Re: First time use of GSE - help please, DANA, anyone

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana. Thanks for your help. Stupidly, I started the GSE while using a new

brand of

DMSA (from vrp) along with ALA, both at a slightly higher dose than we usually

chelate

with. I know you are not supposed to start too many things at once.

I gave the GSE after a light breakfast on Friday, before the start of the round,

along with all

of his usual supps, multis etc. After we gave the GSE, my son became very

mellow, like he

never was before. Probably, I should have tried the diluted route you

mentioned.

Generally he has no problems with phenols. He was perfectly behaved. Then a

few hours

later, he really refused to eat much for lunch, just some french fries, I gave

the chelators

and all of his afternoon supps on what amounted to very little food. After that

he threw

up. I never gave him anymore GSE after that am dose. I just continued on the

round. Our

son ate very little just some potato chips.

I debated to stop the round yesterday mid way through, when he continued to

refuse to

eat, just chips and blackberries, he refused hamburgers, gfcf cookies, fries,

all of his

favorite foods, which worried me. But otherwise he was very happy, playing and

using lots

of language, My husband wanted us to continue since we are seeing such gains.

Now it is

Sunday, and it is the same scenario, just chips to eat, very happy. I have

stopped all supps

except liver support and his minerals during the round.

Is it a likely scenario that the GSE was too strong, and upset his stomach from

the get go,

and we just compounded the problem by giving his usual supps and the chelators

on top

of an already upset stomach?

What would be the smart thing to do? Just go back to the weaker anti fungal

protocol for

a few days, till his stomach is back? Should I suspend his multi vitamins for a

day or so,

since the b's I know are hard on the belly too? Then if we see the yeasty

behavior return,

try just a very diluted dose of GSE on a non chelation day?

I know in retrospect what I did was stupid, but what's done is done, and I am

just trying to

figure out how to repair the damage, and how to go on from here, because I do

feel that

the GSE did help a lot with what was amounting to very yeast like behavior.

Thanks. Irene

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Dana. Thanks for your help. Stupidly, I started the GSE while

using a new brand of

> DMSA (from vrp) along with ALA, both at a slightly higher dose than

we usually chelate

> with. I know you are not supposed to start too many things at once.

Don't worry about it too much. Sometimes things just happen.

> Is it a likely scenario that the GSE was too strong, and upset his

stomach from the get go,

> and we just compounded the problem by giving his usual supps and the

chelators on top

> of an already upset stomach?

That might be it. Or he might have had some significant yeast die

off, which killed his appetite. You might consider activated charcoal

about 30-45 minutes after the GSE, to address any die off issue.

> What would be the smart thing to do? Just go back to the weaker

anti fungal protocol for

> a few days, till his stomach is back?

Depends on what you were doing before. Maybe you can just switch to

OoO, see if that works better for him.

>>Should I suspend his multi vitamins for a day or so,

> since the b's I know are hard on the belly too?

Any time you remove something that helps, you risk another sort of

problem. If it is just a standard multi, the doses of the Bs won't be

that high anyway.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Did he happen to take zinc with all that before he threw up. Zinc

makes me really nauseus if I don't take it with food.

It does sound like going lower with the gse, follow with probiotics

four or more hours later...and work at getting him on it before the

round...so you will know what is causing the problems.

I do note on occasion in myself I have seen my appetite go to almost

nothing on a round. I'm just not hungry. It is also possible he got

that stomach bug that was going around a few days ago..it was very

brief and didn't last long. No fever, just felt nauseous and didn't

want to eat. It was really odd, then it past.

It sounds like he fared ok overall though.

>

> Hi Dana. Thanks for your help. Stupidly, I started the GSE while

using a new brand of

> DMSA (from vrp) along with ALA, both at a slightly higher dose than

we usually chelate

> with. I know you are not supposed to start too many things at once.

>

> I gave the GSE after a light breakfast on Friday, before the start

of the round, along with all

> of his usual supps, multis etc. After we gave the GSE, my son

became very mellow, like he

> never was before. Probably, I should have tried the diluted route

you mentioned.

> Generally he has no problems with phenols. He was perfectly

behaved. Then a few hours

> later, he really refused to eat much for lunch, just some french

fries, I gave the chelators

> and all of his afternoon supps on what amounted to very little food.

After that he threw

> up. I never gave him anymore GSE after that am dose. I just

continued on the round. Our

> son ate very little just some potato chips.

>

> I debated to stop the round yesterday mid way through, when he

continued to refuse to

> eat, just chips and blackberries, he refused hamburgers, gfcf

cookies, fries, all of his

> favorite foods, which worried me. But otherwise he was very happy,

playing and using lots

> of language, My husband wanted us to continue since we are seeing

such gains. Now it is

> Sunday, and it is the same scenario, just chips to eat, very happy.

I have stopped all supps

> except liver support and his minerals during the round.

>

> Is it a likely scenario that the GSE was too strong, and upset his

stomach from the get go,

> and we just compounded the problem by giving his usual supps and the

chelators on top

> of an already upset stomach?

>

> What would be the smart thing to do? Just go back to the weaker

anti fungal protocol for

> a few days, till his stomach is back? Should I suspend his multi

vitamins for a day or so,

> since the b's I know are hard on the belly too? Then if we see the

yeasty behavior return,

> try just a very diluted dose of GSE on a non chelation day?

>

> I know in retrospect what I did was stupid, but what's done is done,

and I am just trying to

> figure out how to repair the damage, and how to go on from here,

because I do feel that

> the GSE did help a lot with what was amounting to very yeast like

behavior.

>

> Thanks. Irene

>