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums by screaming

is now (for the

last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he doesn't get

what he wants,

when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he doesn't understand.

He is also

biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point bled. He has

40 hour-week

ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is escalating!

Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful little boy

hurt himself,

leaving bruises all over his face

He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a ton of tests

and are waiting

for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would love some

input.

Thank you,

Rhonda

(mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the last 7

years...both typical

before vaccinations! )

December 2, 2008

Oh no Rhonda.

I am not the best one to help you, but I hope someone speaks up soon.

Your really in my prayers.

On Dec 2, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Rhonda wrote:

> My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums

> by screaming is now (for the

> last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he

> doesn't get what he wants,

> when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he

> doesn't understand. He is also

> biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point

> bled. He has 40 hour-week

> ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is

> escalating!

>

> Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful

> little boy hurt himself,

> leaving bruises all over his face

>

> He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a

> ton of tests and are waiting

> for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would

> love some input.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Rhonda

> (mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the

> last 7 years...both typical

> before vaccinations!)

>

December 2, 2008

From two old posts of mine:

" My 18 year old, very verbal child says:

" I used to bang my head on the floor because the pain helped me focus

and block out distractions. " (He went on endlessly about this. I am

summing up!) "

18 year old son is now 21. So the above post is roughly 3 years old.

From June 2008, here is another post of mine:

My son used to beat his head on the floor. He explained to me once

that he did it because the pain helped him focus. So I am wondering

if maybe your son bites his hand to give him something to focus on

when he is overwhelmed by what is going on around him? My son was

too young at the time to remember clearly now what went on and

exactly WHY it helped him focus, but I wonder if having a strong

internal sensation might have helped counter an overload of external

sensations causing sensory overload.

My son adds: " Pain is unique among sensations in that it activates

the entire brain. If you do an EEG, the entire brain lights up in

reaction to pain, like a really glitchy christmas tree, with

different sections flashing on and off at different rates and

different times. "

I think he is trying to suggest that it helps overcome the

glitchiness of his own brain. He adds that he did this stuff when

he had threads of thoughts he could not shut down. Pain allowed him

to shut those down, almost like rebooting a computer, and start anew.

Good luck figuring this out.

-----------

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

http://www.solanorail.org

December 2, 2008

very quick thought...this most often feels related to " ocd " type of

problems around here, rather concurrent in nature - if that makes any

sense. Maybe things that help ocd might help with this - they have

here. Part & parcel of migraine land for one of my older children here

which also makes it feel like a coping behavior too. big

sigh...wishing you the best, elizabeth

>

> My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums by

screaming is now (for the

> last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he

doesn't get what he wants,

> when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he doesn't

understand. He is also

> biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point

bled. He has 40 hour-week

> ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is

escalating!

>

> Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful

little boy hurt himself,

> leaving bruises all over his face

>

> He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a

ton of tests and are waiting

> for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would

love some input.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Rhonda

> (mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the

last 7 years...both typical

> before vaccinations!)

>

December 2, 2008

i'm sure he doesn't feel the pain like we do..... possible sinus infection

or pain? gut pain? constipation?

impaction? ear pain, tooth pain??? can he let you know if he has pain

through a PEC's symbol?

kathy

[ ] SELF ABUSE...My beautiful boy is beating his head

and biting his fist!!! Help!

> My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums by

> screaming is now (for the

> last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he doesn't

> get what he wants,

> when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he doesn't

> understand. He is also

> biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point bled.

> He has 40 hour-week

> ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is escalating!

>

> Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful little

> boy hurt himself,

> leaving bruises all over his face

>

> He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a ton of

> tests and are waiting

> for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would love

> some input.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Rhonda

> (mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the last 7

> years...both typical

> before vaccinations!)

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> =======================================================

>

December 2, 2008

Is he verbal? Nonverbal children tend to high frustration levels, as you

can imagine.

Pamela

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Rhonda

Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:20 PM

Subject: [ ] SELF ABUSE...My beautiful boy is beating his head

and biting his fist!!! Help!

My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums by

screaming is now (for the

last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he doesn't get

what he wants,

when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he doesn't

understand. He is also

biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point bled. He

has 40 hour-week

ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is escalating!

Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful little boy

hurt himself,

leaving bruises all over his face

He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a ton of

tests and are waiting

for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would love some

input.

Thank you,

Rhonda

(mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the last 7

years...both typical

before vaccinations!)

December 2, 2008

My son bites his wrists when he is yeasty.

>

> Is he verbal? Nonverbal children tend to high frustration levels,

as you

> can imagine.

>

> Pamela

>

> From: [mailto:Autism-

Mercury ]

> On Behalf Of Rhonda

> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:20 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] SELF ABUSE...My beautiful boy is beating

his head

> and biting his fist!!! Help!

>

> My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums by

> screaming is now (for the

> last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he

doesn't get

> what he wants,

> when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he doesn't

> understand. He is also

> biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point

bled. He

> has 40 hour-week

> ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is

escalating!

>

> Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful

little boy

> hurt himself,

> leaving bruises all over his face

>

> He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a

ton of

> tests and are waiting

> for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would

love some

> input.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Rhonda

> (mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the

last 7

> years...both typical

> before vaccinations!)

>

December 3, 2008

Rhonda,

My son did pretty much exactly what you're describing but we didn't

have tamtrums prior to that. For us, supporting the adrenals made a

huge difference--the self-injuring reduced almost 100% within a

couple weeks.

We use nutricology adrenal glandular (ds weighs 45 pounds and takes

625 mgs a day as maintenance now--we started very low, of course), B

vitamins 4 times a day, and C four times a day (more often is better

if you can, especially in the initial stages). DS also benefits

from using chromium to help blood sugar and extra mag. DS in

particular also requires huge doses of B2.

IMO, using ABA to extinguish this behaviour might actually make it

worse but causing more stress.

Lots of kids are also happier with extra D vitamin dosed (not sure

where you live but in Canada or the UK, most kids simply cannot make

enough D). Also, for my son, supping lithium also helped with mood.

Anita

>

> My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums

by screaming is now (for the

> last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he

doesn't get what he wants,

> when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he

doesn't understand. He is also

> biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point

bled. He has 40 hour-week

> ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is

escalating!

>

> Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful

little boy hurt himself,

> leaving bruises all over his face

>

> He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a

ton of tests and are waiting

> for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would

love some input.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Rhonda

> (mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the

last 7 years...both typical

> before vaccinations!)

>

December 3, 2008

Rhonda, my son's self abuse and violence toward others stopped when

we took certain foods out of his diet. Have you removed casein, soy,

chocolate and MSG? These were major offenders for this kind of

behavior in my son. Also artificial colors made him scream. Maybe

keeping an eye on his diet in relation to behavior would help. We

also chelated for several months and are currently taking a month or

two off because of surgery and personal issues. We have seen a

brilliant change shining through our bright young man during this

time off. The biggest change? He has impulse control now, he didn't

a year ago.

>

> My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums

by screaming is now (for the

> last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he

doesn't get what he wants,

> when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he

doesn't understand. He is also

> biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point

bled. He has 40 hour-week

> ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is

escalating!

>

> Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful

little boy hurt himself,

> leaving bruises all over his face

>

> He is under the care of a great DAN doc but we just recently did a

ton of tests and are waiting

> for the results. If anyone has any ideas in the meantime, I would

love some input.

>

> Thank you,

>

> Rhonda

> (mother of 2 boys with Autism, oldest with chronic seizures for the

last 7 years...both typical

> before vaccinations!)

>

December 3, 2008

I am very interested in the meridians of the body. I have recently

found connections between my son's food reactions and the places on

his body he claims hurt after he has the food. One telling place is

the index finger, another is the jaw. They are both in the large

intestine meridian. Interesting how kids with autism bite their

hands, the large intestine meridian runs through both the jaw (teeth)

and the tip of the index finger down between it and the thumb. I

have read that putting pressure on points in the meridian will

relieve the pain along it. It is also well known that gut

inflammation also affects the brain. I believe these are all

interconnected and this is why we see this behavior in kids with

autism. I believe it is related to mostly food allergies.

>

> From two old posts of mine:

>

> " My 18 year old, very verbal child says:

> " I used to bang my head on the floor because the pain helped me

focus

> and block out distractions. " (He went on endlessly about this. I am

> summing up!) "

>

> 18 year old son is now 21. So the above post is roughly 3 years

old.

> From June 2008, here is another post of mine:

>

> My son used to beat his head on the floor. He explained to me once

> that he did it because the pain helped him focus. So I am wondering

> if maybe your son bites his hand to give him something to focus on

> when he is overwhelmed by what is going on around him? My son was

> too young at the time to remember clearly now what went on and

> exactly WHY it helped him focus, but I wonder if having a strong

> internal sensation might have helped counter an overload of external

> sensations causing sensory overload.

>

> My son adds: " Pain is unique among sensations in that it activates

> the entire brain. If you do an EEG, the entire brain lights up in

> reaction to pain, like a really glitchy christmas tree, with

> different sections flashing on and off at different rates and

> different times. "

>

> I think he is trying to suggest that it helps overcome the

> glitchiness of his own brain. He adds that he did this stuff when

> he had threads of thoughts he could not shut down. Pain allowed him

> to shut those down, almost like rebooting a computer, and start

anew.

>

> Good luck figuring this out.

> -----------

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.org

> http://www.kidslikemine.org

> http://www.solanorail.org

>

December 3, 2008

>

> My little 6 year old autistic boy who used to just throw tantrums by

screaming is now (for the

> last 4 months) beating his head (temples) with his fists when he

doesn't get what he wants,

> when he is hurting, when he just disagrees with you, when he doesn't

understand. He is also

> biting his wrist to where it has left a big callus and at one point

bled. He has 40 hour-week

> ABA therapy and the therapists try to prevent this, but it is

escalating!

>

> Does anyone have any ideas? I can't stand to watch this beautiful

little boy hurt himself,

> leaving bruises all over his face

>

When I first came into my kiddo's life, he was six and did all of

these things along with having temper tantrums that lasted about 2

hours. I noticed that he seemed incapable of stopping and that he had

a rhythmic tendency to the behavior. I suspected unusual seizure

behavior (no known history of seizures) and his doctor, knowing there

was no way we could get an EEG, put him on Trileptal. He still takes

it to this day and when he misses a dose, we know by the self abuse

behaviors coming back. We can also tell when he's outgrown his current

dose by the same indicator.

I'm not saying that's what your kid has, only saying that it's a

possibility to be explored with his doctor.

December 3, 2008

What about a therapy wrist weights, or weight jacket to hold his hands and his

body down until he calms down so he does not hurt himself.

J.

" Happiness depends upon ourselves. " Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC)

“Real success is finding your lifework in the work that you love.”

McCullough (1933)

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Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2008 10:02:35 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: SELF ABUSE...My beautiful boy is beating his head