VRP doesn't know about DMSA? // Re: ALA - how much must one drink?

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> Lets put is simply......

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> I know what research Andy's protocol is based on.

Really?

I'm taking some guesses what you might mean.

Are you using the word " research " rather loosely here, to mean

the informal kind of following-of-results-on-this-list sort of thing?

Or do you actually know the studies Andy read?

> What research are these " other " protocols based on?

If I tell you, you're going to tell me why that research is wrong

and doesn't count.

> Because every doctor I have asked about " other " protocols, shrugs

their

> shoulders and says something like " that's just the way I do it " .

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> In other words they've based their protocol on " why don't we try

> this.... and see what happens..... "

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> If you know of doctors who have gone to greater lengths to

understand

> chelation, please let me know who they are.

First off, I didn't say " great lengths " -- the bar was set at

" knows very little " . was saying something about VRP

marketing folks knowing " very little " about their product DMSA.

Starting from there, and broadening this to apply to anyone who

doesn't think 4-hour-dosing it the best knows " very little " .

So, the standard here is not doctors who " have gone to great

lengths " -- it would be doctors who have gone to ANY lengths

past " very little " . Moderate knowledge is more than " very little " ,

for example.

Secondly, here are a couple of examples of organizations that

have " gone to great lenghts " -- perhaps now as great as you'd

like, but certainly not in the ballpark of shoulder shrugging.

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http://www.acamnet.org/site/c.ltJWJ4MPIwE/b.2073031/k.ADFD/Faqs.htm

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legislative policy. In order to meet everyone's needs, these

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educational programs, articles, books, open forums, etc.

http://www.autismwebsite.com/aRI/vaccine/mercurydetox.htm

In response to this situation, the Autism Research Institute (ARI)

convened a Consensus Conference on the Detoxification of Autistic

Children in Dallas, Texas, February 9th through 11th, 2001. The

attendees were 25 carefully selected physicians and scientists

knowledgeable about mercury and mercury detoxification. The 15

physicians present included 7 who were parents of autistic children

and who had detoxified their own children with excellent results. The

physician attendees present had treated well over 3,000 patients for

heavy metal poisoning, about 1,500 of them being autistic children.

The chemists, toxicologists, and other scientists present had a

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These examples were relatively easy to find. There are lots of

others out

there --- people with MANY YEARS of experience and thought -- people

who are considered experts -- people who have given thoughtful

consideration to chelation methods for years and years and years.

Now, I've answered your question, and I'm guessing you (and

others) will want to beat me over the head for doing so.

Stop. Think. I didn't say these people were RIGHT. I didn't

recommend that anyone USE their methods.

On the other hand, " anyone who knows anything knows xyz " may

be true in some cases, but it is not a convincing line of

reasoning (since it doesn't address whatever issues there may be).

In addition, it gives the impression IN THIS CASE ENTIRELY FALSE

that there is some sort of general agreement on some standard

of " basic knowledge " that " anyone " would agree to. This is so

far from the case that I wouldn't know where to even begin....

Moria