Re: Whats the maximum ALA/DMSA dosage one can take?

[Guest guest]

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> I went through two days on 400mg dmsa and 400mg ALA every 3-4hours,

> side effects were there but they were managable. I wonder if this can

> be continued

I never used DMSA. The most I have taken, is 100mg ALA 3x per day.

It did cause a bit of demineralization, so I don't think I will ever

go higher than that.

Dana

[Guest guest]

ok thanks. does anyone has some data on the maximum dose here?

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> > I went through two days on 400mg dmsa and 400mg ALA every 3-4hours,

> > side effects were there but they were managable. I wonder if this can

> > be continued

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> I never used DMSA. The most I have taken, is 100mg ALA 3x per day.

> It did cause a bit of demineralization, so I don't think I will ever

> go higher than that.

>

> Dana

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[Guest guest]

Do you understand that it is not the amount that heals you, it's the

continual dosing that leaves the chelator in your bloodstream over

several days that does the work?

It is harmful to stir up more metals than you can eliminate. Also,

the larger the dose, the more likely you have bad side effects and

mineral depletion. The dose recommendation here is usually 1/8 to

1/4 mg. per pound body weight taken every 3 hours (ALA) or 4 hours

(DMSA) over a period of 3 days and then taking 4 to 11 days off.

Supplements are also spread out over time to replace vitamins and

minerals lost during chelation.

Higher doses cause stress on the body and make it less efficient in

eliminating the toxins. Most of us follow the Andy Cutler protocol,

you can read about it in the files section.

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> > > I went through two days on 400mg dmsa and 400mg ALA every 3-

4hours,

> > > side effects were there but they were managable. I wonder if

this can

> > > be continued

> >

> >

> > I never used DMSA. The most I have taken, is 100mg ALA 3x per

day.

> > It did cause a bit of demineralization, so I don't think I will

ever

> > go higher than that.

> >

> > Dana

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The maximum dose I have ever seen on freqent dose chelation is about

100mg of ala or dmsa. But those are in people who have been chelating

for a long time and worked up to that dose. No one started on that

without feeling pretty horrible.

I would suspect problems would arise if those doses were continued for

too long. Any reason for not using less to begin with??

Such as 50mg of each for an adult?

I use both dmsa and ala and take 25mg of dmsa and 16mg of ala. Any

higher and the effects are harder to manage at this point.

You could try running this by some on frequent dose group (adult

group). Some of the adults there might have more insight because some

of them tried doing things like this before they went to using lower

doses. Andy does say the key is the timing of the chelators more so

than the dose. I can't say I'd personally recommend anyone take that

much to begin with.

-- In , " lifesynthesis " <fx5566@...> wrote:

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> ok thanks. does anyone has some data on the maximum dose here?

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> > > I went through two days on 400mg dmsa and 400mg ALA every 3-4hours,

> > > side effects were there but they were managable. I wonder if

this can

> > > be continued

> >

> >

> > I never used DMSA. The most I have taken, is 100mg ALA 3x per day.

> > It did cause a bit of demineralization, so I don't think I will ever

> > go higher than that.

> >

> > Dana

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>

[Guest guest]

In his " Hair Test Interpretation " book Andy says not to go above 1

mg/lb/dose.

J

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> I went through two days on 400mg dmsa and 400mg ALA every 3-4hours,

> side effects were there but they were managable. I wonder if this can

> be continued

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[Guest guest]

What if you consistently go above that. I'm doing higher than that

because I can take the side effects

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> > I went through two days on 400mg dmsa and 400mg ALA every 3-4hours,

> > side effects were there but they were managable. I wonder if this can

> > be continued

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[Guest guest]

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> > In his " Hair Test Interpretation " book Andy says not to go above 1

> > mg/lb/dose.

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> > J

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[Guest guest]

I am fairly sure the risks were displacement, but wow....my son took almost a

year to build up to 100mg of each ala and dmsa. The risks of higher doses could

be related to chelators depleting minerals faster at a higher dose than you

could replace them. I don't know. Andy says not to go over 1mg per lb. No one

on the list has done it like you are talking about if you mean taking doses of

400mg every three hours because you can take it. Andy's method is all about low

and slow. My autistic kid could not have done it any faster or at any higher

dose than what we did and we went at a breakneck speed. It sounds like a

question for Andy to me.

[Guest guest]

We are three almost three years and 52 rounds into this at dosing at

20mg dmsa 16mg ala because this is the upper dose for my son's weight.

I saw no reason to push the limits when he dose well dosing for his

weight. My older child and myself take 25mg dmsa/16mg ala, and we

slowly build up to that. The idea is to have very minimal side effects

on rounds. Not what you can tolerate.

You should check over on frequent dose about using 400mg every three

hours. Some of the adults can do higher doses, but they don't have

side effects to tolerate. My understanding is that if you have side

effects, even tolerable...the dose it too high. I have no side effects

on a round, unless I raise my dose higher than I am ready for. I

figure I still have to chelate over a few years, so no hurry.

-- In , " Axe " <badaboom@...> wrote:

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> I am fairly sure the risks were displacement, but wow....my son took

almost a year to build up to 100mg of each ala and dmsa. The risks of

higher doses could be related to chelators depleting minerals faster

at a higher dose than you could replace them. I don't know. Andy

says not to go over 1mg per lb. No one on the list has done it like

you are talking about if you mean taking doses of 400mg every three

hours because you can take it. Andy's method is all about low and

slow. My autistic kid could not have done it any faster or at any

higher dose than what we did and we went at a breakneck speed. It

sounds like a question for Andy to me.

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[Guest guest]

The dosage is flexible, but the smart answer is what and Jan are doing -

don't

torture yourself or your kid!

Jacking the dose up does NOT greatly increase metal clearance.

There are lots of possible subjective side effects that are pretty miserable -

why risk

putting your kid through them?

If it is for you or your kid is lucid and communicative, you can decide how much

you want

to put up with, but I don't suggest making it too rough.

Andy

www.noamalgam.com/hairtestbook.html

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> > I am fairly sure the risks were displacement, but wow....my son took

> almost a year to build up to 100mg of each ala and dmsa. The risks of

> higher doses could be related to chelators depleting minerals faster

> at a higher dose than you could replace them. I don't know. Andy

> says not to go over 1mg per lb. No one on the list has done it like

> you are talking about if you mean taking doses of 400mg every three

> hours because you can take it. Andy's method is all about low and

> slow. My autistic kid could not have done it any faster or at any

> higher dose than what we did and we went at a breakneck speed. It

> sounds like a question for Andy to me.

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