Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 If your child is allergic to or sensitive to GSE, you may try Caprylic Acid ( from coconut oil) also very good for killing yeast. My son's food allergy panel shows highly sensitive to citrus based food, our DAN switched from GSE to caprylic acid. So far so good, I can see a much better results in cleanning up yeast. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > We don't do apples here because they make my kids really spacey. > > Our doc. > > said it was probably all the sugar. They are both very sensitive to > > sugar, > > so they eat a low sugar diet. Have you tried pears instead of > apples? > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > Door Hardware > Choose from thousands of styles and save on new door hardware. > Click now! > http://tagline. excite.com/ fc/ > JkJQPTgKhUNqxP1FIqS oDDoKhClgsMGZtDW syNeW9SlShD28mOw XDK/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Possibly caused by both apple and probiotic. Apple---high in phenol, also a great candidate that feed yeasts. You need to either add phenol assisted enzyme ( Houston, and Kirkmam Labs both have this type of supp), or reduce or rid of apple for a while and continue anti-fungal protocol such as OLE and caprylic acid, and massive doesage of Biotin ( per Dana, biotin, 20 mg per time, 3 times a week) Probiotic-- you need check if there is strep lines in your probiotic. It there is, you need to switch to non-strep lines probiotic-- From Klaire Labs, Detoxification Support Probiotic, you can order from klaire directly or from New Beginnings. This is only probiotic my DAN recommend my son to get on. My son is a big time PANDAS kid as well. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > We don't do apples here because they make my kids really spacey. > > Our doc. > > said it was probably all the sugar. They are both very sensitive to > > sugar, > > so they eat a low sugar diet. Have you tried pears instead of > apples? > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > Door Hardware > Choose from thousands of styles and save on new door hardware. > Click now! > http://tagline. excite.com/ fc/ > JkJQPTgKhUNqxP1FIqS oDDoKhClgsMGZtDW syNeW9SlShD28mOw XDK/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Sounds like your child has the identical food intolerance to my son. We recently ran IgG food panel test with immunologist, also a DAN and learn that my son is allergic to a lot of food, included tomatoes, watermelons, grapefruit, citrus,.. those are what he likes the most. The weird thing is when he eats tomatoes, watermelons even GSE for years, he has never shown any discomfort, or allergy symptoms, but he will be very stimming, hyper, anxious. Through the test, we learned that my son is not supposed to eat these fruit, We remove them from his diet totally, also we learned why our childre can't eat watermelon, apples, tomatoes all that great food is because mercury damage their metablism. Also, the pancreas can't release proper enzyme to break down these food. So, back to the basic, keep avoiding these food from diet is not the answer. We need to rebuild or repair the broken metablism, once the metablism is functioning, they can tolerate anyfood they like. Repairing metablism is also related to rid of toxic metal first, and add proper supp such as selemiun, CO Q10, a lot of B, E, C... this is another whole chapter that we have to catch up and learn. Avoiding food is not the final answer. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. From: eli8591 <eli8591@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Apples Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were completely off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started tolerated some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad this summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it with my older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug ...wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > I guess they would be phenol, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I did like Rei's summation on this, mostly a side note...we haven't tried no-phenol, others have had good results with this & will chime in?!. Would check archives, comes up fairly often...for us, mostly logistics & access (my energy/ability & her motion sickness combine so we do this the " hard " way - supportive foods/supps, avoiding & as improvements happen, we try adding in more foods...and I read, read, reread & reread again looking for things to do & try. wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Hey that is a good idea, I have been looking for an excuse to buy another supplement *chuckling*, my son has problems with apples too. > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 what about using boitin? On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Rei wrote: > If your child is allergic to or sensitive to GSE, you may try > Caprylic Acid ( from coconut oil) also very good for killing yeast. > My son's food allergy panel shows highly sensitive to citrus based > food, our DAN switched from GSE to caprylic acid. So far so good, I > can see a much better results in cleanning up yeast. > > Sincerely, > > Rei > Branch Manager > Network Funding, LP > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > El Paso, TX 79905 > Phone: 915-775-4669 > Fax: 915-775-9916 > Cell: 915-691-9072 > Less in Debt. More in Life. > Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > > > > > We don't do apples here because they make my kids really spacey. > > > Our doc. > > > said it was probably all the sugar. They are both very > sensitive to > > > sugar, > > > so they eat a low sugar diet. Have you tried pears instead of > > apples? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Door Hardware > > Choose from thousands of styles and save on new door hardware. > > Click now! > > http://tagline. excite.com/ fc/ > > JkJQPTgKhUNqxP1FIqS oDDoKhClgsMGZtDW syNeW9SlShD28mOw XDK/ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 So I am chelating with ALA...and I am giving Super Nu Thera. Is that a good start? On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Rei wrote: > Sounds like your child has the identical food intolerance to my > son. We recently ran IgG food panel test with immunologist, also a > DAN and learn that my son is allergic to a lot of food, included > tomatoes, watermelons, grapefruit, citrus,.. those are what he > likes the most. The weird thing is when he eats tomatoes, > watermelons even GSE for years, he has never shown any discomfort, > or allergy symptoms, but he will be very stimming, hyper, anxious. > Through the test, we learned that my son is not supposed to eat > these fruit, We remove them from his diet totally, also we learned > why our childre can't eat watermelon, apples, tomatoes all that > great food is because mercury damage their metablism. Also, the > pancreas can't release proper enzyme to break down these food. So, > back to the basic, keep avoiding these food from diet is not the > answer. We need to rebuild or repair the broken metablism, once the > metablism is functioning, they can tolerate anyfood they like. > Repairing metablism is also related to rid of toxic metal first, > and add proper supp such as selemiun, CO Q10, a lot of B, E, C... > this is another whole chapter that we have to catch up and learn. > Avoiding food is not the final answer. > > Sincerely, > > Rei > Branch Manager > Network Funding, LP > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > El Paso, TX 79905 > Phone: 915-775-4669 > Fax: 915-775-9916 > Cell: 915-691-9072 > Less in Debt. More in Life. > Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were completely > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started tolerated > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad this > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it with my > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 If you really want to try no-phenol from Houston, or phenol assistance from Kirkman, you may give phenol supp before snack or meal. I have used both, but I found out another type of enzyme works better than phenol supp. I use the enzyme complete from Kirkman, in the beginning of each meal. I discover a month later, not only my son can eat high phenol food without problems, he even can tolerate wheat products better. Enzyme helps our children break down and metablize what they eat, therefore reduce food sensitivity or intolerance. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. From: <elizabethsoliday@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Apples Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 5:30 PM Hey that is a good idea, I have been looking for an excuse to buy another supplement *chuckling*, my son has problems with apples too. > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Is Super Nu Thera a multi vitamins? Per Andy, when we are on ALA, we always have to make sure to have enough or boost up vitamins B,C,E, Zinc, Mag.... Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were completely > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started tolerated > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad this > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it with my > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 If you really want to try no-phenol from Houston, or phenol assistance from Kirkman, you may give phenol supp before snack or meal. I have used both, but I found out another type of enzyme works better than phenol supp. I use the enzyme complete from Kirkman, in the beginning of each meal. I discover a month later, not only my son can eat high phenol food without problems, he even can tolerate wheat products better. Enzyme helps our children break down and metablize what they eat, therefore reduce food sensitivity or intolerance. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. From: <elizabethsoliday@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Apples Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 5:30 PM Hey that is a good idea, I have been looking for an excuse to buy another supplement *chuckling*, my son has problems with apples too. > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 We have had all the food tests... and it never show that she is allergic to anything. On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Rei wrote: > Sounds like your child has the identical food intolerance to my > son. We recently ran IgG food panel test with immunologist, also a > DAN and learn that my son is allergic to a lot of food, included > tomatoes, watermelons, grapefruit, citrus,.. those are what he > likes the most. The weird thing is when he eats tomatoes, > watermelons even GSE for years, he has never shown any discomfort, > or allergy symptoms, but he will be very stimming, hyper, anxious. > Through the test, we learned that my son is not supposed to eat > these fruit, We remove them from his diet totally, also we learned > why our childre can't eat watermelon, apples, tomatoes all that > great food is because mercury damage their metablism. Also, the > pancreas can't release proper enzyme to break down these food. So, > back to the basic, keep avoiding these food from diet is not the > answer. We need to rebuild or repair the broken metablism, once the > metablism is functioning, they can tolerate anyfood they like. > Repairing metablism is also related to rid of toxic metal first, > and add proper supp such as selemiun, CO Q10, a lot of B, E, C... > this is another whole chapter that we have to catch up and learn. > Avoiding food is not the final answer. > > Sincerely, > > Rei > Branch Manager > Network Funding, LP > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > El Paso, TX 79905 > Phone: 915-775-4669 > Fax: 915-775-9916 > Cell: 915-691-9072 > Less in Debt. More in Life. > Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were completely > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started tolerated > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad this > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it with my > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Or if my child reacts to everything under the sun.... we could chelate using nothing like Dana did, right? On Sep 17, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Rei wrote: > Is Super Nu Thera a multi vitamins? Per Andy, when we are on ALA, > we always have to make sure to have enough or boost up vitamins > B,C,E, Zinc, Mag.... > > Sincerely, > > Rei > Branch Manager > Network Funding, LP > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > El Paso, TX 79905 > Phone: 915-775-4669 > Fax: 915-775-9916 > Cell: 915-691-9072 > Less in Debt. More in Life. > Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were > completely > > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started > tolerated > > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad > this > > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it > with my > > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Enough Super Nu Thera? Are you saying that you have to have enough SNT while chelating? On Sep 17, 2008, at 8:54 PM, Rei wrote: > Is Super Nu Thera a multi vitamins? Per Andy, when we are on ALA, > we always have to make sure to have enough or boost up vitamins > B,C,E, Zinc, Mag.... > > Sincerely, > > Rei > Branch Manager > Network Funding, LP > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > El Paso, TX 79905 > Phone: 915-775-4669 > Fax: 915-775-9916 > Cell: 915-691-9072 > Less in Debt. More in Life. > Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were > completely > > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started > tolerated > > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad > this > > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it > with my > > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Thanks! I was just kiddin, but I have thought this or Virastop would be the next things to try if we keep having food problems. > > > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Aside from phenol issues, tomatoes are high in natural glutamate so if the kid is already high glutamate (mine are high glutamate, low glutamine) that could cause problems. Also, tomatoes and eggplants are from the nightshade family of foods which are somewhat inflammatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 The book " Biological Treatments for Autism and PDD " has several stages of dietary restrictions, apples are not allowed, I can't find my copy of the book to reference the exact reason. Yeast maybe. Bel Mum to two girls (6yrs) HFA/allergy/food sensitivities (3.5yrs) NT/allergy/food sensitivities > > We don't do apples here because they make my kids really spacey. > > Our doc. > > said it was probably all the sugar. They are both very sensitive to > > sugar, > > so they eat a low sugar diet. Have you tried pears instead of apples? > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Door Hardware > Choose from thousands of styles and save on new door hardware. Click now! > http://tagline.excite.com/fc/JkJQPTgKhUNqxP1FIqSoDDoKhClgsMGZtDWsyNeW9SlShD28m OwXDK/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 > Possibly caused by both apple and probiotic. > Apple---high in phenol, also a great candidate that feed yeasts. You need to either add phenol assisted enzyme ( Houston, and Kirkmam Labs both have this type of supp), or reduce or rid of apple for a while and continue anti-fungal protocol such as OLE and caprylic acid, and massive doesage of Biotin ( per Dana, biotin, 20 mg per time, 3 times a week) For a while, I gave my son 20mg biotin 3x per day [not per week]. OLE is not an anti-fungal in my experience. It works on bacteria and viruses, and viral die off tends to increase yeast, so if your child has latent viruses, the OLE will tend to *increase* yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 > > Or if my child reacts to everything under the sun.... we could > chelate using nothing like Dana did, right? When I started ALA, the only supplement my son tolerated was HNI enzymes. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 , we had my son have the food allergy test, and it came back negative. WE were told he was fine with all the food, even my gut told me that wheat and diary are not good for him. Until we saw our newest DAN, I dont know if he use a different method to diagnose or something, per his food panel test, my son is either sensitive or allergic to A LOT of food. Based on this new test result, it really gives us a good clue how to design our son's food plan and he is doing much better now, calmer, speech is more clear and focus better... Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were completely > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started tolerated > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad this > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it with my > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 What I am saying is per Andy's book ( I am reading the second time recently), you have to have enough supplements to support your chelation. I am not sure about what is SNT, if you have Andy's book, you may check on the chapter-- what to take for mercury poisining. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were > completely > > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started > tolerated > > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad > this > > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it > with my > > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 my dd has had the ALCAT test, and Eliza test. does your doctor use one of those. i just can't go for any more food tests/blood work right now. On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Rei wrote: > , we had my son have the food allergy test, and it came back > negative. WE were told he was fine with all the food, even my gut > told me that wheat and diary are not good for him. Until we saw our > newest DAN, I dont know if he use a different method to diagnose or > something, per his food panel test, my son is either sensitive or > allergic to A LOT of food. > Based on this new test result, it really gives us a good clue how > to design our son's food plan and he is doing much better now, > calmer, speech is more clear and focus better... > > Sincerely, > > Rei > Branch Manager > Network Funding, LP > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > El Paso, TX 79905 > Phone: 915-775-4669 > Fax: 915-775-9916 > Cell: 915-691-9072 > Less in Debt. More in Life. > Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were > completely > > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started > tolerated > > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad > this > > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it > with my > > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 You new Dan doctor is in Kansas, you said? On Sep 18, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Rei wrote: > , we had my son have the food allergy test, and it came back > negative. WE were told he was fine with all the food, even my gut > told me that wheat and diary are not good for him. Until we saw our > newest DAN, I dont know if he use a different method to diagnose or > something, per his food panel test, my son is either sensitive or > allergic to A LOT of food. > Based on this new test result, it really gives us a good clue how > to design our son's food plan and he is doing much better now, > calmer, speech is more clear and focus better... > > Sincerely, > > Rei > Branch Manager > Network Funding, LP > 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 > El Paso, TX 79905 > Phone: 915-775-4669 > Fax: 915-775-9916 > Cell: 915-691-9072 > Less in Debt. More in Life. > Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were > completely > > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started > tolerated > > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad > this > > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it > with my > > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 go by your mother instinct. my son's test was a different one. Sincerely, Rei Branch Manager Network Funding, LP 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: 915-775-4669 Fax: 915-775-9916 Cell: 915-691-9072 Less in Debt. More in Life. Ask me about debt consolidation loans. > > > > From: eli8591 <eli8591 (DOT) com> > > Subject: [ ] Re: Apples > > > > Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 11:55 AM > > > > We haven't tried GSE here, but tomatoes & anything red were > completely > > off her list of foods for quite a while (maybe a year or so, prob a > > bit more) & I do think that was/is the phenols...she started > tolerated > > some red foods pretty recently, but not the tomatoes or watermelons > > (watermelon went off the list for quite possibly Years, badbadbad > this > > summer ...just this summer, she can easily tolerate our garden > > tomatoes (yellow, favorite! & red but still having issues with > > " regular " store tomatoes...as a side note, am thinking tomatoes are > > high melatonin, both of the worst migraine kids here used to inhale > > them & any sauces, etc (pizza! ...as their melatonin needs were > > addressed, this seemed to be less of a fight (not to eat, that is - > > with my 4yo). It was the same time period - trying to find problem > > foods & adding melatonin in, so could be wrong - feels like it > with my > > older child tho' & related...details, details, details, ug > > ..wishing you the best answers, elizabeth > > > > > > > > > > she goes crazy with GSE. and tomato sauce. > > > I guess they would be phenol, right? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 browsing...found this at onibasu - more ideas for the food issues & talks about some of the myriad apple/food issues.. http://onibasu.com/archives/nn/85876.html best answers to all! elizabeth > > she seems to do well on red delicious apples , but goes crazy on > golden delicious apples. Anyone ever have this happen? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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