Flagyl

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In a message dated 9/12/99 5:06:03 PM, Sinaj101@... writes:

<< I was told once it depended on

how bad your immune system was if you have really bad herxes. Just a guess

here for me but mine seems to be doing ok and maybe thats why I don't get

really bad herxes. I am at this point 98% my old self and hoping for no

relapses.

Janis>>

Janis, I just read your post and was wondering if you are still taking the

flagyl and suprax and if so how long did it take before you noticed

improvement on these drugs. I am thinking of taking the flagyl and am very

curious to know others experiances. Also did the doxy do anything for you and

how long were you on it. Hope you continue to feel well -Val

[Guest guest]

Val,

I know Doxy doesn't work for everyone but I noticed the most improvement

on it. After 15 months on it straight I was 95% myself. I took three a day

of the 100mg Doxy and made sure I took it either two hours before or after

dairy foods. Anything with dairy or acidolphulus too. That meant no taking

a Doxy and eating pizza or anything with cheese or dairy in it. I felt like

that is one reason Doxy worked for me. You may already know that Doxy is

absorbed by dairy foods. Some pharmacists say its not but my physician said

it is and I went by his word. Also some things I read said one thing and

another said something else. I have been off abx now for 3 months. I must

admit though I am taking a form of ionic silver and MSM hoping to catch any

bugs that might try to sneak out. So far I am doing great but its to early

to tell I think. So I am not telling anyone to do what I am doing as its

sort of my own experiment. I don't trust being totally off something and so

far even the yeast problems have subsided and I am real happy about that. I

feel 98% over lyme at this time. I think the other 3% came from getting the

yeast problems gone. The other 2% right now is because I still have a slight

numbness in my left hand that has never gone away and may never. I hope it

does but it may be permanent nerve damage. I just don't know but I am still

hopeful. I hope this helps some. Feel free to ask me anything. I will

answer it the best I can.

Take care,

Janis

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Two of my friends are also taking Biaxin in combo with Flagyl. They

both are members of this list, but maybe too busy or too sick and tired to

write, I know in one instance, it causes great fatigue. Hope this helps,.

Hugs,

Marta

>From: " J. Swilley " <ljswilley@...>

>

>What other antibiotics have been used with Flagyl? I've been on Flagyl

>for six months or so and haven't experienced anything I would call

>herxing much less intense herxing. I go to my LLMD on Monday and would

>like to have some names of antibiotics to ask about.

>

>Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janis,

Welcome to the list, and what a welcome addition you are, we have been

trying to help Wes, who is new to tick diseases, to find a good doctor, I am

so glad you wrote him. Now we need to find a good doctor in Idaho for

Cyntha, who is also on our list. I know what you mean about trying to

inform others about their illnesses possibly being from the bite of a tick,

while misdiagnosed with some other disease... sadly, some people just fall

in love with their dx, and don't want to hear of it. It also could be that

people just cannot fathom how sick you can get from the bite of one tiny

tick! I am so happy that you are feeling 98% at your best with good

treatment, you give hope to so many who read this list and are far from that

goal. Again, welcome and thanks for helping us out with doctors in the

Oklahoma area.

Best to you,

Marta NJ

>From: Sinaj101@...

>

>

>Hi everyone,

> I just got on this list last night and just in time it looks like. I

>have wrote the fellow lymie here in Oklahoma and hope that in some way I

can

>help him but at this time there isn't any lyme literate doctors I know of

in

>Oklahoma. His best bet is the one I see in Kansas City, MO or one of the

>ones in Texas. Oklahoma is still trying to deny a problem with Lyme. I

try

>to educate as much as I can but most wont even listen. It's sad too. I

know

>many have lyme but are just diagnosed with other things. Seems like half

the

>town here has either MS, Fibro, Lupus, or Chronic Fatigue. I have grown

>tired of trying to help them and having them think I am nuts. Anyway,

hello

>from Oklahoma and I hope I can help in some way.

> , I did the Flagyl also and I did it with Suprax. I took 500mg 3

times

>a day of Flagyl along with Suprax 400mg two times a day. I had already

done

>15 months of Doxycycline and didn't notice any big herxes there either. I

>was so sick when I started the Doxy that I may not have been able to tell

the

>herx from just plain feeling like I was going to die in the beginning

anyway.

> I didn't notice any big herxes on any of them I just gradually felt

better

>but it did take a long time to make the progress I have made. I think just

>some people herx really bad and others don't. I was told once it depended

on

>how bad your immune system was if you have really bad herxes. Just a guess

>here for me but mine seems to be doing ok and maybe thats why I don't get

>really bad herxes. I am at this point 98% my old self and hoping for no

>relapses.

>

>Janis

>

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In a message dated 9/13/99 3:42:09 AM Central Daylight Time,

mlmccoy@... writes:

<< Hi ,

Two of my friends are also taking Biaxin in combo with Flagyl. They

both are members of this list, but maybe too busy or too sick and tired to

write, I know in one instance, it causes great fatigue. Hope this helps,.

Hugs,

Marta >>

I am taking the same combo and my *biggest* complaint is the fatigue.

Sometimes I wonder how good I would feel if the fatigue was gone.

Would I feel *normal*? I guess the real question is, would I remember what

*normal* felt like? I have been cautiously optimistic because it seems many

symptoms have faded away, yet, since fatigue has always been the biggest one,

a little skeptical if this is working or not.

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I agree with on the Flagyl and the yeast thing. The Flagyl and the

Suprax together that I took did cause yeast flare ups in a big way.

Acidolphulus didn't even seem to take care of it no matter how much of it I

took. Yeast can make your joints ache also just like Lyme and can cause the

fatigue also. Thats one of the reasons I am off abx right now and a lot of

my fatigue and little joint pains left totally after quitting. There is

some days now that I feel like I could do anything. Exercise helps me a lot

also. Before all the abx though I could hardly walk around the block now I

can spend two hours at the Y working out. This disease is just so confusing

you guys. Its hard to tell what to do. You just kind of have to go by how

your body feels I think and be the judge. I hope this helps you guys but I

do agree with totally on this one.

Janis

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In a message dated 9/13/99 11:24:32 AM Central Daylight Time,

jscully@... writes:

<< Golfdawg,

Is it possible that the fatigue is a yeast thing? I had horrible yeast

problems while on Flagyl, much worse than on

any other antibiotic I've taken. >>

I have been tested for candida several times and the last couple of times I

was negative. The only weird thing is that apparently Biaxin and Flagyl

don't kill whatever bacteria that causes my face to break out and also my

scalp. I just got back on doxy because that knocks it out right away. The

other combos of abx killed whatever critters they did my face/scalp.

[Guest guest]

There are actually doctors in Texas that have a clue about Lyme? I haven't

found one yet. They do a blood test, and that's it. And the rheumatologist

is even more clueless than my PCP. Do you know who any of these doctors are

who know what the heck they are doing, and are there any in Dallas-Fort Worth?

Thanks,

a R.

[Guest guest]

Golfdawg,

Is it possible that the fatigue is a yeast thing? I had horrible yeast problems

while on Flagyl, much worse than on

any other antibiotic I've taken. I had to take an over the counter antiyeast

med, Caprylic acid, in addition to

heaps of acidophilus and garlic in order to get it under control. I developed

horrendous yeast-dandruff on my scalp,

too.

Just a thought.

Jean

Golfdawg@... wrote:

> From: Golfdawg@...

>

> In a message dated 9/13/99 3:42:09 AM Central Daylight Time,

> mlmccoy@... writes:

>

> << Hi ,

> Two of my friends are also taking Biaxin in combo with Flagyl. They

> both are members of this list, but maybe too busy or too sick and tired to

> write, I know in one instance, it causes great fatigue. Hope this helps,.

> Hugs,

> Marta >>

>

> I am taking the same combo and my *biggest* complaint is the fatigue.

> Sometimes I wonder how good I would feel if the fatigue was gone.

>

> Would I feel *normal*? I guess the real question is, would I remember what

> *normal* felt like? I have been cautiously optimistic because it seems many

> symptoms have faded away, yet, since fatigue has always been the biggest one,

> a little skeptical if this is working or not.

>

> -

[Guest guest]

Hi Janis,

Good to know someone can be off abx for three whole months and feel 95%

good. Very inspiring and I hope and pray your remission lasts forever. All

of us are different, unfortunately, some of us have co-infections, or a

different strain of spirochete, thus we must keep searching for the right

combo of drugs, and not be discouraged if we can avoid it....yeah, right!

Anyway,I hope one day you wake up and realize that numbness on your hand

isn't there anymore.

Hugs,

Marta NJ

>From: Sinaj101@...

>

>

>Val,

> I know Doxy doesn't work for everyone but I noticed the most

improvement

>on it. After 15 months on it straight I was 95% myself. I took three a

day

>of the 100mg Doxy and made sure I took it either two hours before or after

>dairy foods. Anything with dairy or acidolphulus too. That meant no

taking

>a Doxy and eating pizza or anything with cheese or dairy in it. I felt

like

>that is one reason Doxy worked for me. You may already know that Doxy is

>absorbed by dairy foods. Some pharmacists say its not but my physician

said

>it is and I went by his word. Also some things I read said one thing and

>another said something else. I have been off abx now for 3 months. I must

>admit though I am taking a form of ionic silver and MSM hoping to catch any

>bugs that might try to sneak out. So far I am doing great but its to early

>to tell I think. So I am not telling anyone to do what I am doing as its

>sort of my own experiment. I don't trust being totally off something and

so

>far even the yeast problems have subsided and I am real happy about that.

I

>feel 98% over lyme at this time. I think the other 3% came from getting

the

>yeast problems gone. The other 2% right now is because I still have a

slight

>numbness in my left hand that has never gone away and may never. I hope it

>does but it may be permanent nerve damage. I just don't know but I am

still

>hopeful. I hope this helps some. Feel free to ask me anything. I will

>answer it the best I can.

>

>Take care,

>Janis

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/99 1:35:54 PM Central Daylight Time,

JRiley3955@... writes:

<< There are actually doctors in Texas that have a clue about Lyme? >>

Yep there is suppose to be a couple in Texas. One is a woman and her name is

Audrey Stein-Goldings and she is in Garland Texas. There is another one but

I would have to talk to a friend of mine to find out his name.

Janis

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/99 8:57:52 PM Central Daylight Time, Sinaj101@...

writes:

<<

<< There are actually doctors in Texas that have a clue about Lyme? >>

Yep there is suppose to be a couple in Texas. One is a woman and her name

is

Audrey Stein-Goldings and she is in Garland Texas. There is another one but

I would have to talk to a friend of mine to find out his name. >>

Both of the infectious disease docs I used in Houston urged me to " go to

where the Lyme is " ...meaning NJ, CT, PA, or NY. And I did.

The one told me that if I had HIV there was no one more experienced than he

in Texas. He sees 40 patients a day. He said he sees maybe 2-3 cases of

Lyme a year and I needed someone who had day-to-day experience.

He was absolutely correct.

[Guest guest]

Hi Marta,

I went to the doctor and he added doxy to the Flagyl plus he ordered

nongeneric so it won't taste so bad. He had to write medically necessary

to get it. My drugs are mailorder so I haven't started yet. Plus I'm in

ville waiting on Floyd and my mailorder drugs are in Tampa so I

imagine it will take longer than usual this time.

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:41:32 -0400 " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...>

writes:

>From: " J & M McCoy " <mlmccoy@...>

>

>Hi ,

> Two of my friends are also taking Biaxin in combo with Flagyl.

>They

>both are members of this list, but maybe too busy or too sick and

>tired to

>write, I know in one instance, it causes great fatigue. Hope this

>helps,.

>Hugs,

>Marta

>

>

>>From: " J. Swilley " <ljswilley@...>

>>

>>What other antibiotics have been used with Flagyl? I've been on

>Flagyl

>>for six months or so and haven't experienced anything I would call

>>herxing much less intense herxing. I go to my LLMD on Monday and

>would

>>like to have some names of antibiotics to ask about.

>>

>>Thanks,

>>

>>

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Hi ,

Hope Floyd misses your house, this hurricane is really scary, I hope the

weather people are over reacting as they sometimes tend to do. I think it

is great you are on a second drug with Flagyl, hope you get the new

prescription soon. Keep us posted,

Hugs,

Marta NJ

>From: " J. Swilley " <ljswilley@...>

>

>Hi Marta,

>I went to the doctor and he added doxy to the Flagyl plus he ordered

>nongeneric so it won't taste so bad. He had to write medically necessary

>to get it. My drugs are mailorder so I haven't started yet. Plus I'm in

>ville waiting on Floyd and my mailorder drugs are in Tampa so I

>imagine it will take longer than usual this time.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/13/99 3:19:24 AM, Sinaj101@... writes:

<<I just don't know but I am still

hopeful. I hope this helps some. Feel free to ask me anything. I will

answer it the best I can.

Take care,

Janis>>

Janis, thank yo for your story. I am interested in what brand of silver

youget and where you get it from Is it something you can obtain easily. Is it

the same as collodial silver or is it something different. Please let me know

when you get a chance. hope you continue on your road to wellness and never

fall back again-Val

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/24/99 7:56:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mellillo1@... writes:

<< Any alcohol, even the tiniest drop can

cause a violent reaction. She told me vanilla extract, mouthwash, some

vinegars, and a host of other things can cause a reaction and that is why

she tries to stay away from it if she can. >>

interesting premise...never heard it before...my husband is on Flagyl 500 3

times a day..

on it now 17 days without a problem...he is not a drinker and we do not use

mouthwash...we rarely use vinegar...and no vanilla extract...now you have me

thinking deeper about if there are other possibilities....Esp. since if my

testing comes back positive, I am sure my LLMD will stick me on Flagyl

too...just a hunch..

M Atkinson Barr had an interesting post recently on the subject of Flagyl and

reactions...I paste 2 different postings below the 2nd is just way

interesting b

ubject: Re: Flagyl side effects

From: Atkinson-Barr <A

HREF= " mailto:mcmab@... " >mcmab@...</A>

Date: Sun, 12 September 1999 10:57 AM EDT

Message-id: <37DBBF76.E6F4AA08@...>

mike7701@... wrote:

> I've been on it for 10 days, 1500 mg/day along with doxy. The first

> six days I was in a fog, occasional upset stomach, 1-2 bouts of cold

> sweats, and a metallic taste in my mouth. Last four days have been

> smooth sailing. Actually been clear headed for the first time in

> months. I am curious what I'm going to experience at herx time.

>

> Mike

>

Here's a heads up of what to expect from my observations:

Things will get worse before you get better.

At 14-28 days your cognitive function may decline. It seems that after

that all the cognitive effects of Lyme can be reversed - i.e. no

permanent damage from the Lyme.

At any time between about 14 and 60 days you may experience a " crisis " ,

with palpitations & shortness of breath for a few hours. Some people

have required a visit to the hospital.

At days 21-28 you may get very depressed. Fatigue will be a problem

until about day 90. Your sleep patterns wil change, perhaps with periods

on intense, deep sleep.

There will be a long period when you are at 90-95% of normal. The last

few % takes a long time.

Good luck

ubject: Re: Have you been helped with Flagyl?

From: Atkinson-Barr <A

HREF= " mailto:mcmab@... " >mcmab@...</A>

Date: Sun, 19 September 1999 04:43 PM EDT

Message-id: <37E54B09.6E7EA11C@...>

Update:

When I first was sufficiently convinced of the efficacy of Flagyl, in late

1998, I went public to garner some interest from some treating MDs.

Fortunately some tried it and obtained the same results as I had seen.

A year later the early promise of Flagyl continues to be confirmed. Almost

every day I receive e-mails and telephone calls from Lyme sufferers

reporting their good results and many similar calls from physicians.

Some cases have not seen the good results they had hoped. Sometimes the

Lyme patient feels so much worse they discontinue treatment. This is a

consequence of Flagyl and things turn around usually at 2-3 months though

some have gone up to 4 months without improvement. On the other hand we

have seen a number of miracle responses - complete elimination of symptoms

in a few weeks - even in severe cases unresponsive to other therapies. Some

people have reported that they did not feel improved until after stopping

Flagyl. Perhaps some people get no benefit at all - but I have not observed

any clear cut cases that fall into this category.

Treatment failures usually seem to be the result of stopping Flagyl too

early but Horowitz reported that babesia can inhibit Flagyl's

effect. I note that treatment at 6 months continues to give rise to subtle

improvements and that the improvements come in areas related to nerve

function that I would expect to take longer on the basis of drug

penetration considerations.

We do need a controlled study and I have made some plans but as I, as a

PhD, unfortunately cannot treat patients I have to rely on an MD to

cooperate. This takes time to arrange. Besides that so many Lyme physicians

are impossibly busy - that tells you something of the problem of Lyme

disease.

There are sufficient patients responding well that I think the question of

whether Flagyl has any effect is settled. On the basis of the evidence I

have seen I reject any assertion that Flagyl just doesn't work.

Is it better or different than IV cephalosporins or oral

macrolides/tetracyclines/penicillins? That's a more difficult question.

Many routinely used drugs are even difficult to differentiate from placebo.

A lot of therapy is not based on evidence but rather on the physician's

belief - belief in some picture of what's happening. Until we have some

good controlled studies, which may be never, all antibiotic therapy falls

into this category. The general argument for choosing Flagyl is the same as

for any other antimicrobial, some impression of efficacy and some view of

its mode of action in-vivo. The in-vitro data showing a hitherto

unsuspected activity against the cyst form gives us a particular rationale

for its use. Open uncontrolled studies and patient reports provide the

impression of efficacy. That's why it important to report if you did well

or gained no benefit from treatment - exactly the subject of this thread.

[Guest guest]

same here with a strict diet....b l e c h !! Just meat and steamed vegies

for me - and no mouthwash.

I would love to be at hte conference tommorrow to hear what Dr. Horrowitz

has to say! (I think I got the name right, lol) It is tommorrow, right? doh!

Anita

Re: [Lyme-aid] flagyl

>From: BratDet@...

>

>In a message dated 9/24/99 7:56:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>mellillo1@... writes:

>

><< Any alcohol, even the tiniest drop can

> cause a violent reaction. She told me vanilla extract, mouthwash, some

> vinegars, and a host of other things can cause a reaction and that is why

> she tries to stay away from it if she can. >>

>interesting premise...never heard it before...my husband is on Flagyl 500 3

>times a day..

>on it now 17 days without a problem...he is not a drinker and we do not use

>mouthwash...we rarely use vinegar...and no vanilla extract...now you have

me

>thinking deeper about if there are other possibilities....Esp. since if my

>testing comes back positive, I am sure my LLMD will stick me on Flagyl

>too...just a hunch..

>

>M Atkinson Barr had an interesting post recently on the subject of Flagyl

and

>reactions...I paste 2 different postings below the 2nd is just way

>interesting b

>

>ubject: Re: Flagyl side effects

>From: Atkinson-Barr <A

>HREF= " mailto:mcmab@... " >mcmab@...</A>

>Date: Sun, 12 September 1999 10:57 AM EDT

>Message-id: <37DBBF76.E6F4AA08@...>

>mike7701@... wrote:

>

>> I've been on it for 10 days, 1500 mg/day along with doxy. The first

>> six days I was in a fog, occasional upset stomach, 1-2 bouts of cold

>> sweats, and a metallic taste in my mouth. Last four days have been

>> smooth sailing. Actually been clear headed for the first time in

>> months. I am curious what I'm going to experience at herx time.

>>

>> Mike

>>

>

>Here's a heads up of what to expect from my observations:

>

>Things will get worse before you get better.

>

>At 14-28 days your cognitive function may decline. It seems that after

>that all the cognitive effects of Lyme can be reversed - i.e. no

>permanent damage from the Lyme.

>

>At any time between about 14 and 60 days you may experience a " crisis " ,

>with palpitations & shortness of breath for a few hours. Some people

>have required a visit to the hospital.

>

>At days 21-28 you may get very depressed. Fatigue will be a problem

>until about day 90. Your sleep patterns wil change, perhaps with periods

>on intense, deep sleep.

>

>There will be a long period when you are at 90-95% of normal. The last

>few % takes a long time.

>

>Good luck

>ubject: Re: Have you been helped with Flagyl?

>From: Atkinson-Barr <A

>HREF= " mailto:mcmab@... " >mcmab@...</A>

>Date: Sun, 19 September 1999 04:43 PM EDT

>Message-id: <37E54B09.6E7EA11C@...>

>

>Update:

>

>When I first was sufficiently convinced of the efficacy of Flagyl, in late

>1998, I went public to garner some interest from some treating MDs.

>Fortunately some tried it and obtained the same results as I had seen.

>

>A year later the early promise of Flagyl continues to be confirmed. Almost

>every day I receive e-mails and telephone calls from Lyme sufferers

>reporting their good results and many similar calls from physicians.

>

>Some cases have not seen the good results they had hoped. Sometimes the

>Lyme patient feels so much worse they discontinue treatment. This is a

>consequence of Flagyl and things turn around usually at 2-3 months though

>some have gone up to 4 months without improvement. On the other hand we

>have seen a number of miracle responses - complete elimination of symptoms

>in a few weeks - even in severe cases unresponsive to other therapies. Some

>people have reported that they did not feel improved until after stopping

>Flagyl. Perhaps some people get no benefit at all - but I have not observed

>any clear cut cases that fall into this category.

>

>Treatment failures usually seem to be the result of stopping Flagyl too

>early but Horowitz reported that babesia can inhibit Flagyl's

>effect. I note that treatment at 6 months continues to give rise to subtle

>improvements and that the improvements come in areas related to nerve

>function that I would expect to take longer on the basis of drug

>penetration considerations.

>

>We do need a controlled study and I have made some plans but as I, as a

>PhD, unfortunately cannot treat patients I have to rely on an MD to

>cooperate. This takes time to arrange. Besides that so many Lyme physicians

>are impossibly busy - that tells you something of the problem of Lyme

>disease.

>

>There are sufficient patients responding well that I think the question of

>whether Flagyl has any effect is settled. On the basis of the evidence I

>have seen I reject any assertion that Flagyl just doesn't work.

>

>Is it better or different than IV cephalosporins or oral

>macrolides/tetracyclines/penicillins? That's a more difficult question.

>Many routinely used drugs are even difficult to differentiate from placebo.

>A lot of therapy is not based on evidence but rather on the physician's

>belief - belief in some picture of what's happening. Until we have some

>good controlled studies, which may be never, all antibiotic therapy falls

>into this category. The general argument for choosing Flagyl is the same as

>for any other antimicrobial, some impression of efficacy and some view of

>its mode of action in-vivo. The in-vitro data showing a hitherto

>unsuspected activity against the cyst form gives us a particular rationale

>for its use. Open uncontrolled studies and patient reports provide the

>impression of efficacy. That's why it important to report if you did well

>or gained no benefit from treatment - exactly the subject of this thread.

>

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In a message dated 9/24/99 6:57:07 PM Central Daylight Time,

mellillo1@... writes:

<< As you guys know, Flagyl is

used for alcoholics trying to quit. Any alcohol, even the tiniest drop can

cause a violent reaction. >>

I have never read that it is used for alcoholics to try to quit. And I will

tell you, I have had alcohol while taking Flagyl and have felt no worse or

better.

I must have an iron stomach. I don't doubt that no alcohol would be better,

but it has caused no such reaction in me. I think the doctor is just trying

to keep you from drinking.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/4/99 11:42:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Golfdawg@... writes:

<< I think the doctor is just trying

to keep you from drinking. >>

A label is put on the bottle to warn anyone taking Flagyl a drug interaction

may result...just like a drug can cause dizziness...doesn't mean it

will...just too strong a possibility not to warn the patient taking the med B

[Guest guest]

And having antibiotics in your brain is a good thing?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/6/99 6:58:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

lisa86@... writes:

<< And having antibiotics in your brain is a good thing?

>>

Sure beats spirochetes in your brain <grin> Bernadette

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/7/99 10:13:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

mellillo1@... writes:

<< She is just convinced it is hard to keep other alcohol from the

diet.SHaron >>

my husband is now on Flagyl 30 days strating his 2nd month and no alcohol in

his diet at all ...and travels for business and does not use cologne...nor

mouthwash..it has been a no-brainer for him to avoid alcohol....the only

change is now we can turn down his friend when he calls once a month or so to

" go out for a beer " Bernadette

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I don't know what the big deal is either. I'm already on a strict yeast

diet, I dont drink, avoid perfumes, hairsprays, etc....no big deal for me.

I've had enough, I'll do whatever it takes!

Anita

Re: [Lyme-aid] flagyl

>From: BratDet@...

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>In a message dated 10/7/99 10:13:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

>mellillo1@... writes:

><< She is just convinced it is hard to keep other alcohol from the

>diet.SHaron >>

>my husband is now on Flagyl 30 days strating his 2nd month and no alcohol

in

>his diet at all ...and travels for business and does not use cologne...nor

>mouthwash..it has been a no-brainer for him to avoid alcohol....the only

>change is now we can turn down his friend when he calls once a month or so

to

> " go out for a beer " Bernadette

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Ditto here Anita,

I'll do what ever it takes..........my Dr. also told me no

alcohol.....because alcohol and Flagyl don't mix........in fact she told me

some patients refuse to go on the flagyl, because of the restriction of

alcohol.......they just don't want to give up having wine with their

dinner..........my only thought to that........I guess they aren't feeling

sick enough.......Connie

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In a message dated 10/7/99 6:24:11 PM Central Daylight Time,

conniek@... writes:

<< 'll do what ever it takes..........my Dr. also told me no

alcohol.....because alcohol and Flagyl don't mix........in fact she told me

some patients refuse to go on the flagyl, because of the restriction of

alcohol.......they just don't want to give up having wine with their

dinner..........my only thought to that........I guess they aren't feeling

sick enough.......Connie

>>

Whatever...I pretty much discard about half of what doctors say anyway

considering all the misdiagnosis and mistreatment I have received for this

illness. If it ever makes me sick I won't have another drink. But it never

has made me feel that way. However, if it is supposed to be used for

alcoholics to stop drinking, it doesn't work very well if at all.