Re: anyone doing chelation on their own?

[Guest guest]

Hi there! Many of us are doing chelation on our own if not the

majority of us. Most of us trust Dr. Hall Cutler, author of

Amalgam Illness and Hair Test Interpretation books, who frequently

makes an appearance on this board to answer questions, clear up

misinformation, etc. He is a chemist who has chelated himself and

found the half-life of DMSA and ALA in the body and uses this

information for his protocol recommendations. (See files for printable

version of his protocol)

I suggest reading the files and archives. There are many people here

who know his protocol quite well and are experienced chelating

themselves and their children. I use www.onibasu.com to search the

group on specific symptoms or topics I am interested

in. This group has been going for quite a long time and many questions

been asked and answered already. Most of the information I use in

chelating my boys I find on this group and in Andy's " Amalgam Illness "

book.

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> Anyone out there doing chelation on their own... where do you get

your

> knowledge from? Who do you trust?

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[Guest guest]

Many of us are here because we are doing it on our own. You may want to

start with the files section of the board. Cutler's book Amalgam

Illness was a great help, as is much of his info. http://www.noamalgam.com

Also, the many parents who are here recovering their children and

themselves and the wealth of experiential knowledge they share is great.

As for who I trust, no one person, but a compilation of corroborating

information from those with knowledge of the science of it all and the

experience of first hand application.

Hope that helps. Best to you in your journey.

p.

mvpoppins wrote:

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> Anyone out there doing chelation on their own... where do you get your

> knowledge from? Who do you trust?

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[Guest guest]

Yes, we are on our own.

Our doctors are not well read when it comes to chelation, so all of the

advice they have given me in regard to chelation has been wrong and

potentially harmful.

Fortunately I did not listen to them, but did a LOT of reading (which

continues every day).

mvpoppins wrote:

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> knowledge from? Who do you trust?

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[Guest guest]

Please share more... where did you find your protocol?

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 07/09/2008 06:03:56 GMT Daylight Time, peter@...

writes:

Yes, we are on our own.

Our doctors are not well read when it comes to chelation, so all of the

advice they have given me in regard to chelation has been wrong and

potentially harmful.

Fortunately I did not listen to them, but did a LOT of reading (which

continues every day).

>>>Ditto

Mandi in UK

[Guest guest]

My decision became clear after much reading when I realized that

Cutler's protocol is the only protocol to date that specifically aims to

minimize redistribution. This is the key to effective and safe

chelation. The other major factor, is Cutler's protocol is the only

protocol to date that aims to remove mercury from the brain in the

safest possible manner.

Andy's protocol is based on independent research. Its' actually well

thought out. It is inconvenient, but to my mind that consideration is

irrelevant given the problems we are trying to overcome.

Also consider Andy doesn't get kick backs when you purchase DMSA, or

ALA, etc. He has no financial incentive to advise you to use one

chelator over another. But you will notice a lot of BAD chelation

advice comes from people who are trying to sell you their " chelation "

miracle product. And of course their advice invariably results in " buy

my chelator! "

mvpoppins wrote:

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[Guest guest]

> > > > Anyone out there doing chelation on their own... where do you get

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> > > > knowledge from? Who do you trust?

Some people find my books useful

www.noamalgam.com

www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

there is also much useful information in the files section.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Most of us are chelating on our own. I have no children (with or without

autism) but am chelating myself. Please note that Andy Cutler does have a PhD

and I follow his protocol but he prefers not to be referred to at " Dr. " on this

list because people think of that as a medical doctor, which he is not. He is a

PhD chemist, mercury poisoning survivor, and has helped chelate his girlfriend's

mercury toxic kid.

I order my own DDI hair elements tests (yearly) through DLS. I buy ALA at Whole

Foods Market. I order DMSA from www.vrp.com . I research a lot and listen to

my body. I spend a lot of time on this list and pay attention to the

experiences of others. I read labels. My off-the-charts high arsenic is now in

the green on the most recent hair elements test. I no longer meet counting

rules for mercury toxicity but I'm not done yet.

S S

anyone doing chelation on their own?

Posted by: " mvpoppins " mvpoppins@... mvpoppins

Sat Sep 6, 2008 6:34 pm (PDT)

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[Guest guest]

who do I trust? Implicitly - no one, including Andy. However, Andy is

as close to " trusting " anyone as I get...4 & 5 years ago, I was

reading every book the library possessed, and later, browsing any

leads I could find on the net - initially, was too ill/blahblahblah to

sit that long and/or comprehend what computerland might offer - took

me quite a bit of time & needed the printed words, because it was sooo

time consuming for me...big sigh, apologies for the minor vent

there...anyway, I found glutathione first (a link for all the myriad

belly issues in my house and my migraine girl's most apparent issue

back then), then sulphur connections, that helped explains bits and

pieces more, then mercury. Mercury quickly became the simplest, most

likely answer...side note - in mercury abstracts, I was looking for

things to do, or avoid. I kept coming across the phrase " ...mercury

causes cell apoptosis.... " After about a month-ish or so, I decided I

really needed to find out what apoptosis was. major aarrgghh - spent

some time revisiting all the info I had just " skimmed. " I was not a

happy camper. big growls heard around the world about then, I am sure.

Then during the same time period (which is kinda mashed all together

in my memory at this point) I found the autism link, this group & got

a migraine diagnosis for my then almost 2yo girl....to kinda sum it up

- so far, Andy is the only one who consistently & reliably provides

the answers that mesh with all the information I have found, do find,

on my own that applies to our huge puzzle of toxic mess, that my

household is living thru, has lived thru...there are no one size fits

all answers & he seems to be the only one willing to shout that part

out - that figures in too..(did that make sense? lol)...

I trust me, and Andy, to about the same degree - I doublecheck

everything, more than once, twice, and then again, then I decide what

to do next, do that, and move forward....ultimately, the buck stops

with me - not Andy...We have done a couple rounds here & there, but

when we get to the consistent chelating, the buck will (continue to)

stop with me - I am the only one who has any idea what all our various

needs/issues could emcompass. I am the only one with any clue(s) as to

what would be best for US..and Andy has the information I need to do

it in a manner that causes the least harm, imho...

When it comes to chelating, I trust me and " Andy info. " wishing you,

and all, the best answers, elizabeth

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> Anyone out there doing chelation on their own... where do you get your

> knowledge from? Who do you trust?

>

[Guest guest]

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> Anyone out there doing chelation on their own... where do you get your

> knowledge from? Who do you trust?

All four of my kids are fully chelated, and I am about 3/4 completed.

I used ALA. I never used a doctor or any other " medical

professional " . I did a lot of research on the internet, asked a lot

of questions, and then made my own decisions. I trusted my research,

knowledge, intuition, and the reactions I saw with my kids and myself.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> who do I trust? Implicitly - no one, including Andy.

Good for you!

Please, everyone note, I am not trying to get you to convert to yet another sect

of the

pseudoscience religion that the MD world wants you to worship, where I become

the one

who is infallible.

I want you to think for yourselves about biomedical science and to that end I do

spend a

LOT of time answering questions over and over and over.

I'm not infallible, despite my best efforts I make mistakes too.

Please learn, think, analyze, research, consider, and then make the best

decision you can

for your child (or yourself). Don't go glassy eyed and let me or anyone else

tell you what

to do.

> However, Andy is

> as close to " trusting " anyone as I get...4 & 5 years ago, I was

> reading every book the library possessed, and later, browsing any

> leads I could find on the net - initially, was too ill/blahblahblah to

> sit that long and/or comprehend what computerland might offer - took

> me quite a bit of time & needed the printed words, because it was sooo

> time consuming for me...big sigh, apologies for the minor vent

> there...anyway, I found glutathione first (a link for all the myriad

> belly issues in my house and my migraine girl's most apparent issue

> back then), then sulphur connections, that helped explains bits and

> pieces more, then mercury. Mercury quickly became the simplest, most

> likely answer...side note - in mercury abstracts, I was looking for

> things to do, or avoid. I kept coming across the phrase " ...mercury

> causes cell apoptosis.... " After about a month-ish or so, I decided I

> really needed to find out what apoptosis was. major aarrgghh - spent

> some time revisiting all the info I had just " skimmed. " I was not a

> happy camper. big growls heard around the world about then, I am sure.

> Then during the same time period (which is kinda mashed all together

> in my memory at this point) I found the autism link, this group & got

> a migraine diagnosis for my then almost 2yo girl....to kinda sum it up

> - so far, Andy is the only one who consistently & reliably provides

> the answers that mesh with all the information I have found, do find,

> on my own that applies to our huge puzzle of toxic mess, that my

> household is living thru, has lived thru...there are no one size fits

> all answers & he seems to be the only one willing to shout that part

> out - that figures in too..(did that make sense? lol)...

>

> I trust me, and Andy, to about the same degree - I doublecheck

> everything, more than once, twice, and then again, then I decide what

> to do next, do that, and move forward....ultimately, the buck stops

> with me - not Andy...We have done a couple rounds here & there, but

> when we get to the consistent chelating, the buck will (continue to)

> stop with me - I am the only one who has any idea what all our various

> needs/issues could emcompass. I am the only one with any clue(s) as to

> what would be best for US..and Andy has the information I need to do

> it in a manner that causes the least harm, imho...

>

> When it comes to chelating, I trust me and " Andy info. " wishing you,

> and all, the best answers, elizabeth

>

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> > Anyone out there doing chelation on their own... where do you get your

> > knowledge from? Who do you trust?

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