Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Help Please! > > Hi all! > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation and > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've interpreted my > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books and > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a DAN Dr, > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal test > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members posts > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, but > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and stool > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done by DDI > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this correctly. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============================================= > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============================================================ > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > ------------------------------------- > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > STEP 1: 11 > > STEP 2: 6 > > STEP 3: 2 > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > mercury poisoning. > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a problem and > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in Colorado > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that accounts > for the high uranium levels. > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal issues? Im > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also posted > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review)under > IMWAug2008.jpg > > Thanks, > Karla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 no real help (not enough minutes and/or know-how, apologies) - but a quick idea, try posting at fdq group ( frequent dose chelations group)- - along with others - is on there often & is likely to comment on this - she interprets the adrenal stuff well. ....this is also a good place to browse archives & files too (along with this group ....wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > Hi all! > > > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation and > > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've interpreted my > > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books and > > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a DAN > Dr, > > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal test > > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members posts > > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, but > > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and > stool > > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done by > DDI > > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this > correctly. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > > element result ref range color > > ============================================= > > > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > > element result ref range color under/over 50% > > ============================================================ > > > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > > > STEP 1: 11 > > > > STEP 2: 6 > > > > STEP 3: 2 > > > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > > mercury poisoning. > > > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a problem > and > > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in Colorado > > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that > accounts > > for the high uranium levels. > > > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal issues? > Im > > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also > posted > > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review)under > > IMWAug2008.jpg > > > > Thanks, > > Karla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Thanks! I'll do that! > > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation and > > > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've interpreted my > > > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books and > > > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a DAN > > Dr, > > > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal test > > > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members posts > > > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, but > > > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and > > stool > > > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done by > > DDI > > > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this > > correctly. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > > > element result ref range color > > > ============================================= > > > > > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > > > > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > > > > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > > > > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > > > > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > > > > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > > > > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > > > > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > > > > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > > > > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > > > > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > > > > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > > > > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > > > > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > > > > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > > > > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > > > > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > > > > > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > > > element result ref range color under/over 50% > > > ============================================================ > > > > > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > > > > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > > > > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > > > > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > > > > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > > > > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > > > > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > > > > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > > > > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > > > > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > > > > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > > > > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > > > > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > > > > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > > > > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > > > > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > > > > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > > > > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > > > > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > > > > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > > > > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > > > > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > > > > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > > > > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > > > > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > > > > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > > > > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > > > > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > > > > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > > > > > STEP 1: 11 > > > > > > STEP 2: 6 > > > > > > STEP 3: 2 > > > > > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > > > mercury poisoning. > > > > > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a problem > > and > > > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in Colorado > > > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that > > accounts > > > for the high uranium levels. > > > > > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal issues? > > Im > > > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > > > > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also > > posted > > > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review) under > > > IMWAug2008.jpg > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Karla > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 > > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation and > > > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've interpreted my > > > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books and > > > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a DAN > > Dr, > > > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal test > > > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members posts > > > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, but > > > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and > > stool > > > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done by > > DDI > > > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this > > correctly. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > > > element result ref range color > > > ============================================= > > > > > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > > > > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > > > > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > > > > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > > > > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > > > > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > > > > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > > > > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > > > > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > > > > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > > > > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > > > > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > > > > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > > > > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > > > > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > > > > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > > > > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > > > > > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > > > element result ref range color under/over 50% > > > ============================================================ > > > > > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > > > > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > > > > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > > > > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > > > > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > > > > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > > > > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > > > > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > > > > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > > > > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > > > > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > > > > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > > > > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > > > > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > > > > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > > > > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > > > > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > > > > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > > > > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > > > > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > > > > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > > > > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > > > > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > > > > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > > > > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > > > > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > > > > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > > > > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > > > > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > > > > > STEP 1: 11 > > > > > > STEP 2: 6 > > > > > > STEP 3: 2 > > > > > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > > > mercury poisoning. > > > > > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a problem > > and > > > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in Colorado > > > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that > > accounts > > > for the high uranium levels. > > > > > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal issues? > > Im > > > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > > > > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also > > posted > > > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review) under > > > IMWAug2008.jpg > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Karla > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Kenny, I havent received an interpretation yet, but the results are posted in hair test folder section as IMWAug2008.jpg (just the first page) and the full pdf file is Wiersma,_Ian_(09-03-08).pdf, also posted in the same section. Thanks, Karla > > > > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation > and > > > > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've > interpreted my > > > > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books > and > > > > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a > DAN > > > Dr, > > > > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal > test > > > > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members > posts > > > > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, > but > > > > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and > > > stool > > > > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done > by > > > DDI > > > > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > > > > element result ref range color > > > > ============================================= > > > > > > > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > > > > > > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > > > > > > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > > > > > > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > > > > > > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > > > > > > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > > > > > > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > > > > > > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > > > > > > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > > > > > > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > > > > > > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > > > > > > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > > > > > > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > > > > > > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > > > > > > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > > > > > > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > > > > > > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > > > > > > > > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > > > > element result ref range color under/over 50% > > > > ============================================================ > > > > > > > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > > > > > > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > > > > > > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > > > > > > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > > > > > > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > > > > > > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > > > > > > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > > > > > > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > > > > > > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > > > > > > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > > > > > > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > > > > > > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > > > > > > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > > > > > > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > > > > > > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > > > > > > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > > > > > > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > > > > > > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > > > > > > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > > > > > > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > > > > > > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > > > > > > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > > > > > > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > > > > > > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > > > > > > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > > > > > > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > > > > > > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > > > > > > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > > > > > > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > > > > > > > STEP 1: 11 > > > > > > > > STEP 2: 6 > > > > > > > > STEP 3: 2 > > > > > > > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > > > > mercury poisoning. > > > > > > > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a > problem > > > and > > > > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in > Colorado > > > > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that > > > accounts > > > > for the high uranium levels. > > > > > > > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal > issues? > > > Im > > > > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > > > > > > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also > > > posted > > > > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review) > under > > > > IMWAug2008.jpg > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Karla > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 > > Hi all! > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation and > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've interpreted my > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books and > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a DAN Dr, > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal test > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members posts > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, but > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and stool > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done by DDI > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this correctly. > > -------------------------------------------------- > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============================================= > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============================================================ > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > ------------------------------------- > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > STEP 1: 11 > > STEP 2: 6 > > STEP 3: 2 > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > mercury poisoning. > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a problem and > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in Colorado > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that accounts > for the high uranium levels. > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal issues? Im > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also posted > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review)under > IMWAug2008.jpg > > Thanks, > Karla > Hi Karla You are right this test does not meet any counting rules ,however, there are 3 in the red and 1 quite close and it is also quite scattered so mercury toxicity may still be a problem. In my opinion it may be well worth chelating on Andy's protocol with ALA. If he is mercury toxic then this should help. If he is'nt mercury Toxic then this is a good anti-oxidant and in theory should'nt do any harm. Although obviously everyone is different. His Ca/P :1.26 suggests he is a fast metabolizer so therefore Digestive Enzymes may help. Some Adrenal stress is indicated backed up by his Na/mg: 10.66 (ref range)1-5 suggesting too much adrenaline being produced. his K/Ca: 0.6 (ref range) 0.03-0.35 indicates a possible Thyroid imbalance. I believe that Andy say's regarding Uranium it is not worth worrying about too much particularly as you have said that it is probably due to the area that you live in. If you are concerned about Arsenic which is'nt greatly elevated then ALA will help this also. If you do decide to chelate please read the files, you will find helpful information on Andy's protocol and also on which supplements should be helpful and you can always ask here for advice, also Dana (danasview) has a great deal of helpful information. I hope this helps. Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Could someone please tell me the name of Andy's book? Thanks From: k.ozbo <k.ozbo@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Hair Test for review Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 7:55 AM > > Hi all! > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation and > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've interpreted my > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books and > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a DAN Dr, > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal test > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members posts > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, but > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and stool > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done by DDI > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this correctly. > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -- > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============ ========= ========= ========= ====== > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= === > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > ------------ --------- --------- ------- > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > STEP 1: 11 > > STEP 2: 6 > > STEP 3: 2 > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > mercury poisoning. > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a problem and > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in Colorado > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that accounts > for the high uranium levels. > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal issues? Im > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also posted > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review)under > IMWAug2008.jpg > > Thanks, > Karla > Hi Karla You are right this test does not meet any counting rules ,however, there are 3 in the red and 1 quite close and it is also quite scattered so mercury toxicity may still be a problem. In my opinion it may be well worth chelating on Andy's protocol with ALA. If he is mercury toxic then this should help. If he is'nt mercury Toxic then this is a good anti-oxidant and in theory should'nt do any harm. Although obviously everyone is different. His Ca/P :1.26 suggests he is a fast metabolizer so therefore Digestive Enzymes may help. Some Adrenal stress is indicated backed up by his Na/mg: 10.66 (ref range)1-5 suggesting too much adrenaline being produced. his K/Ca: 0.6 (ref range) 0.03-0.35 indicates a possible Thyroid imbalance. I believe that Andy say's regarding Uranium it is not worth worrying about too much particularly as you have said that it is probably due to the area that you live in. If you are concerned about Arsenic which is'nt greatly elevated then ALA will help this also. If you do decide to chelate please read the files, you will find helpful information on Andy's protocol and also on which supplements should be helpful and you can always ask here for advice, also Dana (danasview) has a great deal of helpful information. I hope this helps. Kenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Kenny, Thanks for the response and confirmation. We're still waiting for the blood and stool test results that will give us a clear picture of his problems,so chelation will be a few months away, but we'll definately be using Andy's protocol when we start. Appreciate the help! Karla > > > > Hi all! > > > > I'm a fairly new member and am still learning about chelation and > > would really appreciate any help in making sure I've interpreted my > > sons hair elements test correctly. I have both of Andy's books and > > am still plugging my way through the archives. I am using a DAN > Dr, > > but have my reservations. He would like to do a random metal test > > using 100 mg of DMPS. From what I've read from other members posts > > that sounds like a challenge test to me. I've said no to that, but > > agreed to the OAT, allergy testing (IGg), full blood panel and > stool > > tests. I'm listing the hair test results for my 4yo son, done by > DDI > > and applied the counting rules and want to make doing this > correctly. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > > element result ref range color > > ============================================= > > > > Aluminum 6.1 < 8.0 green > > > > Antimony 0.036 < 0.066 green > > > > Arsenic 0.095 < 0.080 yellow > > > > Beryllium < 0.01 < 0.020 no line > > > > Bismuth 0.017 < 2.0 green > > > > Cadmium 0.024 < 0.15 green > > > > Lead 0.21 < 1.5 green > > > > Mercury 0.14 < 0.40 green > > > > Platinum < 0.003 < 0.005 no line > > > > Thallium < 0.001 < 0.010 no line > > > > Thorium < 0.001 < 0.005 green > > > > Uranium 0.066 < 0.060 yellow > > > > Nickel 0.08 < 0.40 green > > > > Silver 0.07 < 0.13 green > > > > Tin 0.13 < 0.30 green > > > > Titanium 0.67 < 1.0 green > > > > Total Toxic Representation green > > > > > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > > element result ref range color under/over 50% > > ============================================================ > > > > Calcium 246 125- 370 green (over) > > > > Magnesium 15 12- 30 green (under) > > > > Sodium 160 12- 90 yellow (over) > > > > Potassium 160 12- 40 yellow (almost red) (over) > > > > Copper 9.3 8.0- 16 green (under) > > > > Zinc 140 100- 190 green (over) > > > > Manganese 0.12 0.2- 0.55 yellow (under) > > > > Chromium 0.36 0.26- 0.50 white > > > > Vanadium 0.20 0.030- 0.10 yellow (over) > > > > Molybdenum 0.059 0.050- 0.13 green (under) > > > > Boron 23 0.60- 4.0 red (over) > > > > Iodine 1.2 0.25- 1.3 green (over) > > > > Lithium 0.017 0.007- 0.023 green (over) > > > > Phosphorus 196 160- 250 white > > > > Selenium 1.4 0.95- 1.7 green (over) > > > > Strontium .31 0.16- 1.0 white > > > > Sulfur 48000 45500- 53000 white > > > > Barium .20 0.16- .80 green (over) > > > > Cobalt 0.006 0.013- 0.035 red (under) > > > > Iron 15 8.0- 19 green (over) > > > > Germanium 0.035 0.045- 0.065 yellow (under) > > > > Rubidium 0.19 0.016- 0.18 green (almost yellow) (over) > > > > Zirconium 0.28 0.040- 1.0 white > > > > ELEMENTS RATIOS RANGE > > > > Ca/Mg 14.4 4- 30 > > > > Ca/P 1.26 0.8- 8 > > > > Na/K 1 0.5- 10 > > > > Zn/Cu 15.1 4- 20 > > > > Zn/Cd >999 > 800 > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > Here's what I got using the counting rules. > > > > STEP 1: 11 > > > > STEP 2: 6 > > > > STEP 3: 2 > > > > If I read this correctly then he doesn't meet the criteria for > > mercury poisoning. > > > > However should I view the arsenic and uranium levels as a problem > and > > would the levels of arsenic warrant chelating? We live in Colorado > > Springs, which has its radon issues, so Im wondering if that > accounts > > for the high uranium levels. > > > > Also, does the high potassium and sodium indicate adrenal issues? > Im > > not sure what to think about his Boron or Cobalt levels. > > > > Anyway, in the event Ive messed up the transcription, Ive also > posted > > the test results in the files section (hair tests for review) under > > IMWAug2008.jpg > > > > Thanks, > > Karla > > > Hi Karla > You are right this test does not meet any counting rules ,however, > there are 3 in the red and 1 quite close and it is also quite > scattered so mercury toxicity may still be a problem. > In my opinion it may be well worth chelating on Andy's protocol with > ALA. If he is mercury toxic then this should help. If he is'nt > mercury Toxic then this is a good anti-oxidant and in theory > should'nt do any harm. Although obviously everyone is different. > His Ca/P :1.26 suggests he is a fast metabolizer so therefore > Digestive Enzymes may help. > Some Adrenal stress is indicated backed up by his Na/mg: 10.66 (ref > range)1-5 suggesting too much adrenaline being produced. > his K/Ca: 0.6 (ref range) 0.03-0.35 indicates a possible Thyroid > imbalance. > I believe that Andy say's regarding Uranium it is not worth worrying > about too much particularly as you have said that it is probably due > to the area that you live in. > If you are concerned about Arsenic which is'nt greatly elevated then > ALA will help this also. > If you do decide to chelate please read the files, you will find > helpful information on Andy's protocol and also on which supplements > should be helpful and you can always ask here for advice, also Dana > (danasview) has a great deal of helpful information. > I hope this helps. > > Kenny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Andy has two books on the subject. You're probably referring to " Hair Test Interpreting " . He also wrote " Amalgam Illness " . S S Re: Hair Test for review Posted by: " K S " kamstone6@... kamstone6 Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:47 am (PDT) Could someone please tell me the name of Andy's book? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------ Motor Home You can take it with you! Click here for a luxurious new motor home and travel in style! http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgKDEVrhodMLj8wobSy1QCxfwvqsDqbiXWbbxRSSakQGcV\ 83m/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 bump > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > Thanks, > > Karla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 bump > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Karla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Karla, May I ask if there is a specific reason why you are using dmps? Thank u Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] Re: Hair Test for review bump > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Karla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 It's helpful to scan it in with the colors. The counting rules refer to color ranges, green, red, etc.. TJ ________________________________ From: wiersmak <wiersmak@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 9:44:38 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Hair Test for review  bump > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Karla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Here is some information about the counting rules: http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html ________________________________ From: wiersmak <wiersmak@...> Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 9:44:38 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Hair Test for review  bump > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Karla > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 He was very high in arsenic (.28) when we started chelating. That has come down considerably. Before we started, arsenic was high and aluminum and mercury were not showing up at all. Karla > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Karla > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 oops. will re-scan in color. Am familiar with the counting rules, just wanted to get anothers take. Karla > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Karla > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Maybe because u r not using dmsa yet? Plan to use it? Does he tolerate it? Isa Enviado desde mi oficina móvil BlackBerry® de Telcel [ ] Re: Hair Test for review He was very high in arsenic (.28) when we started chelating. That has come down considerably. Before we started, arsenic was high and aluminum and mercury were not showing up at all. Karla > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Karla > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 May switch to DMSA. The aresenic is down and thanks to ALA it looks like the aluminum and mercury are starting to come out. My biggest concerns right now are adrenals, liver support and oxidative stress. Unfortunately Vit C and milk thistle is not doable because of oxalates. We had him on 1000 mg of Vit C and that triggered a massive dump that lasted almost a month. We wont be going above 250 mg anytime soon. Karla > > > > > > > > If anyone gets a chance, could you please review my sons hair test. This test is after 35 rounds of chelation (DMPS/ALA). Its posted in the Hair Tests Folder, under Wiersma Hair Tests. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Karla > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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