Re: Severe Fight/Flight Irreg

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-My daughter doesn't have this as bad as your son, but she does have

this problem. The smallest things set her off. If I tell the baby 'no'

my daughter will scream. If we deny her anything she screams.

Have you tried Adrenal Cortex Extract? I wonder if he has too much

adrenaline? I just ordered some. Maybe thyroid is an issue for him as

well?

-- In , " lori_mcilwain "

<lori_mcilwain@...> wrote:

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>

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> My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large meltdowns over

the (seemingly) smallest

> things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for the past

five months -- she and I

> have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets him off.

He's a very sweet boy,

> but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself. He'll try

to go after her. He was

> doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown

yesterday after he got a

> small bump on the head.

>

> Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried anything

that's helped? Alpha

> blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Lori

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much. I'll look into it. Where did you order yours from?

> >

> >

> >

> > My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large meltdowns over

> the (seemingly) smallest

> > things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for the past

> five months -- she and I

> > have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets him off.

> He's a very sweet boy,

> > but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself. He'll try

> to go after her. He was

> > doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown

> yesterday after he got a

> > small bump on the head.

> >

> > Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried anything

> that's helped? Alpha

> > blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> > Lori

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just ordered it yesterday from Iherb.com I'm hoping it helps, it's

very hard to live with my daughter some/most days because so many

things set her off.

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> > >

> > >

> > > My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large meltdowns over

> > the (seemingly) smallest

> > > things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for the past

> > five months -- she and I

> > > have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets him off.

> > He's a very sweet boy,

> > > but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself. He'll try

> > to go after her. He was

> > > doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown

> > yesterday after he got a

> > > small bump on the head.

> > >

> > > Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried anything

> > that's helped? Alpha

> > > blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > >

> > > Lori

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lori,

Sounds rough. What are you doing to support adrenals? What auditory

sensitivity things have you tried: Listening Program, AIT, EaseDisc, Tomitits,

etc? Are you chelating? Have you tried anything like HearOs? What supps is he

on?

S S

Posted by: " lori_mcilwain " lori_mcilwain@... lori_mcilwain

Sun Dec 7, 2008 1:27 pm (PST)

My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large meltdowns over the

(seemingly) smallest

things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for the past five months

-- she and I

have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets him off. He's a very

sweet boy,

but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself. He'll try to go after

her. He was

doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown yesterday after

he got a

small bump on the head.

Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried anything that's

helped? Alpha

blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

Thanks in advance,

Lori

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My son was like this when his Yeast was untreated.

Pamela

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Subject: [ ] Severe Fight/Flight Irreg

My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large meltdowns over the

(seemingly) smallest

things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for the past five

months -- she and I

have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets him off. He's a

very sweet boy,

but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself. He'll try to go

after her. He was

doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown yesterday

after he got a

small bump on the head.

Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried anything that's

helped? Alpha

blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

Thanks in advance,

Lori

[Guest guest]

Hi, -- chelation makes it much worse...always has. We've done Ease, and

that helped

a lot with inflection sensitivity (not so much sound, just inflections would

bother him).

Loud noises don't affect him as much as what I call " emotional noises " -- which

would be

the dog barking or sister crying. Those are the only ones he reacts to these

days -- they

cause the most amount of stress.

Not doing anything for adrenals -- the Adrenal Extract was mentioned earlier.

Could it

have the opposite effect?...anxiety, insomnia? I read a little about it this

afternoon. Have

you tried it as well?

He's on child essence, creon, Klaire probio's, GSH, minocycline + extra zinc,

mag, omegas,

vit a/c...

GABA didn't help him much, but I'm thinking about going back to increase the

dose.

One doctor wanted me to do nicotine patch, but I'm very hesitant...

>

> Hi Lori,

> Sounds rough. What are you doing to support adrenals? What auditory

sensitivity

things have you tried: Listening Program, AIT, EaseDisc, Tomitits, etc? Are you

chelating?

Have you tried anything like HearOs? What supps is he on?

> S S

>

> Posted by: " lori_mcilwain " lori_mcilwain@... lori_mcilwain

> Sun Dec 7, 2008 1:27 pm (PST)

>

>

> My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large meltdowns over the

(seemingly)

smallest

> things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for the past five

months -- she

and I

> have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets him off. He's a

very sweet

boy,

> but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself. He'll try to go

after her. He was

> doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown yesterday

after he

got a

> small bump on the head.

>

> Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried anything that's

helped? Alpha

> blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

> Lori

>

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[Guest guest]

I understand completely. I hope it helps, . Keep me posted...it sounds

like our

children are a lot alike. Please write if you ever need a vent-partner...

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large meltdowns over

> > > the (seemingly) smallest

> > > > things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for the past

> > > five months -- she and I

> > > > have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets him off.

> > > He's a very sweet boy,

> > > > but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself. He'll try

> > > to go after her. He was

> > > > doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown

> > > yesterday after he got a

> > > > small bump on the head.

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried anything

> > > that's helped? Alpha

> > > > blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > >

> > > > Lori

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

They do sound alike. When my 15 month old was first born Ruby would

scream when the baby cried. It went on for a couple of months and then

she seemed to get used to it. I know that the MB12 injections seemed

to help her with noise sensitivity, at least I think they did because

before the shots even just turning the taps on in the kitchen would

make her scream. Some days just my voice made her scream....yeah good

times. But she is not screaming over those things now. Now she

screams over anything I won't let her have or do. Anything negative

now even if it has nothing to do with her.

This weekend has been the worst and I think it's because I need to

space out our chelation weekends a bit more. It's so frustrating and

discouraging isn't it? She will do so well for a week and then boom

she's screaming over things again. This is why I am really hoping it's

her adrenals and I can help her. She does seem like she has too much

adrenaline.

Vent to me anytime too!

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> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > My son has severe fight/flight problems. Very large

meltdowns over

> > > > the (seemingly) smallest

> > > > > things. We've had to separate him from his baby sister for

the past

> > > > five months -- she and I

> > > > > have been living in an apartment -- because her crying sets

him off.

> > > > He's a very sweet boy,

> > > > > but in stress-mode, it's hard for him to control himself.

He'll try

> > > > to go after her. He was

> > > > > doing well for about a week, but we had a two-hour long meltdown

> > > > yesterday after he got a

> > > > > small bump on the head.

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone else's child have this? If so, have you tried

anything

> > > > that's helped? Alpha

> > > > > blockers haven't seemed to work for us.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance,

> > > > >

> > > > > Lori

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

We've been working on those issues and more for

16 years. We've chelated and supplemented and did

Auditory processing and sensory integration therapies.

What helped us understand more about the brain was

ph LeDoux, a neuroscientist. He says once the

brain has been " injured " (and I mean this in the broadest

sense like toxins, genetics, or physical trauma or any

combination), the volume level has been increased and

it is super sensitive to any perceived threat. That means

once you rid the body of toxins, unless you address the

" volume control " of this part of the brain, called the amygdala,

the body keeps sending out stress hormones, which are

toxic themselves. Maybe someone could invent a game

for younger kids on visualizing the amygdale and how to heal it

because there is no pill for it; it takes heavy duty meditation

to address this vicious cycle. No wonder monks are so calm and healthy?

[Guest guest]

I am soo gonna sound like a broken record here, but I just read thru

this thread & I recognize so much here, with my migraine girl.

Coconut oil rubdowns & epsom salt baths are our first thing to do

here, when she lives in that screeching/screaming meltdown land - and

I also go on a " noise hunt. " Attempt to do something about it,

depending on what it is...I have found that it could be an older child

listening to music on another floor, or the fluorescent lights in the

house (another floor too) are on. Or construction down the street,

that didn't hit " our " radar. When she was an infant, I realized that

about 30 seconds before the furnace would kick on, she would wake up

crying miserable. This was at nite, during quiet, so learned to

" time " the furnace. Every little bit helped, yk? These days, this

mostly happens when we have done more than our usual driving, or she

does a lot of active playing - more " movement thru space " during a

given day & her tolerance for noise goes down. Food infractions can

lower her tolerance too...anyway, for her, these two - rather simple

love that - things are what help the most. Also, I recognize the

" retraining the brain " thing. For us, most recently, this connects to

her ability to flush the toilet all by herself, on the run with a

huge celebration every time. " I am a big kid now, mom, I can do this "

This has been on her " how to be a big kid " radar for about 2-3mos &

she has been doing alot of talking/playpretending/questioning to get

to this moment She has struggled with knowing the sound of running

water is not a dangerous thing, but running water, of any type, has

always felt like some sort of huge scary something to her. wishing

you the best, elizabeth

>

> We've been working on those issues and more for

>

> 16 years. We've chelated and supplemented and did

>

> Auditory processing and sensory integration therapies.

>

> What helped us understand more about the brain was

>

> ph LeDoux, a neuroscientist. He says once the

>

> brain has been " injured " (and I mean this in the broadest

>

> sense like toxins, genetics, or physical trauma or any

>

> combination), the volume level has been increased and

>

> it is super sensitive to any perceived threat. That means

>

> once you rid the body of toxins, unless you address the

>

> " volume control " of this part of the brain, called the amygdala,

>

> the body keeps sending out stress hormones, which are

>

> toxic themselves. Maybe someone could invent a game

>

> for younger kids on visualizing the amygdale and how to heal it

>

> because there is no pill for it; it takes heavy duty meditation

>

> to address this vicious cycle. No wonder monks are so calm and

healthy?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Very good to know -- I'll try those two things.

> >

> > We've been working on those issues and more for

> >

> > 16 years. We've chelated and supplemented and did

> >

> > Auditory processing and sensory integration therapies.

> >

> > What helped us understand more about the brain was

> >

> > ph LeDoux, a neuroscientist. He says once the

> >

> > brain has been " injured " (and I mean this in the broadest

> >

> > sense like toxins, genetics, or physical trauma or any

> >

> > combination), the volume level has been increased and

> >

> > it is super sensitive to any perceived threat. That means

> >

> > once you rid the body of toxins, unless you address the

> >

> > " volume control " of this part of the brain, called the amygdala,

> >

> > the body keeps sending out stress hormones, which are

> >

> > toxic themselves. Maybe someone could invent a game

> >

> > for younger kids on visualizing the amygdale and how to heal it

> >

> > because there is no pill for it; it takes heavy duty meditation

> >

> > to address this vicious cycle. No wonder monks are so calm and

> healthy?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >