Francis Lappe // was: Re: O/T What books do you recommend

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Dear ,

Thank you for your email. Our daughter got well from autism as a child

through patterning and diet, and it was the shift to vegan that tipped her over

into well.

How healthy can cod liver oil be for anyone when the liver is the detox

organ and the seas are polluted?

As the body becomes healthier, less toxic, less stress from consuming animal

products, things normalize.

I've read other parents' comments that being vegan has made a great

difference for their child with autism. Also 2 cases of parents putting their

child

diagnosed with juvenile diabetes on the raw vegan diet, and the diabetes

vanishing.

And actually watched this worked so fast for our dear neighbor in her

eighties.

Sincerely,

Francine

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Francine,

Would Omega 3's made from anchovies and sardines be OK on the liver?

On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:21 PM, sunrose101@... wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> Thank you for your email. Our daughter got well from autism as a child

> through patterning and diet, and it was the shift to vegan that

> tipped her over

> into well.

>

> How healthy can cod liver oil be for anyone when the liver is the

> detox

> organ and the seas are polluted?

>

> As the body becomes healthier, less toxic, less stress from

> consuming animal

> products, things normalize.

>

> I've read other parents' comments that being vegan has made a great

> difference for their child with autism. Also 2 cases of parents

> putting their child

> diagnosed with juvenile diabetes on the raw vegan diet, and the

> diabetes

> vanishing.

>

> And actually watched this worked so fast for our dear neighbor in her

> eighties.

>

> Sincerely,

> Francine

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> favorites,

> no registration required and great graphics – check it out!

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> http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

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>

[Guest guest]

You can get higher quality oils that are tested for heavy metals, PCB's

etc. You definitely want quality.

And keep in mind that unless you can be sure you are eating 100%

organic/biodynamic, then you've still got issues because we've done a

great job in polluting the air and the ground as well as the oceans.

By the way, what does " tipped over into the well " mean? Does this mean

complete and absolute recovery, with no autism whatsoever?

I've also heard of cases of people eating healthy (non vegan) and

getting over diabetes.

Then there's the B12 issue.

Maybe you got lucky Francine and your child was able to derive the EPA

and DHA from the flaxseed. But my daughter was so badly mercury

poisoned, so many biochemical pathways have been damaged, I saw no

improvements on just flaxseed. And this is only anecdotal, but then

again so are your examples..... of all the parents I know with ASD kids,

the ones using CLO are doing so much better than the kids on flaxseed only.

Arias wrote:

> Francine,

> Would Omega 3's made from anchovies and sardines be OK on the liver?

> On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:21 PM, sunrose101@... wrote:

>

>

>> Dear ,

>>

>> Thank you for your email. Our daughter got well from autism as a child

>> through patterning and diet, and it was the shift to vegan that

>> tipped her over

>> into well.

>>

>> How healthy can cod liver oil be for anyone when the liver is the

>> detox

>> organ and the seas are polluted?

>>

>> As the body becomes healthier, less toxic, less stress from

>> consuming animal

>> products, things normalize.

>>

>> I've read other parents' comments that being vegan has made a great

>> difference for their child with autism. Also 2 cases of parents

>> putting their child

>> diagnosed with juvenile diabetes on the raw vegan diet, and the

>> diabetes

>> vanishing.

>>

>> And actually watched this worked so fast for our dear neighbor in her

>> eighties.

>>

>> Sincerely,

>> Francine

>> **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your

>> favorites,

>> no registration required and great graphics -- check it out!

>> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?

>> redir=

>> http://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001)

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Cod liver oil is the Almighty healer in our home. Words can't describe the

thankfulness and gratefulness I have towards the substance. We use barleans

now, but we always use mercury free clo. We also eat meat including and organic

beeler bacon which if you tasted the extreme yummyness of, the melt in your

mouth goodness, the amazing aroma, the fat that you don't drain off but that you

eat with the bacon, you'd know it came from a very unstressed and happy pig! I

tell you beeler bacon could de veganize or de vegitarianize someone. It's just

that good. It would be worth cheating for...I mean if you ever do want to eat

some meat... Corn and gluten free also.

[Guest guest]

I disagree that arachidonic acid increases inflammation. I got 's

inflammation under control using a weston a price foundation ideas that are 180

degrees away from avoiding arachidonic acid. We used a porters milk cure

approach followed by giving her more fats and more red meats. In my research

we found that there is a huge divide there in philosophies. There was a huge

fork in the road and we had to go one direction or the other because the

inflammation diets were so opposite of each other. Please go on a

hyperallergenic diet and trial each food your child is on before you make

drastic changes in their diet. My child was allergic to all of the gluten free

grains and her inflammation worsened while on the SCD diet because she was

severely allergic to the foods in the new diet. She was worse on gluten and

casein free diets, much worse. In my experience the Weston A price type of diet

would be way more compatable with the Andy Cutler method than the eastern diets

that forbid red meats.....Weston a price ideas seem to promote getting more

nutrients from foods and cod liver oil is a main component in the diet.

just my experience anyway. Reminding you that my son chelated successfully on a

diet of burger king and pizza hut keeps it in perspective for me.

My daughter needs protien and red meat to control her inflammation. I stand by

that and she is inflammation free 2 years this January.

I do very much agree that inflammation is an issue for asd kids. Just disagree

about how to go about stopping the inflammation when it comes to foods.

[Guest guest]

> I do very much agree that inflammation is an issue for asd kids.

Just disagree about how to go about stopping the inflammation when it

comes to foods.

>

>

FWIW: My oldest son and I both have a form of cystic fibrosis. For

us, avoiding foods high in arachidonic acid has been very helpful. I

don't doubt that other folks without CF will have very different

experiences. For him, addressing his CF-related medical issues has

done a great deal for his " ASD " symptoms.

I would be happy to read any links you can offer with solid

information about the view you have. I have googled Weston Price and

AA and basically come up with unsupported sound bites. They say:

" Series-2 prostaglandins that the body makes from arachidonic acid

both encourage and inhibit inflammation under appropriate

circumstances. " I am very curious what " under appropriate

circumstances " means.

Peace.

Michele

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http://www.kidslikemine.org

http://www.solanorail.org

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We didn't see any results that I can remember for two months. Two months after

starting clo we added a phosphydityl choline supplement and grapeseed extract

and within a week after adding the new things, we think we got a combined effect

from clo and choline or clo and grapeseed extract and he went from a complete

shut in with ocd fear of leaving the house to going out three times a week. Also

his talking and eye contact, and socialization went through the roof. The gains

have stayed and he is no longer on any supplements or chelation and those gains

are still here, two years later. He now drives and goes to college and works

full time and goes out regularly. On halloween, he and his friends went to

haunted houses.