Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 > > My lithium is from lifeline and does not say orate. I hear this is > what Andy wants us to use. It just says mineral supplement with > Actisol. Can I assume that it is Orate, if it is not Rx? > I have no answer for what you asked. You can buy lithium ornate from Vitamin Research Products. If I recall correctly it is in MUCH MUCH lower doses than what an Rx lithium would have. http://www.vrp.com/SearchResults.aspx? page=LIST & free_text|1224700812968=lithium good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 > > My lithium is from lifeline and does not say orate. I hear this is > what Andy wants us to use. It just says mineral supplement with > Actisol. Can I assume that it is Orate, if it is not Rx? > It doesn't have to be orotate, it can be any form. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 It says 500 mcg On Oct 22, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Ross wrote: > > > >> > >> My lithium is from lifeline and does not say orate. I hear this is > >> what Andy wants us to use. It just says mineral supplement with > >> Actisol. Can I assume that it is Orate, if it is not Rx? > >> > >It doesn't have to be orotate, it can be any form. > > > >Andy > > Lithium carbonate (Li2CO3) is the prescription form of lithium, sold > as brand name Eskalith, given by most doctors and psychiatrists in a > diagnosis of bipolar disorder. The usual dosage of Eskalith is 900mg > to 1200mg per day. This works out to between 168mg and 225mg of > ELEMENTAL lithium per day. At this level, there is concern for > toxicity and blood levels are usually monitored by the prescribing > physician on an ongoing basis. > > Lithium orotate (C5H3LiN2O4) is usually sold in 120mg tablets, which > contain about 5mg elemental lithium each, i.e. much less when you > take one a day. > > I can't find any information for a Lifeline maker of neutraceuticals > so I can't tell you what their form of lithium is. But if the > contents label indicates only " lithium " , it's probably safe to assume > that the weight is for elemental lithium. How many mg do they say is > in the formulation? > > > > -- > Ralph Nader on the need for moral courage: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Is it a prescription? We have a prescription for the cream. I assume it is quite different. Levels nonexistant on hair test also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Hi , Thanks for the reply on my post last week about my hair test. yes,I looked at your daughters lithium and it's as low as mine. I started on lithium last week and I am not sure if I feel an improvement yet. But I am just beginning a new hormone supplememntaion of hydrocortisone and armour thyroid. Two hormones, thyroid and cortisone that are virtually nonexsistent in my body. I believe the mercury killed my Pitiutary gland. I now have to start supplementing the rest of the sex hormones. Along the way the lithium was knocked off. But I have to be careful because I think I read that the lithium effects thyroid hormone..reduces it and I do not need that. Once I get this figured out I can that have a better footing to help my kids......I am glad that your daughter seems to be doing better. Keep researching. As Sir Wnston Churchill said " Never, Ever give up " Take care, > > I am up to 6 drops on the lithium chloride. I love this stuff. I see > it helping a lot. Her lithium levels were non-existent on hair test. I > can't believe my dd is getting more " normal " . It says on the bottle to > give 10 drops. Can I go above that, or should I stop there? I feel > like giving the whole bottle! LOL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 You read that the lithium affects the thyroid? I may sound a little dumb, but does the pituartary gland deal with the sex hormones? On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:51 PM, c.horton28 wrote: > Hi , > Thanks for the reply on my post last week about my hair test. yes,I > looked at your daughters lithium and it's as low as mine. I started on > lithium last week and I am not sure if I feel an improvement yet. > But I > am just beginning a new hormone supplememntaion of hydrocortisone and > armour thyroid. Two hormones, thyroid and cortisone that are virtually > nonexsistent in my body. I believe the mercury killed my Pitiutary > gland. I now have to start supplementing the rest of the sex hormones. > Along the way the lithium was knocked off. But I have to be careful > because I think I read that the lithium effects thyroid > hormone..reduces it and I do not need that. Once I get this figured > out > I can that have a better footing to help my kids......I am glad that > your daughter seems to be doing better. Keep researching. > As Sir Wnston Churchill said " Never, Ever give up " > Take care, > > > > > > > I am up to 6 drops on the lithium chloride. I love this stuff. I see > > it helping a lot. Her lithium levels were non-existent on hair > test. I > > can't believe my dd is getting more " normal " . It says on the > bottle to > > give 10 drops. Can I go above that, or should I stop there? I feel > > like giving the whole bottle! LOL > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 You read that the lithium affects the thyroid? I may sound a little dumb, but does the pituartary gland deal with the sex hormones? On Nov 1, 2008, at 8:51 PM, c.horton28 wrote: > Hi , > Thanks for the reply on my post last week about my hair test. yes,I > looked at your daughters lithium and it's as low as mine. I started on > lithium last week and I am not sure if I feel an improvement yet. > But I > am just beginning a new hormone supplememntaion of hydrocortisone and > armour thyroid. Two hormones, thyroid and cortisone that are virtually > nonexsistent in my body. I believe the mercury killed my Pitiutary > gland. I now have to start supplementing the rest of the sex hormones. > Along the way the lithium was knocked off. But I have to be careful > because I think I read that the lithium effects thyroid > hormone..reduces it and I do not need that. Once I get this figured > out > I can that have a better footing to help my kids......I am glad that > your daughter seems to be doing better. Keep researching. > As Sir Wnston Churchill said " Never, Ever give up " > Take care, > > > > > > > I am up to 6 drops on the lithium chloride. I love this stuff. I see > > it helping a lot. Her lithium levels were non-existent on hair > test. I > > can't believe my dd is getting more " normal " . It says on the > bottle to > > give 10 drops. Can I go above that, or should I stop there? I feel > > like giving the whole bottle! LOL > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 No. It is a supplement that I ordered on line. It is called Lithium Chloride. On Nov 1, 2008, at 7:28 PM, Gene and Aggie Birocco wrote: > Is it a prescription? We have a prescription for the cream. I > assume it is quite different. Levels nonexistant on hair test also. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Hi , I meant to reply to your post about the hair test but didn't have time. It looks a lot like mine and I also take Armour & HC. My lithium is even lower than yours so I think I will try the supplement also (orotate from VRP, the one that Andy & others have recommended). I also wanted to say we have similar profiles with age & kids ages/issues so if you want to write privately, feel free! , that's wonderful news about your daughter's progress. I can't comment on dosage however. Have you searched the archives for Andy's comments? Keep us posted! > > Hi , > Thanks for the reply on my post last week about my hair test. yes,I > looked at your daughters lithium and it's as low as mine. I started on > lithium last week and I am not sure if I feel an improvement yet. But I > am just beginning a new hormone supplememntaion of hydrocortisone and > armour thyroid. Two hormones, thyroid and cortisone that are virtually > nonexsistent in my body. I believe the mercury killed my Pitiutary > gland. I now have to start supplementing the rest of the sex hormones. > Along the way the lithium was knocked off. But I have to be careful > because I think I read that the lithium effects thyroid > hormone..reduces it and I do not need that. Once I get this figured out > I can that have a better footing to help my kids......I am glad that > your daughter seems to be doing better. Keep researching. > As Sir Wnston Churchill said " Never, Ever give up " > Take care, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Most supp dosing instructions are based o a 150 lb adult, don't know about that one in particular. S S Lithium Posted by: " Arias " thinkingheads@... denise_arias Sat Nov 1, 2008 4:11 pm (PDT) I am up to 6 drops on the lithium chloride. I love this stuff. I see it helping a lot. Her lithium levels were non-existent on hair test. I can't believe my dd is getting more " normal " . It says on the bottle to give 10 drops. Can I go above that, or should I stop there? I feel like giving the whole bottle! LOL ------------------------------------------------------------ Hair Replacement Proven Hair Replacement Options. Click here. http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgLOutWxQpLXQc8Am5ENW6pO9i3Qh5KqcHJvLzLKnyJYtr\ MYI/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 lithium can affect thyroid function yes, but as I understood it, it would be in higher doses or in prescription lithium. What most use is supplemental doses no more than what you are supposed to get in drinking water. Just that some parts of the country have less in the water than others. the pituitary is responsible for all the hormones yes. It does not make the sex hormones but it regulates the production, i guess that's the easiest way to explain it. I too have messed up endocrine system from mercury. On armour now, had been on hydrocortisone and think I need to go back on it. Progesterone as well. Going to do some more testing. It's a systemic thing with hormones and mercury, the receptors blocked up, the glands poisoned, the pituitary not working.... > > > Hi , > > Thanks for the reply on my post last week about my hair test. yes,I > > looked at your daughters lithium and it's as low as mine. I started on > > lithium last week and I am not sure if I feel an improvement yet. > > But I > > am just beginning a new hormone supplememntaion of hydrocortisone and > > armour thyroid. Two hormones, thyroid and cortisone that are virtually > > nonexsistent in my body. I believe the mercury killed my Pitiutary > > gland. I now have to start supplementing the rest of the sex hormones. > > Along the way the lithium was knocked off. But I have to be careful > > because I think I read that the lithium effects thyroid > > hormone..reduces it and I do not need that. Once I get this figured > > out > > I can that have a better footing to help my kids......I am glad that > > your daughter seems to be doing better. Keep researching. > > As Sir Wnston Churchill said " Never, Ever give up " > > Take care, > > > > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 > > lithium can affect thyroid function yes, but as I understood it, it > would be in higher doses or in prescription lithium. Correct. Rx levels of Li dosing may (or may not) affect thyroid function, nutritional supplement amounts are not going to. >What most use is > supplemental doses no more than what you are supposed to get in > drinking water. Just that some parts of the country have less in the > water than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Dear and , already confirmed what I was going to post after doing some research. I guess the amounts of Lithium we are taking or giving are just fine and will not have an effect on the thyroid. I am happy to hear this, I will start as soon as possible. , I will email soon, I am trying to find some time, everyone in my house has the flu. I also wanted to say that I love this man, Andy Cutler. His postive attitude and unselfishness when give suggestions is admirable. We are so lucky to have a kind man with so much knowlegde able to take time out of his life to help. If you are reading... Thank you Andy. Andy > > > > lithium can affect thyroid function yes, but as I understood it, it > > would be in higher doses or in prescription lithium. > > Correct. Rx levels of Li dosing may (or may not) affect thyroid function, nutritional > supplement amounts are not going to. > > >What most use is > > supplemental doses no more than what you are supposed to get in > > drinking water. Just that some parts of the country have less in the > > water than others. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2008 Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 I know. He is saving our children!!! On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:29 AM, c.horton28 wrote: > Dear and , > already confirmed what I was going to post after doing some > research. I guess the amounts of Lithium we are taking or giving are > just fine and will not have an effect on the thyroid. I am happy to > hear this, I will start as soon as possible. > , I will email soon, I am trying to find some time, everyone in > my house has the flu. > I also wanted to say that I love this man, Andy Cutler. His postive > attitude and unselfishness when give suggestions is admirable. We are > so lucky to have a kind man with so much knowlegde able to take time > out of his life to help. If you are reading... Thank you Andy. > > > Andy > > > > > > lithium can affect thyroid function yes, but as I understood > it, it > > > would be in higher doses or in prescription lithium. > > > > Correct. Rx levels of Li dosing may (or may not) affect thyroid > function, nutritional > > supplement amounts are not going to. > > > > >What most use is > > > supplemental doses no more than what you are supposed to get in > > > drinking water. Just that some parts of the country have less in > the > > > water than others. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 my dd is 63 lbs. how much lithium would you give? i just bought the lithium orotate. the one you have. thanks, denise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 thanks monique On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:44 AM, iam2l84t wrote: > Hi , > > I don't have a code for you but wanted to mention that I'm now using > this brand of lithium at iHerb: > http://www.iherb.com/Search.aspx?kw=lithium%20orotate > > As far as I can tell (for me & my DD) it works just as well as the VRP > brand. Same strength but you get 200 caps for $14,95 so much better > value than VRP. > > > > > > > > I need to buy more lithium from VRP and was wondering if there were > > any codes to get a discount. Thanks. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 on the page it says the strength 4.9mg not 120mg as stated in the upper part by the bottle--just wanted to check this with whoever ordered it -did you actually get your bottle from iherb yet? wondering which typo is wrong! I went and ordered from VRP for now- but would love to know what the bottle from iherb actually is thanks! Iveta > > > > > > I need to buy more lithium from VRP and was wondering if there were > > > any codes to get a discount. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Elemental lithium is 4.9mg. The other 115.1mg is orotate. A lot of supplements you buy doesn't list elemental amounts. i.e. calcium carbonate. You think you're getting 500mg of calcium, but part of that is carbonate, so you're actually getting less of pure calcium. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:23 AM, lucy4gets <lucy2max@...> wrote: > on the page it says the strength 4.9mg not 120mg as stated in the > upper part by the bottle--just wanted to check this with whoever > ordered it -did you actually get your bottle from iherb yet? wondering > which typo is wrong! I went and ordered from VRP for now- but would > love to know what the bottle from iherb actually is thanks! > Iveta > > > > > > > > > > > I need to buy more lithium from VRP and was wondering if there were > > > > any codes to get a discount. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 - thanks. forgot about that! Lithium- is it one we start slowly and build up? For myself-one pill a week and then two pills the next? I am very loooow. How much do you take, also -do you give it to your kids? what dose? any side effects? thanks! Iveta > > > > > > > > > > I need to buy more lithium from VRP and was wondering if there were > > > > > any codes to get a discount. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2009 Report Share Posted March 2, 2009 Hi, Iveta. My hair test was OK, but I take just 1 a day. It's good for neutrophils. My 4.5yo was very low, so I started him at 1/4 cap and worked up to a full one. He just gets it once a day. His hair mercury was in the yellow, so I think contaminated seafood consumption was leading to his low lithium, so I'm hoping it'll slowly go back up with no more known mercury exposure. And no side effects that we saw what-so-ever. His mood has been more stable lately. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM, lucy4gets <lucy2max@...> wrote: > - thanks. forgot about that! Lithium- is it one we start slowly > and build up? For myself-one pill a week and then two pills the next? > I am very loooow. > How much do you take, also -do you give it to your kids? what dose? > any side effects? > thanks! > Iveta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to buy more lithium from VRP and was wondering if > there were > > > > > > any codes to get a discount. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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