Re: OT: viral? or bacterial? Dana

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

right?

===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any symptom whether

you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with strep. I had strep throat as

a child from a cold with a sore throat with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We have kept ours

on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all dropping like flies around

her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on wood.

I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

morning.

What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the best so

far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it, some are

faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot get an

upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

I had this same thing last year too.

Any helps is appreciated.

[Guest guest]

> Symptoms:

> dry itchy cough, sinus/throat congestion, sore neck, body aches,

> fever, throat congestion, sore throat.

At my house, in the order above, yeast, yeast, yeast/virus, virus,

virus, yeast, yeast/virus.

> I began my son on OLE and virstop.

I would add vitamin C and biotin. We just got over colds here. Two

days max for most of us. The only things I gave were vitamin C and

biotin, 4x per day.

>>My throat still hurts and for some reason the pain in it

> gets really bad at night. A tickle in the throat still that makes me

> cough.

This meant yeast here.

Dana

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Ok, point taken....I've got a yeasty virus...lol.

let me start pounding down some more gse/probiotics and see if I am

doing better tomorrow. I really hate antibotics and will avoid them at

all costs. If it's viral, they won't help anyway.

oh and more vitamin C. on that too but not enough probably.

By the way, my son's behavior has improved considerably on the OLE.

And his yeast is almost gone...odd?

How long to get rid of a sinus infection on OLE?

What should we give with the OLE. GSE/probiotics too to keep yeast

down, right?

> > Symptoms:

> > dry itchy cough, sinus/throat congestion, sore neck, body aches,

> > fever, throat congestion, sore throat.

>

>

> At my house, in the order above, yeast, yeast, yeast/virus, virus,

> virus, yeast, yeast/virus.

>

>

> > I began my son on OLE and virstop.

>

>

> I would add vitamin C and biotin. We just got over colds here. Two

> days max for most of us. The only things I gave were vitamin C and

> biotin, 4x per day.

>

>

> >>My throat still hurts and for some reason the pain in it

> > gets really bad at night. A tickle in the throat still that makes me

> > cough.

>

>

> This meant yeast here.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

I suspect the sinus infection in him also. That cold lasted way too

long. The OLE/GSE is helping, he's way better than he was, but it's

not gone yet.

I am going to try a few more things..if no resolve then I'll get a

strep test done. It always comes back neg though. I recall strep pain

being all the time. I had it at least four times in my life that I can

recall, probably five. And usually, the throat pain is so bad you

can't swallow at all, day or nigh. but...who knows!

what gets me is I get the same horrific head infection every

year..since I was a kid. It'd be nice to eradicate it permanently. I

always end up with laryngitis to boot. My chiropractor keeps telling

me if I want to get rid of it for good...the silver. I keep rolling my

eyes and quoting Andy. lol...

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jan

>

>

>

> I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

> right?

>

> ===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any

symptom whether you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with

strep. I had strep throat as a child from a cold with a sore throat

with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

>

> The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We have

kept ours on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all dropping

like flies around her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on wood.

>

>

>

>

>

> I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

> morning.

> What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the best so

> far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it, some are

> faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot get an

> upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

> I had this same thing last year too.

>

> Any helps is appreciated.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

I suspect the sinus infection in him also. That cold lasted way too

long. The OLE/GSE is helping, he's way better than he was, but it's

not gone yet.

I am going to try a few more things..if no resolve then I'll get a

strep test done. It always comes back neg though. I recall strep pain

being all the time.

===>That might be your individual response to strep, but it isn't everybody's.

I had a minor cold as a 7 year old, missed two days of school in the late

winter, don't even remember if my throat was sore, but the cold completely

resolved. However, by early spring I was hospitalized with a kidney disease.

Yes, the silver would help but then it would create other problems.

I had it at least four times in my life that I can

recall, probably five. And usually, the throat pain is so bad you

can't swallow at all, day or nigh. but...who knows!

what gets me is I get the same horrific head infection every

year..since I was a kid. It'd be nice to eradicate it permanently. I

always end up with laryngitis to boot. My chiropractor keeps telling

me if I want to get rid of it for good...the silver. I keep rolling my

eyes and quoting Andy. lol...

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Jan

>

>

>

> I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

> right?

>

> ===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any

symptom whether you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with

strep. I had strep throat as a child from a cold with a sore throat

with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

>

> The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We have

kept ours on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all dropping

like flies around her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on wood.

>

>

>

>

>

> I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

> morning.

> What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the best so

> far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it, some are

> faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot get an

> upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

> I had this same thing last year too.

>

> Any helps is appreciated.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suspect the silver would also kill off more than just bad bacteria.

It's so difficult finding a balance. I want to kill whatever

viral/bacterial is making me sick, but not kill off what isn't.

I am yeasty though..Dana is right on that one. I checked my tongue and

wow.

So is OLE/gse/probiotics best for his sinus infection?

And me on ole/gse/probiotics?

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Jan

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

> > right?

> >

> > ===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any

> symptom whether you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with

> strep. I had strep throat as a child from a cold with a sore throat

> with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

> >

> > The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We have

> kept ours on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all dropping

> like flies around her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on wood.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

> > morning.

> > What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the

best so

> > far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it, some are

> > faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot get an

> > upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

> > I had this same thing last year too.

> >

> > Any helps is appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

So is OLE/gse/probiotics best for his sinus infection?

===>Yes, OLE and gse are about the best for bacteria. I have also seen some

good studies that OLE is an effective treatment for strep. Ditto for

Berberines.

Keep in mind that a regular cold is not considered problematic unless it

continues beyond 10 days. But you know your kid, with ours if she continually

keeps getting worse in the evening and has dark circles under her eyes past 4

days, we just as well go to the dr and get some Zithromax and get it over with.

And me on ole/gse/probiotics?

===>All helpful, so is garlic, for me. She cannot take it in pill form for

some odd reason, cooking with it is fine.

Hope your family feels better soon, Jan.

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Jan

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

> > right?

> >

> > ===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any

> symptom whether you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with

> strep. I had strep throat as a child from a cold with a sore throat

> with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

> >

> > The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We have

> kept ours on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all dropping

> like flies around her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on wood.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

> > morning.

> > What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the

best so

> > far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it, some are

> > faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot get an

> > upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

> > I had this same thing last year too.

> >

> > Any helps is appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, hopefully we will all be over this soon. We have missed a

round already and I am getting anxious.

he's doing better than I. I think he just has the sinus infection. He

has had congestion, runny nose, cough for three weeks. It's past time

to go away..then he got that virus last week and we still have the

sinus stuff left...and the bad breath this morning was my clue. Sinus

infection..no sore throat for him.

i have three more days before I am considered " problematic " .

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Jan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

> > > right?

> > >

> > > ===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any

> > symptom whether you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with

> > strep. I had strep throat as a child from a cold with a sore throat

> > with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

> > >

> > > The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We have

> > kept ours on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all

dropping

> > like flies around her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on

wood.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

> > > morning.

> > > What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the

> best so

> > > far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it,

some are

> > > faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot

get an

> > > upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

> > > I had this same thing last year too.

> > >

> > > Any helps is appreciated.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Jan,

The best home remedy I've ever for sore throat is sipping hot water

with a tablespoon or two of raw honey, about 2 tsps organic apple

cider vinegar, a quarter of a lemon - squeeze the juice into the hot

water and then put the lemon quarter in, too, and a tiny PINCH of

cayenne pepper. I know it sounds gross, but honestly it doesn't taste

as bad as it sounds. And though it won't cure the underlying cause,

it does give fantastic sore throat RELIEF that lasts for a good 3-4

hours. Hope that helps.

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: Jan

> >

> >

> >

> > I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

> > right?

> >

> > ===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any

> symptom whether you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with

> strep. I had strep throat as a child from a cold with a sore throat

> with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

> >

> > The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We

have

> kept ours on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all

dropping

> like flies around her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on

wood.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

> > morning.

> > What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the

best so

> > far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it, some

are

> > faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot

get an

> > upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

> > I had this same thing last year too.

> >

> > Any helps is appreciated.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you..I am going to stop at the store and get some fresh lemons

and cayenne to gear up for tonights episode, I'll try anything..it

should flare up around 8pm. I have the vinegar..in fact...gargled with

it a few times.

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: Jan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I don't have a fever anymore....and if it were strep..I should,

> > > right?

> > >

> > > ===>No, incorrect, there is absolutely no way to tell from any

> > symptom whether you have strep or not. A fever will not stay with

> > strep. I had strep throat as a child from a cold with a sore throat

> > with a minor fever, nothing remarkable.

> > >

> > > The bad breath in your boy sounds like a sinus infection. We

> have

> > kept ours on OLE this winter and so far so good, they're all

> dropping

> > like flies around her, but she has been cold/flu free, knock on

> wood.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have been trying to call my doc but the phone has busy all

> > > morning.

> > > What do we need to do to get rid of this?? My son is doing the

> best so

> > > far, but not cold free. Everyone else in the house has it, some

> are

> > > faring better, I'm faring the worse. For some reason I cannot

> get an

> > > upper respiratory infection that does not become laryngitis!

> > > I had this same thing last year too.

> > >

> > > Any helps is appreciated.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Jan,

If 's concoction irritates your throat more, try a baking soda gargle.

Make it as salty as you can stand it and gargle several times a day. I had a

really bad throat tickle 2 winters ago that made me caugh and gag for

minutes, and I tried an acidic gargle, and it make it worse. Baking soda

soothed my throat, and it also kills strep bacterial, or so I read.

For sinus infections you might want to try a saline nasal rinse. You can try

the spray and inhale it really deep into your sinuses. Or you can try a

sinus rinse like Sinumed, Ayr, or NeilMed. NeilMed makes pediatric bottles

that you can give your son. Just act like it's a really cool thing to make

water come out of the other nostril. My 4yo was really excited about doing

this and did it once for me. Then he said it felt weird and didn't want to

do it again. Use distilled water and warm it up to a good temperature.

I hope you feel better soon!

[Guest guest]

>

> Ok, point taken....I've got a yeasty virus...lol.

=)

> By the way, my son's behavior has improved considerably on the OLE.

> And his yeast is almost gone...odd?

That would mean the virus was almost gone.

> How long to get rid of a sinus infection on OLE?

Depends on the overall health of the rest of the body, and the dose of

OLE you give. At my house, probably 2-3 days.

> What should we give with the OLE. GSE/probiotics too to keep yeast

> down, right?

I used biotin, and added GSE if it was really bad.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all your help. Since adding the gse for myself and

probiotics (2x a day each) with the OLE my sore throat is getting

better. I did not have that terrible pain last night. So it's helping.

My son's breathe was even worse this morning. Made me gag. He is

getting about 1/2 500mg cap of OLE with 1/2 tab of gse once a day,

then probiotics at night.

He is pretty healthy overall and seems to be fighting things off

better than I anyway. I did expect he would be " snot free " by now

though. Its like he has had a cold for a month, which got worse when

he caught that respiratory infection. He improved a lot in the past

week, should we increase his dose? I don't want to get antibiotics for

him because he's allergic to penicillin. They usually give us this

really expensive stuff that gives him diarrhea. We have only had to

get that once for strep, but I'd rather not.

The older one has it now too, so I have her on the same stuff. She's

getting pink eye too. We are using homeopathic drops for that.

I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has missed the

last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept waiting for

it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

> >

> > Ok, point taken....I've got a yeasty virus...lol.

>

>

> =)

>

>

> > By the way, my son's behavior has improved considerably on the OLE.

> > And his yeast is almost gone...odd?

>

>

> That would mean the virus was almost gone.

>

>

> > How long to get rid of a sinus infection on OLE?

>

>

> Depends on the overall health of the rest of the body, and the dose of

> OLE you give. At my house, probably 2-3 days.

>

>

> > What should we give with the OLE. GSE/probiotics too to keep yeast

> > down, right?

>

>

> I used biotin, and added GSE if it was really bad.

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

>>He improved a lot in the past

> week, should we increase his dose?

If you want. Or just keep it the same since it appears to be helping him.

> I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has missed the

> last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept waiting for

> it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

It would depend on how he usually does on a round, and how badly he is

feeling right now.

Dana