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Hi ,

I have an 8 year old daughter with OCD. I also have OCD that started when I

was about 4-5 years old. Speaking from personal experience, your daughter's

life will be so much better just because you've caught the OCD early &

she'll know that the OCD thoughts and behaviors, etc. are from an illness and

arent' her fault. I was one of the ones who goes 25 years without knowing

what OCD is, and I can tell you that your daughter is very fortunate to have

a mom who's on top of it. Your daughter will probably always have good &

bad days, meds or no; what helps my daughter (and would've helped me as a

child) get thru bad days is patience, understanding and reassurance that it's

not her fault, it's just part of OCD (for example, I was fine yesterday but

today I can't leave my house at all!)

If I can answer any questions or you just need a sympathetic ear, email me

anytime. Best wishes to you & your daughter!

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Hi , and welcome to the club. First let me say that noone is going to

laugh at you here, unless of course you say something funny (hehe I know I

am a dork). To be honest, I don't really have any advice for you, other

than talk to a geneticist to find out if you are a dwarf (which by the way I

think is defined as anyone 4'10 " and below) and if so what kind, because if

you are there is the very definite possiblity that some of your children may

be as well. How tall are you? I do know that there are over 150 kinds of

dwarfism, so there is really no telling. I hope things go well for you, and

make sure and let us know. Good luck!!

(average height mother of Jake, and 11 month old achondroplastic

dwarf)

P.S. I know I wasn't really any help to you, I just wanted to let you know

that it is okay to ask questions and that I care.

>From: dnlee717@...

>dwarfism

>Subject: Hi I'm new here

>Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 19:51:24 -0000

>

>Hello there! I'm very new at this and may even make you laugh I'm

>31yrs old have 4 children and just found out I am a some sort of LP.

>I was just wondering if there was a name for this other then dwarfism?

>I know that dwarfism is of short statue but I do not have short arms

>or legs and was never told I had this I was always told I was just

>petite. I was just wondering if anyone knew of a medical term used

>for this?

>I was also wondering if anyone with children deals with this? Out of

>4 kids I have one who is only 4-1 at 13yrs the others are all above

>average in height and I do have 12yr old who is almost 5ft. They do

>get teased alot at school about mom's height and my youngest son at 8

>has a very hard time dealing with the other kids making fun of his

>mom.

>Any help would be wonderful. Thanks in advance

>

>

>

>

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I have system candida, fibromyalgia, possibly arthritis, and new onset

Diabetes. Uck. I have not had insurance for most of my life. Didn't

qualify for assistance. One of those caught in between.

Well, I saw a Dr who is convinced of the above, but won't start treatment

without some kind of insurance. I figure it must not be life threatening -

yet! So the thing to do would be to start with some cleansing and ?? Any

suggestions?

NanSea;

Welcome to the group.

The first part of the cleansing process is really quite easy to do, and will

help for the rest of your life if continued. The first thing to do is to change

eating habits that promote the type of problems of which the doctor has pointed

out you have. Start working on a liver cleansing diet by eating food that

enhances your intake of essential fatty acids and other nutrients, and will also

work to help the intestines and colon too. Surprisingly enough this really isn't

that hard to do.

The first thing to do is to avoid such things as saturated animal fats and

hydrogenated oils. This is imperative to good liver health and in turn general

health of the rest of the body, including the small intestines and colon. Adding

to that the avoidance of refined sugar or , even more importantly, aspartame,

refined and bleached wheat flour, milk (not necessarily all milk products such

as naturally made cheese and yogurt), and in general all synthetic vitamins or

other chemicals as they tend to lack the holistic properties the body tends to

seek, you're going to be able to notice results in a very short length of time.

This is easy to do in one sense but really hard in others because of the

addictive nature of fats and chemicals. However, if you get to a point where

you've gone without fat foods or hydrogenated foods for some time it's really

going to smell bad when walking into a place like Mcs or BurgerKing with

the grease smell they have. When you get to that point eating a French fry is

like eating a wad of grease, as it now will be more of a poison of which your

body will prefer to reject, but to get to that point takes a bit of doing if the

addiction is strong enough. There is the " oh, well, just this once " factor with

which to contend.

Jumping into a bowel cleansing program can have some strong effects too and

should be considered in relation to the previous changes made. If you start

eating foods, i.e. dieting, which are high in soluble and insoluble fiber and

nutritious. Things will happen by just doing that, some good and some not so

good. The good is the body changing and the bad is its addiction to the previous

diet intake along with a potential healing crises making you feel pretty bad. It

can enhance the pain of arthritis as well as cause body discomfort, but if

adhered to as vehemently as possible the end result is one feeling better and

better, at least for most people.

Some more things to do are; eat your food, that is, chew it very well to let

your teeth do the job for which they are made to do. This will provide your body

more nutrition and soluble fiber to use. The soluble fiber will help the liver

have some place to put the wastes that its depositing in the bile salts.

insoluble fiber will help the soluble fiber to be moved along the intestinal

track and out of the body in a shorter length of time.

It is possible to do bowelcleansing by various modalities but not all are

conducive for all people. There are diets with supplements and direct, more

mechanical, means for doing this and do tend to help too. The use of enemas or

colonics can go a long way towards getting the colon cleared and help the liver

to get out toxins faster too.

So, you'll find here a lot of information of which will be directing to those

various things. I would also suggest checking out the curezone for a lot of good

links too as Agnes has put together a very good website for helping those with

various ills. You can access it by clicking this link, or copy and pasting it to

the URL window of your browser. http://curezone.com/cleanse/bowel/

Dale

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Hi NanSea, I have most of what you have and will not go to the doctor. I'm

totally convinced I can heal my self (with Gods help), and am also doing the

gallstone cleanses. You are not alone. And I'm pretty new here, too.

of Dewberry Hill

My name is NanSea (sounds like ).

I have system candida, fibromyalgia, possibly arthritis, and new onset

Diabetes. Uck. I have not had insurance for most of my life. Didn’t

qualify for assistance. One of those caught in between.

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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Hi ,

Welcome to our group. They are a great gang with a wealth of information. I

have a son with DS but has not been diagnosed. I have my share of problems

with school. Your daughter certainly has the right to have proper supports

and accomodations. The change of personnel is a major problem but there isn't

too much you can do about that. If the aides are trained and doing there job

properly your hands are tied. I would definately talk to the teacher and make

sure that you have everything written into the IEP. If the IEP isn't

benefitting her you need to have a meeting to change it. You need to be more

specific about her program and the problems. I hope you can have all your

questions answered to help Ariel.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb almost 10 DS/OCD ?

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,

Welcome to the list. There are some local resource listings

depending on where you live. If you give us the city/area, we can

direct you to the best resource(s). I am guessing you are in either

in Dallas area/North Texas/Houston because of the workshop listed.

All of those 3 areas have a network of parents that can help guide

you--and parent recommendations can help sort through some of the

less attractive choices. Let us know how we can help. We have all

been there are are willing to help you in any way we can.

Theresa Madore in San

> Hi. I am the mother of three year Abby who was diagnosed autistic

> December 8th, 2003. We've finally shaken off the shock of the

> diagnosis and are ready to get busy! We are still researching

> treatment options, but we are inclined to follow the

diagnostician's

> recc. of A.B.A. I am just now getting started contacting various

> providers and I am a little overwhelmed with how much there is to

> do: phone calls to professionals, online research, trying to start

> networking with area parents, etc. I wish there was an Autism

Yellow

> Pages. Is there such a resource guide? Also, I missed the " ABCs of

> ABA " conference on the 13th and I wondered if anything like that

was

> coming up in the near future.

> Anyway, I am happy to have found ya'll and look forward to getting

> to know ya'll and this site. Thanks for being here.

>

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Welcome to the list. There are some local resource listings

depending on where you live. If you give us the city/area, we can

direct you to the best resource(s). I am guessing you are in either

in Dallas area/North Texas/Houston because of the workshop listed.

All of those 3 areas have a network of parents that can help guide

you--and parent recommendations can help sort through some of the

less attractive choices. Let us know how we can help. We have all

been there are are willing to help you in any way we can.

Theresa Madore in San

> Hi. I am the mother of three year Abby who was diagnosed autistic

> December 8th, 2003. We've finally shaken off the shock of the

> diagnosis and are ready to get busy! We are still researching

> treatment options, but we are inclined to follow the

diagnostician's

> recc. of A.B.A. I am just now getting started contacting various

> providers and I am a little overwhelmed with how much there is to

> do: phone calls to professionals, online research, trying to start

> networking with area parents, etc. I wish there was an Autism

Yellow

> Pages. Is there such a resource guide? Also, I missed the " ABCs of

> ABA " conference on the 13th and I wondered if anything like that

was

> coming up in the near future.

> Anyway, I am happy to have found ya'll and look forward to getting

> to know ya'll and this site. Thanks for being here.

>

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Hi susan,

welcome to the group. YOu have come to the right place. this group is

a wealth of information. WHere do you live? lot of resources on

internet if you have easy access.

well I am kind of new myself, but members in this group are very

knowledgeable and wonderful. you will see.

thanks

Bharathi

> Hi. I am the mother of three year Abby who was diagnosed autistic

> December 8th, 2003. We've finally shaken off the shock of the

> diagnosis and are ready to get busy! We are still researching

> treatment options, but we are inclined to follow the

diagnostician's

> recc. of A.B.A. I am just now getting started contacting various

> providers and I am a little overwhelmed with how much there is to

> do: phone calls to professionals, online research, trying to start

> networking with area parents, etc. I wish there was an Autism

Yellow

> Pages. Is there such a resource guide? Also, I missed the " ABCs of

> ABA " conference on the 13th and I wondered if anything like that

was

> coming up in the near future.

> Anyway, I am happy to have found ya'll and look forward to getting

> to know ya'll and this site. Thanks for being here.

>

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Lorial,

Welcome to the group. The groups members have auto-immune liver disease. Not as knowledgeable about Hep C. I remember someone in this group suggested some groups that will help you with the Hep C.

What stage of PBC are you in? Sorry for all the questions but the more we know the more you will learn. When were you diagnosed with PBC? We also have members with fibromyalgia, I just posted something yesterday about it. Do you know how to read past posts from the web page? At the bottom of this email there is a link to take you there.

So just jump in and ask questions or share more about yourself.

Jo Lynne transplanted for PBC May 15th 1995 re-occurrence '97 and AIH crossover '05

We use another chat room than the one on the web page we use the PBCers Chat Room.

Every other thursday in the pbcers room on the pbcers site, is a new chat room just for people with both PBC and crossover AIH. If interested going here are the links needed. PBCers Unmoderated Chatroom possible.......Primary Biliary Cirrhosis Organization AKA PBCers The next chat will be a week from this thursday around 7:00 Eastern Standard Time ....to.... (length depends on all )

[ ] Hi I'm new here

Hi..so glad I found this group!

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Hi Lorial,

I have PBC-AIH overlap syndrome. The autoimmune hepatitis is in

remission and has stayed that way for over a year now! So I am only

treating for the PBC (stage 2/3). I also have fibromyalgia, among

other things.

There is a support group specifically for PBC:

PBC_Digest/

They also have a website with loads of information:

http://pbcers.org/

Sandy C.

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Welcome!

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Hi Everyone! I'm new to this group, it looks like a great place to

meet other soapers and learn and grow! I've been making soap for

about six years, my first bar was a little lab experiment in college

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Hi You sound busy This is a good group to be in I have just started my online

business I've been in business for almost a year My friend makes candles and I

decided since I was spending so much on bath products that I'd rather make my

own I could make them just the way I want them and all natural so there would be

no allergic reactions My friends love my gifts and my husband said I should try

online business So I am It's fun Good luck to you Sullivan

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sellingsoap <angela@...> wrote:Hi Everyone! I'm new to this group,

it looks like a great place to

meet other soapers and learn and grow! I've been making soap for

about six years, my first bar was a little lab experiment in college

and from then on I was hooked! I have a three year old son who's very

busy like his mom, lol. Work full time and have two small

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Hi Maia,

Welcome to the group and congratulations on breaking the 140

milestone! Here is a week of vegetarian meals that might give you some

ideas. Feel free to ignore my crazy ranting and go straight to the

menus. :-)

http://www.skwigg.com/id58.html

On 3/7/06, maiascura <maiascura@...> wrote:

> Hi, my name is Maia,

> I have just finished my third week of the program. My starting weight

> was 147lbs and 35% body fat. I was absolutely horrified of my before

> picture, but now it's on my fridge and it helps keep me on track. I

> have already noticed an amazing difference in my body and my energy. I

> feel like I've finally got the keys to success. This morning I got on

> the scale and it read 139.8. WOO-HOO! First time I've been below 140

> in a couple of years. I am shooting for a target of 125lbs and below

> 20% body fat by week twelve. Right now I'm feeling really optimistic.

> Oh, and By the way, I'm lacto-ovo vegetarian. Anybody with tips on

> veggie stuff to eat let me know. Anyway, I look forward to hearing all

> of your stories and being part of this group.

> Thanks, Maia

>

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HI and welcome! You will get tons of support and motivation here, believe me!! Lots of good, helpful info too. Congrats on your weight loss so far and good job on keeping it up. Having "programs" or challenges through work is an excellent way to motivate people.

Mine first started a health@work walking program to get us off our duffs (desk jobs all day - LOL) and moving, so we got log books, pedometers and access to the website to log our steps. The "goal" was to walk a million steps in a year.... didn't think it would be possible.... and when we log our steps it shows us going up a mountain.

Since June of last year, I have walked OVER 2 million (yes, 2,000,000) steps - climbed 8 mountains - and have lost weight and inches in addition!! That's really when my "diet and exercise" began.

In October, I joined Curves to give myself something else fun to do for exercise. :-D

I've lost 27 lbs and 42 inches so far.... a long way from my goal, which I keep waffling on what my "end goal" will be....

Again, welcome and look forward to getting to know you.

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Welcome Ms. . You didnt sign your name. So I just put ms smith from email. Keep it up. Exercise is key to any diet. Water is as well. AND PORTIONS. Do you journal? I find it great therapy.

NH... Mom to Abby Liz 10/94 Anne 7/99

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Hi I'm new here

I'm new here. My weight loss journey starts clear back as a kid. Welcome Lori.I'm currently working at loosing weight with a weight loss challenge through work. Good, I think it's always easier when you havesomeone doing it with you. I've had significant success a couple years ago when I lost 50 lbs. It took 6 months and I have see-sawed with about 10-15 lbs of that however have kept the majority of that weight off. Now I begin the next saga. I'm trying to loose weight down to a reasonable weight and using exercise and diet to do so. I just need some extra support to do that. That's what we are here for:) My most recent weigh in was 272 last Saturday.We are pretty close together. I started at 260. Will weigh in again at work tonight. I've lost around 2-2 1 /2 lbs per week since we started doing this 2 weeks ago at work. I had 110 pounds to lose when I started on Jan. 27th. I have been losing a hair over a pound a week. Hoping to keep at least the same weight loss per week although would love to boost that a little for a couple weeks. I have always hoped for 2 pounds a week but I seem to never get much over 1 pound a week. Even with lowing my calories. I think I need to boost my exercising.My exercise is usually 2-3 3 mile walks which takes around 1 hour each and then 2-3 strength based exercises at home which takes around 20-30 minutes to perform. Wow, sounds to me like you already have a plan thats working for you! I can tell that I feel better since exercising however I just need more help to continue on the way towards loosing weight and winning our challenge.I can't believe how much better i sleep and feel rested since I have been getting more exercise and losing weight. (We are going on % of weight lost not lbs since some only have 10-15 lbs to loose and others have a significant amount more to loose.) Look forward to seeing you make all your goals.

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Hi Lori - welcome :) you're doing great! keep up the good workLori <smithflats@...> wrote: I'm new here. My weight loss journey starts clear back as a kid. I'm currently working at loosing weight with a weight loss challenge through work. I've had significant success a couple years ago when I lost 50 lbs. It took 6 months and I have see-sawed with about 10-15 lbs of that however have kept the majority of that weight off. Now I begin the next saga. I'm trying to loose weight down to a reasonable weight and using exercise and diet to do so. I just need some extra support to do that. My most recent weigh in was 272 last Saturday. Will weigh in again at work tonight. I've lost around 2-2 1 /2 lbs per week since we started doing this 2 weeks ago at

work. Hoping to keep at least the same weight loss per week although would love to boost that a little for a couple weeks. My exercise is usually 2-3 3 mile walks which takes around 1 hour each and then 2-3 strength based exercises at home which takes around 20-30 minutes to perform. I can tell that I feel better since exercising however I just need more help to continue on the way towards loosing weight and winning our challenge. (We are going on % of weight lost not lbs since some only have 10-15 lbs to loose and others have a significant amount more to loose.) Live, Love, Laugh

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Hi Jade

Just wanted to say hello. I¹m also in England. North Norfolk but

originally from London. My little boy has been in brace/cast since 3

months (he¹s 20 months now). He spent his first two months in NICU because

he had breathing and feeding problems and a thing called PRS (cleft of the

soft palate and a small chin). When I got him home I noticed his back felt

Œfunny¹ but thought nothing of it (as he had spent so long in hospital I was

sure they would have said something!). I was wrong and the back surgeon at

Norfolk and Norwich hospital put him in a brace straight away! A really

dark time in our life. I wish so much I had found this website then, the

girls seem so know so much and I felt so very very alone. could not

be put in a plaster cast until he could be put to sleep and this could only

be done after his cleft surgery which took place at 11 months. He was in a

brace which could be taken off but I still hated it.

He has been in a plaster cast since June and is on his second one. Reading

all the messages on this site is so uplifting. I really, really thought I

was the only one who had a little baby in a plaster jacket! I think the

norm is to have the cast on for 3 months at a time. ¹s first plaster

cast sort of fell off after that time so he needed a new one.

I too don¹t know what the future holds. may have surgery sometime

in the future. I hate not being able to give him a bath and how heavy he is

to hold, but if it is doing some good, and he can cope, then so can I!!

x x

On 26/10/06 08:59, " lowsonjade " <lowsonjade@...> wrote:

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>

> Hi everyone, i'm new here so thought I'd share my story. I live in

> England and my 2 1/2 yr old girl,Amy has idiopathic scoliosis. She is

> currently in her 1st cast which she has had on for about 3months (which

> i feel is quite a long time after reading that some of your children

> have theirs changed every 6 weeks!)I first noticed that Amy had a

> larger hip on one side when she was 10 months old, the doctor told me

> it was soft tissue so i left it at that, however her hip became more

> noticable and i could see that her back wasn't straight, i took her

> back to the doctors to be reassured that it was only soft tissue,after

> the 3rd time i asked to be referred to a specialist which was when she

> was finally diagnosed with scoliosis(she was 2 by now)After having her

> MRI scan i was told that she would be casted for about 2 years, though

> surgery may be needed at the end of this time, does anyone have an

> infant that has been told they may need surgery but as the time came

> they have just used braces instead? i would appreciate any information,

> thanks, jade

>

>

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Hi , i think the worse part of having the cast is the fact that you

cant bath them but Amy is coping really well with not being able to

have one, her sisters and brother go in when she's asleep so that they

dont upset her. If all goes well then after the 2years of casting Amy

will have a brace which i've been told by the docs that its a good

thing in a way as it means the curve has straightened but Amy will

probably hate me for putting it on her so i really feel for you having

had to put it on . Now that is in a cast, how's he coping?

There aren't many members that come from England(i'm in Sunderland)on

this site and i found that the casting methods are quite different

(from what i've read and pictures that i've seen),Amy's cast has a hole

in the belly to allow her to expand a little when eating, is this the

same for , also does his go over the arms like Amy's? Anyway, as

you said if they can cope, so can we!!! jade

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Hey Mel K

Welcome to our home you find it very comfortable here. There is always

someone around to lend a shoulder to you or to have a good laugh with

you. On Sunday 12 November we are having a picnic lunch at Wahroonga

park just opposite the station and we would love to have you come along

and join us.

Mazz

m_keramea wrote:

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> HI everyone, just thought I'd make a quick intro My name is melissa,I

> was banded by dr talbot on 13/10/06 my weight was 179kg now down to

> 160kg I am so glad that there is such a supportive site out there and

> you all sound like wonderful people looking forward to getting to know

> you all cheers mel.k

>

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Wow , already down 19kg, you must be stoked!!! Well done!

>-- Original Message --

>

>From: " m_keramea " <m_keramea@...>

>Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 22:58:22 -0000

>Subject: hi I'm new here

>Reply-

>

>

>HI everyone, just thought I'd make a quick intro My name is melissa,I

>was banded by dr talbot on 13/10/06 my weight was 179kg now down to

>160kg I am so glad that there is such a supportive site out there and

>you all sound like wonderful people looking forward to getting to know

>you all cheers mel.k

>

>

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> hi melisa welcome.

what a great effort, you should be over the moon ,I was banded on

5/4/06, and have only lost 23kg.

what a fantastic effort. things might slow down for u about the 3-4

week mark, but this is very normal, until u have some restriction .

naz

HI everyone, just thought I'd make a quick intro My name is melissa,I

> was banded by dr talbot on 13/10/06 my weight was 179kg now down to

> 160kg I am so glad that there is such a supportive site out there and

> you all sound like wonderful people looking forward to getting to

know

> you all cheers mel.k

>

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> hi melisa welcome.

what a great effort, you should be over the moon ,I was banded on

5/4/06, and have only lost 23kg.

what a fantastic effort. things might slow down for u about the 3-4

week mark, but this is very normal, until u have some restriction .

naz

HI everyone, just thought I'd make a quick intro My name is melissa,I

> was banded by dr talbot on 13/10/06 my weight was 179kg now down to

> 160kg I am so glad that there is such a supportive site out there and

> you all sound like wonderful people looking forward to getting to

know

> you all cheers mel.k

>

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> hi melisa welcome.

what a great effort, you should be over the moon ,I was banded on

5/4/06, and have only lost 23kg.

what a fantastic effort. things might slow down for u about the 3-4

week mark, but this is very normal, until u have some restriction .

naz

HI everyone, just thought I'd make a quick intro My name is melissa,I

> was banded by dr talbot on 13/10/06 my weight was 179kg now down to

> 160kg I am so glad that there is such a supportive site out there and

> you all sound like wonderful people looking forward to getting to

know

> you all cheers mel.k

>

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IMO your accupuncturist is exactly right but I am not sure why you would

have to " wean yourself onto it gradually " . you will start to feel

better when you get the right doses and there is nothing scary about

these nutrients. there is a site called

http://www.fibromyalgiarecovery.com

Gracia

pepperypenguin wrote:

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>

> Hello,

>

> My acupuncturist (who is also a western trained doctor) wants me to

> start taking Lugols, Magnesium transdermal spray and Selenium weaning

> me onto it gradually, as well as natural sea salt. I have several

> health problems... Fibromyalgia, M.E.(CFS), Sjogren's Syndrome and

> Asthma. I also have very low (borderline) adrenal function but just

> within " normal " range. I've been ill for 20 odd years and seeing this

> Acupuncturist for 12 years so he knows my health problems very well. I

> suffer from a great deal of pain, neurological symptoms and exhaustion

> among other things.

>

> I'm trying to read up before agreeing to try the new regime but my

> health makes it very hard to do that, let alone remember what I've

> read. I was wondering if anyone has any opinions or thoughts on trying

> iodine considering my particular illnesses. I don't want to make

> things irreversibly worse (of course nobody does).

>

> I take Pregabalin, asthma inhalers and Hydroxychloroquine.

>

> Any thoughts would be very gratefully received.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Alice

>

>

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