Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 > Kristy > -gonna have the cleanest uterus in Australia! ========================= Kristy...that should do the trick. I hope your adding extra Iron to your suppliments, with all the extra bleeding your have been doing your going to need it. Hugs Jo Who feels a need to cross her legs because I'm becoming self- conscious about my dirty uterus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 Hey there sis. I am sooo sorry to hear about this. The very same thing happened to me (and actually keeps happening). I would have a cycle for 2 months straigfht. They even put me on double dose birth control and I believe Estrogen pills. I just allowed it to play out and it finally stopped but I was having extreme pain too and they did an ultrasound and it was nothing. Funny how the woman's body is. Then sometimes I will skip my period for a whole month. I believe we were doomed to have messed up cycles. Hope they can tap into the problem though! -a (Ms.Diva) > Thanks to everyone for your prayers and support..my ultrasound and blood test results came back ok. No cysts, tumours etc..so thats great! Only thing is, I am still bleeding (11 weeks now) and we dont have a solution. I am going to be scheduled for a hospital procedure in which they knock me out and clean the uterus out. Forgot what the procedure was called (starts with a C?) Anyway, that apparantly will double check everything out. > > Kristy > -gonna have the cleanest uterus in Australia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2003 Report Share Posted August 7, 2003 > > Kristy > -gonna have the cleanest uterus in Australia! Curettage! French for " spooning " as in D & C, dilation and curettage. Marta Who knows her French, just ask her kids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2003 Report Share Posted August 8, 2003 I missed this whole thread! I swear it's impossible to keep up with this list ... too friggin busy!! ANYWAY... I'm sorry you are having to deal with this. I still think that the flood of estrogen from weightloss wreaks havoc with our female organs after the DS. There will probably be some study about it in 20 years! Good luck on your D & C. Prayers and good thoughts coming your way. I'll touch base after I'm back from Brazil with me and my flat tummy, perky boobs, lifted mons, and lipo'd chin <grin> Hugs, --Kym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Hi Rick, The cleansing/flushing all seems either so complicated or too expensive. What is the simplest and least expensive way to do any/all of the cleanses? (cost is a problem for those of us working part-time or out of work and without health care.) Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Rick- I am very excited for you!!!! I am seeing an MD tomorrow who specializes in Candida and Hg toxicity. I have ordered " The Key..... " by s. I should be receiving it the mail anyday now. It seems that nothing has helped me. I feel good for a few days, but lately I have been feeling like crap. It seems strengthening the organs of elimination and getting rid of toxins is the way to go. All of these damn supplements that I have been taking are worthless if my organs (liver, colon, kidneys) are inefficient at removing toxins and wastes. I can't wait to start the flushes. I plan on following s' protocol after I read his book. Thanks for posting. You and g have given me hope!!!! -Patty Over ten million animals are abused, neglected or abandoned yearly. Over 27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day! Visit The Animal Rescue Site (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every day to give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- and participate in the fight to save animals in need. " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die; until their money is all gone; or until they are cured by nature. " Descartes Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician 1596 - 1650 >From: " slickrick605 " <slickrick605@...> >Reply-candidiasis >candidiasis >Subject: My Health >Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 20:52:36 -0000 > >I'm sitting here eating a bowl of ice cream. Yesterday I went nuts >and ate a loaf of bread, and chocolate chips that are used for >making cookies. I ate them until my stomach felt sick from >overeating chocolates, not a candida reaction, but a normal reaction >from overeating chocolate. I washed that down with a 2 liter bottle >of Coke. >Over the weekend, my girl friend made cookies, I had at least three >dozen, and got stomach sick, but no candida symptoms. >Several months ago, I couldn't smell a slice of bread without getting >sick, now I can eat things that I haven't had since the late 80's. >I've taken colloidal silver, oil of oregano, paragone, candigone, >sf722, paramicrocidin, hydrocloric acid, many different probiotics, >fos, crap for my liver, chinese medicines, I've fasted, done enemas >(which helped), ate nothing but organic meats, mostly organic >veggies, and drank distilled water for the longest time. Some things >helped, but not things leveled off, and I was still very sick. >Some foods and chemicals still bother me, but the improvements that >I've made since starting the liver flushes, and cleanses are fuckin >amazing! >Right now I flush my liver every two to four weeks. I'm using a >product called colosan to clean my colon. I use herbs to flush my >kidneys, and I drink 2 to 4 cups of Pau D Arco tea daily. That's it, >along with a few simple lifestyle changes, and a diet that I should >be following. >There are several others on here saying the same thing, g is one >of them. It works people! > and others keep talking about " The Key to Health and >Rejuvenation " and " The Amazing Liver Cleanse " both by s Moritz. >I have " The Key..... " , and the book is amazing. s is amazing! >I know that I still have to continue until my body is working right >again, and I can't continue to eat crap, but I know now the simple >truth that I've been searching for since the late 80's, I now know! >I plan on getting checked for heavy metal toxicity, but my candida is >finally getting under control after all these years!!!!!!!!!! >The idea is to clean up your body, and get it to work the way that >God intended it to. > >Take the step if you want to get well. > > >Rick > > > _________________________________________________________________ Winterize your home with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 when you find the truth it smacks you in the head... you wonder how you failed to see, its so simple. I see so many posts about this supp or that supp, and my heart goes out to these people, they are missing the point. g > I'm sitting here eating a bowl of ice cream. Yesterday I went nuts > and ate a loaf of bread, and chocolate chips that are used for > making cookies. I ate them until my stomach felt sick from > overeating chocolates, not a candida reaction, but a normal reaction > from overeating chocolate. I washed that down with a 2 liter bottle > of Coke. > Over the weekend, my girl friend made cookies, I had at least three > dozen, and got stomach sick, but no candida symptoms. > Several months ago, I couldn't smell a slice of bread without getting > sick, now I can eat things that I haven't had since the late 80's. > I've taken colloidal silver, oil of oregano, paragone, candigone, > sf722, paramicrocidin, hydrocloric acid, many different probiotics, > fos, crap for my liver, chinese medicines, I've fasted, done enemas > (which helped), ate nothing but organic meats, mostly organic > veggies, and drank distilled water for the longest time. Some things > helped, but not things leveled off, and I was still very sick. > Some foods and chemicals still bother me, but the improvements that > I've made since starting the liver flushes, and cleanses are fuckin > amazing! > Right now I flush my liver every two to four weeks. I'm using a > product called colosan to clean my colon. I use herbs to flush my > kidneys, and I drink 2 to 4 cups of Pau D Arco tea daily. That's it, > along with a few simple lifestyle changes, and a diet that I should > be following. > There are several others on here saying the same thing, g is one > of them. It works people! > and others keep talking about " The Key to Health and > Rejuvenation " and " The Amazing Liver Cleanse " both by s Moritz. > I have " The Key..... " , and the book is amazing. s is amazing! > I know that I still have to continue until my body is working right > again, and I can't continue to eat crap, but I know now the simple > truth that I've been searching for since the late 80's, I now know! > I plan on getting checked for heavy metal toxicity, but my candida is > finally getting under control after all these years!!!!!!!!!! > The idea is to clean up your body, and get it to work the way that > God intended it to. > > Take the step if you want to get well. > > > Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2003 Report Share Posted December 9, 2003 Thanks Patty. I'm glad that you're getting the book. It's helped me so much. He is kind of vague on a few things in the book, but if you have questions, you can ask us here, or go to his forum " Ask s " on curezone.com, and he'll answer them for you. I'm 48, and some of the things that he talks about in his book are things my folks had me do when I was a kid. It's funny how we got away from things that worked. Fresh air, sunshine, pesticide and chemical free foods. I live in a very old New England town. It was founded in the late 1600's. I like to read the headstones in the old cemetary in the center of town, and there are an awful lot of people that lived into their 70's 80's and 90's way back then. Today most of the elderly are on tons of meds, and not in the best of shape. Please let me know what you think of the book. Rick > Rick- > > I am very excited for you!!!! I am seeing an MD tomorrow who specializes > in Candida and Hg toxicity. I have ordered " The Key..... " by s. I > should be receiving it the mail anyday now. It seems that nothing has > helped me. I feel good for a few days, but lately I have been feeling like > crap. It seems strengthening the organs of elimination and getting rid of > toxins is the way to go. All of these damn supplements that I have been > taking are worthless if my organs (liver, colon, kidneys) are inefficient at > removing toxins and wastes. I can't wait to start the flushes. I plan on > following s' protocol after I read his book. Thanks for posting. You > and g have given me hope!!!! > > -Patty > > > > Over ten million animals are abused, neglected or abandoned yearly. Over > 27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day! Visit The > Animal Rescue Site (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every day to > give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- and participate in the fight to > save animals in need. > > > " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die; > until their money is all gone; > or until they are cured by nature. " > > Descartes > Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician > 1596 - 1650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 You're so right . I first joined this group in I think Sept of 2002. Back then people were talking about cleansing, and using things similar to colosan, but I didn't see it, so I stuck with throwing my money away on other things. I guess that I just needed to try the other methods first for some reason. Rick > when you find the truth it smacks you in the head... you wonder how > you failed to see, its so simple. I see so many posts about this supp > or that supp, and my heart goes out to these people, they are missing > the point. > > g > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 > I live in a very old New England town. It was founded in the late > 1600's. I like to read the headstones in the old cemetary in the > center of town, and there are an awful lot of people that lived into > their 70's 80's and 90's way back then. Which very old New England town do you live in? I grew up in a very old New England town (1630's?), but now I live in Colorado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Hi Chris I've been out of work for almost 3 years. The liver flushes are very inexpensive. You do them every two to three weeks. You'll need epsom salts, 2 grapefruits, 1/2 cup cold pressed extra virgin olive oil, 10 drops of black walnut hull tinture. There are other things you can add like malic acid, or gold coin grass prior to the flush to soften the stones, but I don't. There are a lot of different options for cleansing the colon, the best being a series of colonics, which are expensive. I use a product called colosan. It cost me just under $30 including shipping, for a 5 to 6 months supply. http://www.healthsavers.info/Colosan.htm http://www7.mailordercentral.com/familyhealthnews/products.asp?dept=1 I buy kidney cleansing herbs in bulk at the local health food store. It's much cheaper that way, and I know that they haven't been altered. The highest cost that I have right now is eating organic fresh vegetables and chemical free meats. http://www.themeatrix.com/ http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=219 & i=811 Hope this helps, I tried to keep it simple, but there are a lot of options. What I like, you might not. Rick > Hi Rick, > > The cleansing/flushing all seems either so complicated or too expensive. What > is the simplest and least expensive way to do any/all of the cleanses? (cost > is a problem for those of us working part-time or out of work and without > health care.) > > Chris > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2003 Report Share Posted December 10, 2003 Well, today I visited a holistic MD (http://www.preventionandhealing.com/index.html) and learned that my problems are due to a parasite. My liver, allergies, and dental tested poorly using a device called Acupuncture Meridian Assessment (http://www.preventionandhealing.com/new_pub/Acupuncture%20Meridian%20Assessment\ %20-%20New%20Medicine%20Based%20on%20Ancient%20Principles.pdf) I will be cleaning my intestines for the next month and then take a powerful anti-parasitic medicine. He also did a hair analysis test. He said that I was allergic to wheat, corn, and peanuts. He wants to focus on getting rid of the parasite before inquiring about my dental problems (which I suspect are Hg related, as I also tested for heavy metal toxicity). So, it looks like Candida overgrowth is not my problem. This makes sense since all of the supplements I had taken just made me more sick. BTW, I received Andeas' book today. I will start reading it after I get home from work. I am so excited that I now know what has been making me so ill. So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your problem may not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean your body. -Patty " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die; until their money is all gone; or until they are cured by nature. " Descartes Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician 1596 - 1650 _________________________________________________________________ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I'm so happy for you Patty! You're on your way to regaining your health. Rick > Well, today I visited a holistic MD > (http://www.preventionandhealing.com/index.html) and learned that my > problems are due to a parasite. My liver, allergies, and dental tested > poorly using a device called Acupuncture Meridian Assessment > (http://www.preventionandhealing.com/new_pub/Acupuncture%20Meridian% 20Assessment%20-%20New%20Medicine%20Based%20on%20Ancient% 20Principles.pdf) > > I will be cleaning my intestines for the next month and then take a powerful > anti-parasitic medicine. He also did a hair analysis test. He said that I > was allergic to wheat, corn, and peanuts. He wants to focus on getting rid > of the parasite before inquiring about my dental problems (which I suspect > are Hg related, as I also tested for heavy metal toxicity). > > So, it looks like Candida overgrowth is not my problem. This makes sense > since all of the supplements I had taken just made me more sick. > > BTW, I received Andeas' book today. I will start reading it after I get > home from work. I am so excited that I now know what has been making me so > ill. > > So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your problem may > not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean your > body. > > -Patty > > > > > " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die; > until their money is all gone; > or until they are cured by nature. " > > Descartes > Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician > 1596 - 1650 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet > connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. > https://broadband.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health and go to doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong How does one even get started looking in the holistic field ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: My Health Date: 12/10/2003 8:46:59 PM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF= " mailto:lena_d_l@... " >lena_d_l@...</A> Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A> <A HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A> Sent from the Internet (Details) > >So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your problem may >not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean your >body. > >-Patty I agree completely. Diagnosing yourself is not something I'd recommend. I'm glad I saw a doctor to be diagnosed instead of guessing what I had & ending up wasting time treating something I didn't have. Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 > > So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your problem may > not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean your > body. > > -Patty I agree completely. Diagnosing yourself is not something I'd recommend. I'm glad I saw a doctor to be diagnosed instead of guessing what I had & ending up wasting time treating something I didn't have. Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 > > I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health and go to > doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong > How does one even get started looking in the holistic field > I got my referral from a friend. My doctor is luckilly an MD who specializes in holistic medicine but she does have an MD as well. I live in a small rural town in VT so finding this type of doctor was really hard. Have you tried asking at local health food stores or checking the bulletin boards there for similar types of practitioners? Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 I live in a pretty large city, so finding a holistic practitioner was not too hard. Sometimes your local health food store may be able to suggest holistic physicians. Also check inside any local " health " periodical or magazine. You can also look in the phone book. Physicians that practice under " preventive " medicine or " holistic " medicine should be called. Ask them what kinds of treatments they offer as well as what types of diseases. The Doctor I go to actually advertises that he works with many people who feel sick and have been undiagnosed by other physicians. Good Luck. -Patty Over ten million animals are abused, neglected or abandoned yearly. Over 27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day! Visit The Animal Rescue Site (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every day to give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- and participate in the fight to save animals in need. " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die; until their money is all gone; or until they are cured by nature. " Descartes Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician 1596 - 1650 >From: sensualwordz@... >Reply-candidiasis >candidiasis >Subject: Re: Re: My Health >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:41:37 EST > > >I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health and go to >doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong >How does one even get started looking in the holistic field > >========Original Message======== >Subj: Re: My Health > Date: 12/10/2003 8:46:59 PM Eastern Standard Time > From: <A HREF= " mailto:lena_d_l@... " >lena_d_l@...</A> > Reply-to: <A >HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A> > <A >HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A> > Sent from the Internet (Details) > > > > > > > >So I guess my message to everyone is this: get tested!! Your >problem may > >not be as simple as Candida Overgrowth. You may just need to clean >your > >body. > > > >-Patty > > >I agree completely. Diagnosing yourself is not something I'd >recommend. I'm glad I saw a doctor to be diagnosed instead of >guessing what I had & ending up wasting time treating something I >didn't have. > >Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Patty, Just out of curiousity, what did your hair analysis reveal? I had one done a few months ago and am interested in comparing notes. For instance my results show that I am low on almost every mineral with the exception of calcium and magnesium but they are not within the proper ratios so apparently they are not being absorbed properly. My MD recommends over 50 supplements per day which they just happen to sell for " only $256 per month " . At the same time they recommend various other costly treatments and I am very confused as to whether this is a scam or it is actually the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Okay, I'm giving this colosan a try. I also ordered the s Moritz cleansing books. The liver cleanse sounds scary! Grace I use a product > called colosan. It cost me just under $30 including shipping, for a 5 > to 6 months supply. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 If you are not absorbing.. supplements are only a temporary expensive crutch. focus on curing your digestion... and you will absorb all the nutrients you need (and save yourself some money). g > Patty, > > Just out of curiousity, what did your hair analysis reveal? I had one > done a few months ago and am interested in comparing notes. For > instance my results show that I am low on almost every mineral with > the exception of calcium and magnesium but they are not within the > proper ratios so apparently they are not being absorbed properly. My > MD recommends over 50 supplements per day which they just happen to > sell for " only $256 per month " . At the same time they recommend > various other costly treatments and I am very confused as to whether > this is a scam or it is actually the answer. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2003 Report Share Posted December 11, 2003 Hello lena_d_l@..., In reference to your comment: è > I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned è over your health and go to > doctor after doctor and è no one finds whats wrong And its also sad that the insurance companies will pay for mri's allergy testing 2 colonoscopes gi series scores of prescriptions for anti-biotics and specialists fees but they wont pay for holistic testing ========Original Message======== Subj: Re: My Health Date: 12/11/2003 9:48:30 AM Eastern Standard Time From: <A HREF= " mailto:lena_d_l@... " >lena_d_l@...</A> Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A> <A HREF= " mailto:candidiasis " >candidiasis </A> Sent from the Internet (Details) > >I think whats sad is that yoou can be concerned over your health and go to >doctor after doctor and no one finds whats wrong >How does one even get started looking in the holistic field > I got my referral from a friend. My doctor is luckilly an MD who specializes in holistic medicine but she does have an MD as well. I live in a small rural town in VT so finding this type of doctor was really hard. Have you tried asking at local health food stores or checking the bulletin boards there for similar types of practitioners? Ellen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I was worried before doing the first one too Grace. I did a lot of research, and waited until I was comfortable enough to do it. It wasn't at all that bad. I've done 6 in total, and looking forward to doing another this weekend. When you're ready, I can give you some tips that will help. You should also read the posts in the liver flush forum as well as the " Ask s " forum on curezone.com Rick > Okay, I'm giving this colosan a try. I also ordered the s > Moritz cleansing books. The liver cleanse sounds scary! > > Grace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 - I will not know my results until my next appointment which is in early January. I will definitely post my results with everyone. -Patty Over ten million animals are abused, neglected or abandoned yearly. Over 27,000 defenseless animals are being harmed or dying every day! Visit The Animal Rescue Site (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/home) every day to give a bowl of food -- at no cost to you -- and participate in the fight to save animals in need. " A physician is a person that treats a patient until they die; until their money is all gone; or until they are cured by nature. " Descartes Philosopher, Physicist, Physiologist, Mathematician 1596 - 1650 >From: " phelch66 " <mjnjpilch@...> >Reply-candidiasis >candidiasis >Subject: Re: My Health >Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:34:19 -0000 > >Patty, > >Just out of curiousity, what did your hair analysis reveal? I had one >done a few months ago and am interested in comparing notes. For >instance my results show that I am low on almost every mineral with >the exception of calcium and magnesium but they are not within the >proper ratios so apparently they are not being absorbed properly. My >MD recommends over 50 supplements per day which they just happen to >sell for " only $256 per month " . At the same time they recommend >various other costly treatments and I am very confused as to whether >this is a scam or it is actually the answer. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 > > > If you are not absorbing.. supplements are only a temporary expensive > crutch. focus on curing your digestion... and you will absorb all the > nutrients you need (and save yourself some money). > > g Exactly what I've been saying, g. That's why we need inulin for the bowel, and sometimes digestive enzymes, and sometimes betaine or glutamic acid to increase hydrochloric acid in the stomach. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Hello puhutes@..., In reference to your comment: è a part of the Leakygut and Lkygut what exactly is leaky gut??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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