Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Has anyone had any relief using a tanning bed, i was just sitting here thinking i used to feel so good after i would go tanning , Another ? is costrocondritis a symptom of pa? thanks for all of your input on my lawyer's " pa " i may just be jealous he is doing so well, i am having pain in my chest and under my left shoulder blade bad its even going up the back of my neck i am sure this is costrocondritis forgive my spelling when i stretch it hurts my entire ribcage plus i have been to the er with the same pain a few months back and that was my diag, they gave me toradal i think, i felt much better that nite might have to go do that again, my md is out this week on vaction Grrr john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Costochondritis was my first sympton of PA. It was quite painful and I thought I was having heart problems. It did however, cement my decision to quit cigarettes. I quit smokes and that's when my skin and joints began to act up. It took about a year but I finally got a diagnosis. I always thought when you quit smoking that your health was supposed to improve. LOL! " sclancee " <sclancee@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi , Most winters, I try to get off to a warm climate and have gone tanning prior to avoid being pasty white. For me, REAL sun does help my skin, but didn't do much for my PA. Tanning beds/booths did not seem to help my skin much, nor did it help my PA. I should mention, I'm Sicilian, I tan easily and spend many hours in the sun all summer. While I'm controlling my PA very well with MTX, each fall when I stop spending so much time outdoors, I can feel different joints, get a bit creaky, just begging to flare. Most of the time if I avoid doing anything that could compound the creaks, I'm just fine. It's not scientific, and I can't document it, but Real Sunlight seems to be a positive for me. Each winter, after a all too brief jaunt to the warmer climes I do feel better. Psychological? maybe, but if it works, don't fight it. Plus, I'll go to my grave telling my friends and family that my winter trips are therapy for my PA and couldn't possibly give them up! Stay Well, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi do you get sick from the sun and the methotrexate? I think my doc told me to stay Out of the sun with it? I'm Sicilian to and I miss the sun lol. Jolene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 > I will start smoking again if would make my pain better, I have even > heard weed helps lmao And probably taking a little rat's poison every day, drinking infected water, drinking lots of booze, and specially getting close to people infected with all sorts of contagious diseases! There is quite a lot of logic in this. PA being caused by (or at least related to) an overly active and somewhat misguided immune system, anything that reduces the activity of the immune system shoudl help. If you weaken your body, by illness or other means, the PA should indeed improve! The problem is of course that then you get all sorts of other diseases... But based on this logic, I can perfectly well believe that a heavy smoker who stops smoking might see an increase in PA, simply because his body is getting healthier overall, and that increases the activity of the immune system! I wouldn't try to smoke or to drink booze to fix my PA, but I have noticed a temporary improvement in both PA and P when I get the flu. Having something more useful to do, my immune system gives the joints and skin a rest! There is a whole theory around telling that PA and other autoimmune disorders are partly caused by modern humans living in excessively " healthy " conditions, drinking only sterilized water, eating only disinfected food, getting vaccinated against many diseases, and so on. The immune system simply has nothing to do, and gets bored. And you all know how bored kids behave! It sounds logical... Thinking about it, AIDS should be the perfect cure for PA! Or does anyone here know people who have both PA and AIDS? At least the survivability with PA is better than with AIDS. So I won't make efforts to catch the latter. Manfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Jolene, when I took MTX I had no problem with reasonable amounts of sun. I deliberately sat outside in the sun for about 15 minutes a day without sunscreen. Beyond that, I would use a good sunscreen and never had any problem. best regards, sherry z > > Hi do you get sick from the sun and the methotrexate? I think my doc told > me to stay > Out of the sun with it? I'm Sicilian to and I miss the sun lol. > Jolene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Thanks for answering. Jolene -- [ ] Re: Tanning beds Jolene, when I took MTX I had no problem with reasonable amounts of sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi Manfred, PsA is a genetic disease mostly. Stress, trauma to the body kicks it into overdrive thus causing it to attack healthy tissue. People who have HIV/AIDS are highly prone to PsA according to what I have read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Hi , > PsA is a genetic disease mostly. Stress, trauma to the body kicks it > into overdrive thus causing it to attack healthy tissue. But a reduction of stress doesn't seem to help. I quit working a year ago, and have a very relaxed life now, with no time schedule, complete freedom, lots of sleep, and still my PA has stayed exactly the same as before in more stressy times. > People who > have HIV/AIDS are highly prone to PsA according to what I have read. I didn't know that. It seems a bit against logic. But I have no data, so I have to believe what you write! What a shame, that not even AIDS would cure us of PA! :-( Manfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 : I don't think you're correct on it being a genetic disease " mostly. "  If it were, more of us would have the HLA marker for it. And people who have HIV/AIDS are susceptible to all kinds of diseases so I'm not sure I see a particular connection to PsA. I'd be interested in your sources for either of these comments.   Joanna Hoelscher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 There is a great deal of info on the web about medical uses of marijuana and chronic pain is high on the list of conditions that it helps.  Joanna Hoelscher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I know of at least one person who is HIV positive and has P and suspected PA. He might have gotten a diagnosis of PA by now, it's been a while since I went to his blog. Here are just a few sites I found discussing concurrent P and HIV/AIDS: http://www.aegis.com/pubs/amfar/2003/AM030701.html http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102229780.html http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102212387.html http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Infections/Archive/Skin/Q96852.html http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v95/n5s/abs/5612794a.html and many others. Just google " AIDS psoriasis " regards, sherry z > Thinking about it, AIDS should be the perfect cure for PA! Or does > anyone here know people who have both PA and AIDS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Hi Jolene, No. I do not get sick. No affect whatsoever. I do find that I am slightly more likely to burn, but I think it's just sensible to wear a good sunscreen anyway. I start with 30 and keep it there. Stay Well, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Manfred, The stress I am talking about is the physical stress, like major surgery, viruses etc. Like what happend to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 > > Hi Bee, What do you think of tanning beds? I use to use them alot. I always felt good after using them and faked looking healthier than I really was. Do you consider the moderate use of them dangerous? > +++Hi kelly. Some tanning beds are okay, while others aren't. I'm not familiar with them, so maybe look them up on the internet. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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