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Please Help... regarding DMSA chelation every other day

Posted by: " tokarentw " tokarentw@... tokarentw

Sat Dec 6, 2008 11:06 pm (PST)

Dear Andy,

Please Help... I research the listserv and found your site

talk about the dangerous of DMSA every other day chelation. So I

bought the Amalgan Illness book and reading it. My God, I wish I

find your book sooner, Unfortuantely, the harm is already been done.

I want to optimize his health before the chelation again, the

following is the vitamin supplement treatment he is getting now. I

hope you can give me some suggestion on what else I need to do or if

I miss anything else.

My son started in BioMed treatment this year 08, and he was 3 1/2 yr

old diagnosed as very high function Autism. We did Hair Toxic

Element Exposure Profile, The Titanium is 2.1 (<2.0), Arsenic 0.15

(<0.20), Chromium 0.64 (<0.80). The rest looks in normal range.

*You want the hair elements test in order to apply the counting rules for

mercury.

Our DAN DR recommended DMSA every other day 25mg capsules for 2

months (Feb08-Apri08) with no mineral supplement.

*Get rid of the DAN dr. Most on this list chelate on their own without a doc.

The only

supplement my son took during chelation was Kirkman Nu-Thera liquid

1/2 tsp a day, Kirkman Glutathionne Lotion twice a day, Kirkman

Immuno-Aid twice a day, Nordic Natural fish oil liquid 3-6-9 1/2 tsp

a day. In the first week of Chelation, he had terrible diareah and

bed wetting.

*How much does your son weigh. 25 mg is an appropriately beginning dose for a

200 lb person.

We stopped till the sympton went away, then continued

the chelation. My son made good improvement from chelation

especially language, as well as some negative effects such as lots

of hand stimming, like humming, high anxiety, shorter attention

span, mood swing, might ask the same question again and again, talks

to himself sometimes and repeats what he said quietly when

responding other people.

*Seriously consider Andy's protocol.

Most of time he is a happy boy, and he is

learning to read now. No-one can tell he has ASD. So I am not sure

whether he is high in mercury toxic. But I want him to reach to his

max potential.

*You can order the DDI hair elements test through Direct Lab Services without a

doc. If you mention this list they'll give you a discount.

Lately, we plan for HBOT in next few months and we also drew a bunch

of lab test in October 08 just want to make sure he is healthy,

because we heard many autistic kids have health issue.

*HBOT can cause problems for mercury toxic folks, so do the hair test first and

apply counting rules or have us help.

We stop all

the vitamin supplement for 2 weeks before the lab test to get a

baseline. We did Organic Acid Test, Urinary Peptide, Comprehensive

Stool Profile, IgG Food Allergy Panel, Red Blood Cell Element,

Urinary Porphyrin Profile, Urinalysis Routine. We found some major

health problems from lab results. I wonder if that is all caused by

the wrong chelation protocol or he just got it all along.

Here are some questions I have for you. What other things I need to

check before I can start the chelation again. If chelate again,

will the mercury ever be removed from the brain?

*DMSA chelates from the body, you'll eventually need to chelate with ALA to get

the mercury out of the brain.

How soon I have to

start chelate again before the permanent brain damage is done? I

have a dr appt with new DAN dr next month, I want to hear your

suggestion/recommendation before the appt, so I can ask the DR right

question and do the right lab test. I saw 2 Dan DRs last 2 months,

and they don't seem to have experience for my son's case.

*Consider dumping the dr since he or she doesn't understand safe, proper

chelation.

The

following are some my main concerns in the lab result:

Urinalysis Routine from LabCorp:

1) His vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy is very low - 25.1 ng/ML Ref range 32 -

100

My DAN Dr recommend Vit D supplement with 5000IU, 1cap/day.

Would this be too high dose? How long I should take this? I have

my son taking half capsule, would that be adequate?

*Most doctors prescribe a high dose of vit D for 8 days then switch to a low

maintenance dose.

2) I worry the most is his Testosterone, Serum is 28 ng/dL

Reference range is 0 - 10. That is 3 fold rises of reference

range. TSH is also high 3.266uIU/mL (ref range 0.550-7.100). We

saw Pediat Dr yesterday and ordered blood work on Liver function,

Hormone and retest the Testosterone. Waiting for result. Both of my

DAN dr can't explain why is so high, they thought the lab made the

mistake. I think could that be caused by the chelation.

What are the treatment to reduced Tersosterone? Any

suggestion/comments on this one? I know this can be serious.

*Some do Lupron but I don't know much about that or whether it's safe.

3) HHV-6, IgG Antibodies is high 1:320 ratio, That is 4 fold rises

in titer.

The book recommends antioxident. Which one is the best? Any

suggestion?

4) IgG - he is sensitive to almost different kinds of nuts, dairy,

gluten, grain and some fruit. Only food is not allergic to are

vegetable and meat.

He is taking Kirman Enzym-Complete DPP-IV and Vitamin C 500 mg

(Ascorbic acid, rose hips) every meal, MCT liquid 1 tsp every meal.

Anything else should be added?

In the Red Blood Cell Element from DDS:

5) Manganese is elevated - 0,039 ref range 0.007-0.030 But in

the Genova Metabolic Analysis Profile it indicated as deficient. It

indicates relative need for it is 2-10mg/d.

I remembered you mentioned that if using wrong protocol chelation,

the mineral level in the test is all messed up, it will not be

accurate. So there is no way I can find out the mineral level.

Should I supplement him with minerals anyway? How can I tell when

the mineral level back to normal? Will I be ever able to use the

mineral level in the test again?

In Genova Diagnostics - Metabolic Analysis Profile.

7) In Malabsorption Markers and Bacterial Dysbiosis

Markers indicated DHPPA is 1.9 ref range is <=1.6.

It indicates Amino Acid malabsorption. Niacin, B12,

Glutathione, Folic Acid and Glutathione inefficient.

He is taking Kirman Probiotic Gold twice a day. Pycnogenol

(pind bark extract) twice a day. B12 injection, Glutathione .5ml

twice a day. Any other suggestion?

*Glutathione causes problems for some, consider precursors.

8) Arabinose is 69.5 Ref range <=63.0

For this one, we are taking Nystatin 2times a day to treat the

yeast.

9)Cis-Aconitic Acid is very high - 180.2 ref range 3.5-66.4

Isocitric Acid is 103.6 ref range 5.8-81.2

Fumaric Acid 3.0 ref range <=2.2

In Metametrix Gastrointestinal Function Profile

10)Parasites Protozone present; taxonomy unavailable. Positive

DAN DR prescribe medication Alinia, 3 days on and 1 week off.

Would the medication be too strong for little kid?

Vitamin supplement he is currently taking:

Kirkman Nu-thera with 50mg P5P

Nordic Natural ProDHA

Glutathione .5ml twice a day

Kirkman Calcium Bio0Max

Kirkman Buffered Magnesium Glycinate

Kirman Pro-Bio Gold (thinking about alternate it with Culturelle and

Sacchromyces Boulardii) Good idea?

Kirkman Enzyme-Complete/DPP-IV

Thorn Trace Minerals

Complementary Prescriptions VitD3(5000IU) (is this too high)

PURE encapsulations Pycnogenol(Pine Bark Extract)

Complementary Prescriptions Epicor Junior(Dry yeast fermentate) for

immune system

MCT liquid

Sorry being writing so much, Any help is appreciated. Thank you in

advance for your help.

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> I want to optimize his health before the chelation again,

That is a classic mistake.

Just do something reasonable and get on with it quickly.

> the

> following is the vitamin supplement treatment he is getting now. I

> hope you can give me some suggestion on what else I need to do or if

> I miss anything else.

>

> My son started in BioMed treatment this year 08, and he was 3 1/2 yr

> old diagnosed as very high function Autism. We did Hair Toxic

> Element Exposure Profile,

which means nothing and is uninterpretable.

The useful test is the " hair elements " test.

> The Titanium is 2.1 (<2.0), Arsenic 0.15

> (<0.20), Chromium 0.64 (<0.80). The rest looks in normal range.

which means nothing.

> Our DAN DR recommended DMSA every other day

Then he is incompetently practicing medicine without a clue. Don't go back.

> 25mg capsules for 2

> months (Feb08-Apri08) with no mineral supplement. The only

> supplement my son took during chelation was Kirkman Nu-Thera liquid

> 1/2 tsp a day, Kirkman Glutathionne Lotion twice a day, Kirkman

> Immuno-Aid twice a day, Nordic Natural fish oil liquid 3-6-9 1/2 tsp

> a day. In the first week of Chelation, he had terrible diareah and

> bed wetting. We stopped till the sympton went away, then continued

> the chelation. My son made good improvement from chelation

> especially language, as well as some negative effects such as lots

> of hand stimming, like humming, high anxiety, shorter attention

> span, mood swing, might ask the same question again and again, talks

> to himself sometimes and repeats what he said quietly when

> responding other people. Most of time he is a happy boy, and he is

> learning to read now. No-one can tell he has ASD. So I am not sure

> whether he is high in mercury toxic.

If he didn't have enough heavy metals in him to be a problem chelation would

have had no

effect at all.

Since you chelated improperly there are still plenty of heavy metals in his

brain waiting to

be drawn out.

>But I want him to reach to his max potential.

Then you'll have to do the right things for him rather than the trendy things

that DAN!

doctors make money off of.

> Lately, we plan for HBOT in next few months

Don't.

> and we also drew a bunch

> of lab test in October 08 just want to make sure he is healthy,

> because we heard many autistic kids have health issue. We stop all

> the vitamin supplement for 2 weeks before the lab test to get a

> baseline.

Don't do that again.

If the supps help, stick with them.

> We did Organic Acid Test, Urinary Peptide, Comprehensive

> Stool Profile, IgG Food Allergy Panel, Red Blood Cell Element,

> Urinary Porphyrin Profile, Urinalysis Routine. We found some major

> health problems from lab results. I wonder if that is all caused by

> the wrong chelation protocol or he just got it all along.

Hard to know - I'm not going to be a jerk and just blame it all on DAN! style

chelation.

Really at this point you can't tell what was there all along, it may all have

been.

> Here are some questions I have for you. What other things I need to

> check before I can start the chelation again.

Nothing.

> If chelate again,

> will the mercury ever be removed from the brain?

If you do it properly, with ALA (alpha lipoic acid) on the 3-4 hour protocol.

Otherwise not.

> How soon I have to

> start chelate again before the permanent brain damage is done?

There is no short term time constraint. You might as well just get on with it.

> I have a dr appt with new DAN dr next month,

Why? To hurt your kid more? You have to take some responsibility for making

the right

decisions.

> I want to hear your

> suggestion/recommendation before the appt, so I can ask the DR right

> question and do the right lab test.

You don't need any more tests (though a DDI hair elements test might be

informative,

might not, but you already know there is a heavy metal problem since you used

chelators

and something happened).

> I saw 2 Dan DRs last 2 months,

> and they don't seem to have experience for my son's case.

So why keep seeing doc's until you find one who makes up stories and pretends he

does,

then hurts your kid some more?

Whatever you give the kid will work whether or not you saw a doctor. The

chemicals (in

nutritional supplements, or foods, or Rx drugs - they are all just chemicals)

don't know or

care whether you saw a doctor.

If you want to see one, see one who knows what they are doing. For chelation

this means

they prescribe it properly, which is ALA every 3-4 hours. You could tell us

where you are

and see if anyone knows a competent doctor nearby.

> The following are some my main concerns in the lab result:

>

> Urinalysis Routine from LabCorp:

>

> 1) His vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy is very low - 25.1 ng/ML Ref range 32 -

> 100

>

> My DAN Dr recommend Vit D supplement with 5000IU, 1cap/day.

> Would this be too high dose?

Probably not. It is nice and high. Less would also be fine. There is some

mentally ill stuff

going on with DAN! right now regarding vitamins A and D, you might be caught up

in that

fad.

> How long I should take this? I have

> my son taking half capsule, would that be adequate?

Yes.

> 2) I worry the most is his Testosterone, Serum is 28 ng/dL

> Reference range is 0 - 10. That is 3 fold rises of reference

> range. TSH is also high 3.266uIU/mL (ref range 0.550-7.100). We

> saw Pediat Dr yesterday and ordered blood work on Liver function,

> Hormone and retest the Testosterone. Waiting for result.

Let us know what the results are.

> Both of my

> DAN dr can't explain why is so high, they thought the lab made the

> mistake. I think could that be caused by the chelation.

Could be.

Could be other things.

>

> What are the treatment to reduced Tersosterone?

Short term? Lupron. This is the legitimate indication for Lupron, which is one

of the

recent DAN! fads though I think it is losing popularity.

> Any

> suggestion/comments on this one? I know this can be serious.

If the thyroid test continues to be above 1.5 or 2.0, see if your doctor wants

to prescribe a

trial of armour thyroid, 1.4 grain, titrate dosage up slowly and see what

happens.

There is much discussion of this kind of thing in the list arcives.

> 3) HHV-6, IgG Antibodies is high 1:320 ratio, That is 4 fold rises

> in titer.

This means nothing.

> The book recommends antioxident. Which one is the best? Any

> suggestion?

Details in the later sections of Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden

Toxicities.

www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

> 4) IgG - he is sensitive to almost different kinds of nuts, dairy,

> gluten, grain and some fruit. Only food is not allergic to are

> vegetable and meat.

Try him on the 'good' diet for a couple of weeks, introduce some suspect food

for a week

and see if it matters or not. If it does, stick to the nonreactive foods.

> He is taking Kirman Enzym-Complete DPP-IV and Vitamin C 500 mg

> (Ascorbic acid, rose hips) every meal, MCT liquid 1 tsp every meal.

> Anything else should be added?

Magnesium of some sort.

Vitamins E and A and some zinc daily.

> In the Red Blood Cell Element from DDS:

> 5) Manganese is elevated - 0,039 ref range 0.007-0.030

Yellow range is not significant.

> But in

> the Genova Metabolic Analysis Profile it indicated as deficient.

Their test results are accurate, their discussion and interpretation usually off

the wall.

Ignore it.

> It indicates relative need for it is 2-10mg/d.

>

> I remembered you mentioned that if using wrong protocol chelation,

> the mineral level in the

hair

> test is all messed up, it will not be

> accurate. So there is no way I can find out the mineral level.

RBC is accuate.

> Should I supplement him with minerals anyway? How can I tell when

> the mineral level back to normal? Will I be ever able to use the

> mineral level in the test again?

>

> In Genova Diagnostics - Metabolic Analysis Profile.

> 7) In Malabsorption Markers and Bacterial Dysbiosis

> Markers indicated DHPPA is 1.9 ref range is <=1.6.

> It indicates Amino Acid malabsorption. Niacin, B12,

> Glutathione, Folic Acid and Glutathione inefficient.

Ignore their interpretation.

>

> He is taking Kirman Probiotic Gold twice a day. Pycnogenol

> (pind bark extract) twice a day.

Fine.

>B12 injection,

Skip these unless they very clearly are helping.

> Glutathione .5ml

> twice a day.

Skip unless it clearly helps.

> Any other suggestion?

As above.

> 8) Arabinose is 69.5 Ref range <=63.0

Not likely to be significant. Their reference range is not a legitimate normal

range.

> For this one, we are taking Nystatin 2times a day to treat the

> yeast.

>

> 9)Cis-Aconitic Acid is very high - 180.2 ref range 3.5-66.4

>

> Isocitric Acid is 103.6 ref range 5.8-81.2

>

> Fumaric Acid 3.0 ref range <=2.2

Give him some sort of B complex (and the magnesium) if you want to do something

about

this. It may or may not help.

>

>

> In Metametrix Gastrointestinal Function Profile

> 10)Parasites Protozone present; taxonomy unavailable. Positive

> DAN DR prescribe medication Alinia, 3 days on and 1 week off.

> Would the medication be too strong for little kid?

I don';t know. The doc's usually are OK on knowing the Rx meds.

>

> Vitamin supplement he is currently taking:

> Kirkman Nu-thera with 50mg P5P

> Nordic Natural ProDHA

> Glutathione .5ml twice a day

> Kirkman Calcium Bio0Max

> Kirkman Buffered Magnesium Glycinate

with each meal.

> Kirman Pro-Bio Gold (thinking about alternate it with Culturelle and

> Sacchromyces Boulardii) Good idea?

> Kirkman Enzyme-Complete/DPP-IV

> Thorn Trace Minerals

Skip it.

Use 1000 mcg molybdenum and 100-200 mcg selenomethionine (or nothing). NO

copper, NO iron, NO manganese, NO 'selenium citrate' or selenite.

> Complementary Prescriptions VitD3(5000IU) (is this too high)

> PURE encapsulations Pycnogenol(Pine Bark Extract)

> Complementary Prescriptions Epicor Junior(Dry yeast fermentate) for

> immune system

> MCT liquid

This is all fine.

Getting on with proper chelation is far more important than fine tuning this.

> Sorry being writing so much, Any help is appreciated. Thank you in

> advance for your help.

>

>

Good luck.

Andy

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Thank you so much for your help, Andy. God Bless You.

By the way, my son's lab test result came back normal for Liver and

Kindney functions. Testosterone total level not significant. What

a relief..

My son had 14 cavities and just got the fillings done in the

hospital. That was another long story for that, and I am so happy it

was all over.

Now, I can't wait start the chelation. Still waiting for Doctor

Data correct my son's hair test result because they got messed up

and thought the test is for me. Trying to get the baseline.

Cross my finger..

>

> > I want to optimize his health before the chelation again,

>

> That is a classic mistake.

>

> Just do something reasonable and get on with it quickly.

>

> > the

> > following is the vitamin supplement treatment he is getting

now. I

> > hope you can give me some suggestion on what else I need to do

or if

> > I miss anything else.

> >

> > My son started in BioMed treatment this year 08, and he was 3

1/2 yr

> > old diagnosed as very high function Autism. We did Hair Toxic

> > Element Exposure Profile,

>

> which means nothing and is uninterpretable.

>

> The useful test is the " hair elements " test.

>

> > The Titanium is 2.1 (<2.0), Arsenic 0.15

> > (<0.20), Chromium 0.64 (<0.80). The rest looks in normal

range.

>

> which means nothing.

>

> > Our DAN DR recommended DMSA every other day

>

> Then he is incompetently practicing medicine without a clue.

Don't go back.

>

> > 25mg capsules for 2

> > months (Feb08-Apri08) with no mineral supplement. The only

> > supplement my son took during chelation was Kirkman Nu-Thera

liquid

> > 1/2 tsp a day, Kirkman Glutathionne Lotion twice a day, Kirkman

> > Immuno-Aid twice a day, Nordic Natural fish oil liquid 3-6-9 1/2

tsp

> > a day. In the first week of Chelation, he had terrible diareah

and

> > bed wetting. We stopped till the sympton went away, then

continued

> > the chelation. My son made good improvement from chelation

> > especially language, as well as some negative effects such as

lots

> > of hand stimming, like humming, high anxiety, shorter attention

> > span, mood swing, might ask the same question again and again,

talks

> > to himself sometimes and repeats what he said quietly when

> > responding other people. Most of time he is a happy boy, and he

is

> > learning to read now. No-one can tell he has ASD. So I am not

sure

> > whether he is high in mercury toxic.

>

> If he didn't have enough heavy metals in him to be a problem

chelation would have had no

> effect at all.

>

> Since you chelated improperly there are still plenty of heavy

metals in his brain waiting to

> be drawn out.

>

> >But I want him to reach to his max potential.

>

> Then you'll have to do the right things for him rather than the

trendy things that DAN!

> doctors make money off of.

>

> > Lately, we plan for HBOT in next few months

>

> Don't.

>

> > and we also drew a bunch

> > of lab test in October 08 just want to make sure he is healthy,

> > because we heard many autistic kids have health issue. We stop

all

> > the vitamin supplement for 2 weeks before the lab test to get a

> > baseline.

>

> Don't do that again.

>

> If the supps help, stick with them.

>

> > We did Organic Acid Test, Urinary Peptide, Comprehensive

> > Stool Profile, IgG Food Allergy Panel, Red Blood Cell Element,

> > Urinary Porphyrin Profile, Urinalysis Routine. We found some

major

> > health problems from lab results. I wonder if that is all

caused by

> > the wrong chelation protocol or he just got it all along.

>

> Hard to know - I'm not going to be a jerk and just blame it all on

DAN! style chelation.

> Really at this point you can't tell what was there all along, it

may all have been.

>

> > Here are some questions I have for you. What other things I

need to

> > check before I can start the chelation again.

>

> Nothing.

>

> > If chelate again,

> > will the mercury ever be removed from the brain?

>

> If you do it properly, with ALA (alpha lipoic acid) on the 3-4

hour protocol. Otherwise not.

>

> > How soon I have to

> > start chelate again before the permanent brain damage is done?

>

> There is no short term time constraint. You might as well just

get on with it.

>

> > I have a dr appt with new DAN dr next month,

>

> Why? To hurt your kid more? You have to take some responsibility

for making the right

> decisions.

>

> > I want to hear your

> > suggestion/recommendation before the appt, so I can ask the DR

right

> > question and do the right lab test.

>

> You don't need any more tests (though a DDI hair elements test

might be informative,

> might not, but you already know there is a heavy metal problem

since you used chelators

> and something happened).

>

> > I saw 2 Dan DRs last 2 months,

> > and they don't seem to have experience for my son's case.

>

> So why keep seeing doc's until you find one who makes up stories

and pretends he does,

> then hurts your kid some more?

>

> Whatever you give the kid will work whether or not you saw a

doctor. The chemicals (in

> nutritional supplements, or foods, or Rx drugs - they are all just

chemicals) don't know or

> care whether you saw a doctor.

>

> If you want to see one, see one who knows what they are doing.

For chelation this means

> they prescribe it properly, which is ALA every 3-4 hours. You

could tell us where you are

> and see if anyone knows a competent doctor nearby.

>

> > The following are some my main concerns in the lab result:

> >

> > Urinalysis Routine from LabCorp:

> >

> > 1) His vitamin D, 25-Hydroxy is very low - 25.1 ng/ML Ref range

32 -

> > 100

> >

> > My DAN Dr recommend Vit D supplement with 5000IU,

1cap/day.

> > Would this be too high dose?

>

> Probably not. It is nice and high. Less would also be fine.

There is some mentally ill stuff

> going on with DAN! right now regarding vitamins A and D, you might

be caught up in that

> fad.

>

> > How long I should take this? I have

> > my son taking half capsule, would that be adequate?

>

> Yes.

>

> > 2) I worry the most is his Testosterone, Serum is 28 ng/dL

> > Reference range is 0 - 10. That is 3 fold rises of reference

> > range. TSH is also high 3.266uIU/mL (ref range 0.550-7.100).

We

> > saw Pediat Dr yesterday and ordered blood work on Liver

function,

> > Hormone and retest the Testosterone. Waiting for result.

>

> Let us know what the results are.

>

> > Both of my

> > DAN dr can't explain why is so high, they thought the lab made

the

> > mistake. I think could that be caused by the chelation.

>

> Could be.

>

> Could be other things.

> >

> > What are the treatment to reduced Tersosterone?

>

> Short term? Lupron. This is the legitimate indication for

Lupron, which is one of the

> recent DAN! fads though I think it is losing popularity.

>

> > Any

> > suggestion/comments on this one? I know this can be serious.

>

> If the thyroid test continues to be above 1.5 or 2.0, see if your

doctor wants to prescribe a

> trial of armour thyroid, 1.4 grain, titrate dosage up slowly and

see what happens.

>

> There is much discussion of this kind of thing in the list arcives.

>

> > 3) HHV-6, IgG Antibodies is high 1:320 ratio, That is 4 fold

rises

> > in titer.

>

> This means nothing.

>

> > The book recommends antioxident. Which one is the best? Any

> > suggestion?

>

> Details in the later sections of Hair Test Interpretation: Finding

Hidden Toxicities.

>

> www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

>

>

> > 4) IgG - he is sensitive to almost different kinds of nuts,

dairy,

> > gluten, grain and some fruit. Only food is not allergic to are

> > vegetable and meat.

>

> Try him on the 'good' diet for a couple of weeks, introduce some

suspect food for a week

> and see if it matters or not. If it does, stick to the

nonreactive foods.

>

> > He is taking Kirman Enzym-Complete DPP-IV and Vitamin C 500 mg

> > (Ascorbic acid, rose hips) every meal, MCT liquid 1 tsp every

meal.

> > Anything else should be added?

>

> Magnesium of some sort.

>

> Vitamins E and A and some zinc daily.

>

> > In the Red Blood Cell Element from DDS:

> > 5) Manganese is elevated - 0,039 ref range 0.007-0.030

>

> Yellow range is not significant.

>

> > But in

> > the Genova Metabolic Analysis Profile it indicated as

deficient.

>

> Their test results are accurate, their discussion and

interpretation usually off the wall.

> Ignore it.

>

> > It indicates relative need for it is 2-10mg/d.

> >

> > I remembered you mentioned that if using wrong protocol

chelation,

> > the mineral level in the

>

> hair

>

> > test is all messed up, it will not be

> > accurate. So there is no way I can find out the mineral level.

>

> RBC is accuate.

>

> > Should I supplement him with minerals anyway? How can I tell

when

> > the mineral level back to normal? Will I be ever able to use

the

> > mineral level in the test again?

> >

> > In Genova Diagnostics - Metabolic Analysis Profile.

> > 7) In Malabsorption Markers and Bacterial Dysbiosis

> > Markers indicated DHPPA is 1.9 ref range is <=1.6.

> > It indicates Amino Acid malabsorption. Niacin,

B12,

> > Glutathione, Folic Acid and Glutathione inefficient.

>

> Ignore their interpretation.

> >

> > He is taking Kirman Probiotic Gold twice a day.

Pycnogenol

> > (pind bark extract) twice a day.

>

> Fine.

>

> >B12 injection,

>

> Skip these unless they very clearly are helping.

>

> > Glutathione .5ml

> > twice a day.

>

> Skip unless it clearly helps.

>

> > Any other suggestion?

>

> As above.

>

> > 8) Arabinose is 69.5 Ref range <=63.0

>

> Not likely to be significant. Their reference range is not a

legitimate normal range.

>

> > For this one, we are taking Nystatin 2times a day to treat the

> > yeast.

> >

> > 9)Cis-Aconitic Acid is very high - 180.2 ref range 3.5-66.4

> >

> > Isocitric Acid is 103.6 ref range 5.8-81.2

> >

> > Fumaric Acid 3.0 ref range <=2.2

>

> Give him some sort of B complex (and the magnesium) if you want to

do something about

> this. It may or may not help.

> >

> >

> > In Metametrix Gastrointestinal Function Profile

> > 10)Parasites Protozone present; taxonomy unavailable. Positive

> > DAN DR prescribe medication Alinia, 3 days on and 1 week

off.

> > Would the medication be too strong for little kid?

>

> I don';t know. The doc's usually are OK on knowing the Rx meds.

>

> >

> > Vitamin supplement he is currently taking:

> > Kirkman Nu-thera with 50mg P5P

> > Nordic Natural ProDHA

> > Glutathione .5ml twice a day

> > Kirkman Calcium Bio0Max

> > Kirkman Buffered Magnesium Glycinate

>

> with each meal.

>

> > Kirman Pro-Bio Gold (thinking about alternate it with Culturelle

and

> > Sacchromyces Boulardii) Good idea?

> > Kirkman Enzyme-Complete/DPP-IV

> > Thorn Trace Minerals

>

> Skip it.

>

> Use 1000 mcg molybdenum and 100-200 mcg selenomethionine (or

nothing). NO

> copper, NO iron, NO manganese, NO 'selenium citrate' or selenite.

>

> > Complementary Prescriptions VitD3(5000IU) (is this too high)

> > PURE encapsulations Pycnogenol(Pine Bark Extract)

> > Complementary Prescriptions Epicor Junior(Dry yeast fermentate)

for

> > immune system

> > MCT liquid

>

> This is all fine.

>

> Getting on with proper chelation is far more important than fine

tuning this.

>

> > Sorry being writing so much, Any help is appreciated. Thank you

in

> > advance for your help.

> >

> >

>

> Good luck.

>

> Andy

>