Re: Herpes/Dana

[Guest guest]

More than likely it is a combination of factors.

Stop stressing. Don't beat yourself up.

Deal with what you know......

One biochemical problem at a time.

Arias wrote:

>

> my dd had the lump under her ear after the hep. B vaccine... I was

> also wondering if it could have been a virus form me instead. i have

> always had herpes virus on my lip all my life. i am wondering if it

> all the damage that she got is from me instead of the vaccine????

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am trying to find out what type of virus it is... is it the herpes

virus she has/had in her brain or is it the Hep B virus. It would be

helpful to know, right? so I know what to use to deal with the virus.

Any suggestions are welcome. )

On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Reynolds wrote:

> More than likely it is a combination of factors.

>

> Stop stressing. Don't beat yourself up.

>

> Deal with what you know......

>

> One biochemical problem at a time.

>

> Arias wrote:

> >

> > my dd had the lump under her ear after the hep. B vaccine... I was

> > also wondering if it could have been a virus form me instead. i have

> > always had herpes virus on my lip all my life. i am wondering if it

> > all the damage that she got is from me instead of the vaccine????

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're dealing with a lot of unknowns and a lot of speculation.

Even a lot of the testing can give false positives and false negatives,

so again it comes back to speculation.

I think your best course of action is to form a hypothesis based on

patient history and testing and proceed with treatment on the basis of

that hypothesis and look for the response.

We are not dealing with something that is cut an dry here.

You seem to be looking for a definitive answer. From everything I have

read so far, currently their is no one on this planet that could give

you a definitive answer or solution.

So anyone who does purport to give you the definitive answer, I would

suggest is merely someone who is speculating with confidence.

A good immunologist will tell you that what they KNOW is currently a lot

less than what they DON " T KNOW.

There are so many inconsistencies and unknowns in the research literature.

And the same incosistencies and unknowns are then multiplied at least

tenfold if we are just going to look at patient response to a proposed

solution.

For example, no one has seen exactly the same response or response rate

that Stan Kurtz reports he got for his son Ethan using valtrex.

So I think you're down to hypothesis and then trial and error, and

readjustment based on patient response, which is the way Dana proceeded

if I read her emails correctly?

Arias wrote:

>

> I am trying to find out what type of virus it is... is it the herpes

> virus she has/had in her brain or is it the Hep B virus. It would be

> helpful to know, right? so I know what to use to deal with the virus.

> Any suggestions are welcome. )

> On Nov 30, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Reynolds wrote:

>

> > More than likely it is a combination of factors.

> >

> > Stop stressing. Don't beat yourself up.

> >

> > Deal with what you know......

> >

> > One biochemical problem at a time.

> >

> > Arias wrote:

> > >

> > > my dd had the lump under her ear after the hep. B vaccine... I was

> > > also wondering if it could have been a virus form me instead. i have

> > > always had herpes virus on my lip all my life. i am wondering if it

> > > all the damage that she got is from me instead of the vaccine????

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>

> my dd had the lump under her ear after the hep. B vaccine... I was

> also wondering if it could have been a virus form me instead. i have

> always had herpes virus on my lip all my life. i am wondering if it

> all the damage that she got is from me instead of the vaccine????

It could be because the HepB vax destroyed her immune system [which is

what it did to my son] and therefore her body was unable to fight off

the herpes virus from you. Try giving lysine. If you notice rashes,

warts, or yeast overgrowth, you are dealing with herpes virus. Might

be other viruses also, but at least you will know that there is at

least herpes to eliminate.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> So I think you're down to hypothesis and then trial and error, and

> readjustment based on patient response, which is the way Dana proceeded

> if I read her emails correctly?

Yes, this is what I did.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks again.

On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:24 AM, danasview wrote:

>

> > So I think you're down to hypothesis and then trial and error, and

> > readjustment based on patient response, which is the way Dana

> proceeded

> > if I read her emails correctly?

>

> Yes, this is what I did.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

....and if you give high doses of Vit. C.... and they get rashes and

blisters. What virus would that be?

On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:18 AM, danasview wrote:

>

> >

> > my dd had the lump under her ear after the hep. B vaccine... I was

> > also wondering if it could have been a virus form me instead. i have

> > always had herpes virus on my lip all my life. i am wondering if it

> > all the damage that she got is from me instead of the vaccine????

>

> It could be because the HepB vax destroyed her immune system [which is

> what it did to my son] and therefore her body was unable to fight off

> the herpes virus from you. Try giving lysine. If you notice rashes,

> warts, or yeast overgrowth, you are dealing with herpes virus. Might

> be other viruses also, but at least you will know that there is at

> least herpes to eliminate.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't get it. When I get a herpes blister on my lip.... I take

Lysine....and it goes away. Your saying that if my dd takes it, and

she GETS blisters she has the virus? How come I don't get warts and

blisters when I take it, and I know I have the herpes virus on my lip??

On Dec 1, 2008, at 9:18 AM, danasview wrote:

>

> >

> > my dd had the lump under her ear after the hep. B vaccine... I was

> > also wondering if it could have been a virus form me instead. i have

> > always had herpes virus on my lip all my life. i am wondering if it

> > all the damage that she got is from me instead of the vaccine????

>

> It could be because the HepB vax destroyed her immune system [which is

> what it did to my son] and therefore her body was unable to fight off

> the herpes virus from you. Try giving lysine. If you notice rashes,

> warts, or yeast overgrowth, you are dealing with herpes virus. Might

> be other viruses also, but at least you will know that there is at

> least herpes to eliminate.

>

> Dana

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> ...and if you give high doses of Vit. C.... and they get rashes and

> blisters. What virus would that be?

I know specifically that it would include cold/flu viruses. It

probably includes most other viruses also. Lysine is specific to

herpes viruses. Vitamin A might be helpful for more than just measles

virus.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> I don't get it. When I get a herpes blister on my lip.... I take

> Lysine....and it goes away. Your saying that if my dd takes it, and

> she GETS blisters she has the virus? How come I don't get warts and

> blisters when I take it, and I know I have the herpes virus on my lip??

Lysine pulled herpes virus out of my son's brain. It caused " typical

virus symptoms " on its way out. So for example, he had ONE wart on

his wrist. I gave him lysine and the wart grew huge, and several

other warts appeared on his hands. A month later they were gone, and

then he developed nasty huge case of plantar warts on both feet.

Plantar warts took almost 8 months to go away, and they grew huge

first. But the larger the warts grew, the more my son's language and

social interest grew, and the fewer stims he had.

So the virus was coming out of my son's brain.

Dana

[Guest guest]

...how old is your child. Did you start at that dose?

On Dec 2, 2008, at 4:14 PM, S. wrote:

> What is the dosage that u give? Right now, I give 500mg in the am

> and pm

>

> [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

>

>

> > I don't get it. When I get a herpes blister on my lip.... I take

> > Lysine....and it goes away. Your saying that if my dd takes it, and

> > she GETS blisters she has the virus? How come I don't get warts and

> > blisters when I take it, and I know I have the herpes virus on my

> lip??

>

> Lysine pulled herpes virus out of my son's brain. It caused " typical

> virus symptoms " on its way out. So for example, he had ONE wart on

> his wrist. I gave him lysine and the wart grew huge, and several

> other warts appeared on his hands. A month later they were gone, and

> then he developed nasty huge case of plantar warts on both feet.

> Plantar warts took almost 8 months to go away, and they grew huge

> first. But the larger the warts grew, the more my son's language and

> social interest grew, and the fewer stims he had.

>

> So the virus was coming out of my son's brain.

>

> Dana

>

>

[Guest guest]

Iman is 8 and 55lbs.  Yep, I started at that dose; I read on a couple of sites

to start at 1250mg and for severe cases 2mg per day so I thought 500mg 2x day

was safe.

We've been doing it for 6 days now and I haven't seen diarrhea but I'm wondering

if what I saw on day one was cramps.  She's not having cramps anymore but she

has diarrhea today.

Now, I'm assuming that is due to the Magnesium (oxide) that she is taking; 250mg

2x day.

Dana, should I continue giving the magnesium and drop the Lysine dosage or

should I stay where we are at since we have already started?

> What is the dosage that u give? Right now, I give 500mg in the am

> and pm

>

> [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

>

>

> > I don't get it. When I get a herpes blister on my lip.... I take

> > Lysine....and it goes away. Your saying that if my dd takes it, and

> > she GETS blisters she has the virus? How come I don't get warts and

> > blisters when I take it, and I know I have the herpes virus on my

> lip??

>

> Lysine pulled herpes virus out of my son's brain. It caused " typical

> virus symptoms " on its way out. So for example, he had ONE wart on

> his wrist. I gave him lysine and the wart grew huge, and several

> other warts appeared on his hands. A month later they were gone, and

> then he developed nasty huge case of plantar warts on both feet.

> Plantar warts took almost 8 months to go away, and they grew huge

> first. But the larger the warts grew, the more my son's language and

> social interest grew, and the fewer stims he had.

>

> So the virus was coming out of my son's brain.

>

> Dana

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Iman is 8 and 55lbs. Yep, I started at that dose; I read on a

couple of sites to start at 1250mg and for severe cases 2mg per day so

I thought 500mg 2x day was safe.

That is a good dose to start with.

> We've been doing it for 6 days now and I haven't seen diarrhea but

I'm wondering if what I saw on day one was cramps. She's not having

cramps anymore but she has diarrhea today.

> Now, I'm assuming that is due to the Magnesium (oxide) that she is

taking; 250mg 2x day.

I would suspect the diarrhea is more related to the magnesium than to

the lysine.

> Dana, should I continue giving the magnesium and drop the Lysine

dosage or should I stay where we are at since we have already started?

Try keeping the lysine dose and reduce the magnesium, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> so if your child gets blisters or warts from the lysine...you will

> know he has the herpes virus?

Those were two of the symptoms that appeared relatively quickly after

I started lysine. Two of my kids also developed a rash for a few

days, which started the very next day after I started the lysine.

This rash lasted about 2-3 days, then left.

http://www.danasview.net/3_rash.jpg

Dana

[Guest guest]

So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse reaction (aside

from cramps on the first day), should I increase the dosage? (we are at 500mg

2x per day)

[ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

>

> so if your child gets blisters or warts from the lysine...you will

> know he has the herpes virus?

Those were two of the symptoms that appeared relatively quickly after

I started lysine. Two of my kids also developed a rash for a few

days, which started the very next day after I started the lysine.

This rash lasted about 2-3 days, then left.

http://www.danasview.net/3_rash.jpg

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks.

[ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

> Iman is 8 and 55lbs. Yep, I started at that dose; I read on a

couple of sites to start at 1250mg and for severe cases 2mg per day so

I thought 500mg 2x day was safe.

That is a good dose to start with.

> We've been doing it for 6 days now and I haven't seen diarrhea but

I'm wondering if what I saw on day one was cramps. She's not having

cramps anymore but she has diarrhea today.

> Now, I'm assuming that is due to the Magnesium (oxide) that she is

taking; 250mg 2x day.

I would suspect the diarrhea is more related to the magnesium than to

the lysine.

> Dana, should I continue giving the magnesium and drop the Lysine

dosage or should I stay where we are at since we have already started?

Try keeping the lysine dose and reduce the magnesium, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I increase the

dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Last night, I saw some fine bumps around her mouth that extended up to her

nose.  They were alot but they are really fine so they don't stand out as much. 

I've seen these come and go in the past along with the boils on her butt. 

Before I started this, she actually had a boil on her side but its gone now.

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:39 AM

> So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I increase the

dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>

> Last night, I saw some fine bumps around her mouth that extended up

to her nose. They were alot but they are really fine so they don't

stand out as much. I've seen these come and go in the past along with

the boils on her butt. Before I started this, she actually had a boil

on her side but its gone now.

If this is after starting lysine, keep the lysine and watch for yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

With the Virastop, should I just give it to my daughter AM and PM?  I have given

it to her twice in the afternoon and she went to sleep everytime.  Is this too

much?

From: danasview <danasview@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:39 AM

> So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I increase the

dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

Dana

[Guest guest]

why do you think she went to sleep? I would love for my dd to

sleep. She NEVER gets tired!!! Why do you think it makes her sleep?

On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Strozier wrote:

> With the Virastop, should I just give it to my daughter AM and PM?

> I have given it to her twice in the afternoon and she went to sleep

> everytime. Is this too much?

>

>

>

> From: danasview <danasview@...>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

>

> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:39 AM

>

>

> > So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

> reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I increase the

> dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

>

> When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

> aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

> cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

> you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

>

> Dana

>

>

[Guest guest]

Let me correct, it was 3 times (Sat and Sun last week) and today.  I gave

antiviral in the afternoon and she went to sleep about an hour later ..... she

never sleeps in the afternoon!!!  I don't know if this is a good thing.... the

first 2 times, I woke her up after about 20 minutes but my Mom was watching her

today and let her sleep for 2 hours!!  I just took her temperature and it's 101

which I don't understand as she has been in the house most of the day.

>

> From: danasview <danasview (DOT) com>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

>

> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:39 AM

>

>

> > So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

> reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I increase the

> dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

>

> When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

> aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

> cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

> you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

>

> Dana

>

>

[Guest guest]

If I remember correctly.. i think someone mentioned fever with

antiviral. i am curious to see what dana has to say. i hope its a

virus coming out of her

On Dec 6, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Strozier wrote:

> Let me correct, it was 3 times (Sat and Sun last week) and today.

> I gave antiviral in the afternoon and she went to sleep about an

> hour later ..... she never sleeps in the afternoon!!! I don't know

> if this is a good thing.... the first 2 times, I woke her up after

> about 20 minutes but my Mom was watching her today and let her

> sleep for 2 hours!! I just took her temperature and it's 101 which

> I don't understand as she has been in the house most of the day.

>

>

>

> >

>

> > From: danasview <danasview (DOT) com>

>

> > Subject: [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

>

> >

>

> > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:39 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

>

> > reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I increase the

>

> > dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

>

> >

>

> > When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

>

> > aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

>

> > cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

>

> > you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

>

> >

>

> > Dana

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

Me too. I freaked and was going to give her some Motrin but I calmed down and

gave her some gatorade to get some fluids in her. Right now we are down to 99.8

which makes me feel better. I'm on onibasu trying to find some previous posts.

[ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

>

> >

>

> > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:39 AM

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > > So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

>

> > reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I increase the

>

> > dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

>

> >

>

> > When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

>

> > aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

>

> > cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

>

> > you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

>

> >

>

> > Dana

>

> >

>

> >

[Guest guest]

I remember just recently someone saying something about fever. I

think it means her immune system is working better. Don't quote me on

that. I am really new at all this!! LOL I just gave my dd her second

Lysine but I don't think sleep is anywhere is sight. Ugh!!!! are you

doing Vit. C too?

On Dec 6, 2008, at 8:01 PM, S. wrote:

> Me too. I freaked and was going to give her some Motrin but I

> calmed down and gave her some gatorade to get some fluids in her.

> Right now we are down to 99.8 which makes me feel better. I'm on

> onibasu trying to find some previous posts.

>

> [ ] Re: Herpes/Dana

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:39 AM

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > > So say we have been doing lysine for 6 days now with no adverse

> >

> > > reaction (aside from cramps on the first day), should I

> increase the

> >

> > > dosage? (we are at 500mg 2x per day)

> >

> > >

> >

> > > When my son no longer needed lysine, it caused him to be mean and

> >

> > > aggressive. It caused two of my other kids to develop nasty heel

> >

> > > cracks. So I would say if you are seeing basically *nothing*, that

> >

> > > you should continue it, or maybe increase it.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Dana

> >

> > >

> >

> > >