OT(?): cavities and x-rays

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I hope this is not too off topic.

I just found out my 7.5 year old ASD, high mercury+lead+arsenic son

has 3 cavities, 2 of which on permanent teeth (1 is huge!). The

dentist has suggested x-ray to find out if there are anymore cavities

in between teeth. I don't know if I should allow her to do it. She

has also mentioned that my son may need general anesthesia (sp?) for

his dental work. Please advise on what other options I have and what

filling I should get for my son.

Many tks for any help and advice,

[Guest guest]

First, you want composite fillings, no metal. Ask for an MSDS sheet to

see if the composite contains aluminum or fluoride. You'd want one

without those. The all contain bisphenol A, so not much way around that.

x rays, are they the newer low dose x rays? If a lead shield is used

to protect the neck/thyroid..and I would also question further..to see

if this is really necessary. Often times it's not.

I can't help with the anesthesia as far as what's the best or not best

to get...haven't had to cross that road...Others?

Do you think he would need to be sedated to allow the work to be done?

Can he sit still long enough, or he will he move about, or get upset?

All things to consider.

Also, look at Weston Price's website on remineralizing teeth and

nutrition. high vitamin cod liver oil and other nutrients can stop the

progression of osteoporosis he has going on in his teeth. cavities

means he is deficient in something. It can be vitamin D, calcium, K or

all three. We have been able to harden my kids teeth following his

recommendations. So in the least you can prevent any more cavities.

>

> Hi,

>

> I hope this is not too off topic.

>

> I just found out my 7.5 year old ASD, high mercury+lead+arsenic son

> has 3 cavities, 2 of which on permanent teeth (1 is huge!). The

> dentist has suggested x-ray to find out if there are anymore cavities

> in between teeth. I don't know if I should allow her to do it. She

> has also mentioned that my son may need general anesthesia (sp?) for

> his dental work. Please advise on what other options I have and what

> filling I should get for my son.

>

> Many tks for any help and advice,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I also second Weston Price's website. And also a few threads on

mothering.com like this one (I'm linking to the Cliff Notes version).

http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=537933

The " activator X " that's the key is vitamin K2. It's found mostly abundant

in natto (fermented soy beans).

Vitamin C is also important, as well as minerals you obtain from making your

own bone broth (you can search on WAP site on how to make it). Or you could

probably take minerals in supplement forms, but I read somewhere that teeth

re-mineralize from the outside, so bone broth is probably better. Vitamin K2

is key to absorbing minerals. Vitamins A and D are also important as well in

absorbing calcium. The already-mentioned high vitamin cold liver oil

contains the proper ratio (Green Pasture brand).

You could look for a local WAP chapter and buy grass-fed meats and raw milk,

creams, cheeses, and butters.

If some of the cavities are small enough you can also apply fluoride a few

times a day.

Get xylitol gums and/or mints. You can also buy xylitol in bulk to add to

foods to sweeten, but make sure to start out slow as it'll have a laxative

effect.

Kate

[Guest guest]

,

Please let me know what info you might find to help you decide what

is best when it comes to fillings or any dental work for you child.

Our 10 yr. old has 6 cavaties all in his baby teeth. The dentist

recommends for us to have 2 of them pulled because the adult teeth

are coming through.

I don't know what to do.......do we add more chemicals to his body by

allowing him to go under for this? Do we allow him to get composite

fillings? Will these type of fillings make it difficult for us to

try detox again? So many questions and so little time!

I am going to check out Weston Price's website on remineralizing

teeth. Hope this gives me some direction.

>

> Hi,

>

> I hope this is not too off topic.

>

> I just found out my 7.5 year old ASD, high mercury+lead+arsenic

son

> has 3 cavities, 2 of which on permanent teeth (1 is huge!). The

> dentist has suggested x-ray to find out if there are anymore

cavities

> in between teeth. I don't know if I should allow her to do it. She

> has also mentioned that my son may need general anesthesia (sp?) for

> his dental work. Please advise on what other options I have and

what

> filling I should get for my son.

>

> Many tks for any help and advice,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I forgot a few links.

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/price16.html

You can read his whole book online here:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html.

Also, toothpastes that contain a lot of glycerin (some say more than 55%,

but I haven't really found a magic number) coat the teeth and make

remineralization harder. A lot of people use tooth soap (toothsoap.com) and

tooth powders (there are many out there, but we started using 's

Tooth Powder, and my 4yo likes it).

If you're comfortable with topical fluoride, I would get a fluoride mouth

rinse (I use Tom's of Maine, and they said their products don't contain more

than 50% glycerin) and brush his teeth with it after you brush with tooth

soap, powder, etc. You can wipe off the mouth with a wash cloth so he

doesn't ingest any.

HTH!

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Laurie <lauriejenki@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Please let me know what info you might find to help you decide what

> is best when it comes to fillings or any dental work for you child.

> Our 10 yr. old has 6 cavaties all in his baby teeth. The dentist

> recommends for us to have 2 of them pulled because the adult teeth

> are coming through.

> I don't know what to do.......do we add more chemicals to his body by

> allowing him to go under for this? Do we allow him to get composite

> fillings? Will these type of fillings make it difficult for us to

> try detox again? So many questions and so little time!

> I am going to check out Weston Price's website on remineralizing

> teeth. Hope this gives me some direction.

>

> --

>

[Guest guest]

I question this claim made by the toothsoap people about glycerin.

The company who sells it says that you can tell glycerin coats the

teeth because you have to rub it a few times when it gets on your sink

to get it off!

Anyway, if glycerin coats the teeth and prevents the teeth from

replacing lost minerals, then presumably the barrier works in both

directions and it also helps reduce the amount of mineral loss to the

teeth. When I asked at toothsoap they didn't have an answer to that!

This is one of the problems, imho, about just accepting the claims

that people make.

Having said that, my experience is that toothsoap cleans the teeth

just fine (even if the glycerin worry looks manufactured), but there

are other alternatives that work well too, like tooth powders, and

some toothpastes.

> Also, toothpastes that contain a lot of glycerin (some say more than

55%,

> but I haven't really found a magic number) coat the teeth and make

> remineralization harder. A lot of people use tooth soap

(toothsoap.com) and

> tooth powders (there are many out there, but we started using

's

> Tooth Powder, and my 4yo likes it).

>

[Guest guest]

This group is a good place to ask at...

dental-chelation/

wishing you the best, elizabeth

>

> Hi,

>

> I hope this is not too off topic.

>

> I just found out my 7.5 year old ASD, high mercury+lead+arsenic son

> has 3 cavities, 2 of which on permanent teeth (1 is huge!). The

> dentist has suggested x-ray to find out if there are anymore cavities

> in between teeth. I don't know if I should allow her to do it. She

> has also mentioned that my son may need general anesthesia (sp?) for

> his dental work. Please advise on what other options I have and what

> filling I should get for my son.

>

> Many tks for any help and advice,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think the glycerin makes some sense in I know my teeth feel way

different when cleaned with toothpowder not toothpaste. That slimy

feeling is not there without the glycerin.

I know that the glycerin interferes with a product like Oravive which

is a topical application of minerals to build enamel. Those minerals

cannot work if the tooth is coated in glycerin when you apply the

oravive. Now I can't say about remineralization from the internal

aspect of nutrition and whether or not glycerin affects that. Just

that my teeth do better without the glycerin and we switched because

we are using Oravive along with Weston Prices suggestions to

build/maintain enamel. And it's working.

My son still uses Tom's of maine and that has glycerin, but he takes

high vitamin CLO, Calcium, D and K, eats his organic eggs and Imported

butter and his teeth have hardened. Who knows....

But if something is sticking to the sink...chances are it's sticking

to your teeth. Which probably means your eating it even if it's not

hurting your teeth. But if one had soft teeth it cant hurt to try

avoiding the glycerin, using the other means and see how it goes.

>

> I question this claim made by the toothsoap people about glycerin.

> The company who sells it says that you can tell glycerin coats the

> teeth because you have to rub it a few times when it gets on your sink

> to get it off!

>

> Anyway, if glycerin coats the teeth and prevents the teeth from

> replacing lost minerals, then presumably the barrier works in both

> directions and it also helps reduce the amount of mineral loss to the

> teeth. When I asked at toothsoap they didn't have an answer to that!

> This is one of the problems, imho, about just accepting the claims

> that people make.

>

> Having said that, my experience is that toothsoap cleans the teeth

> just fine (even if the glycerin worry looks manufactured), but there

> are other alternatives that work well too, like tooth powders, and

> some toothpastes.

>

>

> > Also, toothpastes that contain a lot of glycerin (some say more than

> 55%,

> > but I haven't really found a magic number) coat the teeth and make

> > remineralization harder. A lot of people use tooth soap

> (toothsoap.com) and

> > tooth powders (there are many out there, but we started using

> 's

> > Tooth Powder, and my 4yo likes it).

> >

>

[Guest guest]

For those who can afford it, find a holistic dentist and ask them to

use Holistore for fillings or Diamond Lite.

the Material Safety Data Sheets for Holistore are here:

http://www.denmat.com/restoratives/geristore/msds/

As for Laurie, pull the baby teeth as they are almost ready to fall

out. I would not bother filling them if they are going to be lost

soon. Cavities often progress slowly, so it might not be necessary to

fill them at all, if those teeth will be lost in the next year or so.

And then look at nutrition to prevent more...(Weston Price)

Composite fillings will not make it difficult to chelate. If that were

the case I'd be in the morgue. I had 14 teeth with amalgam that now

all contain composites. I had a biological dentist test me to be sure

I was compatible with the material..but you can chelate with

composite.. yes, they are chemicals which are always best avoided when

possible. Not always possible.

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I hope this is not too off topic.

> >

> > I just found out my 7.5 year old ASD, high mercury+lead+arsenic

> son

> > has 3 cavities, 2 of which on permanent teeth (1 is huge!). The

> > dentist has suggested x-ray to find out if there are anymore

> cavities

> > in between teeth. I don't know if I should allow her to do it. She

> > has also mentioned that my son may need general anesthesia (sp?) for

> > his dental work. Please advise on what other options I have and

> what

> > filling I should get for my son.

> >

> > Many tks for any help and advice,

> >

> >

>