neck pain

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/04/2002 3:23:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, stevku@... writes:

I often get pain in my neck, in the thyroid area

and also on the sides of my neck. Is this common or do you think that

something else is going on?

Hi Liz,

I had quite severe neck pain for about a year from swollen thyroid gland mostly on my right side where the goiter was. It felt like an intense aching/soreness in the tissues, not in the vertebrae. It would get worse from eating soy and goitrogens and stress. It seems to have receded lately and is nearly gone the longer I've been on the T3.

Still, if you have any concerns about your neck pain, vertebral function, or nerve health I would encourage you to have it checked out. That way you will have full information and an understanding about what's going on.

in LA

"We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or even *can* be." Oprah Winfrey

[Guest guest]

Thanks !!!!

> In a message dated 02/04/2002 3:23:19 PM Pacific Standard Time,

> stevku@j... writes:

>

>

> > I often get pain in my neck, in the thyroid area

> > and also on the sides of my neck. Is this common or do you think

that

> > something else is going on?

> >

>

> Hi Liz,

>

> I had quite severe neck pain for about a year from swollen thyroid

gland

> mostly on my right side where the goiter was. It felt like an

intense

> aching/soreness in the tissues, not in the vertebrae. It would get

worse

> from eating soy and goitrogens and stress. It seems to have

receded lately

> and is nearly gone the longer I've been on the T3.

>

> Still, if you have any concerns about your neck pain, vertebral

function, or

> nerve health I would encourage you to have it checked out. That

way you will

> have full information and an understanding about what's going on.

>

> in LA

> " We are each responsible for our own life--no other person is or

even *can*

> be. " Oprah Winfrey

[Guest guest]

According to many thyroid books I've read, pain discomfort, feeling like there's a lump in your throat and difficulty swallowing all signs of hypothyroidism.

Tammy

Neck Pain

Hi Everyone,I've asked this before, however it was before I knew that I had multinodules on my thyroid. I often get pain in my neck, in the thyroid areaand also on the sides of my neck. Is this common or do you think thatsomething else is going on?Thanks!!!!Liz________________________________________________________________GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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swHY DOESN " T YOUR HUSBAND MOW THE LAWN???

(Editor's Note: I think we cannot judge another's life. There can be many

reasons why a husband cannot mow a lawn, ranging from a physical disability, to

a heart condition, to alcoholism, etc. Please, let's not shout at one another

because what seems to be a simple solution for one person is an impossibility

for another. Kathy F. )

[Guest guest]

Very well said Kathy.... I can't mow the yard due to health, and my husband

can't either. He has severe allergies. He does do it sometimes and ends up

very sick. One of us has to be able to work, and we cant afford for him to

get sick.. so my brother comes over and does it....I can think of alot of

reasons a hubby wouldn't be able to.

On 8/1/06, pretzelb3@... <pretzelb3@...> wrote:

>

> swHY DOESN " T YOUR HUSBAND MOW THE LAWN???

>

> (Editor's Note: I think we cannot judge another's life. There can be many

> reasons why a husband cannot mow a lawn, ranging from a physical disability,

> to a heart condition, to alcoholism, etc. Please, let's not shout at one

> another because what seems to be a simple solution for one person is an

> impossibility for another. Kathy F. )

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tammy, I hope you did not over due it outside... Its not as hot here now,

finally we got some rain... Unfortunately in Texas not an hour from Las Cruces

it was flooded in a lot of area's... I feel bad for them... We usually need the

rain, but I was shocked to find that they got flooded as did several other

area's and our own I10 was closed down, they said the highway was too bad to

allow others threw... Weird weather we have around here... Please keep us

informed how things went... Maybe you and your hubby could hire a teen for like

$20.00 every now and then to do the mowing as you cant, and your husband is

busy... That could be a solution... Us PA and Fibro's have little energy and a

lot of pain... Its hard enough just getting out of bed let alone try mowing,

housework and laundry ect... Im lucky if I an cook a meal and walk a few minutes

into a store for groceries... We did that today, and now I cant sleep, and I am

hurting a lot... Good luck on that and I hope you didn't over due...

Love and Peace Always

Shaun and Barb

[Guest guest]

Thanks for everyone who gave me a word of encouragement!! I don't know what I

would do with out having you to talk to and express myself.

First let me say that I did go out and mow my back yard and the side yard

which isn't that big, honestly. I had a young man walk up to me, which sorta

agraviated me because....duh can't he see that I am busy? He was selling

replacement windows and wanted to know if he could set up an appointment with me

and Darrell on a home estimate on the replacement windows. I was nice, I

listened to him and even offered him somthing to drink. I was just in a hurry

because I heard a mower going while he was telling how wonderful his Air tite

windows are. I thought to myself... I thought someone is mowing the front

yard!! It was it was my neighbor Tom. He wanted to help Darrell out because

Darrell, when he got off work at 7:00 pm was going to go work on Tom's car AFTER

HE MOWED our yard. Darrell didn't want me to mow. He would have told me not to

worry about it if I had told him that I was going to mow it. I believe that God

helps those who help themselves. Tom maybe would

not have came down to mow if he had not seen me out there trying to do it.

I know that I need to listen to my body. I really do, and I will try harder

to do that. I wan't to expain something first if I may. Darrell and Lost our

first child to crib death and when I had our boys he let me stay home. No

matter what it cost him. Darrell worked two jobs for awhile. He would get up

and have to be at work at 7:00 am and get home around 4:00. He at that time

quickly showered, ate and had to be at the 2nd job around 5:00. He worked that

job until 12:00 am and then start the whole thing over on the next day. Unless

he was off or something. So I got into the habit of mowing and wanting to help

him out. That was 20 years ago and thank God that things are some what better.

He only works one and I am back to work myself. My summer vacation ends on

Monday and I will head back ready to prepair for the 1st day of school.

This PA thing is so new to me or should I say us. I was just DX in May and I

have to learn my limits. As of now the worst thing that I have noticed that I

allow to happen is to let myself get stressed out over something. That right

there will cause a flair like no other. Darrell is wonderful!! He honestly is

my soul mate, I have been with him since I was 14 and we married at 19. Wow

that was almost 24 years ago!! I am thank ful that he doesn't drink or have a

serious health condition that would keep him from doing the things that he loves

and the things that he had to do.

If it wasn't for the neighbor and the window salesman then.... I might not be

typing to you now. I was just stiff in the ankles and shoulders and that is all

the results.

Everyone have a great day!!!

Tammy In Ky

pretzelb3@... wrote:

swHY DOESN " T YOUR HUSBAND MOW THE LAWN???

(Editor's Note: I think we cannot judge another's life. There can be many

reasons why a husband cannot mow a lawn, ranging from a physical disability, to

a heart condition, to alcoholism, etc. Please, let's not shout at one another

because what seems to be a simple solution for one person is an impossibility

for another. Kathy F. )

[Guest guest]

Tammy...I love the way you see things. -Betz

> swHY DOESN " T YOUR HUSBAND MOW THE LAWN???

>

> (Editor's Note: I think we cannot judge another's life. There can

be many reasons why a husband cannot mow a lawn, ranging from a

physical disability, to a heart condition, to alcoholism, etc.

Please, let's not shout at one another because what seems to be a

simple solution for one person is an impossibility for another.

Kathy F. )

>

[Guest guest]

Sharon,

Thanks so much for the reply it touched my heart. I will show it to Darrell I

know that he will appreciate it as well.

If I may give one secret to our success. I met Darrell in church and we try

our best to live my God's principals. We're not perfect..... notice I said we

TRY OUR BEST

Which means I am not judgeing anyone here. All of you mean so much to me, I

feel like that we already know each other.

We need to one day work on getting together and finding a central location

meeting place and some of us that live in the midwest get together and the ones

that live out west get together. It's just a thought maybe one day..... just

maybe.

Have a great day

Tammy

sharon medeiros <sharonm757@...> wrote:

Tammy,

That is a beautiful story of you and Darrel. I

understand completely why you would want to help him

any way you can. If I had a husband like yours I would

do just like you do. To think you have been together

since you were 14! That is amazing these days. Do not

ever think that you have to defend you or Darrel

because we do not know your history, and the hx that

you have given us is beautiful. If it had been me I

would have been out there crawling behind that mower,

knowing what a wonderful husband I had. I envy you not

jealous envy there is a difference. I would love to

have had the life you have. You are so blessed. I am

too, knowing a person like you. Really though listen

to your body, don't over do it. I wish you many more

blissful years and pain free days with your husband,

if I had the money I would send you two on a mini

vacation, just because your story is so beautiful to

me and it was what I wanted out of life and didn't

get, so finding someone who did makes me so very happy

for myself and you two. If Darrel is reading this you

are one in a million just like Tammy is to you. My

prayers and blessings are sent to you both everyday

from now on. Sharon

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[Guest guest]

Tammy,

It would be wonderful if we could all decide on a

place to meet when everyone has a vacation or time off

from work. I would love to meet the people I love so

dearly in person.

Sharon

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/08/2006 12:45:34 GMT Daylight Time,

celticangyl@... writes:

Very well said Kathy.... I can't mow the yard due to health, and my husband

can't either. He has severe allergies. He does do it sometimes and ends up

very sick. One of us has to be able to work, and we cant afford for him to

get sick.. so my brother comes over and does it....I can think of alot of

reasons a hubby wouldn't be able to.

Hi ,

My wife has taken over mowing our lawn as I struggle with it. I feel very

guilty about it and I would attempt it but my wife insists that I shouldn't be

doing it. I do the strimming but I even find that back breaking and it's not as

if it is an awful lot to do.

Part of it is what worrying what your neighbours think, 'Oh she is out there

cutting the grass and he is inside the house.' So I can understand both ways

of looking at it.

I should say that our close neighbours know my situation so maybe they will

be saying, 'Why is he out there strimming in his condition!' lol

Take care,

[Guest guest]

in body ecology it says that when we have candida and a congested liver

eating fat can cause neck and shoulder pain. i had relaly bad neck and

shoulder pain when i 1st increased my fat intake but it is ok now. maybe

your body has to get used to it?

monique

alien01030 wrote:

>

> I have been working on my changed lifestyle for aproximately 12 weeks.

> I have lost over 10 lbs. My coconut oil intake is 2-4 tbs /day. I am

> taking digestive enzymes, 1000mg vitamin C, acidopholis and

> gloucosimine,condroitin daily. I have virtually eliminated my intake

> of refined sugars and carbs.

>

> My question is: I have been suffering from neck pain / fatigue for 2

> months. I have been treating it with massage only (once/wk). I was

> told by a friend that it could be my thyroid due to my new eating

> habits.

> If this is possible, does anyone have any suggestions for remedy? I am

> refraining from taking any medications whatsoever but I am becoming

> desparate for relief.

>

> Otherwise I feel great. Better than i have in years.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Magnesium glycinate will help your neck.

[ ] Neck Pain

I have been working on my changed lifestyle for aproximately 12 weeks.

I have lost over 10 lbs. My coconut oil intake is 2-4 tbs /day. I am

taking digestive enzymes, 1000mg vitamin C, acidopholis and

gloucosimine,condroitin daily. I have virtually eliminated my intake

of refined sugars and carbs.

My question is: I have been suffering from neck pain / fatigue for 2

months. I have been treating it with massage only (once/wk). I was

told by a friend that it could be my thyroid due to my new eating

habits.

If this is possible, does anyone have any suggestions for remedy? I am

refraining from taking any medications whatsoever but I am becoming

desparate for relief.

Otherwise I feel great. Better than i have in years.

[Guest guest]

It could also be die-off of the yeast (imho). I've been taking the

lemon/celtic salt and it really has given me relief of the neck pain.

Jan (new here)

[Guest guest]

Hi alien01030,

I also suffer from the neck pain and shoulder pain (

then it can turn into a bad headache sometimes),

according to Chinese medicine that area does

corrispond with the Liver and Gallbladder. I have been

getting acupuncture for this and it has really helped

with the pain and the headaches. I cannot tolerate too

much fat and need to cut back, maybe slowly add more

as to how you feel.

take care,

Jess

>>> " My question is: I have been suffering from neck

pain / fatigue for 2

months. I have been treating it with massage only

(once/wk). I was

told by a friend that it could be my thyroid due to my

new eating

habits. "

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[Guest guest]

it wasn't die off for me. i think al the fat detoxes your

liver/gallbladder and initally that can cause severe neck shoulder pain

and it was severe. i cut back on fat for a couple mos and then gradually

eased it up. bee - do you know about that? i know donna gates talks

about it in BED.

monique

Jan wrote:

>

> It could also be die-off of the yeast (imho). I've been taking the

> lemon/celtic salt and it really has given me relief of the neck pain.

> Jan (new here)

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been working on my changed lifestyle for aproximately 12

weeks. I have lost over 10 lbs. My coconut oil intake is 2-4

tbs /day. I am taking digestive enzymes, 1000mg vitamin C,

acidopholis and gloucosimine,condroitin daily. I have virtually

eliminated my intake of refined sugars and carbs.

==>I hope losing weight was a good thing for you. I assume you are

taking glucosamine and chrondroditin for some type of arthritis?

Did you know that on this diet it wouldn't be necessary - see these

article: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_3_1.php

==>It is advisable that you take 4000 mg vitamin C daily per my

article: " Vitamin C, containing rosehips, citrus bioflavonoids,

hesperidin and rutin. Take 4,000 mgs in divided doses (1,000 mgs 4

times per day). The best combination of vitamin C to take is 1,000

mg of a supplement containing rosehips, citrus bioflavonoids,

hesperidin and rutin, plus 3,000 mg of sodium ascorbate = 4,000 mg

total.

Sodium ascorbate is a combination of powdered ascorbic acid crystals

and baking soda. Most ascorbic acid products contain 1,000 to 1,200

mgs of vitamin C for each 1/4 teaspoon. Mix equal amounts of

ascorbic acid and baking soda, and add about 1/2 - 3/4 cup of

filtered water.

If you get loose stools by taking 4,000 mgs per day you might need

to start with less and gradually increase it. "

==>Also you should be taking calcium and magnesium as well as

Vitamin B Complex, Vitamin E, Cod liver oil, etc. - please re-check

your supplements against the list in the article.

> My question is: I have been suffering from neck pain / fatigue for

2 months. I have been treating it with massage only (once/wk). I was

> told by a friend that it could be my thyroid due to my new eating

> habits.

==>It is extremely important that you take all of the supplements

recommended along with the diet because they work together. None of

the supplements should be left out. Your neck pain could be caused

by not having enough calcium and magnesium and also you need trace

minerals by having enough ocean sea salt recommended in my article.

>This diet wouldn't cause thyroid problems because it is like

traditional diets that were eaten long before the industrialization

of our foods. However candida does cause thyroid problems. Also if

you had ever had neck problems in the past or had an injury this

diet will make your body go through re-tracing during natural

healing per Hering's Law of Cures - see my main candida article for

more important on this or do a site search on my website for natural

healing or Hering's for more information.

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi alien01030,

>

> I also suffer from the neck pain and shoulder pain (

> then it can turn into a bad headache sometimes),

> according to Chinese medicine that area does

> corrispond with the Liver and Gallbladder. I have been

> getting acupuncture for this and it has really helped

> with the pain and the headaches. I cannot tolerate too

> much fat and need to cut back, maybe slowly add more

> as to how you feel.

==>Hi Jess. I'm curious when you say you cannot tolerate too much

fat. What problems does it cause you?

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> it wasn't die off for me. i think al the fat detoxes your

> liver/gallbladder and initally that can cause severe neck shoulder

pain and it was severe. i cut back on fat for a couple mos and then

gradually eased it up. bee - do you know about that? i know donna

gates talks about it in BED.

==>Hi . Good fats like butter and coconut oil are antifungal

so they will kill off candida as well as some foods in the diet.

But since the diet is also cutting off candida's main food supply,

i.e. sugars and high carbs it is also killing off candida. The

combination causes die-off symptoms (healing/detoxing symptoms)

because of the high numbers of killed yeasts which put out toxins.

So it isn't just the fats causing problems. It is interesting that

good fats also help the body detoxify.

>Toxins will go into different areas of the body causing pain and

stiffness, including the neck and shoulders and other muscles,

particularly the legs and the head, and they will also move around.

Coffee enemas help the liver handle toxins better and they also

decongest the liver and adrenals. There are other suggestions in my

article to help handle die-off symptoms as well, or see these

articles: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu1_3.php

>It is best to start on fats gradually like my article " Curing

Candida, How to Started " suggests:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

Bee

[Guest guest]

Thank You Bee, You are a wonderful lady.> >

> > I have been working on my changed lifestyle for aproximately 12

> weeks. I have lost over 10 lbs. My coconut oil intake is 2-4

> tbs /day. I am taking digestive enzymes, 1000mg vitamin C,

> acidopholis and gloucosimine,condroitin daily. I have virtually

> eliminated my intake of refined sugars and carbs.

>

> ==>I hope losing weight was a good thing for you. I assume you

are

> taking glucosamine and chrondroditin for some type of arthritis?

> Did you know that on this diet it wouldn't be necessary - see

these

> article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu4_3_1.php

>

> ==>It is advisable that you take 4000 mg vitamin C daily per my

> article: " Vitamin C, containing rosehips, citrus bioflavonoids,

> hesperidin and rutin. Take 4,000 mgs in divided doses (1,000 mgs 4

> times per day). The best combination of vitamin C to take is 1,000

> mg of a supplement containing rosehips, citrus bioflavonoids,

> hesperidin and rutin, plus 3,000 mg of sodium ascorbate = 4,000 mg

> total.

>

> Sodium ascorbate is a combination of powdered ascorbic acid

crystals

> and baking soda. Most ascorbic acid products contain 1,000 to

1,200

> mgs of vitamin C for each 1/4 teaspoon. Mix equal amounts of

> ascorbic acid and baking soda, and add about 1/2 - 3/4 cup of

> filtered water.

>

> If you get loose stools by taking 4,000 mgs per day you might need

> to start with less and gradually increase it. "

>

> ==>Also you should be taking calcium and magnesium as well as

> Vitamin B Complex, Vitamin E, Cod liver oil, etc. - please re-

check

> your supplements against the list in the article.

>

> > My question is: I have been suffering from neck pain / fatigue

for

> 2 months. I have been treating it with massage only (once/wk). I

was

> > told by a friend that it could be my thyroid due to my new

eating

> > habits.

>

> ==>It is extremely important that you take all of the supplements

> recommended along with the diet because they work together. None

of

> the supplements should be left out. Your neck pain could be

caused

> by not having enough calcium and magnesium and also you need trace

> minerals by having enough ocean sea salt recommended in my article.

>

> >This diet wouldn't cause thyroid problems because it is like

> traditional diets that were eaten long before the

industrialization

> of our foods. However candida does cause thyroid problems. Also

if

> you had ever had neck problems in the past or had an injury this

> diet will make your body go through re-tracing during natural

> healing per Hering's Law of Cures - see my main candida article

for

> more important on this or do a site search on my website for

natural

> healing or Hering's for more information.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

how does it help? recomm. dosage?

SCD Traveler wrote:

>

> Magnesium glycinate will help your neck.

>

> [ ] Neck Pain

>

> I have been working on my changed lifestyle for aproximately 12 weeks.

> I have lost over 10 lbs. My coconut oil intake is 2-4 tbs /day. I am

> taking digestive enzymes, 1000mg vitamin C, acidopholis and

> gloucosimine,condroitin daily. I have virtually eliminated my intake

> of refined sugars and carbs.

>

> My question is: I have been suffering from neck pain / fatigue for 2

> months. I have been treating it with massage only (once/wk). I was

> told by a friend that it could be my thyroid due to my new eating

> habits.

> If this is possible, does anyone have any suggestions for remedy? I am

> refraining from taking any medications whatsoever but I am becoming

> desparate for relief.

>

> Otherwise I feel great. Better than i have in years.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Trying to finance it all I've taken to buying my mag from a compound pharmacy to

save money for all that meat.

So I take 1/4 a teaspoon almost every day.

I started taking it because I was having leg cramps in the middle of the night.

The cramping stopped and some where along the way I realized my chronic tight

neck no longer burned. So any time I feel the tension in my neck I have to ask

myself have I taken it for a day or two? With so much to do caring for myself

it's easy to miss and item or two. But it's one thing that always says " remember

me " .

There's a tremendous amount of information on the web regarding magnesium and

the major deficiency here in the usa.

My understanding is that it far surpasses our calcium deficiency .

Plus with a good cleansing diet like the anti-Candida it very necessary because

Mag. binds to toxins and carries them out of the body.

[ ] Neck Pain

>

> I have been working on my changed lifestyle for aproximately 12 weeks.

> I have lost over 10 lbs. My coconut oil intake is 2-4 tbs /day. I am

> taking digestive enzymes, 1000mg vitamin C, acidopholis and

> gloucosimine,condroitin daily. I have virtually eliminated my intake

> of refined sugars and carbs.

>

> My question is: I have been suffering from neck pain / fatigue for 2

> months. I have been treating it with massage only (once/wk). I was

> told by a friend that it could be my thyroid due to my new eating

> habits.

> If this is possible, does anyone have any suggestions for remedy? I am

> refraining from taking any medications whatsoever but I am becoming

> desparate for relief.

>

> Otherwise I feel great. Better than i have in years.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> how does it help? recomm. dosage?

==> most neck pain experienced by candida sufferers is caused

by toxins/die-off. When taking magnesium always take calcium along

with it per the amounts recommended in my main article.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Angie,

I can feel for you. I've been having problems with my neck and

shoulders for years. I finally had a rheumy tell me there wasn't

anything he could do for my spine. Duh, he can't do the surgery to

correct problems with my spine. He was surprised when I went to my GP

and got a referral to a spine surgeon. Even more when I told him I was

having surgery to correct some of the problems I was having.

I just had Cervical spinal fusion, along with a lot of bone spurs

scraped out. This was in the middle of December. It's helped some

things. According to my doctor's PA, I should expect things to get

better over time. I would do it again just for the relief I have

gotten at this point. The major one being less referred nerve pain

that was going down my right arm. Unexpected, was the absence of

headaches since I had the surgery. That said, I've been getting knots

in the muscles in my neck from wearing the cervical collar, next week I

hope to go to a padded neck collar. So, I am hoping this is short term

muscle pain. I am also going through the lack of RA meds I had to stop

because of the surgery, and a sinus infection. So I have a flare up of

my RA. I get tendonitis, and tendosynovitis from RA too. What I've

been doing is heat, cold, NSAIDs, Vicodin, and a muscle relaxer. What

I have found in the past that really helped was massage, but I can't

afford that right now. Physical Therapy with a combination TENS, ultra-

sound, and massage has helped in the past.

The problem of neck pain is that it is usually a combination of

things. RA and OA in the spine, knots in your muscles, tendonitis,

shoulder RA. So it's a uphill to get everything calmed down to the

point where you aren't in pain.

See if you can get referral to a good Physical Therapy Program. If

might not 'cure' you, but you may feel better.

[Guest guest]

Did you call your rheumatologist to see if they can prescribe anything? Like a

prednisone pack for the inflammation.

Celeste

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From: ahampton002

I'm having pain in my neck bad.