Re: New edition of Bill Shaw's book available!

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy,

I have a question about some of the content that's found in the 2002

edition of Shaw's book that you mention below.

Sometimes you suggest taking lysine and argine together to stimulate

growth hormone, boost the immune system, heal the gut, etc.

However, in Shaw's book he talks about how the aldehyde group of

arabinose reacts with lysine, and how that combined molecule can form

cross-links to arginine to form pentosidine. The pentosidine can then

do all manner of nasty stuff to various body systems including

demyeliniation of the brain. [i think that same process is suspected

to help cause Alzheimer's.]

Is pentosidine formation indeed a possible harmful side effect of

taking arginine and lysine together? I realize that taking biotin and

B-6 (when possible) could help mediate this, but worry that we're

doing a very wrong thing in our recent addition of arginine + lysine

to our son's diet.

Many thanks in advance for any enlightenment you can offer there.

>

> BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments

for Autism and PDD

> out finally.

>

> Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me

will be seeing it in

> the next few days.

>

> Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

>

> www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

>

> I just got a shipment of it today, the web page isn't entirely up to

date yet. What you'll get

> is the 2008 edition.

>

> Andy

>

[Guest guest]

I would love to hear Andy's answer. I would note that arginine and

lysine are both present in eggs, meat, etc.

> >

> > BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments

> for Autism and PDD

> > out finally.

> >

> > Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me

> will be seeing it in

> > the next few days.

> >

> > Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

> >

> > www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> >

> > I just got a shipment of it today, the web page isn't entirely up

to

> date yet. What you'll get

> > is the 2008 edition.

> >

> > Andy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think this happens at a significant rate under physiologically relevant

conditions.

Andy

> > >

> > > BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments

> > for Autism and PDD

> > > out finally.

> > >

> > > Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me

> > will be seeing it in

> > > the next few days.

> > >

> > > Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

> > >

> > > www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > >

> > > I just got a shipment of it today, the web page isn't entirely up

> to

> > date yet. What you'll get

> > > is the 2008 edition.

> > >

> > > Andy

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Andy,

I am on the website noamalgam.com and trying to order 2 books.  If I am ordering

from that website with PayPal how cn I order 2 books at one time with one

shipping cost?  I can only get it to allow me to order one book at a time.

Thanks,

Kelley

From: andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...>

Subject: [ ] New edition of Bill Shaw's book available!

Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 3:55 AM

BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments for Autism

and PDD

out finally.

Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me will be

seeing it in

the next few days.

Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

www.noamalgam. com/biologicaltr eatments. html

I just got a shipment of it today, the web page isn't entirely up to date yet.

What you'll get

is the 2008 edition.

Andy

[Guest guest]

Sorry but why?

If arginine + lysine can presumably contribute to good processes

(increased growth hormones, etc - mentioned below) in the body in the

amounts suggested, then why couldn't they also contribute to bad

processes like pentosidine formation?

How can the pentosidine be measured? There should be a way of finding

out if you're right.

More immediately though, shouldn't we err on the side of caution here?

Goodness knows that arabinose is common in these kids. Also Shaw's

suggestion that brains affected by Alzheimer's and autism show similar

effects so the possibility of that being due to pentosidine seems

pretty plausible.

There are a lot of good arguments out there, but without some

studies/science to go on, it's hard to know which to believe in.

Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments

> > > for Autism and PDD

> > > > out finally.

> > > >

> > > > Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me

> > > will be seeing it in

> > > > the next few days.

> > > >

> > > > Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

> > > >

> > > > www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > > >

> > > > I just got a shipment of it today, the web page isn't entirely up

> > to

> > > date yet. What you'll get

> > > > is the 2008 edition.

> > > >

> > > > Andy

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > > >

> > > > > BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments

> > > > for Autism and PDD

> > > > > out finally.

> > > > >

> > > > > Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me

> > > > will be seeing it in

> > > > > the next few days.

> > > > >

> > > > > Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

> > > > >

> > > > > www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > > > >

> > > > > I just got a shipment of it today, the web page isn't entirely up

> > > to

> > > > date yet. What you'll get

> > > > > is the 2008 edition.

> > > > >

> > > > > Andy

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

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> From: andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...>

> Subject: [ ] New edition of Bill Shaw's book available!

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> BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments for Autism

and PDD

> out finally.

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> Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me will be

seeing it in

> the next few days.

>

> Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

>

> www.noamalgam. com/biologicaltr eatments. html

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[Guest guest]

Andy,

I still could not order 2 books.  I ordered them separately.  Could you please

combine shipping?

Thanks,

Kelley Stone

From: andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: New edition of Bill Shaw's book available!

Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 4:19 AM

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> BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments for Autism

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> out finally.

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> Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me will be

seeing it in

> the next few days.

>

> Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

>

> www.noamalgam. com/biologicaltr eatments. html

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[Guest guest]

Sorry, but this posting has ticked me off for months and deserves some coherent

followup which I think I'm finally calm enough to do now...

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> > > > > > BIll Shaw has a new 2008 edition of his book Biological Treatments

> > > > > for Autism and PDD

> > > > > > out finally.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Which means all those people who have had it on back-order with me

> > > > > will be seeing it in

> > > > > > the next few days.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Anyone interested in getting it can do so at

> > > > > >

> > > > > > www.noamalgam.com/biologicaltreatments.html

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I just got a shipment of it today, the web page isn't entirely up

> > > > to

> > > > > date yet. What you'll get

> > > > > > is the 2008 edition.

> > > > > >

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