Re: B12 injections- pros or cons

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my son is folic defiffcant to may i ask how much you give??and what brand?

thanks linda

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> We are considering giving the B12 injections so I am really

interested in hearing people's stories about good OR bad effects from

the injections.

I used oral with great results. It did require folic acid and

carnitine for proper absorption, and it did tend to increase yeast.

But it was very helpful for my son for several issues.

> My son started folinic acid 4 days ago and I think there is a

mild improvement in his receptive language already and he is

spontaneously laughing more frequently at silly/funny things

throughout the day.

My son was SEVERELY folic deficient and folic was wonderful for him.

It also required carnitine for proper absorption.

Be careful, excessive laughing, especially if there is no apparent

cause of the laughter, usually means yeast overgrowth. Both folic and

B12 tend to increase yeast.

> Anyone have experience with giving folinic acid via injection?

I gave both B12 and folic orally, not injection.

Dana

[Guest guest]

mb12 injections have been one of my son's wonder supplements, big gains, a

little hyper but that wore off, now we are doing every other night.I love

them!Alison M

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> off for the last week. I noticed a little regression but I had

> forgotten how spacey he was when he first started on the shots. I got

> a reminder this morning. He was such a space cadet. I had to tell him

> to do things using short sentences and much repetition.

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> These shots are so amazing for him, though, even with that small side

> effect. Because his progress was somewhat subtle, I hadn't realized

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> higher while on the shots.

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> giving them or causing their children pain. I took one of the shots

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[Guest guest]

I second that this is has been the biggest bang for my buck. Big gains........I

am so glad I do them.....I heard that folinic or folic acid added to the shots

make them painful. Heard that several times.....HTH!

Tami >Mom of 4----daughter 10 NT,daughter 9 NT, daughter 7 ADHD, 2 year old son

ASD

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Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2008 6:03:32 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] B12 injections- pros or cons

mb12 injections have been one of my son's wonder supplements, big gains, a

little hyper but that wore off, now we are doing every other night.I love

them!Alison M

--------- [ ] I've been giving my son B12 shots per the Neubrander

> protocol

>

> Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 3:57 PM

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>

> for about 3 months. We ran out just before Thanksgiving and the

> pharmacy couldn't get them to us until yesterday so he ended up being

> off for the last week. I noticed a little regression but I had

> forgotten how spacey he was when he first started on the shots. I got

> a reminder this morning. He was such a space cadet. I had to tell him

> to do things using short sentences and much repetition.

>

> These shots are so amazing for him, though, even with that small side

> effect. Because his progress was somewhat subtle, I hadn't realized

> how quickly I had come to rely on his receptive language being so much

> higher while on the shots.

>

> As an aside for anyone thinking about doing the shots but afraid of

> giving them or causing their children pain. I took one of the shots

> early on and I couldn't really call the feeling pain - it was more of

> a mosquito bite and a mild one at that. We started this whole thing

> with emla cream and sneaking at night but these days, I just pull out

> the shot and my kiddo pulls his pants down, he watches me give it and

> then he pulls his pants back on and continues on his way - he doesn't

> even rub it.

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[Guest guest]

If you seen significant gains from MB12, then there is a good chance it

is from the support role of methylation.

You could then look into other options that support methylation, which

can include indirect things like folic acid or folinic acid, which

supports the folate cycle which in turn supports methylation.

We have not used folinic or folic acid in shots, we just give it orally

and it has been well tolerated.

Methylation is often damaged by mercury.

Tami wrote:

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> I second that this is has been the biggest bang for my buck. Big

> gains........I am so glad I do them.....I heard that folinic or folic

> acid added to the shots make them painful. Heard that several

> times.....HTH!

>

> Tami >Mom of 4----daughter 10 NT,daughter 9 NT, daughter 7 ADHD, 2

> year old son ASD

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> mb12 injections have been one of my son's wonder supplements, big

> gains, a little hyper but that wore off, now we are doing every other

> night.I love them!Alison M

> --------- [ ] I've been giving my son B12 shots per the

> Neubrander

> > protocol

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> > for about 3 months. We ran out just before Thanksgiving and the

> > pharmacy couldn't get them to us until yesterday so he ended up being

> > off for the last week. I noticed a little regression but I had

> > forgotten how spacey he was when he first started on the shots. I got

> > a reminder this morning. He was such a space cadet. I had to tell him

> > to do things using short sentences and much repetition.

> >

> > These shots are so amazing for him, though, even with that small side

> > effect. Because his progress was somewhat subtle, I hadn't realized

> > how quickly I had come to rely on his receptive language being so much

> > higher while on the shots.

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> > As an aside for anyone thinking about doing the shots but afraid of

> > giving them or causing their children pain. I took one of the shots

> > early on and I couldn't really call the feeling pain - it was more of

> > a mosquito bite and a mild one at that. We started this whole thing

> > with emla cream and sneaking at night but these days, I just pull out

> > the shot and my kiddo pulls his pants down, he watches me give it and

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[Guest guest]

> my son is folic defiffcant to may i ask how much you give??and what

brand?

Most kids appear to need 800-1600mcg per day, so I would start with

800mcg and see how that goes. I used Henry's brand. Some kids need

folinic. My son required carnitine for proper absorption of folic.

Dana