Re: I am a beliver...but no one around me is

December 6, 2008

This is great....your son is recovering. We are making improvements too.

I have told others about this group and how to help their kids. I given out the

links/ handouts from the home page to everyone in my son's class...including the

teacher.

I don't understand why no one seems interested that their kid AS could be from

mercury poisoning from vaccines and/or viral issues.

No one seems interested or believes me. They look at me as if I am from mars. Or

they say that it's the latest " craze " ....until the next " hot " treatment comes

along.

WHY?

From: <elizabethsoliday@...>

Subject: [ ] Our two months off

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

Hi all, we took a couple months off because of my son 's

finger

and the surgery he had on it. It has healed nicely, but looks strange

LOL.

& lt;br>

Anyway, for approx. two months, our son was only on Amla, B-12

>

injections, and Cal-Mag-D. He improved more than he ever has.

Chelating was really tough for him, he had lots of yeast, achey joints,

and was generally uncomfortable. The break has done WONDERS. His

teacher said that all the staff that worked with him were excited to

meet for his progress report because his progress was just amazing!

She said " the words are pouring out of him " and that he loves

participating in first grade...to be taken out is a punishment.

To paraphrase Andy, taking a break allows your body to rebalance all

the things mercury and other metals have disrupted. Well I tell you

what, things are normalizing and rebalancing over here! I started the

kids on another round this weekend and it's going well, we will

continue. I'm a believer! Thanks Andy and all for your support

December 6, 2008

My husband made me a little angry tonight. He and his dad were

talking in the kitchen while I was cooking and his dad said, " so you

don't like to use these pans because the bits of teflon might break

off into the food? " and I said, " yes " , so my husband chimes in and

says, " she'll use the cast iron until someone on the internet tells

her it is bad. " He had a couple drinks in him, so he didn't get the

frying pan slammed on his head....but I felt like it

Yes, it is difficult to convince people what you are doing is right.

I was a bit worried myself until we stopped, my son's body

rebalanced, and I saw the amazing results and so did everyone else.

We went back to chelating this weekend and today was bouncing

off the walls at my father-in-law's because he was all yeasty and

giggley.

I got smart and went into the cupboards and got out some chestnuts

and some plastic bowls, then I cut a hole in a paper plate so he

could drop the chestnuts through the hole into the bowls. He loved

it, and everybody laughed because he played with them with such joy

for the next hour.

It was really hard till I did that though, my husband wanted me to

come visit with them and I was busy chasing him off the furniture and

away from the breakables (father-in-law is house-sitting Yikes!) So

I told them he was yeasty because of the chelation that I was doing.

I am sure they were thinking, he was doing fine, why did she go and

mess him up again!? So trust me, I know, it's a continuous battle no

matter who it is - family or others - in the end they will see, but

for now I do try to keep them informed by telling them all about why

I do what I do.

As for the parents of kids with autism who don't believe, well, I

just don't know what to say. I thought about working in Special Ed,

but when I saw what the kids were experiencing and felt there were

many food allergies causing many of their problems, I didn't want

to. I didn't want to because I knew most of the parents wouldn't

listen and it would be hard for me to watch the kids suffer. If they

wouldn't listen about food allergies, why would they listen about

chelation?

> From: <elizabethsoliday@...>

> Subject: [ ] Our two months off

>

> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

>

> Hi all, we took a couple months off because of my son

's finger

>

> and the surgery he had on it. It has healed nicely, but looks

strange

>

> LOL.

>

> & lt;br>

> Anyway, for approx. two months, our son was only on Amla, B-12

> >

> injections, and Cal-Mag-D. He improved more than he ever has.

>

> Chelating was really tough for him, he had lots of yeast, achey

joints,

>

> and was generally uncomfortable. The break has done WONDERS. His

>

> teacher said that all the staff that worked with him were excited

to

>

> meet for his progress report because his progress was just

amazing!

>

> She said " the words are pouring out of him " and that he loves

>

> participating in first grade...to be taken out is a punishment.

>

> To paraphrase Andy, taking a break allows your body to rebalance

all

>

> the things mercury and other metals have disrupted. Well I tell

you

>

> what, things are normalizing and rebalancing over here! I started

the

>

> kids on another round this weekend and it's going well, we will

>

> continue. I'm a believer! Thanks Andy and all for your support

>

December 6, 2008

,

Don't sweat it.. some parents were saying the EXACT same thing in 1998

when we (myself and only a handful of other lobbyists) were fighting

the Thimerosal fight on the Hill in DC. Even with Rimland and company

giving weeks worth of Testimony that even the pharmy lobbyists

couldn't fight... Some parents called it 'the latest craze'. I

believe that those that say that are very much out of tune with what

the vast majority of us KNOW. I look at things as a 'believer' of our

Maker. I either KNOW.. or I don't. There is no guessing, thinking,

feeling, wondering. I know that this is a battle our God gave us as

he knows we can handle it. Dismiss what is being said and go with

your 'gut feeling' .. which is always right.

E. , The Office of Advocacy for Autistic Children

> From: <elizabethsoliday@...>

> Subject: [ ] Our two months off

>

> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

>

> Hi all, we took a couple months off because of my son

's finger

>

> and the surgery he had on it. It has healed nicely, but looks strange

>

> LOL.

>

> & lt;br>

> Anyway, for approx. two months, our son was only on Amla, B-12

> >

> injections, and Cal-Mag-D. He improved more than he ever has.

>

> Chelating was really tough for him, he had lots of yeast, achey joints,

>

> and was generally uncomfortable. The break has done WONDERS. His

>

> teacher said that all the staff that worked with him were excited to

>

> meet for his progress report because his progress was just amazing!

>

> She said " the words are pouring out of him " and that he loves

>

> participating in first grade...to be taken out is a punishment.

>

> To paraphrase Andy, taking a break allows your body to rebalance all

>

> the things mercury and other metals have disrupted. Well I tell you

>

> what, things are normalizing and rebalancing over here! I started the

>

> kids on another round this weekend and it's going well, we will

>

> continue. I'm a believer! Thanks Andy and all for your support

>

December 6, 2008

Chronic illness, cancer, etc is going to keep rising for a long time

yet, and by the time the majority is ready to listen it will be too late

for a lot of them.

Just help who you can. That's the best you can do.

Would they listen to history? At least one historian has stated their

is sufficient evidence to show the fall of the Roman Empire was directly

due to a new directive that was given that had all grapes for wine

processed through lead lined bowls, etc. Then they ended up with a LOT

of their society lead poisoned and not very competent to do anything.

History is probably going to repeat itself soon.

wrote:

>

> My husband made me a little angry tonight. He and his dad were

> talking in the kitchen while I was cooking and his dad said, " so you

> don't like to use these pans because the bits of teflon might break

> off into the food? " and I said, " yes " , so my husband chimes in and

> says, " she'll use the cast iron until someone on the internet tells

> her it is bad. " He had a couple drinks in him, so he didn't get the

> frying pan slammed on his head....but I felt like it

>

> Yes, it is difficult to convince people what you are doing is right.

> I was a bit worried myself until we stopped, my son's body

> rebalanced, and I saw the amazing results and so did everyone else.

> We went back to chelating this weekend and today was bouncing

> off the walls at my father-in-law's because he was all yeasty and

> giggley.

>

> I got smart and went into the cupboards and got out some chestnuts

> and some plastic bowls, then I cut a hole in a paper plate so he

> could drop the chestnuts through the hole into the bowls. He loved

> it, and everybody laughed because he played with them with such joy

> for the next hour.

>

> It was really hard till I did that though, my husband wanted me to

> come visit with them and I was busy chasing him off the furniture and

> away from the breakables (father-in-law is house-sitting Yikes!) So

> I told them he was yeasty because of the chelation that I was doing.

> I am sure they were thinking, he was doing fine, why did she go and

> mess him up again!? So trust me, I know, it's a continuous battle no

> matter who it is - family or others - in the end they will see, but

> for now I do try to keep them informed by telling them all about why

> I do what I do.

>

> As for the parents of kids with autism who don't believe, well, I

> just don't know what to say. I thought about working in Special Ed,

> but when I saw what the kids were experiencing and felt there were

> many food allergies causing many of their problems, I didn't want

> to. I didn't want to because I knew most of the parents wouldn't

> listen and it would be hard for me to watch the kids suffer. If they

> wouldn't listen about food allergies, why would they listen about

> chelation?

>

> > From: <elizabethsoliday@...>

> > Subject: [ ] Our two months off

> >

> <mailto: %40>

> > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

> >

> > Hi all, we took a couple months off because of my son

> 's finger

> >

> > and the surgery he had on it. It has healed nicely, but looks

> strange

> >

> > LOL.

> >

> > & lt;br>

> > Anyway, for approx. two months, our son was only on Amla, B-12

> > >

> > injections, and Cal-Mag-D. He improved more than he ever has.

> >

> > Chelating was really tough for him, he had lots of yeast, achey

> joints,

> >

> > and was generally uncomfortable. The break has done WONDERS. His

> >

> > teacher said that all the staff that worked with him were excited

> to

> >

> > meet for his progress report because his progress was just

> amazing!

> >

> > She said " the words are pouring out of him " and that he loves

> >

> > participating in first grade...to be taken out is a punishment.

> >

> > To paraphrase Andy, taking a break allows your body to rebalance

> all

> >

> > the things mercury and other metals have disrupted. Well I tell

> you

> >

> > what, things are normalizing and rebalancing over here! I started

> the

> >

> > kids on another round this weekend and it's going well, we will

> >

> > continue. I'm a believer! Thanks Andy and all for your support

> >

December 6, 2008

History is probably going to repeat itself soon.

GROWL. Once again, you have precisely the words for how I often feel.

This is the thought that makes me nuts, that sparks my most fervent

past " vents " ...it is the underlyng thought that keeps most of my

info-slams fairly short. Rarely, if not ever, do I NOT find some sort

of corrobation for even the seemingly most outlandish statements, yk?

I have gone from insanely appalled, to, well, a more defensive sort

of way of being. It does feel inevitable, much much too often. And,

far far too soon, to boot, imho. My favorite found phrase still

remains " bunch of idiot thieves. " Rather sums the whole mess of it

all up quite nicely for me. wishing you, and all, the best, elizabeth

>

> Chronic illness, cancer, etc is going to keep rising for a long time

> yet, and by the time the majority is ready to listen it will be too

late

> for a lot of them.

>

> Just help who you can. That's the best you can do.

>

> Would they listen to history? At least one historian has stated their

> is sufficient evidence to show the fall of the Roman Empire was

directly

> due to a new directive that was given that had all grapes for wine

> processed through lead lined bowls, etc. Then they ended up with a LOT

> of their society lead poisoned and not very competent to do anything.

>

> History is probably going to repeat itself soon.

>

December 6, 2008

I talked with another mom of a spectrum kid today. She said that she grew up on

marine bases. One base had been contaminated by waste from a dry cleaner. The

agents were known to cause certain cancers and birth defects. She has had two

cancers - both listed on that list and her first baby was born with birth defect

listed from that also. She said " I always wonder if it was growing up in that,

that caused my baby to be born with those defects and die within days of birth

and what has caused those cancers. " I would bet money on it! (Even though it

was several years later).

> >

> > My husband made me a little angry tonight. He and his

> dad were

> > talking in the kitchen while I was cooking and his dad

> said, " so you

> > don't like to use these pans because the bits of

> teflon might break

> > off into the food? " and I said, " yes " ,

> so my husband chimes in and

> > says, " she'll use the cast iron until someone

> on the internet tells

> > her it is bad. " He had a couple drinks in him, so

> he didn't get the

> > frying pan slammed on his head....but I felt like it

>

> >

> > Yes, it is difficult to convince people what you are

> doing is right.

> > I was a bit worried myself until we stopped, my

> son's body

> > rebalanced, and I saw the amazing results and so did

> everyone else.

> > We went back to chelating this weekend and today

> was bouncing

> > off the walls at my father-in-law's because he was

> all yeasty and

> > giggley.

> >

> > I got smart and went into the cupboards and got out

> some chestnuts

> > and some plastic bowls, then I cut a hole in a paper

> plate so he

> > could drop the chestnuts through the hole into the

> bowls. He loved

> > it, and everybody laughed because he played with them

> with such joy

> > for the next hour.

> >

> > It was really hard till I did that though, my husband

> wanted me to

> > come visit with them and I was busy chasing him off

> the furniture and

> > away from the breakables (father-in-law is

> house-sitting Yikes!) So

> > I told them he was yeasty because of the chelation

> that I was doing.

> > I am sure they were thinking, he was doing fine, why

> did she go and

> > mess him up again!? So trust me, I know, it's a

> continuous battle no

> > matter who it is - family or others - in the end they

> will see, but

> > for now I do try to keep them informed by telling them

> all about why

> > I do what I do.

> >

> > As for the parents of kids with autism who don't

> believe, well, I

> > just don't know what to say. I thought about

> working in Special Ed,

> > but when I saw what the kids were experiencing and

> felt there were

> > many food allergies causing many of their problems, I

> didn't want

> > to. I didn't want to because I knew most of the

> parents wouldn't

> > listen and it would be hard for me to watch the kids

> suffer. If they

> > wouldn't listen about food allergies, why would

> they listen about

> > chelation?

> >

> > > From: <elizabethsoliday@...>

> > > Subject: [ ] Our two months off

> > >

> > <mailto: %40>

> > > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

> > >

> > > Hi all, we took a couple months off because of my

> son

> > 's finger

> > >

> > > and the surgery he had on it. It has healed

> nicely, but looks

> > strange

> > >

> > > LOL.

> > >

> > > & lt;br>

> > > Anyway, for approx. two months, our son was only

> on Amla, B-12

> > > >

> > > injections, and Cal-Mag-D. He improved more than

> he ever has.

> > >

> > > Chelating was really tough for him, he had lots

> of yeast, achey

> > joints,

> > >

> > > and was generally uncomfortable. The break has

> done WONDERS. His

> > >

> > > teacher said that all the staff that worked with

> him were excited

> > to

> > >

> > > meet for his progress report because his progress

> was just

> > amazing!

> > >

> > > She said " the words are pouring out of

> him " and that he loves

> > >

> > > participating in first grade...to be taken out is

> a punishment.

> > >

> > > To paraphrase Andy, taking a break allows your

> body to rebalance

> > all

> > >

> > > the things mercury and other metals have

> disrupted. Well I tell

> > you

> > >

> > > what, things are normalizing and rebalancing over

> here! I started

> > the

> > >

> > > kids on another round this weekend and it's

> going well, we will

> > >

> > > continue. I'm a believer! Thanks Andy and all

> for your support

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

>

December 7, 2008

We were living on Schofield Barracks in Hawaii when was

born. After I left, I read that they found depleted uranium

there...real close to where I lived. Not too comforting.

> > > > From: <elizabethsoliday@>

> > > > Subject: [ ] Our two months off

> > > >

> > > <mailto: %40>

> > > > Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

> > > >

> > > > Hi all, we took a couple months off because of my

> > son

> > > 's finger

> > > >

> > > > and the surgery he had on it. It has healed

> > nicely, but looks

> > > strange

> > > >

> > > > LOL.

> > > >

> > > > & lt;br>

> > > > Anyway, for approx. two months, our son was only

> > on Amla, B-12

> > > > >

> > > > injections, and Cal-Mag-D. He improved more than

> > he ever has.

> > > >

> > > > Chelating was really tough for him, he had lots

> > of yeast, achey

> > > joints,

> > > >

> > > > and was generally uncomfortable. The break has

> > done WONDERS. His

> > > >

> > > > teacher said that all the staff that worked with

> > him were excited

> > > to

> > > >

> > > > meet for his progress report because his progress

> > was just

> > > amazing!

> > > >

> > > > She said " the words are pouring out of

> > him " and that he loves

> > > >

> > > > participating in first grade...to be taken out is

> > a punishment.

> > > >

> > > > To paraphrase Andy, taking a break allows your

> > body to rebalance

> > > all

> > > >

> > > > the things mercury and other metals have

> > disrupted. Well I tell

> > > you

> > > >

> > > > what, things are normalizing and rebalancing over

> > here! I started

> > > the

> > > >

> > > > kids on another round this weekend and it's

> > going well, we will

> > > >

> > > > continue. I'm a believer! Thanks Andy and all

> > for your support

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > >

> >

December 7, 2008

Because most of our society has been brainwashed to believe that doctors,

mainstream medicine, and pharmaceutical companies have our best interest in

mind. We know that's not the case. Most parents have also been told repeatedly

that autism in lifelong and incurable and not to trust anything parents say on

the internet....Sad, huh? Recover your child and than maybe a few of them will

take note.

S S

Re: I am a beliver...but no one around me is

Posted by: " j. " tastitales@... tastitales

Sat Dec 6, 2008 6:43 pm (PST)

This is great....your son is recovering. We are making improvements too.

I have told others about this group and how to help their kids. I given out the

links/ handouts from the home page to everyone in my son's class...including the

teacher.

I don't understand why no one seems interested that their kid AS could be from

mercury poisoning from vaccines and/or viral issues.

No one seems interested or believes me. They look at me as if I am from mars. Or

they say that it's the latest " craze " ....until the next " hot " treatment comes

along.

WHY?

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December 7, 2008

I feel your pain. I think I can safely say that we have all been in your shoes

at one point or

another. I experienced the same revelation a month or two ago and posted about

it here.

We attended a birthday party for one of my son's classmates, and I was roundly

attacked

at the party for having my son on the gfcf, sf diet. Never mind mercury

poisoning,

vaccines or chelation. I did not even get into that. They jumped on me because

I would

not let my son eat the msg and sugar laden snacks they provided. We brought our

own

cake. We were very mellow and did not say anything until pressed, and we were

attacked

on all sides. One parent even said that gf helped her boy but it was " too much

trouble " so

now he is back to being non verbal and biting people. Then my son's teacher at

a parent

teacher conference derided me for the diet (again forget the rest of biomed I

don't even

get into that ) and told me that what I was doing was bs. I told her that I

wanted to recover

my son like McCarthy did and she said " you do that " ever so

condescendingly.

In many ways we are alone and yes it is astounding to think that other parents

wouldn't

jump on the chance to help their kids regardless of how " alternative " it seems

or that

educators would be against this (my thought is that they feel threatened, that

what they

do is somehow diminished or unimportant in the face of diet and vitamins etc,

when in

fact you need both biomed and the therapeutic interventions as well to have a

recovered

child in my view) And other family members too, yes we all encounter opposition

there

too, because what we do is not " accepted " or sanctioned by the powers that

be--because

they (AAP etc) are the ones behind, the driving forces, that harmed our kids and

continue

to do so to others. I encounter it everyday from my spouse in small ways, even

though he

does generally get the big picture of why we need to do what we do. But the

details are

exhausting - the pots we use etc.

What we do is inconvenient, and it is hard in the sense of being time

consuming, and it is

easier for family members and other parents to be in denial. It is a simpler

place to be, my

child is " genetically impaired " there is nothing we can do. Somedays, sure when

I am up at

3 am with my syringe of chelator, I think to myself, I can get where those other

parents

are, but I can't leave my child mercury poisoned and suffering because it is

" tiring " or

inconvenient.

Hopefully, sometime in our lifetime, the Big Pharma conspiracy will come to an

end, and

what we do will become the mainstream to recover the victims of this conspiracy,

but until

then we have to forge on. In a sense, we are like whistleblowers in what we

believe and do

here, and whistleblowers do not have an easy time of it. It is ok to vent, but

once you make

this realization, you have to pick yourself up and move on and do what you need

to do. I

console myself with the thought, one day my son will be recovered, and that will

be the

best way to show family and others that biomed/chelation is in fact effective

and autism is

curable.

Irene

December 7, 2008

Irene, your post is wonderful. I'm sorry you had such an attack. People

have such a big investment in their diets. When I told my high school best

friend (and this is over 35 years ago) that my daughter didn't do well on cow's

milk, she went bananas. Got really angry and upset.

A few months ago we were talking; she has m.s. pretty bad, even had a

stroke. The m.s. diet is casein-free/gluten-free too, it also being an immune

system problem. She told me that she did much better gf/cf, and then paused

and

said something about giving me a hard time all those years ago! So maybe

some of those parents and others will be eating their words (instead of junk

food).

The birthday party itself reminded me of a sweet memory. We'd moved and my

daughter had just started public school, after being in Montessori. She was

in fourth grade. One little girl had a birthday right in the beginning of

school, and she sent my daughter the sweetest invitation, written herself.

She said: " Don't worry about what to eat at the party. I will have raisins

and other healthy things for you. "

I hope that child has had a wonderful life; her kindness really touched us.

Thanks again for such an eloquent email Irene.

Francine

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December 7, 2008

" ...so he didn't get the frying pan slammed on his head.... "

Well, if you ever feel you must do that, make sure you use the teflon

one. That way you can kill two birds with one stone: vent your

frustrations and prove to him that teflon can hurt you...

Seriously, subconsciously he's probably just a bit jealous that you

are learning all this stuff and are successful in applying it. He's

just showing his own feelings of inadequacy that he is not the one

with the answers. His problem isn't with you. It's with himself. Just

accept his struggle and Zen through it. He'll need some time to sort

it out but, if he's not actively obstructing you in your endeavors,

then he probably knows you're doing the right thing and his heart is

in the right place too. Try not to take it too personally. He'll come

around.

Healthseeker

December 26, 2008

People do not believe, except what they are told by mainstream medicine--it was

different 100 years ago--before drugs were big business

From: <elizabethsoliday>

Subject: [ ] Our two months off

Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 10:28 AM

Hi all, we took a couple months off because of my son 's finger