Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 My friend has dystonia which appeared when she took a spill at work on a slippery floor. Others have also spontaneously developed this illness. It is bizarre, but I would suspect that something else happened that she is not connecting to the illness but is blaming the flu shot. Roni <>Just because something isn't seen doesn't mean it's not there<> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 You just wonder what does through these doctor's minds. I mean, really, if these shots are so benign they can't possibly do harm, what makes them think they have any power to do good? I just saw a picture of a good friend in the local paper getting a flu shot...cringe... Winnie flu shotvaccinations > > I was completely appalled today! I mainly stay at home with my > boys but occasionally work at a skilled nursing facility as an > occupational therapist. Today I was doing an evaluation on a > patient and reading that person's history and physical from the > hospital, it stated about a week ago, the patient had a runny > nose, sore throat, cough and chills, so the doctor gave them a > flu shot! (What?? are you kidding me???) Mind you, this > individual was living at home independent with all tasks and > very active. Fast forward one week. This person is now > incontinent of bowel and bladder, has confusion, and has been > given the diagnoses of community acquired pneumonia and > metabolic encephalopathy!> > I was just dumbfounded! And, not one mention that any of this > is probably related to the flu shot that was given a week ago, > when this person was already sick! HIGHLY doubtful it was > reported to VAERS... It was completely irresponsible on the > doctor's part to even give this person the flu shot and now > completely blind to not even mention this as the patient's side > effect from the flu shot. > > I feel so bad for this patient and family.> > Sorry, just had to vent...> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Yes I got my flu shot last year and was filled with a weird sensation of dread---weird because I've gotten it every year with out any problems or concerns---and just after that my symptoms went nuts and I got the bulls eye rash then even though I had been bit 2 years prior to that and had been sick for two years. If you go on the Lyme Group at MD Junction and search under vaccines you'll see tons of similar stories. My big concern is my daughter who has respiratory issues and is tiny, each cold is a serious concern for her. We've given her the flu shot every year but this year (I suspect she has congenital Lyme)I'm scared the shot might unhinge her as I see a lot of her issues acting up. She has no flu titers/protection despite the yearly shots. My LLMD suggested I get her a 1/2 dose of the thimerisol free version if I can get it--that sounds like a good compromise but still such a tough decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 our natropath/homeopath says NO. May even want to stay home from school a couple days when classmates are having their vaccine clinic. There is this stuff called oscilliam that you can get at any health food store and if you just take a little everyday durign flu season it seems to build up your tolerance... we got through the season with no shots last year just using that stuff.... good luck! From: margaret_behrns <spamneggs@...> Subject: [ ] Flu Shot Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 7:28 AM Â Yes I got my flu shot last year and was filled with a weird sensation of dread---weird because I've gotten it every year with out any problems or concerns---and just after that my symptoms went nuts and I got the bulls eye rash then even though I had been bit 2 years prior to that and had been sick for two years. If you go on the Lyme Group at MD Junction and search under vaccines you'll see tons of similar stories. My big concern is my daughter who has respiratory issues and is tiny, each cold is a serious concern for her. We've given her the flu shot every year but this year (I suspect she has congenital Lyme)I'm scared the shot might unhinge her as I see a lot of her issues acting up. She has no flu titers/protection despite the yearly shots. My LLMD suggested I get her a 1/2 dose of the thimerisol free version if I can get it--that sounds like a good compromise but still such a tough decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 I have done a lot of vaccine research/earning over the past few years. As far as I know, there are NO thimerosal free FLU vaccines in the USA! Unless something has changed quite recently, anyone who tells you anything different is either uneducated about it, or lying to you. Flu vaccines are the one vaccine that no manufacturer can/will make thimerosal free for some reason. A little internet research should reveal this. Although thimerosal is horrible to put into anybody's body, especially that of a very young child - there are so many other substances, fillers, and preservatives in vaccines that are just as bad in different ways. My daughter has congenital Lyme. Knowing it was a possibility when she was born, I chose NOT to vaccinate her for anything, not even the Hep B in the hospital that they give them when 12 hours old. She's now 3 1/2. She has been sick with Lyme and multiple co-infections since born. However, her Lyme doc and integrative med doc and I shutter to think at where she'd be had we given her any vaccinations... In the end though, it is always a personal decision. Vaccinations are a controversial hot topic, even amongst the healthy, non-Lyme people. You are doing the right thing by looking into this matter and educating yourself on it. Then, all you can do is make the best decision for you and your family based on the information you know at the time. If you are interested, here are a few links that I believe to contain reliable information. http://www.nvic.org/ http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx http://www.vaclib.org/ http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/ Best wishes. [ ] Flu Shot Yes I got my flu shot last year and was filled with a weird sensation of dread---weird because I've gotten it every year with out any problems or concerns---and just after that my symptoms went nuts and I got the bulls eye rash then even though I had been bit 2 years prior to that and had been sick for two years. If you go on the Lyme Group at MD Junction and search under vaccines you'll see tons of similar stories. My big concern is my daughter who has respiratory issues and is tiny, each cold is a serious concern for her. We've given her the flu shot every year but this year (I suspect she has congenital Lyme)I'm scared the shot might unhinge her as I see a lot of her issues acting up. She has no flu titers/protection despite the yearly shots. My LLMD suggested I get her a 1/2 dose of the thimerisol free version if I can get it--that sounds like a good compromise but still such a tough decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 There are a FEW versions of the flu vaccine that are thimerosal free supposedly but do you know which one you'd be getting? Probably not. Also, there is so much more toxic stuff in there, it's the last thing we need to put into our sick kids' bodies. I had a vaccine about 10 years ago when the Lyme was just starting to get me sick but I didn't know what it really was yet. I went from working to bedridden after the hep B within one month. Evil!!! This is the ingredient list of vaccines from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table\ -2.pdf Did you know that the flu shot is only 20% effective admitted by the manufacturer? 80% of the flu viruses in circulation are NOT represented in the shot. Crappy odds for all those toxins IMO. I've never had a flu shot and I think I had a mild flu last year and that was the first time in so many years I couldn't remember. And my daughter was in preschool around all her sickly runny nosed classmates. Virus warnings would come home all the time. I also have done the same as Christa... We have not vaccinated my daughter since birth. Even with the Lyme she is actually sooo much healthier than her peers it's ridiculous but that is a common report among parents like us. Of course she is on antibiotics so in MY case I can't say anything about bacterial stuff but she never even catches viruses. She never misses school. She's never puked on me or had diarrhea or a high fever except during the onset of the Lyme at 2 years old (she's 5 now). Christa gave you some great links and yes, it is controversial which is so sad. Once a person gets really educated about what is going on (lying lying and more lies), there is no way they can vaccinate. Don't work and they're toxic. :/ Jen Lymie parents, 5yo Lymie/Aspie On 11/9/2010 10:14 AM, Christa Sherrod wrote: > > I have done a lot of vaccine research/earning over the past few years. > As far as I know, there are NO thimerosal free FLU vaccines in the > USA! Unless something has changed quite recently, anyone who tells you > anything different is either uneducated about it, or lying to you. Flu > vaccines are the one vaccine that no manufacturer can/will make > thimerosal free for some reason. A little internet research should > reveal this. Although thimerosal is horrible to put into anybody's > body, especially that of a very young child - there are so many other > substances, fillers, and preservatives in vaccines that are just as > bad in different ways. > > My daughter has congenital Lyme. Knowing it was a possibility when she > was born, I chose NOT to vaccinate her for anything, not even the Hep > B in the hospital that they give them when 12 hours old. She's now 3 > 1/2. She has been sick with Lyme and multiple co-infections since > born. However, her Lyme doc and integrative med doc and I shutter to > think at where she'd be had we given her any vaccinations... > > In the end though, it is always a personal decision. Vaccinations are > a controversial hot topic, even amongst the healthy, non-Lyme people. > You are doing the right thing by looking into this matter and > educating yourself on it. Then, all you can do is make the best > decision for you and your family based on the information you know at > the time. > > If you are interested, here are a few links that I believe to contain > reliable information. > > http://www.nvic.org/ > http://drtenpenny.com/default.aspx > http://www.vaclib.org/ > http://www.vaccination.inoz.com/ > > Best wishes. > > [ ] Flu Shot > > Yes I got my flu shot last year and was filled with a weird sensation > of dread---weird because I've gotten it every year with out any > problems or concerns---and just after that my symptoms went nuts and I > got the bulls eye rash then even though I had been bit 2 years prior > to that and had been sick for two years. If you go on the Lyme Group > at MD Junction and search under vaccines you'll see tons of similar > stories. > My big concern is my daughter who has respiratory issues and is tiny, > each cold is a serious concern for her. We've given her the flu shot > every year but this year (I suspect she has congenital Lyme)I'm scared > the shot might unhinge her as I see a lot of her issues acting up. She > has no flu titers/protection despite the yearly shots. My LLMD > suggested I get her a 1/2 dose of the thimerisol free version if I can > get it--that sounds like a good compromise but still such a tough > decision. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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