Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 I'm not argue against your plans, just be aware if your kids turn out to be like my daughter (who also had significant lead issues) then they may find chelation a lot easier to deal with on ALA + DMSA. My daughter found rounds a LOT rougher when we did ALA alone, and so EASY (like it was nothing) when we did ALA + DMSA. What is your liver concern? High AST and ALT scores? High dose milk thistle will usually do wonders in reducing AST and ALT and general liver repair. dana pope wrote: > > I would like some more help on this as well. My boys are high in lead > but I really want to do ALA alone because it supports the liver > instead of stressing it like DMSA. Any suggestions? > > > > From: sunrose101@... <mailto:sunrose101%40aol.com> > <sunrose101@... <mailto:sunrose101%40aol.com>> > Subject: [ ] questions for Dana on just using ALA > > <mailto: %40> > Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 2:21 PM > > Would you mind explaining why and what the dosage and your dosing > schedule? > > Thanks, > Francine > ************ **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Mail. Try it now. > (http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp & icid= aolcom40vanity & > ncid=emlcntaolco m00000025) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 Thank you for answering Dana. Just to clarify, that's every 8 hours, and the 25 mgs. was for you and your kids? i.e. rather than by weight? Did it ultimately pull out all lead, mercury? My daughter is now higher in lead than mercury, or was from a dmps challenge test that sent her off the wall for months; now I now they aren't good. She also has thallium, of which I hear nothing on this board. Francine 12b. _Re: questions for Dana on just using ALA _ ( /message/246320;_ylc=X3oDMTJyY3VmZ3\ VlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQxNj gwNwRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnSWQDMjQ2MzIwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2bXNnBHN0aW1l AzEyMzA1NjIyMjQ-) Posted by: " danasview " _danasview@... _ (mailto:danasview@...?Subject= Re:%20questions%20for%20Dana%20on%20just%20using%20ALA) _danasview _ (danasview) Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:49 am (PST) --- In _ @Autism-MercuAut_ (mailto: ) , sunrose101@., sunro > > Would you mind explaining why and what the dosage and your dosing schedule? I used only ALA. I started with 25mg 3x per day, 3 days on and 4 days off. Note: this is not the protocol usually recommended on this message group. I used only ALA because I was not comfortable with the potential side effects of DMSA. My kids [and me personally] did very well with this protocol. Dana _Back to top _ (mip://02b909a0/default.html#toc) _Reply to sender _ (mailto:danasview@...?Subject=Re:%20questions%20for%20Dana%20on%20just%20u\ sing%20ALA) | _Reply to group _ (mailto: ?Subject= Re:%20questions%20for%20Dana%20on%20just%20using%20ALA) | _Reply via web post _ ( /post;_ylc=X3oDMTJycjR0cTBiBF9TAzk3\ MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQxNjgwNwRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDMjQ2MzIwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEyMzA1NjIyMjQ-?act=reply & messageNum=246320) _Messages in this topic _ ( /message/246275;_ylc=X3oDMTM4ODJnYm\ 41BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzQxNjgwNwRncnBzcElkAzE 3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnSWQDMjQ2MzIwBHNlYwNkbXNnBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMzA1NjIyMjQEd HBjSWQDMjQ2Mjc1) (5) **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 > > Would you mind explaining why and what the dosage and your dosing schedule? I used only ALA. I started with 25mg 3x per day, 3 days on and 4 days off. Note: this is not the protocol usually recommended on this message group. I used only ALA because I was not comfortable with the potential side effects of DMSA. My kids [and me personally] did very well with this protocol. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 > > I would like some more help on this as well. My boys are high in lead but I really want to do ALA alone because it supports the liver instead of stressing it like DMSA. Any suggestions? Some kids do better when ALA and DMSA are given together. Based on the test results of several people who have sent me private email and also posted here on the group, ALA apparently does eliminate lead, just not as effectively as DMSA. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2008 Report Share Posted December 29, 2008 We used DMSA+ALA. DMSA is FDA-approved for lead chelation in children. It worked effectively and efficiently on my very lead-toxic (and other metals-toxic) son. ALA is very good for removing mercury and arsenic. DMSA helps control the side-effects of ALA and it marginally improves excretion of mercury. Personally, I wouldn't dream of chelating for lead with ALA only. The sooner you get the lead out the better, imo. Give liver support, like milk thistle on and off-round. I think the benefits of DMSA far outweight the costs. > > I would like some more help on this as well. My boys are high in lead but I really want to do ALA alone because it supports the liver instead of stressing it like DMSA. Any suggestions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 > Thank you for answering Dana. Just to clarify, that's every 8 hours, In the beginning, I did every 8 hours. After a few rounds, I gave it 3x per day with meals. >>and > the 25 mgs. was for you and your kids? i.e. rather than by weight? For the two younger kids, I started lower. For the two older kids and for myself, I started at 25mg. > Did it ultimately pull out all lead, mercury? I never did official testing, so I don't really know. I still do rounds every once in a while, but I never notice any difference with them. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 > My doctor said he would do the dmsa a few rounds before adding the ala into > the regime. This is because ala can bind to the mercury and can cross the > brain, then the mercury can be redeposited into the brain ,thus it better to > remove the mercury in the body( excluding the brain) first before adding > ALA. > Does this make sense? Some people believe this, yes. It does make some sense, altho I don't know how often it may happen. I used only ALA and never saw anything that indicated that problem. > I am also in favour of doing just ALA since I have concern about dmsa > stressing the liver..but after reading my doctor's reply, I don't really > know now.. Milk thistle and taurine can help support the liver. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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