Re: OT. Car sickness

[Guest guest]

THANKS. Does the cookie have wheat in it? Is the wheat ok for her? I

thought people here stayed away from it?

On Oct 17, 2008, at 10:47 PM, eli8591 wrote:

> Ginger is helpful for my girl's motion sickness. Usually, via ginger

> cookies However, she does refuse ginger " foods " regularly, enjoys

> them for a couple times/days, then will refuse for awhile (weeks).

> chuckling, I do believe the girl is a super-taster, to boot - big sigh

> - found a (likely) reason for the ensuing refusal, but don't remember

> what it was. I am hoping that, when she is just a tad bigger, that

> riding in the front seat will help lengthen our ride time wishing

> you the best answers, elizabeth

>

>

> >

> > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Ginger is helpful for my girl's motion sickness. Usually, via ginger

cookies However, she does refuse ginger " foods " regularly, enjoys

them for a couple times/days, then will refuse for awhile (weeks).

chuckling, I do believe the girl is a super-taster, to boot - big sigh

- found a (likely) reason for the ensuing refusal, but don't remember

what it was. I am hoping that, when she is just a tad bigger, that

riding in the front seat will help lengthen our ride time wishing

you the best answers, elizabeth

>

> My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

>

[Guest guest]

You hit the nail on the head! The front seat can make a vast

difference. So can sitting in the front of a bus versus behind the

back door. It has to do with the ventilation and getting fumes.

If you've never read An Alternative Approach to Allergies, it's a

great book and I learned it there. My daughter would get really car

sick but when she was able to sit in the front seat, she was fine.

I used to buy ginger capsules and they were pretty good too but they

needed to be taken quite a bit sooner than a car ride. We took the

bus or train except in emergencies since it was much easier and in

Germany children under 12 are not allowed in the front seat.

Ultimately, doing a bunch of NAET treatments helped that condition.

Petrochemicals and electrosmog were part of the treatments after the

initial ten standard ones.

Sharon Hoehner

www.sharethecause.com/detoxqueen

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> > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

unlike most people here, my girl is allergic and/or intolerant of most

grains, EXCEPT wheat...I spent many months when she was a baby

eliminating " standard " allergic foods - ultimately, it was the things

like jams, jellies, condiments that she had problems with...and

" alternate " grains...ummm, dr suggested oatmeal, as a possible help

for her belly issues, when infant - she is definitely allergic to

oatmeal & I figure that is because it was her " first " food, at the

wrong time, and probably connects to her other intolerances. elizabeth

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> > > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> > > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> > > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

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[Guest guest]

ginger helps with car sickness. They make some ginger car sickness

things you can chew on. Tried them once with mine, worked, but they

complained about the horrible taste. Don't know if it will work for

yours or not. From what you've said, she sounds quite picky. Thought

I'd throw it out there though. Other things, they can't ride in the

front seat, or do schoolwork in the car. They seem to be able to just

read. We have to traverse a lot of windy roads, so I try to take routes

with less turns.

Arias wrote:

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> My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

>

>

[Guest guest]

comment below...

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> > > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> > > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> > > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> > >

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[Guest guest]

I have gotten car sick for 30+ years, sometimes even a little when I am

driving. I have stopped getting car sick since I began treating for

bartonella, an infection that more and more kids with ASD are testing

positive for. It is a known cause of encephalitis. Treating my son

for this is bringing us the biggest gains we have seen so far. My

whole family has tested positive.

Caryn

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> My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

B6 is helpful for motion sickness.

Taurine can help with chemical sensitivity.

OLE eliminated environmental allergies here.

Dana

[Guest guest]

how do you test for this?

On Oct 18, 2008, at 10:23 AM, Caryn_Reid wrote:

> I have gotten car sick for 30+ years, sometimes even a little when

> I am

> driving. I have stopped getting car sick since I began treating for

> bartonella, an infection that more and more kids with ASD are testing

> positive for. It is a known cause of encephalitis. Treating my son

> for this is bringing us the biggest gains we have seen so far. My

> whole family has tested positive.

>

> Caryn

>

>

> >

> > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> >

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Many labs do antibody testing but because there are so many different

types of bartonella this can be less reliable as they usually only

test for 2 or 3 types. Fry Laboratories in sdale, AZ does a

photographic blood smear where they actually make slides of your

blood and take pictures of the bacteria they see in your blood and

the microbiologist classifies the pathogen. This is currently

considered the best test for bartonella.

Caryn

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> > > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I

believe its

> > > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she

needs to

> > > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

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[Guest guest]

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I got car sick as a child and to this day can't read or watch

anything other than the road while riding in a car. I also have

issues in small planes and on boats. Some of my coping mechanisms

(that keep me from throwing up or reduce the queasiness) are:

1. Chewing gum especially mint flavors

2. Chewing/sucking on crushed ice

3. Sucking on peppermint candy

4. Air blowing in my face..assuming it is cool and not too stinky.

5. I watch the scenery, talk, listen to music. I can't read, watch

a DVD, sew, knit or anything like that.

I tried the pressure band bracelets and they didn't work for me,

although I have several friends they did work for. I haven't tried

ginger because I don't really like the taste, but have heard good

things about it.

(Max's Mom)

>

> My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

>

[Guest guest]

How about just treating for bartonella to see what happens?

On Oct 18, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Caryn_Reid wrote:

> Many labs do antibody testing but because there are so many different

> types of bartonella this can be less reliable as they usually only

> test for 2 or 3 types. Fry Laboratories in sdale, AZ does a

> photographic blood smear where they actually make slides of your

> blood and take pictures of the bacteria they see in your blood and

> the microbiologist classifies the pathogen. This is currently

> considered the best test for bartonella.

>

> Caryn

>

>

> > > >

> > > > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I

> believe its

> > > > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she

> needs to

> > > > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

How is bartonella treated?

On Oct 18, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Caryn_Reid wrote:

> Many labs do antibody testing but because there are so many different

> types of bartonella this can be less reliable as they usually only

> test for 2 or 3 types. Fry Laboratories in sdale, AZ does a

> photographic blood smear where they actually make slides of your

> blood and take pictures of the bacteria they see in your blood and

> the microbiologist classifies the pathogen. This is currently

> considered the best test for bartonella.

>

> Caryn

>

>

> > > >

> > > > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I

> believe its

> > > > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she

> needs to

> > > > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

great ideas, thanks!

On Oct 18, 2008, at 3:21 PM, epoxycozy wrote:

> ,

>

> I got car sick as a child and to this day can't read or watch

> anything other than the road while riding in a car. I also have

> issues in small planes and on boats. Some of my coping mechanisms

> (that keep me from throwing up or reduce the queasiness) are:

>

> 1. Chewing gum especially mint flavors

> 2. Chewing/sucking on crushed ice

> 3. Sucking on peppermint candy

> 4. Air blowing in my face..assuming it is cool and not too stinky.

> 5. I watch the scenery, talk, listen to music. I can't read, watch

> a DVD, sew, knit or anything like that.

>

> I tried the pressure band bracelets and they didn't work for me,

> although I have several friends they did work for. I haven't tried

> ginger because I don't really like the taste, but have heard good

> things about it.

>

> (Max's Mom)

>

>

> >

> > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow. Where do you live?

On Oct 18, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Michele wrote:

>

> >

> > My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> > all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> > live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

> >

>

> We tried the pressure bands and those did help us. We tried switching

> the kids out to the front seat so neither one spent too much time in

> the back seat and that did help. Then I bought a new car, which was a

> lot cleaner than the old one and smoother-driving. The kids had a lot

> less trouble with car sickness after that. Then we voluntarily

> surrendered the car earlier this year (March, I think). We began

> walking to the grocery store and stuff like that before we gave up the

> car to help us transition to this new lifestyle. Even though my

> oldest only went in the car about once a month at that point, when *I*

> began spending substantially less time in the car, HE had diarrhea and

> slept tons for about a week. We concluded that he reacted so badly to

> the offgassing from the stuff in the car that my exposure to the car

> had been making him ill. We are trying to arrange our lives so that

> we never need a car again. I am also lots healthier since we gave up

> the car. I did not realize how much the car was making me sick as

> well. Walking on the side of the road and breathing car fumes makes

> us less sick than riding in the car did.

>

> Good luck resolving this.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.org

> http://www.kidslikemine.org

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My dd gets really car sick. What would help with this. I believe its

> all the smelly cars on the road. Sometimes I feel like she needs to

> live in a bubble, because she gets set off by so much.

>

We tried the pressure bands and those did help us. We tried switching

the kids out to the front seat so neither one spent too much time in

the back seat and that did help. Then I bought a new car, which was a

lot cleaner than the old one and smoother-driving. The kids had a lot

less trouble with car sickness after that. Then we voluntarily

surrendered the car earlier this year (March, I think). We began

walking to the grocery store and stuff like that before we gave up the

car to help us transition to this new lifestyle. Even though my

oldest only went in the car about once a month at that point, when *I*

began spending substantially less time in the car, HE had diarrhea and

slept tons for about a week. We concluded that he reacted so badly to

the offgassing from the stuff in the car that my exposure to the car

had been making him ill. We are trying to arrange our lives so that

we never need a car again. I am also lots healthier since we gave up

the car. I did not realize how much the car was making me sick as

well. Walking on the side of the road and breathing car fumes makes

us less sick than riding in the car did.

Good luck resolving this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

[Guest guest]

Your a trooper!

On Oct 18, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Michele wrote:

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> >

> > Wow. Where do you live?

>

> I currently live in Georgia. I " carpool " to work (sounds so much

> better than " bum rides " and I get to call it that since my company

> began promoting carpooling and we now have a " carpool " sticker and get

> to park closer to the building ;-D ) and walk anywhere else I need to

> go. My kids (ages 18 and 21) buy most of the groceries. That was the

> deal the three of us made when we had our family meeting, surveyed our

> options in the face of a SERIOUS financial shortfall and agreed to

> give up the car as the most viable option. I told them I couldn't

> make it work if they didn't do most of the grocery shopping. They

> have held up their end of the bargain and I only had to screw through

> the roof once at my youngest a few weeks after the car went. They've

> both been real troopers ever since.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.org

> http://www.kidslikemine.org

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Wow. Where do you live?

I currently live in Georgia. I " carpool " to work (sounds so much

better than " bum rides " and I get to call it that since my company

began promoting carpooling and we now have a " carpool " sticker and get

to park closer to the building ;-D ) and walk anywhere else I need to

go. My kids (ages 18 and 21) buy most of the groceries. That was the

deal the three of us made when we had our family meeting, surveyed our

options in the face of a SERIOUS financial shortfall and agreed to

give up the car as the most viable option. I told them I couldn't

make it work if they didn't do most of the grocery shopping. They

have held up their end of the bargain and I only had to screw through

the roof once at my youngest a few weeks after the car went. They've

both been real troopers ever since.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

[Guest guest]

>

> Your a trooper!

Yes, I probably am. And my kids are too. But most of the time, I

don't feel like " a trooper " when it comes to living without a car. It

really hasn't felt like a huge issue. It was a surprisingly quiet

transition. We did make the effort to walk to the store prior to

giving up the car so that we could adjust. I promptly bought different

shoes and watch. I had not realized how dependent I was on the clock

in my car. The carpool arrangements happened spontaneously the very

first time I tried to walk to work. The woman who picks me up has

been extremely reliable. I offered her gas money but my apartment is

right on her way to work. It's hardly out of her way at all to stop

and pick me up.

And then I get to listen to other people complain about the high gas

prices and make remarks about how they are waiting for gas prices to

come down. Although there are always fluctuations in such things, the

long term trend for gas is to go up. As an environmental studies

major, I have taken two college classes that covered Peak Oil: how we

are approaching the 50% mark for having removed all oil on the planet

from the ground. The other half will be far more expensive to get out

of the ground. So the era of cheap oil is basically over and the

lifestyles that grew out of it are in their death throes. I know a

lot of people are very resistant to changing their lifestyle but we

simply can't continue the way we have been. People will have no

choice but to live closer to work, shop closer to home, carpool more,

walk more, take more public transit and use more alternative fuels.

Hopefully that means more development of alternatives, better public

transit, etc.

That reality is part of why my sons and I decided that giving up the

car would be the best option. My kids hated the car and actually get

out more now that we don't have one. I order some things online that

I would have driven across town to buy previously but by the time we

gave up the car, I was already sticking a lot closer to home. My kids

find walking to the nearby grocery store pleasant and don't mind it.

We are all healthier for walking more. So we have experienced this

more as a different lifestyle rather than simply " privation " . And

it's a lifestyle we like better than the one we had before.

Related to this topic of Peak Oil and Americans needing to change:

I have another website I haven't promoted recently:

http://solanorail.org/ It grew out of my research in several college

classes. If anyone has some idea of how to promote a better rail plan

for the county I used to live in, drop me a line. With gas prices

higher, commuter rail for Solano County should soon be viable...if

only it can get built in the right places. But I'm at something of a

loss as to how to get the word out.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

[Guest guest]

I meant that your a tropper in dealing with your children. Not the

car thing. I wish everyone could get rid of theirs!! THey stink, and

make my dd nuts

On Oct 19, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Michele wrote:

>

> >

> > Your a trooper!

>

> Yes, I probably am. And my kids are too. But most of the time, I

> don't feel like " a trooper " when it comes to living without a car. It

> really hasn't felt like a huge issue. It was a surprisingly quiet

> transition. We did make the effort to walk to the store prior to

> giving up the car so that we could adjust. I promptly bought different

> shoes and watch. I had not realized how dependent I was on the clock

> in my car. The carpool arrangements happened spontaneously the very

> first time I tried to walk to work. The woman who picks me up has

> been extremely reliable. I offered her gas money but my apartment is

> right on her way to work. It's hardly out of her way at all to stop

> and pick me up.

>

> And then I get to listen to other people complain about the high gas

> prices and make remarks about how they are waiting for gas prices to

> come down. Although there are always fluctuations in such things, the

> long term trend for gas is to go up. As an environmental studies

> major, I have taken two college classes that covered Peak Oil: how we

> are approaching the 50% mark for having removed all oil on the planet

> from the ground. The other half will be far more expensive to get out

> of the ground. So the era of cheap oil is basically over and the

> lifestyles that grew out of it are in their death throes. I know a

> lot of people are very resistant to changing their lifestyle but we

> simply can't continue the way we have been. People will have no

> choice but to live closer to work, shop closer to home, carpool more,

> walk more, take more public transit and use more alternative fuels.

> Hopefully that means more development of alternatives, better public

> transit, etc.

>

> That reality is part of why my sons and I decided that giving up the

> car would be the best option. My kids hated the car and actually get

> out more now that we don't have one. I order some things online that

> I would have driven across town to buy previously but by the time we

> gave up the car, I was already sticking a lot closer to home. My kids

> find walking to the nearby grocery store pleasant and don't mind it.

> We are all healthier for walking more. So we have experienced this

> more as a different lifestyle rather than simply " privation " . And

> it's a lifestyle we like better than the one we had before.

>

> Related to this topic of Peak Oil and Americans needing to change:

>

> I have another website I haven't promoted recently:

> http://solanorail.org/ It grew out of my research in several college

> classes. If anyone has some idea of how to promote a better rail plan

> for the county I used to live in, drop me a line. With gas prices

> higher, commuter rail for Solano County should soon be viable...if

> only it can get built in the right places. But I'm at something of a

> loss as to how to get the word out.

>

> Michele

> http://www.healthgazelle.org

> http://www.kidslikemine.org

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I meant that your a tropper in dealing with your children. Not the

> car thing. I wish everyone could get rid of theirs!! THey stink, and

> make my dd nuts

:-)

The truth is that I am the sickest of the three of us and they take

care of me more than I take care of them these days. I am the sole

breadwinner but I did the homemaker thing for a long time. So I have

no delusions about my role as breadwinner being " more valuable " or

something. My oldest does a lot of the cooking and a lot of the

cleaning and I wouldn't be well enough to work without that kind of

support. When I am having a healing crisis or have been exposed to

infection or toxins at work, my kids wait on me hand and foot so I can

get well again. The three of us are " partners " in this goal of

getting all of us well. And we are happier than we have ever been.

Peace.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.org

http://www.kidslikemine.org

[Guest guest]

My son had this problem. It was called multiple chemical sensitivity. It was

from the car fumes. You can purchase a car air purifier from this company called

Needs.

I can't remember the brand but it filters the air in the car, plugs into the

lighter, and kept my son's vomiting and passing out from happening. About

fifteen years ago when we got one they were $200. My husband designed and made

his own car air purifier for $20 with this motor from a salvage yard and poplar

wood though...and that is what we used.

Chelation fixed the vomiting in the car. He's not the pukemyster any longer.

He is no longer destroying the US highways, as we used to call it. LOL.

[Guest guest]

That is so funny. Did you have to keep the windows closed when the

air purifier was on? I don have a control in the car that is suppose

to keep all of the fumes from getting into the car. Guess its not

working.

On Oct 19, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Axe wrote:

> My son had this problem. It was called multiple chemical

> sensitivity. It was from the car fumes. You can purchase a car air

> purifier from this company called Needs.

>

> I can't remember the brand but it filters the air in the car, plugs

> into the lighter, and kept my son's vomiting and passing out from

> happening. About fifteen years ago when we got one they were $200.

> My husband designed and made his own car air purifier for $20 with

> this motor from a salvage yard and poplar wood though...and that is

> what we used.

>

> Chelation fixed the vomiting in the car. He's not the pukemyster

> any longer. He is no longer destroying the US highways, as we used

> to call it. LOL.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Check with a mechanic. Those cabin air filters (as they are called)

have actual filters which need to be replaced. Also, it may not be just

outside contaminants. Interiors can off gas too.

P.

Arias wrote:

>

> That is so funny. Did you have to keep the windows closed when the

> air purifier was on? I don have a control in the car that is suppose

> to keep all of the fumes from getting into the car. Guess its not

> working.

> On Oct 19, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Axe wrote:

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>

[Guest guest]

great, thanks!

On Oct 20, 2008, at 9:06 AM, P. wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> Check with a mechanic. Those cabin air filters (as they are called)

> have actual filters which need to be replaced. Also, it may not be

> just

> outside contaminants. Interiors can off gas too.

> P.

>

> Arias wrote:

> >

> > That is so funny. Did you have to keep the windows closed when the

> > air purifier was on? I don have a control in the car that is suppose

> > to keep all of the fumes from getting into the car. Guess its not

> > working.

> > On Oct 19, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Axe wrote:

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