Re: Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast protocol

[Guest guest]

---personally I have never had a problem with the uva ursi. I do

though use milk thistle for the liver and thiamine for kidney.I have

had issues with the caprilic acid prior to adding the carnitine for

the processing of fatty acids.In Autism-

Mercury , " mywonderbaby " <mywonderbaby@...> wrote:

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> I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he

prescribed... I

> think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My

son

> is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

>

> Week 1 & 2

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Nystatin twice a day

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> Week 3 & 4

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> Uva Ursi twice a day

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> Week 5 & 6

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Diflucan 100 mg once a day

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> Week 7 & 8

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

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> I have added GSE on my own.

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[Guest guest]

If this is liquid nystatin, that contains artificial flavors, colors

and aluminum. All of which were problems for my son. We used gse instead.

I am not sure why your DAN is rotating the antifungals.

We used gse itself alternating with probiotics without any issues and

did not have to change antifungals.

Anyone else seen a protocol like this?

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> I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed... I

> think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

>

> Week 1 & 2

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Nystatin twice a day

>

> Week 3 & 4

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> Uva Ursi twice a day

>

> Week 5 & 6

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Diflucan 100 mg once a day

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> Week 7 & 8

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

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> I have added GSE on my own.

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[Guest guest]

I don't think I've heard anyone else report this, but Uva Ursi caused a negative

reaction

with our 4 yr old. It caused him to retreat into himself a lot more. I am not

saying don't

use it, because I know many do without bad reactions. I would just keep an eye

on it.

Maggie d.

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> I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed... I

> think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

>

> Week 1 & 2

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Nystatin twice a day

>

> Week 3 & 4

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> Uva Ursi twice a day

>

> Week 5 & 6

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Diflucan 100 mg once a day

>

> Week 7 & 8

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

>

> I have added GSE on my own.

>

[Guest guest]

How high is his yeast?  I am new to all of this too.  We have a bad yeast

problem but we are not doing anything like this.  We are just doing diflucan one

time daily. 

 

I just decided to have his diflucan compounded at Lee Silby's Compounding

pharmacy in Ohio in order to " clean up " the ingredients.  It eliminated the

aluminum and the red dye 40... but they still flavor it with tangerine or

lemon.  The con is it's very expensive and Lee Silsby's does not take insurance

so you have to pay and wait for reimbursement but I figure if I am going to do a

prescription formula this is the best way.

 

Please let us know how this protocol works.  I have been thinking of adding GSE

on my own as well.

From: mywonderbaby <mywonderbaby@...>

Subject: [ ] Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast protocol

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 11:53 PM

I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed.. . I

think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

Week 1 & 2

1/2 cap candex twice a day

Nystatin twice a day

Week 3 & 4

1/2 cap candex twice a day

Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

Uva Ursi twice a day

Week 5 & 6

1/2 cap candex twice a day

Diflucan 100 mg once a day

Week 7 & 8

1/2 cap candex twice a day

Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

I have added GSE on my own.

[Guest guest]

I also forgot to add that our nystain was not compounded, but the

regular stuff they give to most everyone's kids. If yours is

compounded, it probably does not have any of that.

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> > I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed... I

> > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

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> > Week 1 & 2

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Nystatin twice a day

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> > Week 3 & 4

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> > Uva Ursi twice a day

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> > Week 5 & 6

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Diflucan 100 mg once a day

> >

> > Week 7 & 8

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

> >

> > I have added GSE on my own.

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>

[Guest guest]

I think this is the first yeast protocol I have seen like this in my

three years here.

As for GSE it works wonderfully for us. We have not used anything

else. So it is a viable option for many. Unless one is allergic to

grapefruit.

I agree that compounding it is best. Red dye and aluminum do no one

any good. Many do not realize that FD & C food colorings are petro based

chemicals.

The supplement file contains other things that can be used for yeast

as well if one did not wish to use nystatin or diflucan.

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> From: mywonderbaby <mywonderbaby@...>

> Subject: [ ] Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast

protocol

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> Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 11:53 PM

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> around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed.. . I

> think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

>

> Week 1 & 2

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Nystatin twice a day

>

> Week 3 & 4

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> Uva Ursi twice a day

>

> Week 5 & 6

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Diflucan 100 mg once a day

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> Week 7 & 8

> 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

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[Guest guest]

I also don't see the DAN recommend a probiotic.

This is a very important part of yeast protocol. I know your using one

already, but for those that are new to yeast treatment. It's important

to use one four or more hours apart from the antifungals.

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> > I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed... I

> > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

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> > Week 1 & 2

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Nystatin twice a day

> >

> > Week 3 & 4

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> > Uva Ursi twice a day

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> > Week 5 & 6

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Diflucan 100 mg once a day

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> > Week 7 & 8

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

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> > I have added GSE on my own.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, this type of antifungal protocol is a common DAN! practice. They call this

" the antifungal parade "

From: Jan <mercurybabies2@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast protocol

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 7:11 PM

I also forgot to add that our nystain was not compounded, but the

regular stuff they give to most everyone's kids. If yours is

compounded, it probably does not have any of that.

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> > I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed.. . I

> > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

> >

> > Week 1 & 2

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Nystatin twice a day

> >

> > Week 3 & 4

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> > Uva Ursi twice a day

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> > Week 5 & 6

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Diflucan 100 mg once a day

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> > Week 7 & 8

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

> >

> > I have added GSE on my own.

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[Guest guest]

Really? Very interesting. Definitely a parade. How much are they

making selling all those antifungals? I have to say in three years on

A-M it's new to me. I am going to double check this right now but I

though we were not supposed to rotate antifungals so rapidly as the

yeast can become resistant to them if we do. Most of the parents I

have talked with including myself use one antifungal along with

probiotics. Unless or until that one does not work. So far, cross my

fingers...three years with gse and it's still working.

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prescribed.. . I

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[Guest guest]

I don't know if this helps everyone or not but I searched some of the

old posts archived on Onibasu and the consensus was not to rotate

antifungals. It creates resistance to them.

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/171044.html

Andy says basically not to rotate them but to use one and keep using

it until the child is detoxed enough that yeast is no longer a problem

or it doesn't work. Which one you use will vary of course, depending

on what the child tolerates or will take. And what works.

Dana (Dana's View) is very knowledgeable on yeast too. Perhaps if she

gets time she can post. She used biotin to treat yeast.

Many of us chose not to use rx antifungals because they are harder on

the liver. http://onibasu.com/archives/am/57461.html

That's not to say not to use rx's. Sometimes they are needed.

But essentially...no rotating.

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prescribed.. . I

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[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Jan

Really? Very interesting. Definitely a parade.

===>Lol

I am going to double check this right now but I

though we were not supposed to rotate antifungals so rapidly as the

yeast can become resistant to them if we do.

===>That's correct, I've known some to get away with rotating but for others

when they rotated they eventually found themselves with NOTHING that worked as

the yeast had become resistant to everything, not a good place to be, at all.

Better to stick with one or two things until they no longer work and then move

on.

Most of the parents I have talked with including myself use one antifungal

along with probiotics. Unless or until that one does not work. So far, cross my

fingers...three years with gse and it's still working.

===>Her yeast quickly became resistant to GSE, but OoO was always effective,

highly individual. You're lucky, GSE is inexpensive.

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> > > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he

prescribed.. . I

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> > > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi.

My son

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> > > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

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[Guest guest]

yes, thankfully the gse is cheap, because there is no way he'd get

near Oil or oregano...I use it sometimes, but he'd never take it. Your

kid is brave! Probably swallows pills though.

I am still chasing mine down to take his supps....argh.

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> > > > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he

> prescribed.. . I

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> > > > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi.

> My son

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[Guest guest]

Hey guys --- I am really scared now ! First this MD DAN doctor

prescribes Namenda for my 2 year old and then he gives this yeast

protocol parade.... I am already a nervous wreck when it comes to all

these supplements - you should see my hands literally shaking when I

open the caps for my son to mix it in his food. I really suck at

biomed stuff so that leaves me not to trust my instincts and thats why

I ask too many questions here.

What should I do ? Kiddo has lots of yeast. From his ION report, his

D-Arabinitol is very high. Can anybody suggest a long term safe yeast

protocol ? I really need to fix his yeast issues before moving ahead

with chelation.

Thanks,

Maya

-- In , " Jan " <mercurybabies2@...> wrote:

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> I think this is the first yeast protocol I have seen like this in my

> three years here.

> As for GSE it works wonderfully for us. We have not used anything

> else. So it is a viable option for many. Unless one is allergic to

> grapefruit.

> I agree that compounding it is best. Red dye and aluminum do no one

> any good. Many do not realize that FD & C food colorings are petro based

> chemicals.

> The supplement file contains other things that can be used for yeast

> as well if one did not wish to use nystatin or diflucan.

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> > From: mywonderbaby <mywonderbaby@>

> > Subject: [ ] Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast

> protocol

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> > Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 11:53 PM

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> > I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he

prescribed.. . I

> > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

> >

> > Week 1 & 2

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Nystatin twice a day

> >

> > Week 3 & 4

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> > Uva Ursi twice a day

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> > Week 5 & 6

> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Diflucan 100 mg once a day

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> > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

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[Guest guest]

I have found this website a great resource when dealing with my son's yeast

problem.

http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Largey <l.largey@...> wrote:

> Maya

>

> Dan Dr's can be limitedly ( is that a word ) helpful for getting tests etc

> but its a parents job to ask questions and research before doing anything..

> I personally feel that way anyways . I ask lots of questions here. Dont

> feel bad

> for doing so. Gather lots of information..then decide. Parents are the ones

> seeing

> or not seeing results..good or bad. They are the ones I ask first..reaearch

> ( dont

> believe everything you read ) but getting an overall picture and then

> usually something

> will " make sense " particular to your child. We get all our tests done

> without an MD

> now. Most anyways, that we know wont be covered. A good naturopath is much

> cheaper and can help with diet and supplements especially in the begining.

> We do

> have a Dan Dr we see once a year and take most of what she says and

> research it.

> usually deciding half or more is useless or unknowlegable. She has nothing

> to do

> with our chelating our son. I didn't bother telling her..lol..Dont be

> afraid to ask questions

> or to question a Dr's advice.

>

>

> 38 and Mom to three

> Tasha 23..new Mommy ( means I am a Grammy )

> Casey-Mae 13..sweet as pie

> Elijah 2.. ASD and beautiful

>

> ________________________________

> From: mywonderbaby <mywonderbaby@... <mywonderbaby%40>>

> < %40>

> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:00:30 AM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast

> protocol

>

>

> Hey guys --- I am really scared now ! First this MD DAN doctor

> prescribes Namenda for my 2 year old and then he gives this yeast

> protocol parade.... I am already a nervous wreck when it comes to all

> these supplements - you should see my hands literally shaking when I

> open the caps for my son to mix it in his food. I really suck at

> biomed stuff so that leaves me not to trust my instincts and thats why

> I ask too many questions here.

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> What should I do ? Kiddo has lots of yeast. From his ION report, his

> D-Arabinitol is very high. Can anybody suggest a long term safe yeast

> protocol ? I really need to fix his yeast issues before moving ahead

> with chelation.

>

> Thanks,

> Maya

>

> -- In , " Jan " <mercurybabies2@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > I think this is the first yeast protocol I have seen like this in my

> > three years here.

> > As for GSE it works wonderfully for us. We have not used anything

> > else. So it is a viable option for many. Unless one is allergic to

> > grapefruit.

> > I agree that compounding it is best. Red dye and aluminum do no one

> > any good. Many do not realize that FD & C food colorings are petro based

> > chemicals.

> > The supplement file contains other things that can be used for yeast

> > as well if one did not wish to use nystatin or diflucan.

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> > > From: mywonderbaby <mywonderbaby@ >

> > > Subject: [ ] Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast

> > protocol

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> > > Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 11:53 PM

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> > > I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> > > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he

> prescribed.. . I

> > > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> > > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

> > >

> > > Week 1 & 2

> > > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > > Nystatin twice a day

> > >

> > > Week 3 & 4

> > > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > > Caprylic Acid in MCT oil twice a day

> > > Uva Ursi twice a day

> > >

> > > Week 5 & 6

> > > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > > Diflucan 100 mg once a day

> > >

> > > Week 7 & 8

> > > 1/2 cap candex twice a day

> > > Formula SF 722 1 twice a day.

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[Guest guest]

That's exactly the reason why they are rotating, to prevent resistance.

I like the GSE also, but others have been successful with the antifungal parade

also.

I guess we as parents just have to see if things are working.

I  like Dana's suggestions and that's what I'm currently using, GSE and Biotin

 Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast protocol

Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 7:27 PM

Really? Very interesting. Definitely a parade. How much are they

making selling all those antifungals? I have to say in three years on

A-M it's new to me. I am going to double check this right now but I

though we were not supposed to rotate antifungals so rapidly as the

yeast can become resistant to them if we do. Most of the parents I

have talked with including myself use one antifungal along with

probiotics. Unless or until that one does not work. So far, cross my

fingers...three years with gse and it's still working.

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[ ] Please help: Our DAN gave us this yeast

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> > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

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> I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he prescribed... I

> think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My son

> is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

I used biotin and GSE with good success. Never had to rotate.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> What should I do ? Kiddo has lots of yeast. From his ION report, his

> D-Arabinitol is very high. Can anybody suggest a long term safe yeast

> protocol ?

Probiotics and biotin.

>>I really need to fix his yeast issues before moving ahead

> with chelation.

For many kids, you can't entirely eliminate the yeast *until* you

chelate, so don't wait until it is " fixed " before you start the

chelation. I would recommend you get the yeast " reasonably under

control " , and know what works for your child to keep it that way.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi, Maya,

First, your instincts are probably helping your child just as much as anything.

You can trust

your instincts, more than any doctor.

Second, us parents understand your sense of urgency to help your child. But

it's OK to

slow down a bit and do research on what you're giving your kid before you give

it to him.

You may not totally understand the science (I never do), but to understand it

enough and

talk to enough parents so your hands aren't shaking when you give him his

supplements.

Your instincts will tell you when you know enough.

Also, can you talk to your DAN about your concerns? Our DAN pretty much always

compromises with us, unless it is something she insists on, like blood and urine

tests.

HTH,

Maggie d.

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> Hey guys --- I am really scared now ! First this MD DAN doctor

> prescribes Namenda for my 2 year old and then he gives this yeast

> protocol parade.... I am already a nervous wreck when it comes to all

> these supplements - you should see my hands literally shaking when I

> open the caps for my son to mix it in his food. I really suck at

> biomed stuff so that leaves me not to trust my instincts and thats why

> I ask too many questions here.

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> What should I do ? Kiddo has lots of yeast. From his ION report, his

> D-Arabinitol is very high. Can anybody suggest a long term safe yeast

> protocol ? I really need to fix his yeast issues before moving ahead

> with chelation.

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> Thanks,

> Maya

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[Guest guest]

What is the dosage for GSE and Biotin? My 5yr old is having some

major yeast issues and probiotics are not enough for him.

Thanks!!

> > I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he

prescribed... I

> > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My

son

> > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

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> Dana

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[Guest guest]

Probiotics have never been enough on their own for my kid either.

We began gse at 1/4 tablet when he was three yrs. At five years maybe

1/2 tablet a day, waiting a few days before adding more. I found that

he needs between 1-3 tablets a day depending on how bad the yeast is.

Give probiotics four or more hours away from the gse. Don't use gse

without probiotics, and stop the gse if the yeast is gone. IF, I say,

because that has only happened twice for us, and then we end up back

on it. My kid is a yeast machine!

Biotin: Dana? She posted the doses a few times and even emailed them

to me...but I can't remember...is it 10mg? Check the files

" supplement " file..I think it may be in there, or search for " Dana,

Biotin " .

> > > I somehow dont trust our DAN very well but I dont have that many

> > > around that I can go to. Here is the yeast protocol he

> prescribed... I

> > > think I am okay with most of the protocol except for Uva Ursi. My

> son

> > > is 2 yrs old. I am scared that it may be hard on his liver/kidney.

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> > I used biotin and GSE with good success. Never had to rotate.

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[Guest guest]

I second Dana, we have never entirely rid the yeast, but kept it

controlled enough to chelate. Around round 50 I noticed that we don't

have to go after yeast as aggressively as we used too. So it's getting

more manageable. But...it's not likely to completely get rid of it

without chelation. And it will flare up off and on with rounds anyway.

So finding that yeast protocol that works for your kid and sticking

with it...

> > What should I do ? Kiddo has lots of yeast. From his ION report, his

> > D-Arabinitol is very high. Can anybody suggest a long term safe yeast

> > protocol ?

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> >>I really need to fix his yeast issues before moving ahead

> > with chelation.

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> For many kids, you can't entirely eliminate the yeast *until* you

> chelate, so don't wait until it is " fixed " before you start the

> chelation. I would recommend you get the yeast " reasonably under

> control " , and know what works for your child to keep it that way.

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> Dana

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> What is the dosage for GSE and Biotin? My 5yr old is having some

> major yeast issues and probiotics are not enough for him.

The most I gave my son was 20mg biotin 3x per day. At the height of

the anti-viral protocol, I had to give that dose of biotin together

with 2 tablets of GSE [viral die off caused more yeast here than

chelation did].

Definitely don't start at 20mg tho. Start lower and work up as required.

Dana