Re: Research on Ayurveda and HIV

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Dear Dr. Sachin Naik,

Re: /message/11652

Your posting forces me to write on this issue. Please read the following

link.Traditional Indian medicine and homeopathy for HIV/AIDS: a review of the

literaturehttp://www.aidsrestherapy.com/content/5/1/25

Treating PLHIV with Ayurveda without their written  consent is Human

Rights violation.

It is a serious offence. The toxic effects of Ayurvedic medicine is difficult to

measure at Clinical level. HIV/AIDS education still not introduced by CCIM

(Central Council of Indian Medicine) at Ayurvedic Medical Colleges and even they

are not conducting such research as per my information.

If this department is doing something than I am interested to know the out come.

Involving AYUSH with State AIDS Control Societies is still pending under NACP.

 

I respect you that you are self motivated and rendering your services for the

cause. The combination of Herbs or Immune modulators you are giving to PLHIV

must be recommended by CCIM and WHO under the Public Health Bye Laws with

reference to HIV/AIDS.

In later stage when the PLHIV visit ART center or Community Care Center for

Hospice Care your treatment will not be accepted by Health Care providers.

An kind of clinical research needs permission from State as well as person who

is voluntarily taking your medicine.

Are you paying to PLHIV for conducting research on them? In lieu of volunteres

participtiong in you research what are the services you are providing to him

(free of cost) and how much money you are paying on regular basis to them.

The MoU signed between you and those 6000 PLHIV are must be approved and

monitored by Ethical Committee for conducting Research.

 

The medical report  and follow-up of PLHIV must be maintained by you and where

you are summiting it. Where is the observation report of Monitoring Body under

whom you are conducting it.

If  all the above documentations are maintained by you than I am interested to

know  about the funding agency and what are there modes of payment along with

summary of reports.

If these documents are not maintained than I want to know from NACO under the

MoHFW,  GoI what there officials are doing at different levels from last so

many years.

I know they are giving training to AYUSH doctors in

 Syndromic Approach treatment of STIs/RTIs.

In few TIs these practitioners are working as part time doctor in few states.

 

In this situation we are playing with life of Mankind.

Lets ponder and work again before its too late,

Best Wishes and Regards,

Avnish

Avnish Jolly,

#3008,Sector-20D,

Chandigarh 160020, India.

Cell: +91-9814213809

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Dear members of AIDS INDIA,

Re: /message/11652

Only a few months ago a similar trial was rejected by the ethical committee in

GMC, Amritsar (of which I was a part) and the arguments were the same as told by

Dr. Avnish.

This ofcourse is playing with the human lives and should be

discouraged, stopped immediately and advertised too so as to discourage others

in indulging such unlawful act.

These guys may also exploit the general public telling that we are doing a study

approved by NACO and thus trap the gullible.

Dr.Rakesh Bharti

--

Rakesh Bharti MD,AAHIVS,

BDC Research center,

27-D,Sant Avenue,The Mall,Amritsar.

Punjab,INDIA143001.

-91-183-2277822;91-183-2278522

E-MAIL: <rakesh.bharti1@...>

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Hello,

 

Re: /message/11663

Thank you so very much for your response. You can go to below

link.http://www.unaids.org/en/PolicyAndPractice/HIVTreatment/TraditAlternMedicin\

e/

If  unaids is saying this then please understand it.If you do not know our

ancient science called Ayurveda then dont make assumptions without studying it.

It will be great for people like you if us gives us ayurveda medicine in english

capsule.

With all due respect sir, there is a need for cost effective treatment.

And if you are saying there are no side effect of ART then i am sorry sir.

There is a role of ART for CD4 below 200 and also above 350 to 400. What we are

doing for seropositive patients to try to keep CD4 counts above 400 and 450?

 

Regards,

 

Dr.Sachin

Dr.Sachin Naik

e-mail: <sachin_naik81@...>

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Dear Dr. Sachin and Associates,

Re: /message/11663

Don't make it personal; being a student of Ayurveda since 1991, I am actively

rendering my services in this field with the best of my ability.

Through e_forum we are actively advocating issues in the Human

interest to render services to the mankind.

My argument is that you can't just claim that you are doing research with out

following any established research norms and laws.

According to Chark School of Medicine we relate AIDS with Agantuaj Rakat Oaj

Kashaya (External Blood Immune Disorder) where it is documented that such

ailment is not curable.

Hence people living with such disorder must be supported with Holistic

counselling/ Care/ support (Which includes Policy, Law, Role of State, Religion

etc.), symptomatic treatment and Ahar- (Diet Therapy) - Vihar (Behavior Therapy

which includes their Sexual and Reproductive Rights etc . This is also in the

light of (Kamsutra and Rig Veda) as advocated by Chark Sahita.

Therefore Ayurvedic Practitioner serving PLHIV are providing culturally

appropriate and cost effective treatment to support their Dincharya (Activity of

Daily Life) under Palliative Care.

However, when false claims are made in the name of Ayurveda, let me invite your

attention to a noted case in India's Supreme Court, which issued a decree and

also, the Kerala High Court to hear the case against Majeed (a person claim to

be an ayurvedic practioner and promoted a so called aurvedic medicine)

Therefore it is important that there must be some policy on the use of Ayurvedic

medicine in HIV treatment.

My submission is without a policy, documented evidence and the support of

support PLHIV its difficult to work and it may creates additional problems.

According to last Shalok of Bhagwat Gita “Those persons will win who are

governed by and practice Ethical Policies " .

Hope you will not take it personally,

Best Wishes and Regards,

Avnish

Avnish Jolly,

#3008,Sector-20D,

Chandigarh 160020, India.

Cell: +91-9814213809

e-mail: <avnishjolly@...>