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What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among other

things, symptoms of ADHD.

Thanks,

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Karczmar <ckarczmar@...> wrote:

>

>

> 1) Buhner, an herbal expert (who advocates using them in

> conjunction

> with antibiotics) has an herbal protocol for healing Lyme, including

> several

> that help with depression. I believe they have been helpful with mine; have

> not yet tried them with 12 year old son. See his book: Healing Lyme and/or

> website called: Planet Thrive.

>

> 2) I wouldn't trust your dr's conclusion that depression is due to

> " puberty " . It's possible, of course, but sounds like a classic

> Lyme-ignorant assessment.

>

> 3) Brainsfield, I believe, advises that ADHD/Lyme kids be treated for

> Depression and ADHD symptoms separately from the Lyme. I don't know if

> there is consensus on that.

>

>

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We have treated our daughter for depression and ADHD separately from the Lyme.

We see a Lyme doc in Va who supported the treatment. My daughter also sees a

psychiatrist who originally prescribed the meds. In my humble opinion this has

been a good decision for our daughter. Her body is going through so much and

these meds help her get through the day when she feels crippled from other Lyme

symptoms.

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On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Farhangi <lesliefarhangi@...> wrote:

What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among other

things, symptoms of ADHD.

Thanks,

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Karczmar <ckarczmar@...> wrote:

1) Buhner, an herbal expert (who advocates using them in

conjunction

with antibiotics) has an herbal protocol for healing Lyme, including

several

that help with depression. I believe they have been helpful with mine; have

not yet tried them with 12 year old son. See his book: Healing Lyme and/or

website called: Planet Thrive.

2) I wouldn't trust your dr's conclusion that depression is due to

" puberty " . It's possible, of course, but sounds like a classic

Lyme-ignorant assessment.

3) Brainsfield, I believe, advises that ADHD/Lyme kids be treated for

Depression and ADHD symptoms separately from the Lyme. I don't know if

there is consensus on that.

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thanks so much - this also has worked for my oldest daughter but they dont want

to treat a 12 year old........

bless you - Diane

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Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 6:06:36 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Buhner-Lyme Depression

 

We have treated our daughter for depression and ADHD separately from the Lyme.

We see a Lyme doc in Va who supported the treatment. My daughter also sees a

psychiatrist who originally prescribed the meds. In my humble opinion this has

been a good decision for our daughter. Her body is going through so much and

these meds help her get through the day when she feels crippled from other Lyme

symptoms.

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 1, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Farhangi <lesliefarhangi@...> wrote:

What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among other

things, symptoms of ADHD.

Thanks,

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Karczmar <ckarczmar@...> wrote:

1) Buhner, an herbal expert (who advocates using them in

conjunction

with antibiotics) has an herbal protocol for healing Lyme, including

several

that help with depression. I believe they have been helpful with mine; have

not yet tried them with 12 year old son. See his book: Healing Lyme and/or

website called: Planet Thrive.

2) I wouldn't trust your dr's conclusion that depression is due to

" puberty " . It's possible, of course, but sounds like a classic

Lyme-ignorant assessment.

3) Brainsfield, I believe, advises that ADHD/Lyme kids be treated for

Depression and ADHD symptoms separately from the Lyme. I don't know if

there is consensus on that.

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I think you were asking who Dr. Bransfield is.

**Dr. Bransfield is a lyme literate psychiatrist from NJ that has

an interest in lyme and other tick born illnesses that effect the brain.

I was on an email list with him a few years ago, and his knowledge and

understanding of these illnesses was vastly impressive. He has written a

great deal on the topic and is speaking in April in PA at the LDA of PA.

You can find his articles on line.

On 3/1/2011 9:23 PM, Farhangi wrote:

> What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among other

> things, symptoms of ADHD.

>

> Thanks,

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Thank you, this is what I was asking!

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Faces <faces@...> wrote:

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>

> ,

>

> I think you were asking who Dr. Bransfield is.

>

> **Dr. Bransfield is a lyme literate psychiatrist from NJ that has

> an interest in lyme and other tick born illnesses that effect the brain.

> I was on an email list with him a few years ago, and his knowledge and

> understanding of these illnesses was vastly impressive. He has written a

> great deal on the topic and is speaking in April in PA at the LDA of PA.

> You can find his articles on line.

>

>

>

> On 3/1/2011 9:23 PM, Farhangi wrote:

> > What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among

> other

> > things, symptoms of ADHD.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

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I am sorry but where can I find this on-line...........thanks

Diane

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From: Farhangi <lesliefarhangi@...>

Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 9:10:11 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Buhner-Lyme Depression

Thank you, this is what I was asking!

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Faces <faces@...> wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> I think you were asking who Dr. Bransfield is.

>

> **Dr. Bransfield is a lyme literate psychiatrist from NJ that has

> an interest in lyme and other tick born illnesses that effect the brain.

> I was on an email list with him a few years ago, and his knowledge and

> understanding of these illnesses was vastly impressive. He has written a

> great deal on the topic and is speaking in April in PA at the LDA of PA.

> You can find his articles on line.

>

>

>

> On 3/1/2011 9:23 PM, Farhangi wrote:

> > What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among

> other

> > things, symptoms of ADHD.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

>

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I googled. Dr. Bransfield lyme psychiatrist and many links came up. Here

is the link to the ILADS page on him

http://www.ilads.org/about_ILADS/officers_directors.html#page=page-1

<cid:part1.02010504.07090003@...> and here is one that has

a list of published articles he has written on lyme and the psychiatric

effects http://www.mentalhealthandillness.com/lymeArticles.htm

<cid:part2.09030408.08070701@...> There are many lyme

associations and sites that also have bios and articles of his.

He is very knowledgable and I have learned alot from him on the

psychiatric and cognitive issues related to these infections.

Good luck,

On 3/2/2011 10:59 AM, Diane Biel wrote:

>

> I am sorry but where can I find this on-line...........thanks

> Diane

>

> ________________________________

> From: Farhangi <lesliefarhangi@...

> <mailto:lesliefarhangi%40gmail.com>>

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 9:10:11 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Buhner-Lyme Depression

>

> Thank you, this is what I was asking!

>

>

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Faces <faces@...

> <mailto:faces%40rochester.rr.com>> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I think you were asking who Dr. Bransfield is.

> >

> > **Dr. Bransfield is a lyme literate psychiatrist from NJ that has

> > an interest in lyme and other tick born illnesses that effect the brain.

> > I was on an email list with him a few years ago, and his knowledge and

> > understanding of these illnesses was vastly impressive. He has written a

> > great deal on the topic and is speaking in April in PA at the LDA of PA.

> > You can find his articles on line.

> >

> >

> >

> > On 3/1/2011 9:23 PM, Farhangi wrote:

> > > What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among

> > other

> > > things, symptoms of ADHD.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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Thanks so much!!  I would really like to give something to my oldest daughters

psychiatrist as the last time we were there my daughter was in a como sleep

phase and this doctor told her it was just a mental thing - she should go out

and exercise for 20 minuets and tell herself she wasn't tired - then she would

be fine..........so frustrating........she told me she knows about CFS so its a

mental thing........makes me so mad that they treat us like this..............I

wish it was just a mental way of thinking.......I would weigh 115lbs and have an

awesome paying job and my kids would be in school every day and life would

GRAND........life would be good.

Diane :)

________________________________

From: Faces <faces@...>

Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 10:20:54 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Buhner-Lyme Depression

 

I googled. Dr. Bransfield lyme psychiatrist and many links came up. Here

is the link to the ILADS page on him

http://www.ilads.org/about_ILADS/officers_directors.html#page=page-1

<cid:part1.02010504.07090003@...> and here is one that has

a list of published articles he has written on lyme and the psychiatric

effects http://www.mentalhealthandillness.com/lymeArticles.htm

<cid:part2.09030408.08070701@...> There are many lyme

associations and sites that also have bios and articles of his.

He is very knowledgable and I have learned alot from him on the

psychiatric and cognitive issues related to these infections.

Good luck,

On 3/2/2011 10:59 AM, Diane Biel wrote:

>

> I am sorry but where can I find this on-line...........thanks

> Diane

>

> ________________________________

> From: Farhangi <lesliefarhangi@...

> <mailto:lesliefarhangi%40gmail.com>>

>

> <mailto: %40>

> Sent: Wed, March 2, 2011 9:10:11 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Buhner-Lyme Depression

>

> Thank you, this is what I was asking!

>

>

>

> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Faces <faces@...

> <mailto:faces%40rochester.rr.com>> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > ,

> >

> > I think you were asking who Dr. Bransfield is.

> >

> > **Dr. Bransfield is a lyme literate psychiatrist from NJ that has

> > an interest in lyme and other tick born illnesses that effect the brain.

> > I was on an email list with him a few years ago, and his knowledge and

> > understanding of these illnesses was vastly impressive. He has written a

> > great deal on the topic and is speaking in April in PA at the LDA of PA.

> > You can find his articles on line.

> >

> >

> >

> > On 3/1/2011 9:23 PM, Farhangi wrote:

> > > What is number 3, " Brainsfield " ? My son has long term lyme and among

> > other

> > > things, symptoms of ADHD.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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