Re: Off Topic Help for a friend

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If it were me: I'd find a new doctor. One that does not make such

careless mistakes, since next time it could be something worse, such

as a medication error that is fatal. It should have been written in

the child's file that she already had the vaccine. Secondly, if she is

going to vaccinate, she needs to keep track herself of what is given,

and when..so that multiple doses are not given from different doctors

or in error. Honestly, I don't trust them. Our doctor gave my child

the chicken pox vaccine with his MMR and never mentioned that they

were giving it. I didn't get a paper about it or anything. It was not

until years later when I asked for the immunizations that I saw he had

it. So they do things and don't ask you. Make it very clear to the new

doctor..that you must give permission for each vaccine. Which ones she

wants and when if she is not following the standard schedule.

I would also encourage her to read " what your doctor may not tell you

about vaccines " and some of those type of books. It helps to weigh the

true risks of the vaccines against the true risks of the disease. Most

if not all the time, you find the risk of vaccines is higher than any

of the diseases.

Watch the baby for any unusual behavior (leg twitches, or lack of

muscle tone) or feeding changes ( not eating rather, fussiness, not

sleeping, sleeping too much. I would also not allow the four month IPV

dosed based upon the fact she had two doses already. These shots do

contain antibiotics. One may want to give the baby probiotics in case

the injected antibiotics can cause any problems. I thin this is why my

child is allergic to penicillian, because he recieved via injection

before he ever ingested it.

If this baby is breastfed, continue that to help with immune function.

Watch for any of the following, these are associated with the polio

vaccine:

Gullien Barre syndrome, lower motor neuron weakness, encephalitis,

meningitis, and convulsions.

It is never harmless to give vaccines, especially not extra doses

close together. I hate when doctors trivialize.

I do hope her baby is ok. This is her warning sign not to trust these

people and maybe to seriously rethink if those vaccines are even

needed. No harm in waiting till the child is older either.

>

> Listmates,

> My friend has a newborn that received a polio vaccine at 2 months, then

> 2 weeks later, the doctors office mistakenly gave the baby another

> polio vaccine. The doctor told her that the baby will be fine, just a

> little soar at the injection site.

> Is there anything she should look for, or what would any of you do if

> this happened?

> I gave her Cave's safe vaccine schedule when her baby was

> born, if she chose to vaccinate. She was trying to follow a safe

> schedule when this mistake was made.

> Anybody?

> Thanks!

> Kris

>

[Guest guest]

Very good advice!

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Off Topic Help for a friend

Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:01 PM

If it were me: I'd find a new doctor. One that does not make such

careless mistakes, since next time it could be something worse, such

as a medication error that is fatal. It should have been written in

the child's file that she already had the vaccine. Secondly, if she is

going to vaccinate, she needs to keep track herself of what is given,

and when..so that multiple doses are not given from different doctors

or in error. Honestly, I don't trust them. Our doctor gave my child

the chicken pox vaccine with his MMR and never mentioned that they

were giving it. I didn't get a paper about it or anything. It was not

until years later when I asked for the immunizations that I saw he had

it. So they do things and don't ask you. Make it very clear to the new

doctor..that you must give permission for each vaccine. Which ones she

wants and when if she is not following the standard schedule.

I would also encourage her to read " what your doctor may not tell you

about vaccines " and some of those type of books. It helps to weigh the

true risks of the vaccines against the true risks of the disease. Most

if not all the time, you find the risk of vaccines is higher than any

of the diseases.

Watch the baby for any unusual behavior (leg twitches, or lack of

muscle tone) or feeding changes ( not eating rather, fussiness, not

sleeping, sleeping too much. I would also not allow the four month IPV

dosed based upon the fact she had two doses already. These shots do

contain antibiotics. One may want to give the baby probiotics in case

the injected antibiotics can cause any problems. I thin this is why my

child is allergic to penicillian, because he recieved via injection

before he ever ingested it.

If this baby is breastfed, continue that to help with immune function.

Watch for any of the following, these are associated with the polio

vaccine:

Gullien Barre syndrome, lower motor neuron weakness, encephalitis,

meningitis, and convulsions.

It is never harmless to give vaccines, especially not extra doses

close together. I hate when doctors trivialize.

I do hope her baby is ok. This is her warning sign not to trust these

people and maybe to seriously rethink if those vaccines are even

needed. No harm in waiting till the child is older either.

>

> Listmates,

> My friend has a newborn that received a polio vaccine at 2 months, then

> 2 weeks later, the doctors office mistakenly gave the baby another

> polio vaccine. The doctor told her that the baby will be fine, just a

> little soar at the injection site.

> Is there anything she should look for, or what would any of you do if

> this happened?

> I gave her Cave's safe vaccine schedule when her baby was

> born, if she chose to vaccinate. She was trying to follow a safe

> schedule when this mistake was made.

> Anybody?

> Thanks!

> Kris

>

[Guest guest]

I believe this happens more than people realize. Once upon a time, I

trusted our family doctor (now I don't even trust a DAN, but that's

another whole story....). I figured they were keeping good track of

what vaccinations they were shooting into my baby. Imagine my surprize

when I got his vax record after he was diagnosed this past year, and

swiitched to a non-vax friendly family doc, and saw that my son was

given not one, but 2 MMR's about a month and a half apart at 12 and

13.5 months. That's when he stopped sleeping.

>

> Listmates,

> My friend has a newborn that received a polio vaccine at 2 months,

then

> 2 weeks later, the doctors office mistakenly gave the baby another

> polio vaccine. The doctor told her that the baby will be fine, just

a

> little soar at the injection site.

> Is there anything she should look for, or what would any of you do if

> this happened?

> I gave her Cave's safe vaccine schedule when her baby was

> born, if she chose to vaccinate. She was trying to follow a safe

> schedule when this mistake was made.

> Anybody?

> Thanks!

> Kris

>

[Guest guest]

Excellent advice already!

I would add that your friend research online extensively about what

seizures look like in babies, especially " absence seizures " and head

dropping.

And get medical attention (and report to VAERS of course) re: ANY odd

symptoms, tummy problems, sleep problems, fussiness, vomiting, anything.

It is impossible for one to be over-vigilant on this front IMO, she

needs to document all reactions in real time.

She also needs to find out the Manufacturer and Brand name of the

shots given. She can look up here to find ingredients www.novaccine.com

And find online and print out the current package insert, as they

contain a wide list of adverse reactions listed right there in them

which may be relevant later in life.

best,

Liora

> >

> > Listmates,

> > My friend has a newborn that received a polio vaccine at 2 months,

then

> > 2 weeks later, the doctors office mistakenly gave the baby another

> > polio vaccine. The doctor told her that the baby will be fine,

just a

> > little soar at the injection site.

> > Is there anything she should look for, or what would any of you do if

> > this happened?

> > I gave her Cave's safe vaccine schedule when her baby was

> > born, if she chose to vaccinate. She was trying to follow a safe

> > schedule when this mistake was made.

> > Anybody?

> > Thanks!

> > Kris

> >

>

[Guest guest]

NAET treatment for polio vaccine?

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Off Topic Help for a friend

Posted by: " Kris Young " Kyoung110a@... kyoung110a

Tue Dec 2, 2008 12:04 pm (PST)

Listmates,

My friend has a newborn that received a polio vaccine at 2 months, then

2 weeks later, the doctors office mistakenly gave the baby another

polio vaccine. The doctor told her that the baby will be fine, just a

little soar at the injection site.

Is there anything she should look for, or what would any of you do if

this happened?

I gave her Cave's safe vaccine schedule when her baby was

born, if she chose to vaccinate. She was trying to follow a safe

schedule when this mistake was made.

Anybody?

Thanks!

Kris

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[Guest guest]

Yo have got great advice already. I would just tell your friend that

she needs to be on top of things and ask the right questions before

giving anything to her child.

I can still clearly remember the day the nurse was so upset with me

because I refused the flu vaccine because she already got it out

thinking I would take it. I was so foolish, I let her put the MMR

and not the flu vaccine on my child. If only I knew then, I would

have snatched the vaccine from her hand and threw it.

Maya

> >

> > Listmates,

> > My friend has a newborn that received a polio vaccine at 2

months, then

> > 2 weeks later, the doctors office mistakenly gave the baby

another

> > polio vaccine. The doctor told her that the baby will be fine,

just a

> > little soar at the injection site.

> > Is there anything she should look for, or what would any of you

do if

> > this happened?

> > I gave her Cave's safe vaccine schedule when her baby

was

> > born, if she chose to vaccinate. She was trying to follow a

safe

> > schedule when this mistake was made.

> > Anybody?

> > Thanks!

> > Kris

> >

>