Guest guest Posted September 20, 2000 Report Share Posted September 20, 2000 I have found MSM incredibly helpful with chronic tendonitis, proteolytic enzymes added for the acute. Also, cross fiber massage with IMPAC's Percussor to release adhesions in the chronic tendonitis patient, particularly hips and shoulders is very, very helpful. In fact, I don't think a lot of chronic tendonitis problems will ever clear well if the adhesive tissue hasn't been released. Finally, Jaco sells the Bandit tennis/golfer's elbow support which is unique. I use it on all epicondylitis patients with great results. Hope this helps. S. Feinberg, D.C. jhp wrote: > > Listers, > > Your opinion and knowledge: > > Why is it that many cases of tendonitis sem so intransigent, so stubborn, so > long-standing? > > Is it that the patient simply does NOT or CAN NOT let the injury rest > sufficiently to heal as quickly as it would? If truly rested would the > injury heal much more quickly? > > Or is there something about the inflammatory sequelae of tendonitis that is > necessarily long lasting, even with proper and optimal rest? > > Also, have you found any measures PARTICULARLY helpful, across the board, > with tendonitis? Digestive enzymes? Microcurrent? Stretches? Turmeric? > Ultrasound? > > Mucho thankolas. > > Terry in Ashland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2000 Report Share Posted October 1, 2000 Tendonitis is indeed tough.I'll sspeak specifically to elbow tendonitis. In relation to the elbow, The BAND- IT, as mentioned by les feinberg, was a godsend for me and for many of my patients. I had a tennis elbow for 18 months, which finally slowly began to resolve when I started to use the Band-it, I had tried several other braces before this. Why do elbow braces work? My best understanding of this is that the continual strain of using the extensor muscles cause a micro-avulsion, a tearing of the tendons or small fibers of these, at the lateral epicondyle, which has a poor leverage. The band-it creates a new fulcrum, a pull, or a pulley, just below the elbow joint, thus taking the load off the epicondyle, and allowing the necessary rest for this area to begin to heal. PS- another thing to look at, of course, is the spine, you will frequently find an anterior lower cervical, especially at C6, neurologically contributing to muscle weakness, and affecting the elbow, and of course the lower arm I have also found that Active Release to the wrist extensors can be very valuable in the elbow area. I also have seen many patients helped by Frequency Specific Microcurrent, as developed here is Oregon, by Carolyn McMakin, DC. She teaches this work in Portland Marc Heller TENDONITIS Listers, Your opinion and knowledge: Why is it that many cases of tendonitis sem so intransigent, so stubborn, so long-standing? Is it that the patient simply does NOT or CAN NOT let the injury rest sufficiently to heal as quickly as it would? If truly rested would the injury heal much more quickly? Or is there something about the inflammatory sequelae of tendonitis that is necessarily long lasting, even with proper and optimal rest? Also, have you found any measures PARTICULARLY helpful, across the board, with tendonitis? Digestive enzymes? Microcurrent? Stretches? Turmeric? Ultrasound? Mucho thankolas. Terry in Ashland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 In a message dated 9/4/2004 4:44:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cherylhcmba@... writes: Any success stories out there with treating similar problems? I did a stupid and carried some heavy bags in Atlanta airport. I was tired so I think I let my arms hang causing the bags to pull on my shoulder joints. Boy, was I sorry. I couldn't raise my arms above my shoulders, couldn't scrub my back, couldn't pick anything up without searing pain, etc. I don't know if it was tendonitis, bursitis, or not but it sure was painful when I had to carry things. I just stayed on the diet, took an occasional aspirin if the pain got too bad, and waited to heal. Took about 6 months for them to be good as new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 In a message dated 9/4/2004 4:32:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, cherylhcmba@... writes: My son says I need to empty out my handbag. He's probably right. Your son IS right. I had a physical therapist tell me women should NOT use shoulder bags, even switching shoulders isn't good. Said to carry your bag tucked to either side, like you'd carry a " clutch " bag. But lightening the load would help, or consider one of those " backpack " handbags. Also, I've had tendonitis in my elbow and wrist (at different times, thank goodness) and I was able to wear braces; purchased them at pharmacy and grocery stores. I've never seen one for shoulders, but never looked either. Icing on a regular basis helps, too. Soft tissue injuries take a long time to heal, but mine eventually did. Hope yours does. Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 cherylhcmba wrote: > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > similar problems? I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also helps. Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one I like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post here. (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than drugs, there are several options along with substituting good prostaglandins in fish oil: Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka hu zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach and acts where you need it.] Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin (which is why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti-inflammatory ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't use it a while :-) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Hi Cheryl, Last year after sailing season, I developed a really bad case of carpal tunnel syndrome in my right hand. By Nov. I could hardly feel my 3 fingers and there was pain going up my arm, especially by the end of the day. I followed doctor's orders for taking anti-inflammatories everyday and nothing changed, it didn't even stop the pain at night. A naturopath recommended taking 250 mg. of Bromelain 3 times a day between meals and 100 mg. of B6 each day. I found capsules at the HFS that had Turmeric 300 mg. (which I knew was an antiinflamatory) and Bromelain 150 mg. together. So I started taking 1-100mg. B6 and 5 of the Turmeric-Bromelain capsules throughout the day. Within a month I could feel a difference. By April it was about 90% better. I was afraid that sailing would bring it back this year, but it hasn't. The last few months I have continued to take the B6 but only 2 a day of Turmeric-Bromelain. I am now 95% better without having to take prescription anit-inflammatories that the doctor was recommending. Regards, Sharon (Ontario) Canada Tendonitis Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating similar problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > Last year after sailing season, I developed a really bad case of carpal tunnel Hi Sharon, My jaw dropped - I thought I was the only one with carpal tunnel from sailing :-)) I damaged my tendons very badly one day when I was invited to skipper for a race on a friend's boat. My own sailboat had a tiller, but this one had a wheel, and I was at the helm in rough weather for 12 hours straight " wiggling " sharply at the right point of each wave to ease over without spilling wind. The swells off Cape Town are rough (not called " Cape of Storms " for nothing). I was having a ball and was rather sore but uncaring about it by the end of the race. But the *next* day I was in agony. I too tried the allopathic approach including several rounds of cortisone injections into the tendon bumps that are all the way along my arm from wrist to elbow. No luck. I could no longer play the piano either - especially not a " trill " (where you alternate 2 notes fast). It was years later I found homeopathy a solution for me. But the tendonitis still comes to visit sometimes and the pineapple juice, turmeric, ginger and green tea approach works for me. I think the pineapple juice is the most relevant, then the ginger. > syndrome in my right hand. By Nov. I could hardly feel my 3 fingers > and there was pain going up my arm, especially by the end of the day. We retain water during the day - and that's what makes it get worse during the day - apart from using it instead of resting. Tendons slide up and down inside a sheath - it's when they stick in the sheath due to swelling or inflammation bumps, that it hurts. And each time they stick they get more irritated and swell a bit more. Mine still are bumpy and they click and are noisy at times but they don't hurt any more unless I am especially bloated with edema. > I was afraid that sailing would bring it back this year, but it hasn't. I was also afraid to use mine but it works okay as long as I don't overdo it. What we do to ourselves in the name of sport :-)) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Irene, Have you checked on New Chapter's Zyflamend? It has Rosemary 150 mg, Tumeric 110 mg., Ginger 100 mg., Holy Basil (leaf) extract 100 mg., Green Tea (leaf) extract 100 mg., Hu Zang ( root and rhizome) extract 80 mg., Chinese Goldthread (root) extract 40 mg., Barberry (root) extract 40 mg., Oregano (leaf) supercritical extract 40 mg., Scutellaria baicalensis 20 mg. I was wondering if this might help tendonitis. It seems to help my knees when they get too achey. It also claims to be a 2 inhibitor. Re: Tendonitis > > > cherylhcmba wrote: > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > > similar problems? > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also helps. > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one I > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post here. > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > prostaglandins in fish oil: > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka hu > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach and > acts where you need it.] > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin (which is > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti-inflammatory > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't use it > a while :-) > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Sharon, May you continue to improve, as I know your work is on the computer and you have to keep working. Tendonitis > > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > similar problems? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 I've been waiting to heal for a few years (LOL). It's gotten worse lately. May have originally started from carrying a shoulder bag that would fall off. It doesn't help that I'm pretty much tethered to the computer all day. Considering moving the mouse to the left side. When I'm not, the bench work I do involves repetitive pipetting. I do tissue culture based assays to look at product safety. I took Alleve occasionally as you said when it got too bad. My doctor was so surprised when I said I was off all meds. He said you must have some problem. I didn't think an internist would be the person to talk to about a bad shoulder, but he didn't seem to know what to do without writing a prescription for something. It's gotten better at times, but I probably start using it before it's completely healed. My son says I need to empty out my handbag. He's probably right. > In a message dated 9/4/2004 4:44:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > cherylhcmba@y... writes: > Any success stories out there with treating > similar problems? > > I did a stupid and carried some heavy bags in Atlanta airport. I was tired > so I think I let my arms hang causing the bags to pull on my shoulder joints. > Boy, was I sorry. I couldn't raise my arms above my shoulders, couldn't scrub > my back, couldn't pick anything up without searing pain, etc. I don't know > if it was tendonitis, bursitis, or not but it sure was painful when I had to > carry things. I just stayed on the diet, took an occasional aspirin if the pain > got too bad, and waited to heal. Took about 6 months for them to be good as > new. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Thanks for the suggestions! Most of them are also beneficial for my weight problems. I drink 6oz. pineapple juice every day, a couple of cups of green tea and 3-4 servings of fish, but I probably need some more concentrated sources like the fish oil capsules, ginger, turmeric etc. Hadn't thought of those. > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > > similar problems? > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also helps. > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one I > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post here. > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > prostaglandins in fish oil: > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka hu > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach and > acts where you need it.] > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin (which is > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- inflammatory > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't use it > a while :-) > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Thanks, it's good to hear that it doesn't always come back. My son also has tendonitis in his hand. He's on the computer all day, plus he's a drummer so lots of repetitive stress. His doctor just told him not to use his hand for a couple of weeks, which of course he can't do. He's also O like me so should try to stay away from NSAIDs. > Hi Cheryl, > > Last year after sailing season, I developed a really bad case of carpal tunnel syndrome in my right hand. By Nov. I could hardly feel my 3 fingers and there was pain going up my arm, especially by the end of the day. > > I followed doctor's orders for taking anti-inflammatories everyday and nothing changed, it didn't even stop the pain at night. > > A naturopath recommended taking 250 mg. of Bromelain 3 times a day between meals and 100 mg. of B6 each day. I found capsules at the HFS that had Turmeric 300 mg. (which I knew was an antiinflamatory) and Bromelain 150 mg. together. So I started taking 1-100mg. B6 and 5 of the Turmeric-Bromelain capsules throughout the day. Within a month I could feel a difference. By April it was about 90% better. > > I was afraid that sailing would bring it back this year, but it hasn't. The last few months I have continued to take the B6 but only 2 a day of Turmeric-Bromelain. > > I am now 95% better without having to take prescription anit- inflammatories that the doctor was recommending. > > Regards, > Sharon (Ontario) Canada > Tendonitis > > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > similar problems? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Ahoy Irene, I think that the sailing made it worse to the point of noticing it. Before last summer I had always been able to ignore it. I think it is mainly from working on the computer all the time, but pulling up the sails really got it going. I couldn't give up sailing. Being on the water in the summer is the only thing that gets me through the winter. Regards, Sharon (Ontario) Canada Re: Tendonitis Sharon Ferris wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > Last year after sailing season, I developed a really bad case of carpal tunnel Hi Sharon, My jaw dropped - I thought I was the only one with carpal tunnel from sailing :-)) I damaged my tendons very badly one day when I was invited to skipper for a race on a friend's boat. My own sailboat had a tiller, but this one had a wheel, and I was at the helm in rough weather for 12 hours straight " wiggling " sharply at the right point of each wave to ease over without spilling wind. The swells off Cape Town are rough (not called " Cape of Storms " for nothing). I was having a ball and was rather sore but uncaring about it by the end of the race. But the *next* day I was in agony. I too tried the allopathic approach including several rounds of cortisone injections into the tendon bumps that are all the way along my arm from wrist to elbow. No luck. I could no longer play the piano either - especially not a " trill " (where you alternate 2 notes fast). It was years later I found homeopathy a solution for me. But the tendonitis still comes to visit sometimes and the pineapple juice, turmeric, ginger and green tea approach works for me. I think the pineapple juice is the most relevant, then the ginger. > syndrome in my right hand. By Nov. I could hardly feel my 3 fingers > and there was pain going up my arm, especially by the end of the day. We retain water during the day - and that's what makes it get worse during the day - apart from using it instead of resting. Tendons slide up and down inside a sheath - it's when they stick in the sheath due to swelling or inflammation bumps, that it hurts. And each time they stick they get more irritated and swell a bit more. Mine still are bumpy and they click and are noisy at times but they don't hurt any more unless I am especially bloated with edema. > I was afraid that sailing would bring it back this year, but it hasn't. I was also afraid to use mine but it works okay as long as I don't overdo it. What we do to ourselves in the name of sport :-)) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Thanks, . It was really hard to work on the computer when it was really bad. I wore a brace as well and it did nothing except stopping me from bending it too much. Regards, Sharon Tendonitis > > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > similar problems? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Irene, How much pineapple juice do you have per day when you're having an episode of the tendonitis? Cheryl > > Hi Cheryl, > > > > Last year after sailing season, I developed a really bad case of carpal tunnel > > Hi Sharon, > My jaw dropped - I thought I was the only one with carpal tunnel from > sailing :-)) > I damaged my tendons very badly one day when I was invited to skipper > for a race on a friend's boat. My own sailboat had a tiller, but this > one had a wheel, and I was at the helm in rough weather for 12 hours > straight " wiggling " sharply at the right point of each wave to ease over > without spilling wind. The swells off Cape Town are rough (not called > " Cape of Storms " for nothing). I was having a ball and was rather sore > but uncaring about it by the end of the race. But the *next* day I was > in agony. > > I too tried the allopathic approach including several rounds of > cortisone injections into the tendon bumps that are all the way along my > arm from wrist to elbow. No luck. I could no longer play the piano > either - especially not a " trill " (where you alternate 2 notes fast). > It was years later I found homeopathy a solution for me. But the > tendonitis still comes to visit sometimes and the pineapple juice, > turmeric, ginger and green tea approach works for me. I think the > pineapple juice is the most relevant, then the ginger. > > > syndrome in my right hand. By Nov. I could hardly feel my 3 fingers > > and there was pain going up my arm, especially by the end of the day. > > We retain water during the day - and that's what makes it get worse > during the day - apart from using it instead of resting. Tendons slide > up and down inside a sheath - it's when they stick in the sheath due to > swelling or inflammation bumps, that it hurts. And each time they stick > they get more irritated and swell a bit more. Mine still are bumpy and > they click and are noisy at times but they don't hurt any more unless I > am especially bloated with edema. > > > I was afraid that sailing would bring it back this year, but it hasn't. > > I was also afraid to use mine but it works okay as long as I don't > overdo it. > What we do to ourselves in the name of sport :-)) > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 I had good experience with Boswellia when my back was having trouble healing. It wasn't as powerful for the pain as Advil, but it helped with the inflammation. - Re: Tendonitis Thanks for the suggestions! Most of them are also beneficial for my weight problems. I drink 6oz. pineapple juice every day, a couple of cups of green tea and 3-4 servings of fish, but I probably need some more concentrated sources like the fish oil capsules, ginger, turmeric etc. Hadn't thought of those. > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > > similar problems? > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also helps. > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one I > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post here. > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > prostaglandins in fish oil: > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka hu > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach and > acts where you need it.] > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin (which is > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- inflammatory > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't use it > a while :-) > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 I have plantar fascitis and I've been taking alieve 2x/day. Is that probably the worst thing I can be doing (it's the only thing that's worked in 3 years)? What *SHOULD* I be doing? (I'm new at this, btw - trying to adjust what I'm currently doing with type o) ;-) Ellen Re: Tendonitis > > > Thanks for the suggestions! Most of them are also beneficial for my > weight problems. I drink 6oz. pineapple juice every day, a couple of > cups of green tea and 3-4 servings of fish, but I probably need some > more concentrated sources like the fish oil capsules, ginger, > turmeric etc. Hadn't thought of those. > > > > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me > Bextra, a > > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, > but > > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine > sulphate as > > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a > recurring > > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with > treating > > > similar problems? > > > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also > helps. > > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one > I > > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post > here. > > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > > prostaglandins in fish oil: > > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka > hu > > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach > and > > acts where you need it.] > > > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin > (which is > > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- > inflammatory > > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't > use it > > a while :-) > > Namaste, > > Irene > > -- > > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Tendons - MANGANESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Re: Tendonitis Thanks for the suggestions! Most of them are also beneficial for my weight problems. I drink 6oz. pineapple juice every day, a couple of cups of green tea and 3-4 servings of fish, but I probably need some more concentrated sources like the fish oil capsules, ginger, turmeric etc. Hadn't thought of those. > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > > similar problems? > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also helps. > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one I > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post here. > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > prostaglandins in fish oil: > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka hu > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach and > acts where you need it.] > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin (which is > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- inflammatory > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't use it > a while :-) > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 That's also something pineapple juice provides, along with the Bromelain. Too bad it's so sweet, I tend to have to dilute it. Re: Tendonitis Thanks for the suggestions! Most of them are also beneficial for my weight problems. I drink 6oz. pineapple juice every day, a couple of cups of green tea and 3-4 servings of fish, but I probably need some more concentrated sources like the fish oil capsules, ginger, turmeric etc. Hadn't thought of those. > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > > similar problems? > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also helps. > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one I > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post here. > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > prostaglandins in fish oil: > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka hu > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach and > acts where you need it.] > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin (which is > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- inflammatory > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't use it > a while :-) > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2004 Report Share Posted September 4, 2004 Ok - Vitamin Power's manganese tabs ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com Re: Tendonitis Thanks for the suggestions! Most of them are also beneficial for my weight problems. I drink 6oz. pineapple juice every day, a couple of cups of green tea and 3-4 servings of fish, but I probably need some more concentrated sources like the fish oil capsules, ginger, turmeric etc. Hadn't thought of those. > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me Bextra, a > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, but > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine sulphate as > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a recurring > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with treating > > similar problems? > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also helps. > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one I > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post here. > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > prostaglandins in fish oil: > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka hu > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach and > acts where you need it.] > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin (which is > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- inflammatory > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't use it > a while :-) > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 cherylhcmba wrote: > Thanks for the suggestions! You are welcome. By the way does your mouse pad have a gel wrist pad? I'd be lost without mine. It's a place to rest your wrist (so you do not have to hold it up) while you use mouse clicks, and it keeps the wrist still. Made by Fellowes, I got mine at Office Depot. Pictures here: old model as I have: http://www.dealexpress.biz/product/98741 wider newer model comes in green, red, purple...: http://www.dealexpress.biz/product/91641 Also is your desk at the proper right angles? There should be 90 degrees between upper arm and forearm, not more nor less - your chair or desk height should be adjusted accordingly. Have you tried a backpack instead of a purse? You can get some nice looking ones. Else at least put the strap over your head on the opposite shoulder, and swap sides as needed. Keep a duplicate set of stuff at work, so you do not have to lug it about in your purse and lighten up :-)) It would be quite a trick to pipette with your left hand I presume, may be worth practising? I imagine it would slow you down considerably for some time - rather like me learning to type instead of using 4 fingers as I do :-) asked: > Have you checked on New Chapter's Zyflamend? I've not seen it no, but the ingredients look good. Sharon said: > I think it is mainly from working on the computer all the time, but > pulling up the sails really got it going. > I couldn't give up sailing. Being on the water in the summer is the > only thing that gets me through the winter. I shall have to remain jealous, I don't have my sailboat any more, and I sure miss sailing. Computers must be causing no end of tendonitis cases! I'm okay these days as long as I don't overdo it. Actually I was 100% till this more recent illness that comes with so much edema - before that I was fine. The edema seems to know exactly where I have a weakness :-) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 THOMAS DEKANY wrote: > Tendons - MANGANESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best food source being pineapple juice :-)) ....Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 > > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me > Bextra, a > > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, > but > > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine > sulphate as > > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a > recurring > > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with > treating > > > similar problems? > > > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also > helps. > > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one > I > > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post > here. > > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > > prostaglandins in fish oil: > > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka > hu > > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach > and > > acts where you need it.] > > > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin > (which is > > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- > inflammatory > > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't > use it > > a while :-) > > Namaste, > > Irene > > -- > > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Thanks, I'll concentrate on pineapple juice and watermelon as well as bananas for potassium to help this along. That's the kind of " medicine " I like. I can easily reach directly overhead now, so at least I will probably not need cortisone injections. I think I would refuse those until trying alternative methods. I read that weakens the tendons pretty quickly. Thanks also for mentioning to avoid edema (wheat for me). Makes good sense and will give me another incentive to stay away from that important avoid. I've been doing the mailbag style shoulder bag for a while, which is how I've tolerated the problem for so long. Your idea of keeping duplicate items at work is probably the best solution. I carry a makeup bag that I never use except for a lipstick. I park a half mile away for a short walk to and from so it's not like I'm just popping a few feet from car to desk. Then of course I usually lug a grocery bag of foods to make lunches, since I have access to a large refrigerator here. I have a gel wrist pad, but our company has the working scientist concept where your office is in a lab, so it's extremely unergonomic, not designed as an office. I have a robot that I've " trained " to do some of the repetitive things, need to write some more applications, but some things the robot just can't do, like tilt a plate and aim a tip to the corner to completely aspirate a sample. > > Irene, > > How much pineapple juice do you have per day when you're having an > > episode of the tendonitis? > > Hi Cheryl, > > Not too much because of the sugar content. Maybe two glasses. And a > lot of watermelon seems to help me too. I tend to use all the items I > know about combined - for example I often add turmeric and ginger to my > food. > > I also find that sticking to BTD in terms of avoiding wheat and corn > completely, does help. For example I tried picking out the pasta pieces > from a dish I was eating where that was the only problem recently - and > there was enough of whatever causes the trouble left in the food to > definitely cause inflammation. > > I do use homeopathy if it gets bad, and for me Causticum 200C works > well, but you might need a different remedy, as the remedy needs to be > matched to the individual to work well. > Namaste, > Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Bingo, you win the prize. Copied from ' article. These were targeted for August so maybe they'll come out soon. Phloxicin features Boswellia, Irene's ginger in there too, Connectivar features manganese as suggested. Sounds like the Phloxicin would be my first choice. " The second is Phloxicin® designed by Dr. D'Adamo " to maintain joint health and flexibility. " The product comprises another unique formulation that includes (per serving size of two capsules) Boswellia serrata Resin Extract (Standardized to 70% Organic Acids and 20% Beta Boswellic Acid) 300 mg, L-Histidine 200mg, Ginger Oil (from Zingiber officinale Root) 100 mg, and Polygonum cuspidatum Root 100 mg. Boswellia serrata Resin Extract serves as an antioxidant, and in preliminary research extracts show anti-inflammatory and anti- arthritis effects. L-Histidine is an important amino acid usually found to be deficient in cases of arthritis. It may prove beneficial in reducing inflammation associated with joint disease or injury. L-Histidine also promotes growth and repair of tissue, helps protect nerve cells, and aids in the production of blood cells. Ginger oil helps to reduce inflammatory conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis, apparently by inhibiting cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways. Polygonum cuspidatum Root, a member of the buckwheat family, contains resveratrol, which has been shown to demonstrate antioxidant, anti- inflammatory, and analgesic activity. The third new product is Connectivar®, designed by Dr. D'Adamo " to help maintain blood vessel, capillary, and ligament strength. " Once again this formula comprises a unique combination of ingredients to include (per serving size of one capsule) Manganese (from Manganese Picolinate) 3 mg, Butchers Broom Root Extract (from Ruscus aculeatus, Standardized to 10% Ruscogenins) 100 mg, Rutin- Hesperidin Complex 50 mg, and Gotu Kola Leaf Extract (from Centella asiatica, Standardized to 10% Asiaticsides) 30 mg. Manganese helps support ligament strength and helps to stabilize the joints. Butchers Broom Root Extract appears to have a protective effect on capillaries, vascular endothelium, and smooth muscle. The flavanoid content in Butchers broom appears to help strengthen blood vessels, lessen capillary fragility, and sustain healthy circulation. Butchers Broom appears to have venotonic properties that reduce venous capacity and pooling of blood in the legs. Taking Butchers broom alone or in combination with vitamin C and hesperidin seems to relieve chronic venous insufficiency symptoms, including pain, heaviness, leg cramps, itching, and swelling. " > > > Well, I just got off all drugs, now my doctor has given me > Bextra, a > > > cox-2 inhibitor, for tendonitis in my shoulders. I'll try it, > but > > > I'm already looking at bromelain and possibly glucosamine > sulphate as > > > alternative treatments. I'm sure this will be at least a > recurring > > > problem if not chronic. Any success stories out there with > treating > > > similar problems? > > > > I have treated my own tendonitis with homeopathy, but diet also > helps. > > Avoid anything that causes you edema, add in more potassium to help. > > Your idea of alternatives to drugs for cox-2 inhibitors is one > I > > like. I posted a few natural cox-2 inhibitors in a recent post > here. > > (9-2-04), I'll quote it here: > > [if you are looking for cox-2 (prostaglandin-)inhibitors other than > > drugs, there are several options along with substituting good > > prostaglandins in fish oil: > > Green tea, turmeric (contains curcumin), polygonum cuspidaturn (aka > hu > > zhang), and ginger extract (for example Zinaxin). > > Zinaxin is really good as it has a coating to get past the stomach > and > > acts where you need it.] > > > > Fish oil helps as it replaces the inflammatory prostaglandin > (which is > > why you take the cox-2 inhibitor) with a couple of anti- > inflammatory > > ones. Natural source of bromelain is pineapple/juice. > > > > Hope it's better soon. It helps to rest an injured tendon, don't > use it > > a while :-) > > Namaste, > > Irene > > -- > > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom. > > P.O.Box 4703, Spokane, WA 99220-0703. > > http://www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html > > Veterinary Homeopath and Feline Information Counsellor. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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