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> Kristy

> -gonna have the cleanest uterus in Australia!

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Kristy...that should do the trick.

I hope your adding extra Iron to your suppliments, with all the

extra bleeding your have been doing your going to need it.

Hugs

Jo

Who feels a need to cross her legs because I'm becoming self-

conscious about my dirty uterus.

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Hey there sis. I am sooo sorry to hear about this. The very same

thing happened to me (and actually keeps happening). I would have a

cycle for 2 months straigfht. They even put me on double dose birth

control and I believe Estrogen pills. I just allowed it to play out

and it finally stopped but I was having extreme pain too and they did

an ultrasound and it was nothing. Funny how the woman's body is. Then

sometimes I will skip my period for a whole month. I believe we were

doomed to have messed up cycles. Hope they can tap into the problem

though!

-a (Ms.Diva)

> Thanks to everyone for your prayers and support..my ultrasound and

blood test results came back ok. No cysts, tumours etc..so thats

great! Only thing is, I am still bleeding (11 weeks now) and we dont

have a solution. I am going to be scheduled for a hospital procedure

in which they knock me out and clean the uterus out. Forgot what the

procedure was called (starts with a C?) Anyway, that apparantly will

double check everything out.

>

> Kristy

> -gonna have the cleanest uterus in Australia!

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> Kristy

> -gonna have the cleanest uterus in Australia!

Curettage! French for " spooning " as in D & C, dilation and curettage.

Marta

Who knows her French, just ask her kids!

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I missed this whole thread! I swear it's impossible to keep up with

this list ... too friggin busy!! ANYWAY... I'm sorry you are having

to deal with this. I still think that the flood of estrogen from

weightloss wreaks havoc with our female organs after the DS. There

will probably be some study about it in 20 years!

Good luck on your D & C. Prayers and good thoughts coming your way.

I'll touch base after I'm back from Brazil with me and my flat tummy,

perky boobs, lifted mons, and lipo'd chin <grin>

Hugs,

--Kym

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Hi Rick,

The cleansing/flushing all seems either so complicated or too expensive. What

is the simplest and least expensive way to do any/all of the cleanses? (cost

is a problem for those of us working part-time or out of work and without

health care.)

Chris

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Rick-

I am very excited for you!!!! I am seeing an MD tomorrow who specializes

in Candida and Hg toxicity. I have ordered " The Key..... " by s. I

should be receiving it the mail anyday now. It seems that nothing has

helped me. I feel good for a few days, but lately I have been feeling like

crap. It seems strengthening the organs of elimination and getting rid of

toxins is the way to go. All of these damn supplements that I have been

taking are worthless if my organs (liver, colon, kidneys) are inefficient at

removing toxins and wastes. I can't wait to start the flushes. I plan on

following s' protocol after I read his book. Thanks for posting. You

and g have given me hope!!!!

-Patty

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>From: " slickrick605 " <slickrick605@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: My Health

>Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:52:36 -0000

>

>I'm sitting here eating a bowl of ice cream. Yesterday I went nuts

>and ate a loaf of bread, and chocolate chips that are used for

>making cookies. I ate them until my stomach felt sick from

>overeating chocolates, not a candida reaction, but a normal reaction

>from overeating chocolate. I washed that down with a 2 liter bottle

>of Coke.

>Over the weekend, my girl friend made cookies, I had at least three

>dozen, and got stomach sick, but no candida symptoms.

>Several months ago, I couldn't smell a slice of bread without getting

>sick, now I can eat things that I haven't had since the late 80's.

>I've taken colloidal silver, oil of oregano, paragone, candigone,

>sf722, paramicrocidin, hydrocloric acid, many different probiotics,

>fos, crap for my liver, chinese medicines, I've fasted, done enemas

>(which helped), ate nothing but organic meats, mostly organic

>veggies, and drank distilled water for the longest time. Some things

>helped, but not things leveled off, and I was still very sick.

>Some foods and chemicals still bother me, but the improvements that

>I've made since starting the liver flushes, and cleanses are fuckin

>amazing!

>Right now I flush my liver every two to four weeks. I'm using a

>product called colosan to clean my colon. I use herbs to flush my

>kidneys, and I drink 2 to 4 cups of Pau D Arco tea daily. That's it,

>along with a few simple lifestyle changes, and a diet that I should

>be following.

>There are several others on here saying the same thing, g is one

>of them. It works people!

> and others keep talking about " The Key to Health and

>Rejuvenation " and " The Amazing Liver Cleanse " both by s Moritz.

>I have " The Key..... " , and the book is amazing. s is amazing!

>I know that I still have to continue until my body is working right

>again, and I can't continue to eat crap, but I know now the simple

>truth that I've been searching for since the late 80's, I now know!

>I plan on getting checked for heavy metal toxicity, but my candida is

>finally getting under control after all these years!!!!!!!!!!

>The idea is to clean up your body, and get it to work the way that

>God intended it to.

>

>Take the step if you want to get well.

>

>

>Rick

>

>

>

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when you find the truth it smacks you in the head... you wonder how

you failed to see, its so simple. I see so many posts about this supp

or that supp, and my heart goes out to these people, they are missing

the point.

g

> I'm sitting here eating a bowl of ice cream. Yesterday I went nuts

> and ate a loaf of bread, and chocolate chips that are used for

> making cookies. I ate them until my stomach felt sick from

> overeating chocolates, not a candida reaction, but a normal reaction

> from overeating chocolate. I washed that down with a 2 liter bottle

> of Coke.

> Over the weekend, my girl friend made cookies, I had at least three

> dozen, and got stomach sick, but no candida symptoms.

> Several months ago, I couldn't smell a slice of bread without getting

> sick, now I can eat things that I haven't had since the late 80's.

> I've taken colloidal silver, oil of oregano, paragone, candigone,

> sf722, paramicrocidin, hydrocloric acid, many different probiotics,

> fos, crap for my liver, chinese medicines, I've fasted, done enemas

> (which helped), ate nothing but organic meats, mostly organic

> veggies, and drank distilled water for the longest time. Some things

> helped, but not things leveled off, and I was still very sick.

> Some foods and chemicals still bother me, but the improvements that

> I've made since starting the liver flushes, and cleanses are fuckin

> amazing!

> Right now I flush my liver every two to four weeks. I'm using a

> product called colosan to clean my colon. I use herbs to flush my

> kidneys, and I drink 2 to 4 cups of Pau D Arco tea daily. That's it,

> along with a few simple lifestyle changes, and a diet that I should

> be following.

> There are several others on here saying the same thing, g is one

> of them. It works people!

> and others keep talking about " The Key to Health and

> Rejuvenation " and " The Amazing Liver Cleanse " both by s Moritz.

> I have " The Key..... " , and the book is amazing. s is amazing!

> I know that I still have to continue until my body is working right

> again, and I can't continue to eat crap, but I know now the simple

> truth that I've been searching for since the late 80's, I now know!

> I plan on getting checked for heavy metal toxicity, but my candida is

> finally getting under control after all these years!!!!!!!!!!

> The idea is to clean up your body, and get it to work the way that

> God intended it to.

>

> Take the step if you want to get well.

>

>

> Rick

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Thanks Patty. I'm glad that you're getting the book. It's helped me

so much.

He is kind of vague on a few things in the book, but if you have

questions, you can ask us here, or go to his forum " Ask s " on

curezone.com, and he'll answer them for you.

I'm 48, and some of the things that he talks about in his book are

things my folks had me do when I was a kid.

It's funny how we got away from things that worked. Fresh air,

sunshine, pesticide and chemical free foods.

I live in a very old New England town. It was founded in the late

1600's. I like to read the headstones in the old cemetary in the

center of town, and there are an awful lot of people that lived into

their 70's 80's and 90's way back then. Today most of the elderly are

on tons of meds, and not in the best of shape.

Please let me know what you think of the book.

Rick

> Rick-

>

> I am very excited for you!!!! I am seeing an MD tomorrow who

specializes

> in Candida and Hg toxicity. I have ordered " The Key..... " by

s. I

> should be receiving it the mail anyday now. It seems that nothing

has

> helped me. I feel good for a few days, but lately I have been

feeling like

> crap. It seems strengthening the organs of elimination and getting

rid of

> toxins is the way to go. All of these damn supplements that I have

been

> taking are worthless if my organs (liver, colon, kidneys) are

inefficient at

> removing toxins and wastes. I can't wait to start the flushes. I

plan on

> following s' protocol after I read his book. Thanks for

posting. You

> and g have given me hope!!!!

>

> -Patty

>

>

>

> Over ten million animals are abused, neglected or abandoned yearly.

Over

> 27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day!

Visit The

> Animal Rescue Site (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every

day to

> give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- and participate in the

fight to

> save animals in need.

>

>

> " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die;

> until their money is all gone;

> or until they are cured by nature. "

>

> Descartes

> Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician

> 1596 - 1650

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You're so right . I first joined this group in I think Sept of

2002. Back then people were talking about cleansing, and using things

similar to colosan, but I didn't see it, so I stuck with throwing my

money away on other things. I guess that I just needed to try the

other methods first for some reason.

Rick

> when you find the truth it smacks you in the head... you wonder how

> you failed to see, its so simple. I see so many posts about this

supp

> or that supp, and my heart goes out to these people, they are

missing

> the point.

>

> g

>

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> I live in a very old New England town. It was founded in the late

> 1600's. I like to read the headstones in the old cemetary in the

> center of town, and there are an awful lot of people that lived

into

> their 70's 80's and 90's way back then.

Which very old New England town do you live in? I grew up in a very

old New England town (1630's?), but now I live in Colorado.

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Hi Chris

I've been out of work for almost 3 years.

The liver flushes are very inexpensive. You do them every two to

three weeks. You'll need epsom salts, 2 grapefruits, 1/2 cup cold

pressed extra virgin olive oil, 10 drops of black walnut hull

tinture. There are other things you can add like malic acid, or gold

coin grass prior to the flush to soften the stones, but I don't.

There are a lot of different options for cleansing the colon, the

best being a series of colonics, which are expensive. I use a product

called colosan. It cost me just under $30 including shipping, for a 5

to 6 months supply.

http://www.healthsavers.info/Colosan.htm

http://www7.mailordercentral.com/familyhealthnews/products.asp?dept=1

I buy kidney cleansing herbs in bulk at the local health food store.

It's much cheaper that way, and I know that they haven't been altered.

The highest cost that I have right now is eating organic fresh

vegetables and chemical free meats.

http://www.themeatrix.com/

http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=219 & i=811

Hope this helps, I tried to keep it simple, but there are a lot of

options. What I like, you might not.

Rick

> Hi Rick,

>

> The cleansing/flushing all seems either so complicated or too

expensive. What

> is the simplest and least expensive way to do any/all of the

cleanses? (cost

> is a problem for those of us working part-time or out of work and

without

> health care.)

>

> Chris

>

>

>

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Well, today I visited a holistic MD

(http://www.preventionandhealing.com/index.html) and learned that my

problems are due to a parasite. My liver, allergies, and dental tested

poorly using a device called Acupuncture Meridian Assessment

(http://www.preventionandhealing.com/new_pub/Acupuncture%20Meridian%20Assessment\

%20-%20New%20Medicine%20Based%20on%20Ancient%20Principles.pdf)

I will be cleaning my intestines for the next month and then take a powerful

anti-parasitic medicine. He also did a hair analysis test. He said that I

was allergic to wheat, corn, and peanuts. He wants to focus on getting rid

of the parasite before inquiring about my dental problems (which I suspect

are Hg related, as I also tested for heavy metal toxicity).

So, it looks like Candida overgrowth is not my problem. This makes sense

since all of the supplements I had taken just made me more sick.

BTW, I received Andeas' book today. I will start reading it after I get

home from work. I am so excited that I now know what has been making me so

ill.

So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your problem may

not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean your

body.

-Patty

" A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die;

until their money is all gone;

or until they are cured by nature. "

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Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician

1596 - 1650

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I'm so happy for you Patty!

You're on your way to regaining your health. :)

Rick

> Well, today I visited a holistic MD

> (http://www.preventionandhealing.com/index.html) and learned that

my

> problems are due to a parasite. My liver, allergies, and dental

tested

> poorly using a device called Acupuncture Meridian Assessment

> (http://www.preventionandhealing.com/new_pub/Acupuncture%20Meridian%

20Assessment%20-%20New%20Medicine%20Based%20on%20Ancient%

20Principles.pdf)

>

> I will be cleaning my intestines for the next month and then take a

powerful

> anti-parasitic medicine. He also did a hair analysis test. He

said that I

> was allergic to wheat, corn, and peanuts. He wants to focus on

getting rid

> of the parasite before inquiring about my dental problems (which I

suspect

> are Hg related, as I also tested for heavy metal toxicity).

>

> So, it looks like Candida overgrowth is not my problem. This makes

sense

> since all of the supplements I had taken just made me more sick.

>

> BTW, I received Andeas' book today. I will start reading it after

I get

> home from work. I am so excited that I now know what has been

making me so

> ill.

>

> So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your

problem may

> not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean

your

> body.

>

> -Patty

>

>

>

>

> " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die;

> until their money is all gone;

> or until they are cured by nature. "

>

> Descartes

> Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician

> 1596 - 1650

>

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I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health and go to

doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong

How does one even get started looking in the holistic field

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Date: 12/10/2003 8:46:59 PM Eastern Standard Time

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>So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your

problem may

>not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean

your

>body.

>

>-Patty

I agree completely. Diagnosing yourself is not something I'd

recommend. I'm glad I saw a doctor to be diagnosed instead of

guessing what I had & ending up wasting time treating something I

didn't have.

Ellen

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> So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your

problem may

> not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean

your

> body.

>

> -Patty

I agree completely. Diagnosing yourself is not something I'd

recommend. I'm glad I saw a doctor to be diagnosed instead of

guessing what I had & ending up wasting time treating something I

didn't have.

Ellen

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> I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health

and go to

> doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong

> How does one even get started looking in the holistic field

>

I got my referral from a friend. My doctor is luckilly an MD who

specializes in holistic medicine but she does have an MD as well. I

live in a small rural town in VT so finding this type of doctor was

really hard. Have you tried asking at local health food stores or

checking the bulletin boards there for similar types of practitioners?

Ellen

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I live in a pretty large city, so finding a holistic practitioner was not

too hard. Sometimes your local health food store may be able to suggest

holistic physicians. Also check inside any local " health " periodical or

magazine. You can also look in the phone book. Physicians that practice

under " preventive " medicine or " holistic " medicine should be called. Ask

them what kinds of treatments they offer as well as what types of diseases.

The Doctor I go to actually advertises that he works with many people who

feel sick and have been undiagnosed by other physicians. Good Luck.

-Patty

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27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day! Visit The

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until their money is all gone;

or until they are cured by nature. "

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>From: sensualwordz@...

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: Re: My Health

>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:41:37 EST

>

>

>I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health and go to

>doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong

>How does one even get started looking in the holistic field

>

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> Date: 12/10/2003 8:46:59 PM Eastern Standard Time

> From: <A HREF= " mailto:lena_d_l@... " >lena_d_l@...</A>

> Reply-to: <A

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>

>

>

> >

> >So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your

>problem may

> >not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean

>your

> >body.

> >

> >-Patty

>

>

>I agree completely. Diagnosing yourself is not something I'd

>recommend. I'm glad I saw a doctor to be diagnosed instead of

>guessing what I had & ending up wasting time treating something I

>didn't have.

>

>Ellen

>

>

>

>

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Patty,

Just out of curiousity, what did your hair analysis reveal? I had one

done a few months ago and am interested in comparing notes. For

instance my results show that I am low on almost every mineral with

the exception of calcium and magnesium but they are not within the

proper ratios so apparently they are not being absorbed properly. My

MD recommends over 50 supplements per day which they just happen to

sell for " only $256 per month " . At the same time they recommend

various other costly treatments and I am very confused as to whether

this is a scam or it is actually the answer.

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Okay, I'm giving this colosan a try. I also ordered the s

Moritz cleansing books. The liver cleanse sounds scary!

Grace

I use a product

> called colosan. It cost me just under $30 including shipping, for a

5

> to 6 months supply.

>

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If you are not absorbing.. supplements are only a temporary expensive

crutch. focus on curing your digestion... and you will absorb all the

nutrients you need (and save yourself some money).

g

> Patty,

>

> Just out of curiousity, what did your hair analysis reveal? I had one

> done a few months ago and am interested in comparing notes. For

> instance my results show that I am low on almost every mineral with

> the exception of calcium and magnesium but they are not within the

> proper ratios so apparently they are not being absorbed properly. My

> MD recommends over 50 supplements per day which they just happen to

> sell for " only $256 per month " . At the same time they recommend

> various other costly treatments and I am very confused as to whether

> this is a scam or it is actually the answer.

>

>

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Hello lena_d_l@...,

In reference to your comment:

è > I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned

è over your health and go to > doctor after doctor and

è no one finds whats wrong

And its also sad that the insurance companies will pay for mri's allergy

testing 2 colonoscopes gi series scores of prescriptions for anti-biotics

and

specialists fees but they wont pay for holistic testing

========Original Message========

Subj: Re: My Health

Date: 12/11/2003 9:48:30 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: <A HREF= " mailto:lena_d_l@... " >lena_d_l@...</A>

Reply-to: <A

HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A>

<A

HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A>

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>

>I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health

and go to

>doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong

>How does one even get started looking in the holistic field

>

I got my referral from a friend. My doctor is luckilly an MD who

specializes in holistic medicine but she does have an MD as well. I

live in a small rural town in VT so finding this type of doctor was

really hard. Have you tried asking at local health food stores or

checking the bulletin boards there for similar types of practitioners?

Ellen

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I was worried before doing the first one too Grace. I did a lot of

research, and waited until I was comfortable enough to do it.

It wasn't at all that bad. I've done 6 in total, and looking forward

to doing another this weekend.

When you're ready, I can give you some tips that will help. You

should also read the posts in the liver flush forum as well as

the " Ask s " forum on curezone.com

Rick

> Okay, I'm giving this colosan a try. I also ordered the s

> Moritz cleansing books. The liver cleanse sounds scary!

>

> Grace

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-

I will not know my results until my next appointment which is in early

January. I will definitely post my results with everyone.

-Patty

Over ten million animals are abused, neglected or abandoned yearly. Over

27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day! Visit The

Animal Rescue Site (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every day to

give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- and participate in the fight to

save animals in need.

" A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die;

until their money is all gone;

or until they are cured by nature. "

Descartes

Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician

1596 - 1650

>From: " phelch66 " <mjnjpilch@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: My Health

>Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:34:19 -0000

>

>Patty,

>

>Just out of curiousity, what did your hair analysis reveal? I had one

>done a few months ago and am interested in comparing notes. For

>instance my results show that I am low on almost every mineral with

>the exception of calcium and magnesium but they are not within the

>proper ratios so apparently they are not being absorbed properly. My

>MD recommends over 50 supplements per day which they just happen to

>sell for " only $256 per month " . At the same time they recommend

>various other costly treatments and I am very confused as to whether

>this is a scam or it is actually the answer.

>

>

>

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>

> If you are not absorbing.. supplements are only a temporary expensive

> crutch. focus on curing your digestion... and you will absorb all the

> nutrients you need (and save yourself some money).

>

> g

Exactly what I've been saying, g. That's why we need inulin for the

bowel, and sometimes digestive enzymes, and sometimes betaine or glutamic

acid to increase hydrochloric acid in the stomach.

Duncan Crow

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