JAN

February 25, 2003

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Oooo Jan you said it! I am soo glad to have BfL. Now that somethings

are straighented out for me, it is a bit easier to focus on working

really hard and having fun with this program. I do love this board.

Although I can be obnoxiously over the top sometimes, everyone still

lufts ya! My brain likes to do roadblocks too, I just crash through

at this time in my life. Gotta do what ya gotta do. You are very well

spoken. I mean I like your views!

Kathi (who's just another name)

In , jeahere <no_reply@y...>

wrote:

>

> Kathi,

> Glad you liked the reference. It's how I view with living with a

> brain that puts up roadblocks to success. But you're right.

Everyone

> has " elephants " . Sometimes they're internal (mood disorders, eating

> disorders, etc.) and sometimes they're external (loved ones and

pets

> dying, financial worries, etc.).That's the thing that's great about

> this board is that everyone can " out " their problems. That, and we

> all feel lucky that we've got BFL to give us a framework for at

least

> one of our problems ;-)

> Jan

>

> > > Hey Kathi,

> > > I just wanted to say that I salute you. Life is a journey and

for

> > > those of us who deal with mood disorders it's kind of like

doing

> > the

> > > journey while " Pushing an elephant up the stairs " *

> > > Jan

> > >

> > > *The Great Beyond - R.E.M.

> > > http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/lyricness/lyrics/thegreatbeyond.htm

March 14, 2003

Question~ If you know enough to not vaccinate, then why are you agreeing to

an induction?

LOL, I knew I'd get shit for this ....

because my baby is at risk for staying inside. I have high blood pressure and

gestational diabetes. He has too much fluid. His non stress tests have sucked

for the last 3 weeks. That and the fluid is what sent us to the Perinatologist

last week.

I realize Pitocin has chemicals. It also has mercury, but I will not take the

risk of a still birth based on my medical history. That's unfair to me, the

daddy and the baby. I will likely end up with cervidil (will NOT get cytotec)

..... I am doing RRL tea, and starting Evening Primrose Oil tomorrow. My oldest

came 37 weeks, my water broke on it's own, he wasn't even close to being ready,

I was 0 high and tottally closed when my water broke ... his delivery was a

nightmare from hell, but he nursed well, his lungs were fine. We're not

delivering until we're sure this little guys lungs are ready. I am secure in

our decision based on the fact that he will be better off growing outside than

inside.

They already know that I will labor for as long as needed not to even try to

push me for a c-section. My doula is totally supportive of our decision to go

with the specialists recommendations. She has experience helping mom's being

induced, so I am pretty sure I can do this without the epidural (I DO NOT want

another lumbar puncture - last one for a discogram left me with a 4 day loss in

time due to spinal headache)

I wanted very much for this to be as natural as possible, but God obviously has

other plans. I'm still hoping to go into labor on my own in the next 2 weeks

(which would put me somewhat early) This is a far cry from what I really

wanted. I wanted to labor at home ... but with high blood pressure, that's just

not safe, I am practical if nothing else.

I really appreciate the concern, I can only do what I feel is safest for my son

and for me. The diabetes doesn't concern me near as much as the blood pressure.

I asked for the induction based on the specialists recommendations. I actually

am pushing to be in there for the amnio a week before they want to do it. I'd

rather be safe than sorry.

March 14, 2003

~

Now that you've explained more, I understand :-) I'm sorry you aren't

getting the labor/birth you originally wanted, I know from experience how

badly that sucks ;-) Good luck!

Jan

March 14, 2003

I was induced with my last baby. It was also due to high blood pressure.

I received prostaglandin gel in the hospital (I was already dilated to 3 cms

before labor started so that helped things along tremendously!!)

The gel got me to 5 cms and then the doctor broke my water. I never needed

pitocin and never had any pain medication.

My doula was great!! All told, the labor was my easiest one. She was born

in one contraction, two pushes, and I had no episiotomy. (I did need two

stitches afterward, because I had a compound presentation -- her hand came

out along side of her head.)

She was also my biggest baby, despite being born a week early, at 8lbs 3ozs.

Good luck with your upcoming birth!!

Re: Jan

> Question~ If you know enough to not vaccinate, then why are you agreeing

to

> an induction?

>

> LOL, I knew I'd get shit for this ....

>

> because my baby is at risk for staying inside. I have high blood pressure

and gestational diabetes. He has too much fluid. His non stress tests have

sucked for the last 3 weeks. That and the fluid is what sent us to the

Perinatologist last week.

>

> I realize Pitocin has chemicals. It also has mercury, but I will not take

the risk of a still birth based on my medical history. That's unfair to me,

the daddy and the baby. I will likely end up with cervidil (will NOT get

cytotec) .... I am doing RRL tea, and starting Evening Primrose Oil

tomorrow. My oldest came 37 weeks, my water broke on it's own, he wasn't

even close to being ready, I was 0 high and tottally closed when my water

broke ... his delivery was a nightmare from hell, but he nursed well, his

lungs were fine. We're not delivering until we're sure this little guys

lungs are ready. I am secure in our decision based on the fact that he will

be better off growing outside than inside.

>

> They already know that I will labor for as long as needed not to even try

to push me for a c-section. My doula is totally supportive of our decision

to go with the specialists recommendations. She has experience helping mom's

being induced, so I am pretty sure I can do this without the epidural (I DO

NOT want another lumbar puncture - last one for a discogram left me with a 4

day loss in time due to spinal headache)

>

> I wanted very much for this to be as natural as possible, but God

obviously has other plans. I'm still hoping to go into labor on my own in

the next 2 weeks (which would put me somewhat early) This is a far cry from

what I really wanted. I wanted to labor at home ... but with high blood

pressure, that's just not safe, I am practical if nothing else.

>

> I really appreciate the concern, I can only do what I feel is safest for

my son and for me. The diabetes doesn't concern me near as much as the

blood pressure. I asked for the induction based on the specialists

recommendations. I actually am pushing to be in there for the amnio a week

before they want to do it. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

>

March 14, 2003

,

It's the prostaglandins in Omega 3 which will induce the delivery when the

body thinks its the right time. It should also reduce the pain.

If you up the EPO you should definately up the Omega 3.