Re: was: OT: viral? Dana Now: Dana need help again

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> My son is doing well, seems to have gotten rid of infection, round

> went well. He's coming down with cold number two now. We had a few

> days of " no cold " . So he's back on ole/gse

Keep the vitamin C.

When using anti-virals, the viruses tend to cause " typical virus

symptoms " on the way out.

> My trouble is with me/dh and older child.

> We still are having trouble with the throat.

Most throat issues at my house were caused by yeast overgrowth.

> gone, but what is happening is that at night we are getting

> tongue/tonsil pain/ sore throats. I had gone back on OLE and put them

> on it too, and mine seemed almost gone, but last night it was sore

> again, and this morning my right tonsil hurts, red inflamed etc.

> So something is lingering...

Or you are pulling out a latent virus, which is causing " typical virus

symptoms " on the way out.

> Currently taking: gse/ole in the am, probiotic lunch, gse dinner,

> probiotic bedtime. Raw honey at night, elderberry syrup at night.

> Gargling with gse/water in the morning or whenever throat hurts or

> mouth feels thick.

> This has been going on since Thanksgiving. Do we need to cave in for

> antibiotics?

Depends. What happens if you lower the GSE [or remove it and switch

to biotin] and keep the OLE? Antibiotics are for bacteria, and OLE

helps with bacteria. Too much GSE can *cause* bacteria. So if you

adjust what you are doing, that might help.

Dana

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When I pull the gse I get yeast. If I pull the OLE the sore throat

gets worse. Let me try the biotin instead of gse.

But for me it..could be latent viruses yes. Since I seem to have

tonsil/throat issues every winter for years. Last year I got rid of

tonsillitis with iodine and I think that I have tonisllitis now, from

that sinus cold I had a few weeks ago. It's like it's just moving

around from one place to another.

Not for the dh though, he got that same viral cold we all got and

since then has not gotten rid of the sore throat that came with it.

His hurts in the morning and at night.

I am going to have him start gargling with salt water. (he's a bit

less compliant and not on gse)He's the lost cause project, very yeasty

and won't do anything for it.

Daughter has no yeast, but still has sore throat.

the odd ball thing about this germ is that we all get sore throats at

night, that include the tongue. Your tongue hurts and is very sore.

I gargled with salt water and it got rid of the pain for about 1/2

hour. Grrr...it's back...more gargling.

> > My son is doing well, seems to have gotten rid of infection, round

> > went well. He's coming down with cold number two now. We had a few

> > days of " no cold " . So he's back on ole/gse

>

>

> Keep the vitamin C.

>

> When using anti-virals, the viruses tend to cause " typical virus

> symptoms " on the way out.

>

>

> > My trouble is with me/dh and older child.

> > We still are having trouble with the throat.

>

>

> Most throat issues at my house were caused by yeast overgrowth.

>

>

> > gone, but what is happening is that at night we are getting

> > tongue/tonsil pain/ sore throats. I had gone back on OLE and put them

> > on it too, and mine seemed almost gone, but last night it was sore

> > again, and this morning my right tonsil hurts, red inflamed etc.

> > So something is lingering...

>

>

> Or you are pulling out a latent virus, which is causing " typical virus

> symptoms " on the way out.

>

>

> > Currently taking: gse/ole in the am, probiotic lunch, gse dinner,

> > probiotic bedtime. Raw honey at night, elderberry syrup at night.

> > Gargling with gse/water in the morning or whenever throat hurts or

> > mouth feels thick.

> > This has been going on since Thanksgiving. Do we need to cave in for

> > antibiotics?

>

>

> Depends. What happens if you lower the GSE [or remove it and switch

> to biotin] and keep the OLE? Antibiotics are for bacteria, and OLE

> helps with bacteria. Too much GSE can *cause* bacteria. So if you

> adjust what you are doing, that might help.

>

> Dana

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

My son is doing well, seems to have gotten rid of infection, round

went well. He's coming down with cold number two now. We had a few

days of " no cold " . So he's back on ole/gse

===>Jan, I meant to say the last time you brought this up and reported how

much OLE you're giving your son...that I didn't think it was high enough.

We use 500 mgs (1cap AM and PM) of 12% OLE per day and she has not missed one

day of school. If a cold does threaten we add in another OLE in the middle of

the day and in two days the symptoms are gone, but that is a lot more than what

I think you were giving.

For us, it doesn't produce yeast and I think we're not dealing with any viral

load at this time (but hate to say that for fear of jinxing ourselves).

You could try much more OLE for yourself. We use Nature's Way, 60 capsules for

about $4.75, very inexpensive.

Hope you're better.

My trouble is with me/dh and older child.

We still are having trouble with the throat. Most of the congestion is

gone, but what is happening is that at night we are getting

tongue/tonsil pain/ sore throats. I had gone back on OLE and put them

on it too, and mine seemed almost gone, but last night it was sore

again, and this morning my right tonsil hurts, red inflamed etc.

So something is lingering...not sure what we are missing aside from

antibiotics. Which I don't want to use. There are no fevers. I am off

adrenal support temporarily to do a test this coming week but have

been experiencing nausea at night. I am not sure if that is from the

adrenals or the throat issue.

Currently taking: gse/ole in the am, probiotic lunch, gse dinner,

probiotic bedtime. Raw honey at night, elderberry syrup at night.

Gargling with gse/water in the morning or whenever throat hurts or

mouth feels thick.

This has been going on since Thanksgiving. Do we need to cave in for

antibiotics?

> >>He improved a lot in the past

> > week, should we increase his dose?

>

>

> If you want. Or just keep it the same since it appears to be helping

him.

>

>

> > I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has missed the

> > last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept waiting for

> > it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

>

>

> It would depend on how he usually does on a round, and how badly he is

> feeling right now.

>

> Dana

>

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Ah yes..that was next..I got the Nature's way but I was only taking

one cap a day..going to add more. My son was taking 1/4 cap a day..not

enough I see.

I wonder does OLE come in a more concentrated form because there's no

way the little guy is going to eat that much of this powder. He

doesn't swallow them and balks at the bit of OLE he gets now. Drops

maybe? Anyway..my new friend this winter ....OLE

> > >>He improved a lot in the past

> > > week, should we increase his dose?

> >

> >

> > If you want. Or just keep it the same since it appears to be helping

> him.

> >

> >

> > > I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has missed the

> > > last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept

waiting for

> > > it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

> >

> >

> > It would depend on how he usually does on a round, and how badly

he is

> > feeling right now.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

Ah yes..that was next..I got the Nature's way but I was only taking

one cap a day..going to add more. My son was taking 1/4 cap a day..not

enough I see.

===>I think it comes as high as 20 something %, you could try getting the

liquid and putting it in natural peanut butter, but I agree it's pretty bad.

Have you tried teaching him to swallow using tic tacs put in something soft? I

think I remember him being pretty orally defensive, right?

I'm using it also, as well as a little more D, we're in the heighth of flu

season in Ohio (one school just closed due to flu) and I'm still at no colds for

the year.

I wonder does OLE come in a more concentrated form because there's no

way the little guy is going to eat that much of this powder. He

doesn't swallow them and balks at the bit of OLE he gets now. Drops

maybe? Anyway..my new friend this winter ....OLE

> > >>He improved a lot in the past

> > > week, should we increase his dose?

> >

> >

> > If you want. Or just keep it the same since it appears to be helping

> him.

> >

> >

> > > I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has missed the

> > > last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept

waiting for

> > > it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

> >

> >

> > It would depend on how he usually does on a round, and how badly

he is

> > feeling right now.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

>

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>

>

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craming in the D myself too. Everyone's on it in my house. No flu

here. I'd take this cold stuff any day over that.

He is very orally defensive. He can swallow but but he won't. I have

caught him swallowing gummi vitamins before. He refuses to swallow

even tiny pills. But I'll keep trying. I tried to get him to take

chewable probiotics, all he did was lick them a few times and tell me

now way.

Do you think he could use more than the 500IU of D in his CLO?

He's 50 pounds now.

> > > >>He improved a lot in the past

> > > > week, should we increase his dose?

> > >

> > >

> > > If you want. Or just keep it the same since it appears to be

helping

> > him.

> > >

> > >

> > > > I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has

missed the

> > > > last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept

> waiting for

> > > > it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

> > >

> > >

> > > It would depend on how he usually does on a round, and how badly

> he is

> > > feeling right now.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

I tried to get him to take chewable probiotics, all he did was lick them a few

times and tell me now way.

===>LOL

Do you think he could use more than the 500IU of D in his CLO?

He's 50 pounds now.

===>Yes, our 53 lber gets 1000 IU in the winter (we're in the NE) and 500 IU

in the summer. This from 2 tsps of GP clo, liquid, we can't do the capsules,

something in them that gives her excema.

> > > >>He improved a lot in the past

> > > > week, should we increase his dose?

> > >

> > >

> > > If you want. Or just keep it the same since it appears to be

helping

> > him.

> > >

> > >

> > > > I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has

missed the

> > > > last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept

> waiting for

> > > > it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

> > >

> > >

> > > It would depend on how he usually does on a round, and how badly

> he is

> > > feeling right now.

> > >

> > > Dana

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Ok, will add more D for him. He takes the clo well, so I can increase

that for the winter. We are in the tundra too. Just miles of missing

that huge ice storm!

> > > > >>He improved a lot in the past

> > > > > week, should we increase his dose?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > If you want. Or just keep it the same since it appears to be

> helping

> > > him.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I am supposed to do a round on my son this week. He has

> missed the

> > > > > last two because of this cold/now sinus infection, I kept

> > waiting for

> > > > > it to go away. Would you skip this week also?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It would depend on how he usually does on a round, and how badly

> > he is

> > > > feeling right now.

> > > >

> > > > Dana

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> When I pull the gse I get yeast. If I pull the OLE the sore throat

> gets worse. Let me try the biotin instead of gse.

> But for me it..could be latent viruses yes. Since I seem to have

> tonsil/throat issues every winter for years. Last year I got rid of

> tonsillitis with iodine and I think that I have tonisllitis now, from

> that sinus cold I had a few weeks ago. It's like it's just moving

> around from one place to another.

Both viruses and yeast did tend to migrate around on their way out, so

it might be that.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> He is very orally defensive. He can swallow but but he won't. I have

> caught him swallowing gummi vitamins before. He refuses to swallow

> even tiny pills. But I'll keep trying. I tried to get him to take

> chewable probiotics, all he did was lick them a few times and tell me

> now way.

Depending on your child's personality, you might have success with

what I did for my #3. I taught him how to swallow capsules, and then

I gave him the option. Either I mix the supplements into peanut butter

and honey, or he can swallow the capsules. For a looooooong time, he

chose the mixture. But after a while, he started asking me which ones

were the ones that tasted horrid. He would choose to take those as

capsules, and the rest as mixture. Then he moved to taking all of

them as capsules. He likes being in control, so this worked well for

both of us.

This was also my child who would refuse supplements if he knew they

made him feel bad, so we worked on a compromise with that also. He

helped me determine which ones were no longer needed.

Dana