Chocolate

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/25/2004 8:40:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

dwaldman@... writes:

> and adding vegetable glycerin as a sweetener which is ok for all O's.

>

Does it have an after taste or different taste like Stevia has?

[Guest guest]

According to everything I've read chocolate is a neutral. Dark

chocolate would be best, no milk component and little sugar. Maybe

if you plan to have it, it will be less of a psychological issue.

Carob is actually a beneficial. I've found unsweetened carob covered

almonds at Whole Foods Market. About 5 of those with a few dried

apricots is one of my best snacks. I read in Prevention magazine

that Dove dark chocolate has a higher level of antioxidants and is

used in most of the clinical studies on dark chocolate. So if you

must, go with Dove for the most healthy version.

> What's the deal with chocolate?? This is the one rough spot in my

diet (well

> that and decaf soy lattes) ! I eat those darn dark choc. chips

throughout

> the day ,,, and it gives me that little extra spark of energy in

between my

> very ER compliant meals. I think I'm overtaxing my pancreas and I

want to get

> away from this " addiction " --- any suggestions? thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> and adding vegetable glycerin as a sweetener which is ok for all O's.

<<Does it have an after taste or different taste like Stevia has?>>

Hey Max,

I haven't tried it in chocolate myself, just heard it was good. I have tried it

in other things and liked it - didn't think it had an aftertaste at all, but

then I don't know that my taste buds are

typical ;-)

Dianne in L.A.

O+ nonnie

[Guest guest]

What is vegetable glycerin?

RE: chocolate

> Have you tried sugar free chocolate? Maybe it's not the choc.

but the sugar

> that is making you crash.

<<Be careful going sugar free. A lot of the products used to

replace it are avoids.>>

Many people have had success creating their own non-avoid chocolate by melting

unsweetened chocolate and adding vegetable glycerin as a sweetener which is ok

for all O's.

Good luck!

Dianne in L.A.

fellow chocoholic and O nonnie

[Guest guest]

Do not know if this has all the ingredients you need but,

Beyond-a-century.com has a Chocomine powder that is unsweetened & has the

theobromine & caffeine extract from chocolate to help with energy. I use it

sometimes when I really need to get something done.

[Guest guest]

That's true but I'll pass on what Dr R told us in our clinic. When

asked about what to eat after surgery...etc... He said " I want you to go out

there and ENJOY your life - you are not limited to anything except the

tea/coffee/soda. " This is paraphrased since it was over a year ago when he

told us this, but I've never forgotten it. After living 45 years worrying

about every morsal I put in my mouth, every Hershey's kiss, every bite of

fried chicken.....it was so refreshing to know that if I wanted to eat

something, I could and not feel guilty about it. The MGB is a tool, I can

eat whatever I want, just not a lot of it. The MGB has put me on equal

footing with the " normal " world (if that's what you want to call it). If I

want three Hershey's kisses with almonds, I'm going to eat them. And I

don't/won't feel guilty about it. I no longer eat the entire bag now that I

have the MGB which is what I would have done prior to surgery. One or two

is fine now and I don't feel deprived or guilty for having it.

I know some people can't tolerate the sweet/fat content and I certainly

don't advocate them eating it if they can't tolerate it, but I won't tell

someone they can't have it or shouldn't have it. I'm never going to " diet "

again - I simply watch my carb intake, exercise and revel in the 120 weight

loss I've experienced in 14 months.

Best of luck to everyone with their MGB (raising my hershey kiss in a toast

to us all)

Kellie in OKC

12-19-03 Dr R

304/185/goal: happy and healthy

>From: " lessytechy " <lessytechy@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: Postum & Pick-Me-Ups - to in Atlanta

>Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:04:17 -0000

>

>

>

>I knew not to eat a lot of chocolate BEFORE surgery; I assume it is

>not any healthier for us AFTER surgery. It is high in both sugar

>and fat.

>

> in Atlanta

>

>

> > > >

> > > > How does postum compare to coffee or tea as far as the uplift of

> > >caffeine? That is the main reason I want to drink it. Orange

>juice

> > >and hot chocolate just aren't at all the same. Anybody have other

> > >suggestions? I bought a coffee substitute at the health food store

> > >and it was worthless even though it was 'guaranteed.' I need a

>lift

> > >to get me started in the mornings.

> > > > Thanks.

> > > > Charlene Agee

> > > > Dr. Rutledge Statesville

> > > > 10-20-03

> > > > 288.5/203.5 5'9 "

> > > > >

> > > > > From: " bbnsc " <bethball01@c...>

> > > > > Date: 2005/03/02 Wed AM 03:01:12 GMT

> > > > > < >

> > > > > Subject: Re: Coffee Tamer

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I don't disagree with what you are saying, but you've lost sight of

the original point, which was CAFFEINE. All I said in the first

place is that there are no food/drink options to us to provide the

caffeine jolt the original poster was looking for. Sure, you can have

a couple of kisses. I, too have a small amount of chocolate

OCCASSIONALLY. But I don't/won't/can't eat enough of it to make up

the amount of caffeine that my three mugs of coffee used to provide.

in Atlanta

> > > > >

> > > > > How does postum compare to coffee or tea as far as the

uplift of

> > > >caffeine? That is the main reason I want to drink it. Orange

> >juice

> > > >and hot chocolate just aren't at all the same. Anybody have

other

> > > >suggestions? I bought a coffee substitute at the health food

store

> > > >and it was worthless even though it was 'guaranteed.' I need a

> >lift

> > > >to get me started in the mornings.

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > Charlene Agee

> > > > > Dr. Rutledge Statesville

> > > > > 10-20-03

> > > > > 288.5/203.5 5'9 "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: " bbnsc " <bethball01@c...>

> > > > > > Date: 2005/03/02 Wed AM 03:01:12 GMT

> > > > > > < >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Coffee Tamer

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Very well said Kellie. Dr. Rutledge does want us to enjoy our new life

as in the past we have counted calories, fat grams, carbs, etc. with no

luck in weight loss. Still the MGB is a tool and healthy choices should

be made as much as possible.

Monroe, Human Resources

CELOS- Corporate Office

704-682-0260 (cell)

704-871-0031 (office)

npm@...

www.clos.net

Re: Coffee Tamer

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> > > >

[Guest guest]

I think it depends on what your long-terms goals are. I've lost a lot of

weight, but I have a lot to lose, and so it bothers me that I am on a 2

month plateau. I want to be at an ideal weight for someone of height and

age. In the past, I'd lose some weight, and then gain it back (and gain

more than I'd lost!) I never got down to a completely NORMAL weight. And I

don't think I will now, unless I exercise and eat really carefully. I wish

the weight would come off while still eating what I wanted, but that's not

happening. So, I use my MGB as a tool to help me follow my diet. We'll see

if the plateau breaks!!

Joanie

5/25/04

Drs. Walsh and Rutledge

>From: " Kellie L " <smallby2004@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: RE: Re: chocolate

>Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 15:07:54 +0000

>

>

>That's true but I'll pass on what Dr R told us in our clinic. When

>asked about what to eat after surgery...etc... He said " I want you to go

>out

>there and ENJOY your life - you are not limited to anything except the

>tea/coffee/soda. " This is paraphrased since it was over a year ago when he

>told us this, but I've never forgotten it. After living 45 years worrying

>about every morsal I put in my mouth, every Hershey's kiss, every bite of

>fried chicken.....it was so refreshing to know that if I wanted to eat

>something, I could and not feel guilty about it. The MGB is a tool, I can

>eat whatever I want, just not a lot of it. The MGB has put me on equal

>footing with the " normal " world (if that's what you want to call it). If I

>want three Hershey's kisses with almonds, I'm going to eat them. And I

>don't/won't feel guilty about it. I no longer eat the entire bag now that

>I

>have the MGB which is what I would have done prior to surgery. One or two

>is fine now and I don't feel deprived or guilty for having it.

>

>I know some people can't tolerate the sweet/fat content and I certainly

>don't advocate them eating it if they can't tolerate it, but I won't tell

>someone they can't have it or shouldn't have it. I'm never going to " diet "

>again - I simply watch my carb intake, exercise and revel in the 120 weight

>loss I've experienced in 14 months.

>

>Best of luck to everyone with their MGB (raising my hershey kiss in a toast

>to us all)

>

>Kellie in OKC

>12-19-03 Dr R

>304/185/goal: happy and healthy

>

>

>

>

> >From: " lessytechy " <lessytechy@...>

> >Reply-

> >

> >Subject: Re: Postum & Pick-Me-Ups - to in Atlanta

> >Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:04:17 -0000

> >

> >

> >

> >I knew not to eat a lot of chocolate BEFORE surgery; I assume it is

> >not any healthier for us AFTER surgery. It is high in both sugar

> >and fat.

> >

> > in Atlanta

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > How does postum compare to coffee or tea as far as the uplift of

> > > >caffeine? That is the main reason I want to drink it. Orange

> >juice

> > > >and hot chocolate just aren't at all the same. Anybody have other

> > > >suggestions? I bought a coffee substitute at the health food store

> > > >and it was worthless even though it was 'guaranteed.' I need a

> >lift

> > > >to get me started in the mornings.

> > > > > Thanks.

> > > > > Charlene Agee

> > > > > Dr. Rutledge Statesville

> > > > > 10-20-03

> > > > > 288.5/203.5 5'9 "

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: " bbnsc " <bethball01@c...>

> > > > > > Date: 2005/03/02 Wed AM 03:01:12 GMT

> > > > > > < >

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Coffee Tamer

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Last I checked sugar was a neutral for O secretors. It's the non-

secretors who have to avoid it. Just make sure it's real sugar and

not corn syrup or artificial sweetner. And of course, MODERATION is

key!!

-Robin

> But not the sugar that comes with it!

>

>

> Re: Re: Introduction

>

>

> In a message dated 3/23/2005 10:53:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> mtnmusicmama@j... writes:

> Tracey, if you are a secretor, Chocolate is okay!

>

> Chocolate is neutral for all Os even us outcast nonnies.--LOL.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, chocolate is a no-no on the candida diet.

Bee

> I¹ve read most of the files but haven¹t committed them to memory, so

if this

> is addressed somewhere in a file, I apologize, but: is unsweetened

dark

> chocolate allowed on this diet or is there some other reason it¹s

> undesirable?

>

> Thanks,

>

> KW

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dark chocolate also increases the production of seratonin, which is the brain's

natural mood enhancer. So a piece of dark chocolate can pick you up when you're

feeling down. All good things in moderation though! We won't be happier with 20

pounds of chocolate wrapped around our bellies and thighs! But go ahead and

indulge, without feeling guilty!

Blessings,

szukidavis@... wrote:

Chocolate Relaxes Heart

Wednesday, January 18, 2006

By Miranda Hitti

Dark Chocolate May Cut High Blood Pressure

Antioxidants in cocoa might help your heart by keeping your blood vessels

relaxed, thus easing blood pressure and helping circulation.

---------------------------------

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Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays,

whatever.

[Guest guest]

, yes chocolate has been discussed here and

many of us find it is helpful. Before I was diagnosed

I reached the point I could not keep down food or

water. I lived on chocolate for a couple months.

I still find it helps at times. Peppermint falls in

that same category. I personally think chocolate

works best.

The only bad part of this is that once you've

had treatment and no longer need it, it is

awfully hard to stop and boy does it put on

the pounds.

Maggie

AlabamaSee what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

>

> is there any kind of chocolate allowed on the diet? there are anti

oxidents in it, right? it it's a no no ... i won't do it.

> but i'm sure a little would taste great with some coconut oil.

==>Chocolate is allowed on the diet. There are many good reasons, but

one that is important is that all chocolate is processed in such a way

that it contains fungi:

http://botit.botany.wisc.edu/toms_fungi/feb2006.html

Bee

[Guest guest]

Look for the SF caramel ones. They're soooo good and even fewer

calories...only 45!!

//snip//The little Jello SF pudding packs are wonderful. 60 cal each.//

[Guest guest]

My son has also had chocolate but it was oreos before bed and had spasms on 2

occasions.We also wondered if there could be a connection or just coincidence.

Tonia

>

> HELLO TO ALL,

> I had a Heller Myotomy in 2005 at Mt. Sinai in New York. Doing well except for

sometimes getting food stuck about two times a month when under STRESS! One

day before going to bed, I ate two bags of MM dark chocolate and had 15 minutes

of pain ( chest spams ) and pain in the back. ( like cardiac spams ? ) HAS

ANYONE had a problem eatting chocolate late at night before going to bed ??????

One may think it is your heart OR Esophagus!!!!! THANKS Richie

>

[Guest guest]

Towards the end, before my ectomy - I basically couldn't have any chocolate - I

was almost guaranteed to get spasms. Same went for coffee, mint and then even

popcorn and butter.

I know that chocolate opens up the LES and in theory should 'relax' it but for

me it was just the opposite.

go figure...

- in NC

> >

> > HELLO TO ALL,

> > I had a Heller Myotomy in 2005 at Mt. Sinai in New York. Doing well except

for sometimes getting food stuck about two times a month when under STRESS!

One day before going to bed, I ate two bags of MM dark chocolate and had 15

minutes of pain ( chest spams ) and pain in the back. ( like cardiac spams ? )

HAS ANYONE had a problem eatting chocolate late at night before going to bed

?????? One may think it is your heart OR Esophagus!!!!! THANKS Richie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr rice told us chocolate could cause spasms. Alcohol and coffee could also

cause spasms...angela

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: CHOCOLATE

Towards the end, before my ectomy - I basically couldn't have any chocolate - I

was almost guaranteed to get spasms. Same went for coffee, mint and then even

popcorn and butter.

I know that chocolate opens up the LES and in theory should 'relax' it but for

me it was just the opposite.

go figure...

- in NC

> >

> > HELLO TO ALL,

> > I had a Heller Myotomy in 2005 at Mt. Sinai in New York. Doing well except

for sometimes getting food stuck about two times a month when under STRESS!

One day before going to bed, I ate two bags of MM dark chocolate and had 15

minutes of pain ( chest spams ) and pain in the back. ( like cardiac spams ? )

HAS ANYONE had a problem eatting chocolate late at night before going to bed

?????? One may think it is your heart OR Esophagus!!!!! THANKS Richie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee and All

>

> I have been wondering about chocolate. I was going to search past messages,

but of course can't because the search feature is buggy.

> I understand that dark chocolate has a lot of saturated fat, and it may be of

the healthy variety. The biggest problem with chocolate, for us, is of course

sugar and caffeine.

> But if I ate unsweetened (baking) dark chocolate, with no sugar, would it be

good for me? Aside from the little amount of caffeine it may contain?

+++Hi Roy. No, do not have any chocolate because it contains too much natural

sugar and when it is made it creates a lot of fungus. Even if you got dark

chocolate it would contain other ingredients like soy lecithin.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hello Bee,

So are you saying even organic cacao powder is not allowed because it can

contain fungus? I have occasionally put 1 tsp in my egg drink when I need a

different flavor to break it up.

Johanna

[Guest guest]

Hi Johanna,

Cacao powder isn't part of Bee's program, so if you have it, it's a cheat.

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> So are you saying even organic cacao powder is not allowed because it can

contain fungus? I have occasionally put 1 tsp in my egg drink when I need a

different flavor to break it up.

>

> Johanna

>

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

I have had a great last 2 weeks. I was experiencing severe swollen feet and

ankles, then I read somewhere that soft drinks may cause this in some

people....so I stopped drinking my diet coke's.....COLD TURKEY.

Within 2-3 days my feet and ankle's were of normal size, I can now wear shoes

and sandals that I had not been able to wear in quite some time. The issue

today is that I am aching soooooo bad, I can harldy put one foot in front of the

other. The only change I have had in my diet was that yesterday evening I ate 2

scoops of Rocky Road ice cream......could chocolate maybe have brought this

on......has anyone else experienced this? I know I have heard from some people

that coffee has affected them, but that doesn't seem to have bothered me at all.

Was just curious.

Had lot's of digestive issues with methotrexate tablets, getting ready to switch

to injections, hoping that will help with the way I feel also.

Take care, God Bless.

[Guest guest]

I am not sure about coffee or chocolate, but soft drinks tend to be high in

sodium. If you compound that with any other health issues that may cause you to

retain fluid, that would explain the swelling. Different from PA swelling, this

would be fluid retention.

Stay well,

[Guest guest]

Easy. We have this often.

60 Second Chocolate Mousse

In the VitaMix put

1 egg

6 ounces of semi-sweet chocolate chips (we like milk chocolate)

1/2 teaspoon vanilla

Whir it up and with the machine drizzle in 1 cup hot heavy cream. Blend until

light and smooth

Pour into pots de creme cups or custard cups and refrigerate for several hours

until firm.

YUM

p.s. I often add a little sprinkle of granulated instant espresso. Nothing

enhances the flavor of chocolate like coffee.

Terry

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 17, 2011, at 11:09 PM, " " <juliegkravet@...> wrote:

> What's everyone's best Vitamix recipe using chocolate? I'm planning on being

REALLY bad within the next few days and I've decided its definitely going to

include chocolate.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Have fun!  :)On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:09 PM, <juliegkravet@...> wrote:

What's everyone's best Vitamix recipe using chocolate?  I'm planning on being REALLY bad within the next few days and I've decided its definitely going to include chocolate.

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