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Hi Ben!

I have had good success in treating " tennis elbow, " by using

ultrasound and high volt (DC) electrostimulation simultaneously for

5-8 minutes daily. You should see marked improvement within three

treatments. If not, discontinue the treatment.

Good luck!

Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University

In Supertraining@y..., " guraria " <green@g...> wrote:

> I am new to the group -a 45-yr-old clinical psychologist - with a

> request for information on effective treatment for " tennis elbow " -

in

> my case over one year in duration, caused by several days of

> ice-chipping on my roof (I live in Madison, WI). To this point, I've

> had a cortisone shot, multiple sessions of iontophoresis, a lot of

> physical therapy and chiropractic treatment - including several

> unsuccessful sessions of " ART " (Active Release Techniques), and

several

> prolotherapy injections.

>

> I was keenly interested to read Dr. Siff's comments about

> microcurrent/ " electrets " and he invited my asking the group for

> info/feedback as well re: effective treatment/rehab/tendon

> strengthening. I have regained a good deal of my functional strength

> so far, though the pain over the tendon insertion(lateral

> epicondyle) remains and the elbow quickly aches after being in the

bent

> position (e.g. writing notes, sleeping, etc.) My sports medicine

> physician is not encouraging surgery, which I'm happy to avoid so

long

> as I can find something else that might help. I would greatly

> appreciate any info/advice anyone might have!

>

> [some quick feedback on those tiny adhesive electret " band-aids "

which I

> discussed some months ago. I have used them quite extensively for a

wide

> variety of musculoskeletal problems, but generally have found them

to

> offer no noticeable benefit, though microcurrent sometimes can be

very

> effective with the same conditions. Since the electrets cannot

apply

> varying electrical currents, it would appear that the frequency and

> waveform of the applied electrical field may well be very important

> to the efficacy of electrotherapy, as is indicated by the

literature. Mel Siff]

>

> Thanks very much.

>

> Ben Green

> Madison, WI

> green@g...

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Hi Dan!

I tried to post a reply to you yesterday, but not sure if it got sent

correctly (admittedly a novice on posting...) In any case, thanks very

much for your suggestion! In fact, I saw my sports med doc this

morning, shared your info, and he arranged sessions of the treatment

you describe at the OT clinic. Had my first one a half hour later -

nobody was familiar with using the equipment for tennis elbow, so a

learning experience for everyone. I could hardly notice any sensation

during the treatment, which was a bit surprising to the aide

administering it. Scheduled for 2 more this week, and then will

evaluate, as you recommend. May I ask (please feel free to disregard

if this is inconvenient) if there might be any further information

about this you could share or direct me to, e.g. references, articles

or websites? (my physician as well as the sports med/OT dept's are

very interested as well). Again, many thanks! Sincerely, Ben Green,

Madison, WI green@...

> > I am new to the group -a 45-yr-old clinical psychologist - with a

> > request for information on effective treatment for " tennis elbow "

-

> in

> > my case over one year in duration, caused by several days of

> > ice-chipping on my roof (I live in Madison, WI). To this point,

I've

> > had a cortisone shot, multiple sessions of iontophoresis, a lot of

> > physical therapy and chiropractic treatment - including several

> > unsuccessful sessions of " ART " (Active Release Techniques), and

> several

> > prolotherapy injections.

> >

> > I was keenly interested to read Dr. Siff's comments about

> > microcurrent/ " electrets " and he invited my asking the group for

> > info/feedback as well re: effective treatment/rehab/tendon

> > strengthening. I have regained a good deal of my functional

strength

> > so far, though the pain over the tendon insertion(lateral

> > epicondyle) remains and the elbow quickly aches after being in the

> bent

> > position (e.g. writing notes, sleeping, etc.) My sports medicine

> > physician is not encouraging surgery, which I'm happy to avoid so

> long

> > as I can find something else that might help. I would greatly

> > appreciate any info/advice anyone might have!

> >

> > [some quick feedback on those tiny adhesive electret " band-aids "

> which I

> > discussed some months ago. I have used them quite extensively for

a

> wide

> > variety of musculoskeletal problems, but generally have found them

> to

> > offer no noticeable benefit, though microcurrent sometimes can be

> very

> > effective with the same conditions. Since the electrets cannot

> apply

> > varying electrical currents, it would appear that the frequency

and

> > waveform of the applied electrical field may well be very

important

> > to the efficacy of electrotherapy, as is indicated by the

> literature. Mel Siff]

> >

> > Thanks very much.

> >

> > Ben Green

> > Madison, WI

> > green@g...

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Hi Dan!

I tried to post a reply to you yesterday, but not sure if it got sent

correctly (admittedly a novice on posting...) In any case, thanks very

much for your suggestion! In fact, I saw my sports med doc this

morning, shared your info, and he arranged sessions of the treatment

you describe at the OT clinic. Had my first one a half hour later -

nobody was familiar with using the equipment for tennis elbow, so a

learning experience for everyone. I could hardly notice any sensation

during the treatment, which was a bit surprising to the aide

administering it. Scheduled for 2 more this week, and then will

evaluate, as you recommend. May I ask (please feel free to disregard

if this is inconvenient) if there might be any further information

about this you could share or direct me to, e.g. references, articles

or websites? (my physician as well as the sports med/OT dept's are

very interested as well). Again, many thanks! Sincerely, Ben Green,

Madison, WI green@...

> > I am new to the group -a 45-yr-old clinical psychologist - with a

> > request for information on effective treatment for " tennis elbow "

-

> in

> > my case over one year in duration, caused by several days of

> > ice-chipping on my roof (I live in Madison, WI). To this point,

I've

> > had a cortisone shot, multiple sessions of iontophoresis, a lot of

> > physical therapy and chiropractic treatment - including several

> > unsuccessful sessions of " ART " (Active Release Techniques), and

> several

> > prolotherapy injections.

> >

> > I was keenly interested to read Dr. Siff's comments about

> > microcurrent/ " electrets " and he invited my asking the group for

> > info/feedback as well re: effective treatment/rehab/tendon

> > strengthening. I have regained a good deal of my functional

strength

> > so far, though the pain over the tendon insertion(lateral

> > epicondyle) remains and the elbow quickly aches after being in the

> bent

> > position (e.g. writing notes, sleeping, etc.) My sports medicine

> > physician is not encouraging surgery, which I'm happy to avoid so

> long

> > as I can find something else that might help. I would greatly

> > appreciate any info/advice anyone might have!

> >

> > [some quick feedback on those tiny adhesive electret " band-aids "

> which I

> > discussed some months ago. I have used them quite extensively for

a

> wide

> > variety of musculoskeletal problems, but generally have found them

> to

> > offer no noticeable benefit, though microcurrent sometimes can be

> very

> > effective with the same conditions. Since the electrets cannot

> apply

> > varying electrical currents, it would appear that the frequency

and

> > waveform of the applied electrical field may well be very

important

> > to the efficacy of electrotherapy, as is indicated by the

> literature. Mel Siff]

> >

> > Thanks very much.

> >

> > Ben Green

> > Madison, WI

> > green@g...

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Hi Ben!

Sounds like you are receiving microcurrent therapy which may be of

beneift. There is a recent study by some of Mel's South African

countrymen in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise 34(4):602-607

which indicates the type of treatment Mel was describing as effective

in reducing muscle damage post exercise. However I use high-voltage

current up to 500 volts in combination with pulsed ultrasonics (

between .7 and 1 watts per square cm.)at 2 MHz. So you should have

some involuntary muscle twitch which should be below pain threshold.

The combingation of the two agents have a synergistic effect that I

have not been able to produce using one or the other separately.

A couple of good resources in this area are Clinical Electrotherapy by

& Currier which is published by Appleton & Lange and Thermal

Agents in Rehabilitation by Michlovitz which is published by FA .

Both are 2nd editions.

Good luck and keep us informed on your progress!

Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University

In Supertraining@y..., " guraria " <green@g...> wrote:

> Hi Dan!

> I tried to post a reply to you yesterday, but not sure if it got

sent

> correctly (admittedly a novice on posting...) In any case, thanks

very

> much for your suggestion! In fact, I saw my sports med doc this

> morning, shared your info, and he arranged sessions of the treatment

> you describe at the OT clinic. Had my first one a half hour later -

> nobody was familiar with using the equipment for tennis elbow, so a

> learning experience for everyone. I could hardly notice any

sensation

> during the treatment, which was a bit surprising to the aide

> administering it. Scheduled for 2 more this week, and then will

> evaluate, as you recommend. May I ask (please feel free to disregard

> if this is inconvenient) if there might be any further information

> about this you could share or direct me to, e.g. references,

articles

> or websites? (my physician as well as the sports med/OT dept's are

> very interested as well). Again, many thanks! Sincerely, Ben Green,

> Madison, WI green@g...

>

>

> > > I am new to the group -a 45-yr-old clinical psychologist - with

a

> > > request for information on effective treatment for " tennis

elbow "

> -

> > in

> > > my case over one year in duration, caused by several days of

> > > ice-chipping on my roof (I live in Madison, WI). To this point,

> I've

> > > had a cortisone shot, multiple sessions of iontophoresis, a lot

of

> > > physical therapy and chiropractic treatment - including several

> > > unsuccessful sessions of " ART " (Active Release Techniques), and

> > several

> > > prolotherapy injections.

> > >

> > > I was keenly interested to read Dr. Siff's comments about

> > > microcurrent/ " electrets " and he invited my asking the group for

> > > info/feedback as well re: effective treatment/rehab/tendon

> > > strengthening. I have regained a good deal of my functional

> strength

> > > so far, though the pain over the tendon insertion(lateral

> > > epicondyle) remains and the elbow quickly aches after being in

the

> > bent

> > > position (e.g. writing notes, sleeping, etc.) My sports medicine

> > > physician is not encouraging surgery, which I'm happy to avoid

so

> > long

> > > as I can find something else that might help. I would greatly

> > > appreciate any info/advice anyone might have!

> > >

> > > [some quick feedback on those tiny adhesive electret " band-aids "

> > which I

> > > discussed some months ago. I have used them quite extensively

for

> a

> > wide

> > > variety of musculoskeletal problems, but generally have found

them

> > to

> > > offer no noticeable benefit, though microcurrent sometimes can

be

> > very

> > > effective with the same conditions. Since the electrets cannot

> > apply

> > > varying electrical currents, it would appear that the frequency

> and

> > > waveform of the applied electrical field may well be very

> important

> > > to the efficacy of electrotherapy, as is indicated by the

> > literature. Mel Siff]

> > >

> > > Thanks very much.

> > >

> > > Ben Green

> > > Madison, WI

> > > green@g...

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Hi Ben!

Sounds like your now using a machine very similar to mine ( Dynatron )

which has multiple EMS and ultrasonic capability. We generally do

daily treatments but every other day may work as well. I would have

them turn up the volume of stimulation to where you have very slight

discomfort. This will vary with patients but I have some that go up

over 100 during the latter stages of treatment. Generally we find the

more voltage you can take without discomfort indicates the

condition is resolving. We have had very good success with this

treatment even in patients that have had severe symptoms for years.

Best wishes!

Dan Wathen, Youngstown(OH) State University

In Supertraining@y..., " guraria " <green@g...> wrote:

> Thanks so much for the info! Had my 2nd session today; a different,

> much smaller, sleeker & apparently more high-tech machine was used,

a

> new one which they're " testing out. " (Both employ combined

ultrasound

> and DC volt " electro-stimulation " ). Whereas yesterday my arm rested

> on a damp towel for " grounding, " today 4 wired patches were affixed

> to my arm surrounding the elbow, and the settings were " programmed "

> in using a touch-sensitive keypad display (like a microwave). Some

of

> the buttons plainly mystified the staff - such as two labeled " US "

> and " Russian. "

>

> Today's experience in terms of sensation was

> considerably different as well - the aide set the " intensity " up to

> 16, whatever that equates to (unfortunately, she seemed pretty

> unfamiliar with the device and couldn't explain what this means in

> terms of voltage; said this was the highest that had been tolerated

> by other patients - though for other problems than " tennis elbow " ,

> and I figured perhaps I shouldn't exceed that until I learned more

> about it.) Definitely a tingling sensation, though not at all

painful.

>

> However, I did notice some achiness today - which is

> receding, whereas I hadn't yesterday - in fact I felt notably free

of

> discomfort all day after yesterday's treatment, and was starting to

> feel quite encouraged, hoping against hope it wasn't just wishful

> thinking/placebo effect - though hard to imagine how it could have

> been considering my by-now rather guarded mindset after so many

> different kinds of treatment. Had been thinking of asking for asking

> for a lower " level " tomorrow.

>

> I had assumed from your original reply that you recommend

consecutive

> daily treatments, or does this matter? I am eager to share your

very helpful

> info with the OT dept (they certainly need guidance!) and to look

into the

> references you provided. Thanks again!!

>

> Ben Green

> Madison, WI

>

> ------

>

> Hi Ben!

> >

> > Sounds like you are receiving microcurrent therapy which may be of

> > beneift. There is a recent study by some of Mel's South African

> > countrymen in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise

34(4):602-607

> > which indicates the type of treatment Mel was describing as

> effective

> > in reducing muscle damage post exercise. However I use high-

> voltage

> > current up to 500 volts in combination with pulsed ultrasonics (

> > between .7 and 1 watts per square cm.)at 2 MHz. So you should

have

> > some involuntary muscle twitch which should be below pain

> threshold.

> > The combingation of the two agents have a synergistic effect that

I

> > have not been able to produce using one or the other separately.

> >

> > A couple of good resources in this area are Clinical

Electrotherapy

> by

> > & Currier which is published by Appleton & Lange and

Thermal

> > Agents in Rehabilitation by Michlovitz which is published by FA

> .

> > Both are 2nd editions.

> >

> > Good luck and keep us informed on your progress!

> >

> > Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University

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At 01:57 AM 5/9/02 +0000, you wrote:

>Some of the buttons plainly mystified the staff - such as two labeled " US "

>and " Russian. "

I gotta tell you, this, uh, treatment, sounds absolutely awful to me. At

the very least a therapist should " appear " confident even though they

clearly have no idea what's wrong, what they are doing to the patient or

what they might expect in response, all of which seem to be the case here.

I know, because I've been in this position myself and only my acting

ability made it tolerable to the patient. Your patience with this staff is

beyond me, but it seems you're grasping at straws here and I can see how

that might make it so.

Surely there's a PT in Madison with a clue.

Barrett L. Dorko, P.T.

Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio

<http://barrettdorko.com>

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Hello, Dan:

With the assistance of the veteran " head " OT yesterday, I actually

received your protocol for the 1st time: turns out that the newness of

the machine (Forte 200 Combo) was confusing for some of the " greener "

staff to program correctly. THIS time I experienced the intended

result of actual muscle contraction. As I initially understood you to

say that the range is " up to 500, " yesterday's treatment was set up to

290 and left there for the duration, an new sensation though not

painful (watching the muscles twitch and my fingers sway to music of

their own...) Today we kept it at 235. According to your latest post,

you have patients " go up over 100 in the latter stages of treatment " -

so am I starting out too high with this? My arm feels pretty much the

same so far. Again, many thanks for your info, suggestions, and

encouragement!

Ben Green

....City?

*Please sign all letters with full name and city of residence if your wish

your letters to be published *

---------

Dan Wathen wrote:

> Hi Ben!

>

> Sounds like your now using a machine very similar to mine ( Dynatron

)

> which has multiple EMS and ultrasonic capability. We generally do

> daily treatments but every other day may work as well. I would have

> them turn up the volume of stimulation to where you have very slight

> discomfort. This will vary with patients but I have some that go up

> over 100 during the latter stages of treatment. Generally we find

the

> more voltage you can take without discomfort indicates the

> condition is resolving. We have had very good success with this

> treatment even in patients that have had severe symptoms for years.

>

> Best wishes!

>

> Dan Wathen, Youngstown(OH) State University

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> In Supertraining@y..., " guraria " <green@g...> wrote:

> > Thanks so much for the info! Had my 2nd session today; a

different,

> > much smaller, sleeker & apparently more high-tech machine was

used,

> a

> > new one which they're " testing out. " (Both employ combined

> ultrasound

> > and DC volt " electro-stimulation " ). Whereas yesterday my arm

rested

> > on a damp towel for " grounding, " today 4 wired patches were

affixed

> > to my arm surrounding the elbow, and the settings were

" programmed "

> > in using a touch-sensitive keypad display (like a microwave). Some

> of

> > the buttons plainly mystified the staff - such as two labeled " US "

> > and " Russian. "

> >

> > Today's experience in terms of sensation was

> > considerably different as well - the aide set the " intensity " up

to

> > 16, whatever that equates to (unfortunately, she seemed pretty

> > unfamiliar with the device and couldn't explain what this means in

> > terms of voltage; said this was the highest that had been

tolerated

> > by other patients - though for other problems than " tennis elbow " ,

> > and I figured perhaps I shouldn't exceed that until I learned more

> > about it.) Definitely a tingling sensation, though not at all

> painful.

> >

> > However, I did notice some achiness today - which is

> > receding, whereas I hadn't yesterday - in fact I felt notably free

> of

> > discomfort all day after yesterday's treatment, and was starting

to

> > feel quite encouraged, hoping against hope it wasn't just wishful

> > thinking/placebo effect - though hard to imagine how it could have

> > been considering my by-now rather guarded mindset after so many

> > different kinds of treatment. Had been thinking of asking for

asking

> > for a lower " level " tomorrow.

> >

> > I had assumed from your original reply that you recommend

> consecutive

> > daily treatments, or does this matter? I am eager to share your

> very helpful

> > info with the OT dept (they certainly need guidance!) and to look

> into the

> > references you provided. Thanks again!!

> >

> > Ben Green

> > Madison, WI

> >

> > ------

> >

> > Hi Ben!

> > >

> > > Sounds like you are receiving microcurrent therapy which may be

of

> > > beneift. There is a recent study by some of Mel's South African

> > > countrymen in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise

> 34(4):602-607

> > > which indicates the type of treatment Mel was describing as

> > effective

> > > in reducing muscle damage post exercise. However I use high-

> > voltage

> > > current up to 500 volts in combination with pulsed ultrasonics (

> > > between .7 and 1 watts per square cm.)at 2 MHz. So you should

> have

> > > some involuntary muscle twitch which should be below pain

> > threshold.

> > > The combingation of the two agents have a synergistic effect

that

> I

> > > have not been able to produce using one or the other separately.

> > >

> > > A couple of good resources in this area are Clinical

> Electrotherapy

> > by

> > > & Currier which is published by Appleton & Lange and

> Thermal

> > > Agents in Rehabilitation by Michlovitz which is published by FA

> > .

> > > Both are 2nd editions.

> > >

> > > Good luck and keep us informed on your progress!

> > >

> > > Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University

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Hi Ben!

As long as the stimulation is not painful you can generally raise the

voltage until the point of mild discomfort. The settings on the two

machines are somewhat different numerically. Give it a few more

treatments. If you do not have marked relief after a few

more treatments discontinue the treatments. There is not any

treatment that works 100% of time for all patients. However, we have

had good success with this one. We also do stretching exercises for

the wrist extensors and cross frictional massage in conjunction with

the aforementioned sound/stim combo.

Good luck!

Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University

In Supertraining@y..., " guraria " <green@g...> wrote:

> Hello, Dan:

>

> With the assistance of the veteran " head " OT yesterday, I actually

> received your protocol for the 1st time: turns out that the newness

of

> the machine (Forte 200 Combo) was confusing for some of the

" greener "

> staff to program correctly. THIS time I experienced the intended

> result of actual muscle contraction. As I initially understood you

to

> say that the range is " up to 500, " yesterday's treatment was set up

to

> 290 and left there for the duration, an new sensation though not

> painful (watching the muscles twitch and my fingers sway to music of

> their own...) Today we kept it at 235. According to your latest

post,

> you have patients " go up over 100 in the latter stages of treatment "

-

> so am I starting out too high with this? My arm feels pretty much

the

> same so far. Again, many thanks for your info, suggestions, and

> encouragement!

>

> Ben Green

> ...City?

>

> *Please sign all letters with full name and city of residence if

your wish

> your letters to be published *

>

> ---------

>

> Dan Wathen wrote:

>

> > Hi Ben!

> >

> > Sounds like your now using a machine very similar to mine (

Dynatron

> )

> > which has multiple EMS and ultrasonic capability. We generally do

> > daily treatments but every other day may work as well. I would

have

> > them turn up the volume of stimulation to where you have very

slight

> > discomfort. This will vary with patients but I have some that go

up

> > over 100 during the latter stages of treatment. Generally we find

> the

> > more voltage you can take without discomfort indicates the

> > condition is resolving. We have had very good success with this

> > treatment even in patients that have had severe symptoms for

years.

> >

> > Best wishes!

> >

> > Dan Wathen, Youngstown(OH) State University

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In Supertraining@y..., " guraria " <green@g...> wrote:

> > > Thanks so much for the info! Had my 2nd session today; a

> different,

> > > much smaller, sleeker & apparently more high-tech machine was

> used,

> > a

> > > new one which they're " testing out. " (Both employ combined

> > ultrasound

> > > and DC volt " electro-stimulation " ). Whereas yesterday my arm

> rested

> > > on a damp towel for " grounding, " today 4 wired patches were

> affixed

> > > to my arm surrounding the elbow, and the settings were

> " programmed "

> > > in using a touch-sensitive keypad display (like a microwave).

Some

> > of

> > > the buttons plainly mystified the staff - such as two labeled

" US "

>

> > > and " Russian. "

> > >

> > > Today's experience in terms of sensation was

> > > considerably different as well - the aide set the " intensity "

up

> to

> > > 16, whatever that equates to (unfortunately, she seemed pretty

> > > unfamiliar with the device and couldn't explain what this means

in

> > > terms of voltage; said this was the highest that had been

> tolerated

> > > by other patients - though for other problems than " tennis

elbow " ,

> > > and I figured perhaps I shouldn't exceed that until I learned

more

> > > about it.) Definitely a tingling sensation, though not at all

> > painful.

> > >

> > > However, I did notice some achiness today - which is

> > > receding, whereas I hadn't yesterday - in fact I felt notably

free

> > of

> > > discomfort all day after yesterday's treatment, and was starting

> to

> > > feel quite encouraged, hoping against hope it wasn't just

wishful

> > > thinking/placebo effect - though hard to imagine how it could

have

> > > been considering my by-now rather guarded mindset after so many

> > > different kinds of treatment. Had been thinking of asking for

> asking

> > > for a lower " level " tomorrow.

> > >

> > > I had assumed from your original reply that you recommend

> > consecutive

> > > daily treatments, or does this matter? I am eager to share your

> > very helpful

> > > info with the OT dept (they certainly need guidance!) and to

look

> > into the

> > > references you provided. Thanks again!!

> > >

> > > Ben Green

> > > Madison, WI

> > >

> > > ------

> > >

> > > Hi Ben!

> > > >

> > > > Sounds like you are receiving microcurrent therapy which may

be

> of

> > > > beneift. There is a recent study by some of Mel's South

African

> > > > countrymen in Medicine & Science in Sports & Exercise

> > 34(4):602-607

> > > > which indicates the type of treatment Mel was describing as

> > > effective

> > > > in reducing muscle damage post exercise. However I use high-

> > > voltage

> > > > current up to 500 volts in combination with pulsed ultrasonics

(

> > > > between .7 and 1 watts per square cm.)at 2 MHz. So you should

> > have

> > > > some involuntary muscle twitch which should be below pain

> > > threshold.

> > > > The combingation of the two agents have a synergistic effect

> that

> > I

> > > > have not been able to produce using one or the other

separately.

> > > >

> > > > A couple of good resources in this area are Clinical

> > Electrotherapy

> > > by

> > > > & Currier which is published by Appleton & Lange and

> > Thermal

> > > > Agents in Rehabilitation by Michlovitz which is published by

FA

> > > .

> > > > Both are 2nd editions.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck and keep us informed on your progress!

> > > >

> > > > Dan Wathen, Youngstown (OH) State University

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Oh no, ! Hope it feels better.

Sorry I'm not more helpful....

Donna

--- Sprague <kittyn@...> wrote:

> When doing my exercises the other day I had mild

> pain in the left elbow. > Anyone had this happen

> before or have suggestions?

>

>

>

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Sprague wrote:

> When doing my exercises the other day I had mild pain in the left elbow.

> It hurts a wee it all the time now, not enough to stop doing things but

> I was wondering if maybe I had hurt myself somehow. The pain is on the

> inside of the elbow just above the elbow (if that makes sense) Anyone

> had this happen before or have suggestions?

hi wendy - i have no idea if this is the same thing or not, but quite

a while ago i hurt my elbow joint during triceps kickbacks with too

heavy of a weight. just the right elbow hurt for a long time after

that, not the left. (and interestingly, it is the right side of my

neck/shoulder/traps that hurts these days. hmmmm.) anyway, i just

wanted to ask if you may have gone too heavy on the bicep curls or

triceps exercises and could that be what is causing your pain?

i had to cut way back on weights for triceps for some time and also

had to be careful with biceps work on the right side... sometimes

lifting the weight while assisting with my left hand, or doing

preacher curls on stability ball or just sticking with concentration

curls (where the elbow is supported by the leg).

:*carolyn.

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I think I may have done something to it when playing with the kids - we were

doing bridge (I was teaching and showing first and a child sat on me (not

the 2 year old she does that all the time I'm used to that) and I don't

think I was ready for it. I was also showing how she could practice standing

on the head without getting her feet off the ground (not something I can do,

but she needs to practice headstands for gym and is having problems getting

up - anyone have suggestions for this?) Anyway it was right after this play

session that I started feeling the mild pain. I hope it goes away soon - not

that I can lift right now anyway I seem to have a flu- my muscles are so

weak I can barely lift myself. Lol

hi wendy - i have no idea if this is the same thing or not, but quite

a while ago i hurt my elbow joint during triceps kickbacks with too

heavy of a weight. just the right elbow hurt for a long time after

that, not the left. (and interestingly, it is the right side of my

neck/shoulder/traps that hurts these days. hmmmm.) anyway, i just

wanted to ask if you may have gone too heavy on the bicep curls or

triceps exercises and could that be what is causing your pain?

i had to cut way back on weights for triceps for some time and also

had to be careful with biceps work on the right side... sometimes

lifting the weight while assisting with my left hand, or doing

preacher curls on stability ball or just sticking with concentration

curls (where the elbow is supported by the leg).

:*carolyn.

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  • 4 years later...

I am experiencing a good deal of elbo pain (olecranon) - particularly sharp

point tenderness on both elbos. I cannot roll over in bed nor support myself in

any way when they are " acting out " . Swelling is very minimal and gentle

massaging of the area helps. I am wondering if this can be PA Induced olecranon

bursitis or some form of olecranon ligament capsul condition associated with PA.

If anyone else has this sort of pain, I'd be most happy to hear from you.

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