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This happens to my girls but only when they are running.........or

upset.........hope someone else can help as I have heard this to be a common

thing.  My prayers are with you and your daughter........it's good that she is

able to attend school my 11 year old with starting treatment has pretty much bed

bed bound for the last six weeks.......  :(

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From: pavone1 <pavone1@...>

Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:01:06 PM

Subject: [ ] difficulty breathing?

 

My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease. Today she

was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything wrong

so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of this

symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of this

happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it happened

I was with her and it was unsettling.

Thank you

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My 12 year old daughter has complained of a heavy chest. While I wouldn¹t

classify it as a hard time breathing she says she now ³thinks² about

breathing where it was always natural before????

Does your daughter take ³Bar-1²? It seemed to start when she started taking

so we¹ve stopped.

Cheryl

On 10/19/10 11:01 AM, " pavone1 " <pavone1@...> wrote:

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>

>

>

>

> My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease. Today

> she was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

> breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything

> wrong so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of

> this symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of

> this happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it

> happened I was with her and it was unsettling.

> Thank you

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

This very same thing happens to my 10yo daughter and myself. Thankfully I had

the symptoms before she had to deal with them. Before I knew I had Lyme I was

sent to an asthma doctor and treated for asthma which exasperated my symptoms.

She then sent me to a pulminologist and he told me I was just hyperventilating.

Neither doctor was very helpful. Now that I know our lungs are ok I will use

natural treatments to help with our symptoms, like essential oils of peppermint

and eucalyptus to breathe in. Our difficulty breathing is usually accompanied

with some level of anxiety or panic. Not sure if that causes it or is a result

of feeling like we can't breathe. If it gets severe benadryl always helps out.

I would never overlook breathing issues though. It never hurts to follow-up

with her pediatrician or Lyme doctor.

One thing I've told my daughter is to not focus on her inability to breathe but

to either think of something else and focus on that or to get busy doing

something. Usually she calms down within minutes. It's very scary. Hang in

there.

* ´¨) ¸.• ´¸.•* ´¨)¸. •*¨)

(¸.•´ (¸ ;. •´ Tricia

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From: pavone1 <pavone1@...>

Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 2:01:06 PM

Subject: [ ] difficulty breathing?

My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease. Today she

was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything wrong

so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of this

symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of this

happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it happened

I was with her and it was unsettling.

Thank you

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trouble breathing is a common symptom of Lyme and Bartonella will leave them

feeling " air hunger " so maybe that is part of it.

I recently read that if they start having that trouble breathing from

Bartonella, it can help if they get into what is called " Child's pose " in Yoga.

The stretching of the chest from this exercise can sometimes make the chest stop

constricting.

It's not actually asthma, so that is why her chest sounds clear. It is spasming

of the bronchiae.

My daughter is back in school this year for 8th grade -- she was home schooled

last year when she started treatment. It's a hard road but they do improve.

Thinking of both of you -

Natasha

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From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@...>

Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 11:15:36 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] difficulty breathing?

This happens to my girls but only when they are running.........or

upset.........hope someone else can help as I have heard this to be a common

thing. My prayers are with you and your daughter........it's good that she is

able to attend school my 11 year old with starting treatment has pretty much bed

bed bound for the last six weeks....... :(

________________________________

From: pavone1 <pavone1@...>

Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:01:06 PM

Subject: [ ] difficulty breathing?

My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease. Today she

was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything wrong

so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of this

symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of this

happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it happened

I was with her and it was unsettling.

Thank you

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Well that fits ~ my daughter was also diagnosed with Bartonella. Thanks for

the tip about ³child¹s pose².

Don¹t know what I¹d do without the support of everyone on this website.

Thank you!

Cheryl

On 10/19/10 11:28 AM, " Natasha Moiseyev " <nmoiseyev@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

>

> trouble breathing is a common symptom of Lyme and Bartonella will leave them

> feeling " air hunger " so maybe that is part of it.

>

> I recently read that if they start having that trouble breathing from

> Bartonella, it can help if they get into what is called " Child's pose " in

> Yoga.

> The stretching of the chest from this exercise can sometimes make the chest

> stop

> constricting.

>

> It's not actually asthma, so that is why her chest sounds clear. It is

> spasming

> of the bronchiae.

>

> My daughter is back in school this year for 8th grade -- she was home schooled

> last year when she started treatment. It's a hard road but they do improve.

>

> Thinking of both of you -

>

> Natasha

>

> ________________________________

> From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@... <mailto:dkbmama%40> >

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 11:15:36 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] difficulty breathing?

>

> This happens to my girls but only when they are running.........or

> upset.........hope someone else can help as I have heard this to be a common

> thing. My prayers are with you and your daughter........it's good that she is

> able to attend school my 11 year old with starting treatment has pretty much

> bed

>

> bed bound for the last six weeks....... :(

>

> ________________________________

> From: pavone1 <pavone1@... <mailto:pavone1%40> >

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:01:06 PM

> Subject: [ ] difficulty breathing?

>

> My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease. Today

> she

>

> was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

> breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything

> wrong

>

> so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of this

> symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of this

> happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it

> happened

> I was with her and it was unsettling.

>

> Thank you

>

>

>

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from what my llmd told me the air hunger is a classic symptom of babesia.

bart is usually the migraines, crazy thoughts.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Natasha Moiseyev

<nmoiseyev@...>wrote:

>

>

> trouble breathing is a common symptom of Lyme and Bartonella will leave

> them

> feeling " air hunger " so maybe that is part of it.

>

> I recently read that if they start having that trouble breathing from

> Bartonella, it can help if they get into what is called " Child's pose " in

> Yoga.

> The stretching of the chest from this exercise can sometimes make the chest

> stop

> constricting.

>

> It's not actually asthma, so that is why her chest sounds clear. It is

> spasming

> of the bronchiae.

>

> My daughter is back in school this year for 8th grade -- she was home

> schooled

> last year when she started treatment. It's a hard road but they do improve.

>

> Thinking of both of you -

>

> Natasha

>

> ________________________________

> From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@... <dkbmama%40>>

>

> < %40>

> Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 11:15:36 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] difficulty breathing?

>

>

> This happens to my girls but only when they are running.........or

> upset.........hope someone else can help as I have heard this to be a

> common

> thing. My prayers are with you and your daughter........it's good that she

> is

> able to attend school my 11 year old with starting treatment has pretty

> much bed

>

> bed bound for the last six weeks....... :(

>

> ________________________________

> From: pavone1 <pavone1@... <pavone1%40>>

> < %40>

> Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:01:06 PM

> Subject: [ ] difficulty breathing?

>

> My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease.

> Today she

>

> was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

> breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything

> wrong

>

> so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of

> this

> symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of

> this

> happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it

> happened

> I was with her and it was unsettling.

>

> Thank you

>

>

>

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oh, right. of course. see, Lyme affects the brain and word selection, lol.

Babesia does give air hunger and it is no joke. But the yoga thing is supposed

to work.

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From: le Handy <kndplus2@...>

Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 5:00:51 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] difficulty breathing?

from what my llmd told me the air hunger is a classic symptom of babesia.

bart is usually the migraines, crazy thoughts.

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Natasha Moiseyev

<nmoiseyev@...>wrote:

>

>

> trouble breathing is a common symptom of Lyme and Bartonella will leave

> them

> feeling " air hunger " so maybe that is part of it.

>

> I recently read that if they start having that trouble breathing from

> Bartonella, it can help if they get into what is called " Child's pose " in

> Yoga.

> The stretching of the chest from this exercise can sometimes make the chest

> stop

> constricting.

>

> It's not actually asthma, so that is why her chest sounds clear. It is

> spasming

> of the bronchiae.

>

> My daughter is back in school this year for 8th grade -- she was home

> schooled

> last year when she started treatment. It's a hard road but they do improve.

>

> Thinking of both of you -

>

> Natasha

>

> ________________________________

> From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@... <dkbmama%40>>

>

> < %40>

> Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 11:15:36 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] difficulty breathing?

>

>

> This happens to my girls but only when they are running.........or

> upset.........hope someone else can help as I have heard this to be a

> common

> thing. My prayers are with you and your daughter........it's good that she

> is

> able to attend school my 11 year old with starting treatment has pretty

> much bed

>

> bed bound for the last six weeks....... :(

>

> ________________________________

> From: pavone1 <pavone1@... <pavone1%40>>

> < %40>

> Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:01:06 PM

> Subject: [ ] difficulty breathing?

>

> My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease.

> Today she

>

> was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

> breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything

> wrong

>

> so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of

> this

> symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of

> this

> happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it

> happened

> I was with her and it was unsettling.

>

> Thank you

>

>

>

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Thank you everyone. I & #39;m so sorry you have all had to deal with difficulty

breathing as well, but I am very grateful for the advice and encouragement. My

daughter is not on " Bar -1 " , she is taking azythromycin and teasel root. Over

all she is handling treatment well so far. Some strange symptoms now, but

nothing like my sons experience. He too was on homebound tutoring for most of

the year last year and is now back to school full time. I will look into the

essential oils and google that yoga pose. I do think there is some sort of

anxiety involved for her as well, but I don & #39;t think that & #39;s what brings

it on, although she has not been herself since starting treatment.

Her tests for confections were pretty inconclusive so I don & #39;t know what is

going on for sure, but her Dr. did say that he chose to start her on

azythromycin because it works well for them so maybe he suspects something.We

see him again in two weeks and I am anxious to see what he has to say about it.

I hate all the uncertainties of this experience. Thank you all again it means a

lot.

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My son has that, its called exercise induced asthma. He takes albuterol inhaler

or nebulizer treatment for it.

From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] difficulty breathing?

Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 2:15 PM

This happens to my girls but only when they are running.........or

upset.........hope someone else can help as I have heard this to be a common

thing.  My prayers are with you and your daughter........it's good that she is

able to attend school my 11 year old with starting treatment has pretty much bed

bed bound for the last six weeks.......  :(

________________________________

From: pavone1 <pavone1@...>

Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 1:01:06 PM

Subject: [ ] difficulty breathing?

 

My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease. Today she

was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything wrong

so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of this

symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of this

happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it happened

I was with her and it was unsettling.

Thank you

     

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allergist is an ass. The symptoms of these different coinfections are well

documented. If a child has Lyme, it is ridiculous to assume that the kid is

making it up instead of experiencing very typical coinfections. Interesting

that the first line of defense for the ignorant is to ignore symptoms and claim

they don't exist. If only.

But to answer your question, coinfections can be tested like Lyme is tested.

Though my daughter was rampant with Bartonella streaks and all the symptoms and

came back negative, so it's not perfect-- no lab tests for all the strains of

Bartonella, and I think the same problem might exist with Babesia.

Interesting what you said about the allergist though, When my older daughter

was a baby, I kept insisting there was something off about her breathing, and

she would cough every night, all night,. They said I was just an anxious new

mother. She has congenital Lyme, we found out when she was 12. Still coughs at

night. Anxious mom? Yes, but with good reason!!!

Keep the faith --

Natasha

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From: Diane Biel <dkbmama@...>

Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 9:21:08 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] difficulty breathing?

How do they test for that ?? Thanks - the allergist thinks they are making it

up.....grrrrr

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Ladies:

I read about your children and breathing difficulties and I have to say that is

one area of the body that Lyme has stayed clear of with Nate my 15 year old.

When I read Natasha's post about her infant daughter, I was immediately

transported back in time to the exact thing. I knew in my gut and heart that

Nate was not breathing right. No one else heard it or worried about it. I would

lose sleep thinking I am solely responsible for his life since no one was

hearing his change in breathing. Maybe it was related to his lungs. Then 3

months later he was weezing and had pneumonia. Hmmm.

This morning I phone conference with Nate's intervention specialist because even

online part time school is not working out for him. I think she is going to add

alternative assessment to his IEP. Not sure how I feel about it.

My 42 year old sister just tested positive for Lyme and now her 3 year old will

have to be tested. We think we got bit the same summer in Wisconsin 30 years ago

when the ticks were so bad on the farm. I may be coming back to the group to see

if anyone has experience with treating their toddlers for Lyme. She may even

join for the support. Florida does not have a lot of Lyme.

Wishing you all healthy children,

Kari

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One more idea is that the medicines could be causing reflux. GERD-related asthma

can be controlled with Zantac.

>

> My 10 year old daughter has recently begun treatment for Lyme disease. Today

she was sent to the nurses office at school because she was having trouble

breathing. The nurse said her lungs sound clear and couldn't find anything wrong

so sent her back to class. This is the second time she has complained of this

symptom. I was wondering if any of your children have ever complained of this

happening to them. I'm not sure what to think of it, the first time it happened

I was with her and it was unsettling.

> Thank you

>

>

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I am so sorry about your sister. It it astonishing how widespread this disease

is.

On this end, Sasha has been in school, albeit in a lot of pain, and the nurse

told her again that she does not think she can legally allow Sasha to come into

the office during PE without a new doctor's note -- the last one in the file is

from April. This is obviously coming down directly from the district nurse, who

arrived yesterday (again) at my friend's house and said " I talked to your

doctor. I think you'll find he's had a change of heart and won't be signing Jo

off for homeschooling this year, so don't expect the tutor to show up here. "

What?????? Total lie, the woman knows no shame. I am sure she is behind the

harassment of Sasha too. Given a choice between not going to school at all and

not going to PE, why would they apparently rather she not show up at all? As my

husb says, there are schools in Maine, Connecticut, NH where many kids are out

with this, and they manage to deal with it. Plus I just found out that a woman

I know who has a child with various learning difficulties has received from the

district a FULL TIME AIDE in the classroom who is a teacher who was laid off

from the neighboring school district. And here my kid had a tutor finally

assigned last December who came exactly twice and was completely useless. It's

ridiculous.

Meanwhile, Maya also goes to school every day, though in huge amounts of pain,

and is likewise told she has to participate in PE.

I hate this disease and I hate the school district, and I am so busy trying to

survive that I don't have time ot take them on properly.

Thanks for letting me vent. I know it has nothing to do with breathing, but I

am so tired of people who are legally required to help us simply turning a deaf

ear. Should a child suffering from a combination of rheumatoid arthritis and

fibromyalgia REALLY be required to play flag football?

Off to a new day. I accidentally double booked two clients but I sure am glad I

have some work ...

Hang in there everyone. At least we have each other and that keeps me going

during weeks like this one.

Natasha

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From: endomr <ktdommer@...>

Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 4:33:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

Ladies:

I read about your children and breathing difficulties and I have to say that is

one area of the body that Lyme has stayed clear of with Nate my 15 year old.

When I read Natasha's post about her infant daughter, I was immediately

transported back in time to the exact thing. I knew in my gut and heart that

Nate was not breathing right. No one else heard it or worried about it. I would

lose sleep thinking I am solely responsible for his life since no one was

hearing his change in breathing. Maybe it was related to his lungs. Then 3

months later he was weezing and had pneumonia. Hmmm.

This morning I phone conference with Nate's intervention specialist because even

online part time school is not working out for him. I think she is going to add

alternative assessment to his IEP. Not sure how I feel about it.

My 42 year old sister just tested positive for Lyme and now her 3 year old will

have to be tested. We think we got bit the same summer in Wisconsin 30 years ago

when the ticks were so bad on the farm. I may be coming back to the group to see

if anyone has experience with treating their toddlers for Lyme. She may even

join for the support. Florida does not have a lot of Lyme.

Wishing you all healthy children,

Kari

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Natasha,

When my daughter was diagnosed and had her PICC line inserted, her gym class was

doing an archery unit. I had her LLMD fax a note to her school so she wouldn't

have to do gym. Pulling back on a bow with her right arm, the PICC line arm,

was contraindicated. Our school district provides " sportfolios " for students to

do for their gym grade when they cannot participate. It is sport-related

reading material with some questions at the end. The sportfolios are rather

lame, but they provide a way for the school to give the student a grade.

Doesn't your school have something like this? There must be other students who

are unable to do gym who don't have Lyme. What does the school do to

accommodate them? If you have a note from the doctor, the district nurse cannot

challenge it.

Good luck! Let us know how it goes. We are rooting for you and your girls.

You are in my thoughts.

batikquilt

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From: Natasha Moiseyev <nmoiseyev@...>

Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 8:04:03 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

I am so sorry about your sister. It it astonishing how widespread this disease

is.

On this end, Sasha has been in school, albeit in a lot of pain, and the nurse

told her again that she does not think she can legally allow Sasha to come into

the office during PE without a new doctor's note -- the last one in the file is

from April. This is obviously coming down directly from the district nurse, who

arrived yesterday (again) at my friend's house and said " I talked to your

doctor. I think you'll find he's had a change of heart and won't be signing Jo

off for homeschooling this year, so don't expect the tutor to show up here. "

What?????? Total lie, the woman knows no shame. I am sure she is behind the

harassment of Sasha too. Given a choice between not going to school at all and

not going to PE, why would they apparently rather she not show up at all? As my

husb says, there are schools in Maine, Connecticut, NH where many kids are out

with this, and they manage to deal with it. Plus I just found out that a woman

I know who has a child with various learning difficulties has received from the

district a FULL TIME AIDE in the classroom who is a teacher who was laid off

from the neighboring school district. And here my kid had a tutor finally

assigned last December who came exactly twice and was completely useless. It's

ridiculous.

Meanwhile, Maya also goes to school every day, though in huge amounts of pain,

and is likewise told she has to participate in PE.

I hate this disease and I hate the school district, and I am so busy trying to

survive that I don't have time ot take them on properly.

Thanks for letting me vent. I know it has nothing to do with breathing, but I

am so tired of people who are legally required to help us simply turning a deaf

ear. Should a child suffering from a combination of rheumatoid arthritis and

fibromyalgia REALLY be required to play flag football?

Off to a new day. I accidentally double booked two clients but I sure am glad I

have some work ...

Hang in there everyone. At least we have each other and that keeps me going

during weeks like this one.

Natasha

________________________________

From: endomr <ktdommer@...>

Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 4:33:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

Ladies:

I read about your children and breathing difficulties and I have to say that is

one area of the body that Lyme has stayed clear of with Nate my 15 year old.

When I read Natasha's post about her infant daughter, I was immediately

transported back in time to the exact thing. I knew in my gut and heart that

Nate was not breathing right. No one else heard it or worried about it. I would

lose sleep thinking I am solely responsible for his life since no one was

hearing his change in breathing. Maybe it was related to his lungs. Then 3

months later he was weezing and had pneumonia. Hmmm.

This morning I phone conference with Nate's intervention specialist because even

online part time school is not working out for him. I think she is going to add

alternative assessment to his IEP. Not sure how I feel about it.

My 42 year old sister just tested positive for Lyme and now her 3 year old will

have to be tested. We think we got bit the same summer in Wisconsin 30 years ago

when the ticks were so bad on the farm. I may be coming back to the group to see

if anyone has experience with treating their toddlers for Lyme. She may even

join for the support. Florida does not have a lot of Lyme.

Wishing you all healthy children,

Kari

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thanks --

I agree with all you said. This district nurse is completely rogue. What she

does regularly is illegal. I am about to go and complain to the district

(again). We actually want nothing but to have the kids in school and even not

getting a PE grade if necessary -- really, so what? They are supposed ot run a

mile regularly throughout the year and last year my daughter got an F because

she couldn't run and was the slowest one in the group -- duh.

I hate having to deal with all this. I know the rights but we are trying so

hard just to survive at this point with four four four lyme-infected, it's hard

to challenge and I tend to take the path of least resistance. That said, I

wrote this morning (again) to the counselor and said I wanted him to clarify

AGAIN to the relevant people in the school that we have a note on file and they

can sit out PE.

What. the.heck.

Thanks for hte support.

Natasha

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From: Kaethe <batikquilt@...>

Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 6:47:32 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

Natasha,

When my daughter was diagnosed and had her PICC line inserted, her gym class was

doing an archery unit. I had her LLMD fax a note to her school so she wouldn't

have to do gym. Pulling back on a bow with her right arm, the PICC line arm,

was contraindicated. Our school district provides " sportfolios " for students to

do for their gym grade when they cannot participate. It is sport-related

reading material with some questions at the end. The sportfolios are rather

lame, but they provide a way for the school to give the student a grade.

Doesn't your school have something like this? There must be other students who

are unable to do gym who don't have Lyme. What does the school do to

accommodate them? If you have a note from the doctor, the district nurse cannot

challenge it.

Good luck! Let us know how it goes. We are rooting for you and your girls.

You are in my thoughts.

batikquilt

________________________________

From: Natasha Moiseyev <nmoiseyev@...>

Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 8:04:03 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

I am so sorry about your sister. It it astonishing how widespread this disease

is.

On this end, Sasha has been in school, albeit in a lot of pain, and the nurse

told her again that she does not think she can legally allow Sasha to come into

the office during PE without a new doctor's note -- the last one in the file is

from April. This is obviously coming down directly from the district nurse, who

arrived yesterday (again) at my friend's house and said " I talked to your

doctor. I think you'll find he's had a change of heart and won't be signing Jo

off for homeschooling this year, so don't expect the tutor to show up here. "

What?????? Total lie, the woman knows no shame. I am sure she is behind the

harassment of Sasha too. Given a choice between not going to school at all and

not going to PE, why would they apparently rather she not show up at all? As my

husb says, there are schools in Maine, Connecticut, NH where many kids are out

with this, and they manage to deal with it. Plus I just found out that a woman

I know who has a child with various learning difficulties has received from the

district a FULL TIME AIDE in the classroom who is a teacher who was laid off

from the neighboring school district. And here my kid had a tutor finally

assigned last December who came exactly twice and was completely useless. It's

ridiculous.

Meanwhile, Maya also goes to school every day, though in huge amounts of pain,

and is likewise told she has to participate in PE.

I hate this disease and I hate the school district, and I am so busy trying to

survive that I don't have time ot take them on properly.

Thanks for letting me vent. I know it has nothing to do with breathing, but I

am so tired of people who are legally required to help us simply turning a deaf

ear. Should a child suffering from a combination of rheumatoid arthritis and

fibromyalgia REALLY be required to play flag football?

Off to a new day. I accidentally double booked two clients but I sure am glad I

have some work ...

Hang in there everyone. At least we have each other and that keeps me going

during weeks like this one.

Natasha

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From: endomr <ktdommer@...>

Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 4:33:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

Ladies:

I read about your children and breathing difficulties and I have to say that is

one area of the body that Lyme has stayed clear of with Nate my 15 year old.

When I read Natasha's post about her infant daughter, I was immediately

transported back in time to the exact thing. I knew in my gut and heart that

Nate was not breathing right. No one else heard it or worried about it. I would

lose sleep thinking I am solely responsible for his life since no one was

hearing his change in breathing. Maybe it was related to his lungs. Then 3

months later he was weezing and had pneumonia. Hmmm.

This morning I phone conference with Nate's intervention specialist because even

online part time school is not working out for him. I think she is going to add

alternative assessment to his IEP. Not sure how I feel about it.

My 42 year old sister just tested positive for Lyme and now her 3 year old will

have to be tested. We think we got bit the same summer in Wisconsin 30 years ago

when the ticks were so bad on the farm. I may be coming back to the group to see

if anyone has experience with treating their toddlers for Lyme. She may even

join for the support. Florida does not have a lot of Lyme.

Wishing you all healthy children,

Kari

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Hi Natasha,

Where do you live? Sorry to hear about your problems with the schools.

Isn't your doctor willing to to sign a note for your daughter? Our

daughters

Doctor wrote up an extensive plan for her for her limitations in school and

we

We did a 504 plan in the 9th grade. She has not had to take gym. When she is

fatigued or in pain she stays home and the teachers e-mail her work. They

were

Willing to do tutors but her dad helped her when she needed it. Last Flu

season

she was out from Nov to January. We live in Maine and have been lucky to

have

had our schools support. How old is your daughter..poor baby.I know how

awful

it can get when my daughter is in pain its awful that she has to do

something that

causes more pain. My daughter is 17 and graduates this year. The next hurdle

will be

college. She is looking for Colleges close to home in case she needs us.

Kids

shouldn't have to fear leaving home because of their health they should just

be

able to have fun being young and carefree!

Wishing you a Great Weekend :o)

Elaina

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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:04 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

I am so sorry about your sister. It it astonishing how widespread this

disease

is.

On this end, Sasha has been in school, albeit in a lot of pain, and the

nurse

told her again that she does not think she can legally allow Sasha to come

into

the office during PE without a new doctor's note -- the last one in the file

is

from April. This is obviously coming down directly from the district nurse,

who

arrived yesterday (again) at my friend's house and said " I talked to your

doctor. I think you'll find he's had a change of heart and won't be signing

Jo

off for homeschooling this year, so don't expect the tutor to show up here. "

What?????? Total lie, the woman knows no shame. I am sure she is behind the

harassment of Sasha too. Given a choice between not going to school at all

and

not going to PE, why would they apparently rather she not show up at all? As

my

husb says, there are schools in Maine, Connecticut, NH where many kids are

out

with this, and they manage to deal with it. Plus I just found out that a

woman

I know who has a child with various learning difficulties has received from

the

district a FULL TIME AIDE in the classroom who is a teacher who was laid off

from the neighboring school district. And here my kid had a tutor finally

assigned last December who came exactly twice and was completely useless.

It's

ridiculous.

Meanwhile, Maya also goes to school every day, though in huge amounts of

pain,

and is likewise told she has to participate in PE.

I hate this disease and I hate the school district, and I am so busy trying

to

survive that I don't have time ot take them on properly.

Thanks for letting me vent. I know it has nothing to do with breathing, but

I

am so tired of people who are legally required to help us simply turning a

deaf

ear. Should a child suffering from a combination of rheumatoid arthritis and

fibromyalgia REALLY be required to play flag football?

Off to a new day. I accidentally double booked two clients but I sure am

glad I

have some work ...

Hang in there everyone. At least we have each other and that keeps me going

during weeks like this one.

Natasha

________________________________

From: endomr <ktdommer@... <mailto:ktdommer%40> >

<mailto: %40>

Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 4:33:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: difficulty breathing?

Ladies:

I read about your children and breathing difficulties and I have to say that

is

one area of the body that Lyme has stayed clear of with Nate my 15 year old.

When I read Natasha's post about her infant daughter, I was immediately

transported back in time to the exact thing. I knew in my gut and heart that

Nate was not breathing right. No one else heard it or worried about it. I

would

lose sleep thinking I am solely responsible for his life since no one was

hearing his change in breathing. Maybe it was related to his lungs. Then 3

months later he was weezing and had pneumonia. Hmmm.

This morning I phone conference with Nate's intervention specialist because

even

online part time school is not working out for him. I think she is going to

add

alternative assessment to his IEP. Not sure how I feel about it.

My 42 year old sister just tested positive for Lyme and now her 3 year old

will

have to be tested. We think we got bit the same summer in Wisconsin 30 years

ago

when the ticks were so bad on the farm. I may be coming back to the group to

see

if anyone has experience with treating their toddlers for Lyme. She may even

join for the support. Florida does not have a lot of Lyme.

Wishing you all healthy children,

Kari

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