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a doc told me 1/2 your weight in ounces of water a day - I pretty much have

stuck to that for years now.... funny thing - is that once we hit middle age

we have been drinking pop/caffeine, etc. for so long that we have lost our

natural 'thirst' cravings... once you start drinking a lot of water - it

comes back. Recently we went to an all day outing and I did not have much

water with me.... we ended up having to buy some water at this expensive

place and I think it was like $5 for a liter! But to us it was SOOO worth

it!! HA!

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>For those of you actively being healthy and

>determined to stay that way, what are your

>3 greatest concerns about your Drinking Water?

>Also do you consider drinking plenty of water

>(6-10, 8oz glasses) as necessary maintenance

>between cleansings?

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this is interesting you write this regarding back pain and water. I have saved many articles on this issue and this one is one of my favorites: This is written by a prominent back doc... :

" ...In the chronically painful joint conditions of the lower spine or joints of the hands and legs, the actual chronic and recurring pain itself is a signal of water deficiency in the area where pain is felt. The pain occurs because there is not enough water circulation to wash out the local acidity and the toxic substances. These regional joint pains are part of a series of newly understood crisis thirst signals of the body. Where the pain is felt depends on where the localized drought has settled in. Low back pain has two components: one, muscle spasm (this is the cause of 80% of back pain); two, disc degeneration that puts added strain on the tendons and ligaments in the spinal column. Both components are initiated by the onset of chronic dehydration.

All joint surfaces possess cartilage padding which covers and separates the joints' bone structures. This firm layer of cartilage contains a vast quantity of water which provides it with the ability to glide over the opposing cartilage surface and facilitates the necessary lubrication for the joint movements, thus prolonged dhydration that leaves the cartilage short of water will produce a greater friction and shearing stress at the cartilage contact points in the joint. In the process of shunting more circulation to the joint for its repair process, pain is produced. This pain is an indicator of local dehydration and inability of the joint to cope with the extra demands for its movement.

When cartilage is dehydrated, its gliding ability is decreased. The cartilage cells sense their dehydration and give out alarm signals of pain because they would soon die and peel off from their contact surfaces if used in their dehydrated state. The environment of cartilage is ALKALINE. In dehydration it becomes ACID. This acidity sensitizes the nerve endings that register pain.

Blood is made in the bone marrow. The actively growing blood cells in the marrow take priority over cartilage for the available water that goes through the bone structure. The blood and serum circulation to the cartilage is from its base and through its connection to the bone. The serum that reaches the cartilage brings with it the raw material needed to replace the layer that wears off as a result of the friction and shearing stress with its opposite cartilage contact points. When pain occurs in symmetrical joints, it indicates that the brain assesses the strain to be equal for all joints and assumes these jionts are not fully prepared to endure a particular level of pressure until one or all of them are fully hydrated. This type of pain has to be treated with a regular increase in water intake until the cartilage is fully hydrated and washed of its acidity and toxins. Often the pain travels from joint to joint; sometimes it appears in the corresponding joints in the other limb at the same time. Chronic pains have two components: Local nervous-system and brain-generated pains. Locally initiated pain is relieved by analgesics, but brain-level pain is not. Both pains are relieved by the intake of adequate water.

Cartilage is a gelatinous living tissue; its cells like to live in an ALKALINE environment. The alkalinity of the environment depends on the amount of water that flows through the cartilage to wash the acid away. Salt helps to extract the acidity from the inside of the cartilage cells and pass it into the water that carries the acid away. This is a constant process. For the process to be effective, two elements are vital: water and salt. Adequate salt supply is essential for the prevention of arthritis pain, be it in the joints of the limbs or the spine. It is the salt level in the serum that increases its fluid volume for more abundant flow through the cartilage.

WHAT HAPPENS TO A DEHYDRATED JOINT?

Cartilage cells die at a faster pace because of the constant abrasive friction in the dehydrated joint. These cells need to be replaced. When there is damage to the cartilage because of its overuse and under-repair, the sensors in the area begin to indicate a desperate need for urgent reparations. Under such circumstances, an attempt is made to supply the water needed by the cartilage cells from the blood supply that feeds the capsule of the joint. This action only supplies some lubrication inside the joint, but is not effective in maintaining the rate of cartilage growth from its base to replace the dead tissue. In the lining of the joint capsule are cells that can secrete local hormones to stimulate repair activity at the same time as they begin to produce pain. Several things happen when these hormones are secreted:

1) the dying tissue broken up from inside the cells and the broken fragments are extruded. They are ingested by some white cells - the " garbage collectors " - and recycled.

2)more blood circulation is brought to the area, even if it has to come to the nearest sites in the fibrous capsule covering the joint. It is this swelling and stretch in the joint capsule that causes stiffness and eventually added pain.

3)There is an associated protein breakdown, and more amino acids are mobilized for the " pool " that may be needed for the repair of the damage.

4)In the inflammatory environment inside the joint, some white cells begin to manufacture hydrogen peroxide and ozone for two purposes: one, to keep the joint space sterilized and to prevent bacteria from infecting the joint cavity; two, to supply with adequate oxygen the cells that are engaged in the repair process and which, because of their local isolation and the stagnant nature of the inflammatory exudates, have less access to the blood oxygen.

5)There is a local " remodeling growth factor " that promotes the growth of tissue along the line of greater force.

6)Knowledge gained from its ongoing experience by the brain is put to use for the rest of the body. The remodeling and " fortification " of other similarly structured joints will also be carried out. This seems to be the reason rheumatoid joints of the hands show a mirror-image inflammation and eventual deviation of the actual joints on both sides.

BACK PAIN

In the spinal column, the weight of the body is supported by 23 discs and 24 vertebrae. The discs are housed between plates of cartilage that cover opposing flat surfaces of the vertebrae. The end-plate cartilage attached to its flat weight-bearing surfaces is part of the structure of each vertebra. During the movement of each vertebra, the disc is meant to glide slightly between the end-plate cartilage locatd on its upper and lower surfaces.

75% of the weight of the upper body mass is supported by the hydraulic properties of the discs that absorb and hold water in their central cores. In a dehydrated state, when the body mass constantly squeezes out the water content of the discs during movement and bending, not enough of the water can be replaced. The dehydrated discs with their shrunken cores gradually become less supportive of the weight of the body. The discs lose their wedge quality, and the spinal joints become less firm.

In a well-hydrated and taut state, the discs themselves do not physically move, but get continuously squeezed of water and then through force of vacuum absorb it again and expand to function as the natural shock absorbers that they are.

In a dehydrated state, the discs can shift backward and press on the local nerves. When this happens in the lower spinal region, the pain becomes projected into one of the legs. This is called sciatic pain and is far more serious than local pain in the back. It means the spinal joint structure has become so disorganized that one of the discs that has to shock-absorb for the spine is now out of its normal position and is pressing on the nerve. Dehydration and bad posture are involved in the production of this condition.

With extreme and prolonged dehydration, the disc substance and its padding quality is drastically reduced until the vertebrae begin to touch one another at their facet joints. These are only there to steady the movement of the vertebrae when they twist and turn. They are not supposed to become weight-bearing in the same way as the flat parts of the vertebrae. When, as a result of the loss of supportive padding of the discs, the fact joints do become weight-bearing, true and devastating back pains begin.

OSTEOARTHRITISWhen the cartilage in the joint dies, bone-to-bone contact results. Whereas cartilage cells have a water-given resilience and survive the trauma of moving against each other, the hardened bonesurfaces produce a friction force against one another. This produces an inflammatory process that destroys the bone surfaces. Thus, osteoarthritis is established - a second-stage process to the dehydration that first destroyed the cartilage surfaces.

THE SIMPLEST PREVENTION AND CURE OF THEM ALLThe Body needs at least two quarts of water daily. It must be plain water, not caffeine-containing fluids or alcoholic beverages that further dehydrate the body. Water should be taken at regular intervals. Its intake should become a habit. One cannot rely on the thirst perception to recognize the urgency to drink water. As we grow older, we lose our thirst perception, and fail to recognize that we are thirsty. We also need to take 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. of salt a day. Frequent cramps to the leg muscles should be taken to mean a salt shortage in the body.

(MY NOTE: WE USE " Orsa Salt " .... - not regular 'bleached' white salt ... wendy)

THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY: F. BATMANGHELIDJ, M.D. - the author of 'HOW TO DEAL WITH BACK PAIN AND RHEUMATOID JOINT PAIN' published by Global Health Solutions, Ind. P.O. Box 3189, Falls Church, VA. 22043. Tel -1-800-759-3999..... Internet: www.watercure.com

Re: waterIn a message dated 3/25/01 7:28:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, moriam@... writes:

Dear , Yes, drinking 8 cups of water a day is important, whether or not one is cleansing. It is a basic health thing. (It is not necessarily something to do " between cleanses " . It is something to do for one's whole life.) (I think 8 cups is for a 125 pound person--- add another cup for every 25 pounds over that-- or something like that.) Hi Moria and , I am finding this discussion very interesting and would like to add my 2 cents. I read in " The Bodies Many Cries for Water " that you should drink half your body weight in ounces every 24 hours. When I started really watching that I drank this amount my chronic lower back pain got considerably better. Namaste, HerbalMomma Subscription email: mailto:bowel cleanse-subscribeegroups

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I sent this to the bowel cleanse group - but I think it is so valuable and good - i wanted to re-send it to this group....

" this is interesting you write this regarding back pain and water. I have saved many articles on this issue and this one is one of my favorites: This is written by a prominent back doc... :

" ...In the chronically painful joint conditions of the lower spine or joints of the hands and legs, the actual chronic and recurring pain itself is a signal of water deficiency in the area where pain is felt. The pain occurs because there is not enough water circulation to wash out the local acidity and the toxic substances. These regional joint pains are part of a series of newly understood crisis thirst signals of the body. Where the pain is felt depends on where the localized drought has settled in. Low back pain has two components: one, muscle spasm (this is the cause of 80% of back pain); two, disc degeneration that puts added strain on the tendons and ligaments in the spinal column. Both components are initiated by the onset of chronic dehydration.

All joint surfaces possess cartilage padding which covers and separates the joints' bone structures. This firm layer of cartilage contains a vast quantity of water which provides it with the ability to glide over the opposing cartilage surface and facilitates the necessary lubrication for the joint movements, thus prolonged dhydration that leaves the cartilage short of water will produce a greater friction and shearing stress at the cartilage contact points in the joint. In the process of shunting more circulation to the joint for its repair process, pain is produced. This pain is an indicator of local dehydration and inability of the joint to cope with the extra demands for its movement.

When cartilage is dehydrated, its gliding ability is decreased. The cartilage cells sense their dehydration and give out alarm signals of pain because they would soon die and peel off from their contact surfaces if used in their dehydrated state. The environment of cartilage is ALKALINE. In dehydration it becomes ACID. This acidity sensitizes the nerve endings that register pain.

Blood is made in the bone marrow. The actively growing blood cells in the marrow take priority over cartilage for the available water that goes through the bone structure. The blood and serum circulation to the cartilage is from its base and through its connection to the bone. The serum that reaches the cartilage brings with it the raw material needed to replace the layer that wears off as a result of the friction and shearing stress with its opposite cartilage contact points. When pain occurs in symmetrical joints, it indicates that the brain assesses the strain to be equal for all joints and assumes these jionts are not fully prepared to endure a particular level of pressure until one or all of them are fully hydrated. This type of pain has to be treated with a regular increase in water intake until the cartilage is fully hydrated and washed of its acidity and toxins. Often the pain travels from joint to joint; sometimes it appears in the corresponding joints in the other limb at the same time. Chronic pains have two components: Local nervous-system and brain-generated pains. Locally initiated pain is relieved by analgesics, but brain-level pain is not. Both pains are relieved by the intake of adequate water.

Cartilage is a gelatinous living tissue; its cells like to live in an ALKALINE environment. The alkalinity of the environment depends on the amount of water that flows through the cartilage to wash the acid away. Salt helps to extract the acidity from the inside of the cartilage cells and pass it into the water that carries the acid away. This is a constant process. For the process to be effective, two elements are vital: water and salt. Adequate salt supply is essential for the prevention of arthritis pain, be it in the joints of the limbs or the spine. It is the salt level in the serum that increases its fluid volume for more abundant flow through the cartilage.

WHAT HAPPENS TO A DEHYDRATED JOINT?

Cartilage cells die at a faster pace because of the constant abrasive friction in the dehydrated joint. These cells need to be replaced. When there is damage to the cartilage because of its overuse and under-repair, the sensors in the area begin to indicate a desperate need for urgent reparations. Under such circumstances, an attempt is made to supply the water needed by the cartilage cells from the blood supply that feeds the capsule of the joint. This action only supplies some lubrication inside the joint, but is not effective in maintaining the rate of cartilage growth from its base to replace the dead tissue. In the lining of the joint capsule are cells that can secrete local hormones to stimulate repair activity at the same time as they begin to produce pain. Several things happen when these hormones are secreted:

1) the dying tissue broken up from inside the cells and the broken fragments are extruded. They are ingested by some white cells - the " garbage collectors " - and recycled.

2)more blood circulation is brought to the area, even if it has to come to the nearest sites in the fibrous capsule covering the joint. It is this swelling and stretch in the joint capsule that causes stiffness and eventually added pain.

3)There is an associated protein breakdown, and more amino acids are mobilized for the " pool " that may be needed for the repair of the damage.

4)In the inflammatory environment inside the joint, some white cells begin to manufacture hydrogen peroxide and ozone for two purposes: one, to keep the joint space sterilized and to prevent bacteria from infecting the joint cavity; two, to supply with adequate oxygen the cells that are engaged in the repair process and which, because of their local isolation and the stagnant nature of the inflammatory exudates, have less access to the blood oxygen.

5)There is a local " remodeling growth factor " that promotes the growth of tissue along the line of greater force.

6)Knowledge gained from its ongoing experience by the brain is put to use for the rest of the body. The remodeling and " fortification " of other similarly structured joints will also be carried out. This seems to be the reason rheumatoid joints of the hands show a mirror-image inflammation and eventual deviation of the actual joints on both sides.

BACK PAIN

In the spinal column, the weight of the body is supported by 23 discs and 24 vertebrae. The discs are housed between plates of cartilage that cover opposing flat surfaces of the vertebrae. The end-plate cartilage attached to its flat weight-bearing surfaces is part of the structure of each vertebra. During the movement of each vertebra, the disc is meant to glide slightly between the end-plate cartilage locatd on its upper and lower surfaces.

75% of the weight of the upper body mass is supported by the hydraulic properties of the discs that absorb and hold water in their central cores. In a dehydrated state, when the body mass constantly squeezes out the water content of the discs during movement and bending, not enough of the water can be replaced. The dehydrated discs with their shrunken cores gradually become less supportive of the weight of the body. The discs lose their wedge quality, and the spinal joints become less firm.

In a well-hydrated and taut state, the discs themselves do not physically move, but get continuously squeezed of water and then through force of vacuum absorb it again and expand to function as the natural shock absorbers that they are.

In a dehydrated state, the discs can shift backward and press on the local nerves. When this happens in the lower spinal region, the pain becomes projected into one of the legs. This is called sciatic pain and is far more serious than local pain in the back. It means the spinal joint structure has become so disorganized that one of the discs that has to shock-absorb for the spine is now out of its normal position and is pressing on the nerve. Dehydration and bad posture are involved in the production of this condition.

With extreme and prolonged dehydration, the disc substance and its padding quality is drastically reduced until the vertebrae begin to touch one another at their facet joints. These are only there to steady the movement of the vertebrae when they twist and turn. They are not supposed to become weight-bearing in the same way as the flat parts of the vertebrae. When, as a result of the loss of supportive padding of the discs, the fact joints do become weight-bearing, true and devastating back pains begin.

OSTEOARTHRITISWhen the cartilage in the joint dies, bone-to-bone contact results. Whereas cartilage cells have a water-given resilience and survive the trauma of moving against each other, the hardened bonesurfaces produce a friction force against one another. This produces an inflammatory process that destroys the bone surfaces. Thus, osteoarthritis is established - a second-stage process to the dehydration that first destroyed the cartilage surfaces.

THE SIMPLEST PREVENTION AND CURE OF THEM ALLThe Body needs at least two quarts of water daily. It must be plain water, not caffeine-containing fluids or alcoholic beverages that further dehydrate the body. Water should be taken at regular intervals. Its intake should become a habit. One cannot rely on the thirst perception to recognize the urgency to drink water. As we grow older, we lose our thirst perception, and fail to recognize that we are thirsty. We also need to take 1/4 to 1/2 tsp. of salt a day. Frequent cramps to the leg muscles should be taken to mean a salt shortage in the body.

(MY NOTE: WE USE " Orsa Salt " .... - not regular 'bleached' white salt ... wendy)

THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY: F. BATMANGHELIDJ, M.D. - the author of 'HOW TO DEAL WITH BACK PAIN AND RHEUMATOID JOINT PAIN' published by Global Health Solutions, Ind. P.O. Box 3189, Falls Church, VA. 22043. Tel -1-800-759-3999..... Internet: www.watercure.com

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In a message dated 3/25/01 7:28:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, moriam@... writes:

Dear ,

Yes, drinking 8 cups of water a day is important, whether or

not one is cleansing. It is a basic health thing. (It is not

necessarily something to do "between cleanses". It is something

to do for one's whole life.) (I think 8

cups is for a 125 pound person--- add another cup for every

25 pounds over that-- or something like that.)

Hi Moria and ,

I am finding this discussion very interesting and would like to add my 2 cents.

I read in "The Bodies Many Cries for Water" that you should drink half your body weight in ounces every 24 hours. When I started really watching that I drank this amount my chronic lower back pain got considerably better.

Namaste,

HerbalMomma

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see watercure.com

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In a message dated 07/11/2001 11:57:44 AM Central Daylight Time, MENJ@... writes:

I have 2 problems with water:

1. Sometimes, I get some slight pain in my stomach after drinking water.

It eventually subsides. This does not happen if I drink other liquids (e.g., milk, juice).

2. It is difficult for me to drink more than a glass of water each day. If I try to drink several glasses of water, I feel like I am on the edge of getting a headache. (I do not have high blood pressure.)

Does anyone else experience this? Any ideas? Thanks.

Is this tap water or bottled or both? If tap, then discontinue.....if bottled, switch to another kind. Many bottled waters are no better than what you might get out of your own faucet. Its quite possible that there is something in your water that is affecting you. The best water is through your own filter, such as a reverse osmosis machine,stored in a #5+ bottle or a glass bottle. Personally, I like SmartWater....its distilled water, but with the electrolytes added back, because distilled water alone is not good for you. I find it to be the purest tasting water available for purchase.

annette

annette

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Marabel,

Thanks for the wonderful water info. I have read a little about water, but a lot of what u said was new to me. To add to the topic, I avoid cold water and prefer to drink it at room temperature as I have many mercury fillings and cold water tends to make the mercury come alive....in other words it kinda like activates it to come out of the fillings.

Also, I read that alkaline water is better for you than acidic water. My naturopath sells a water ionizer (which is used to make alkaline water).

Because this ionizer was so much more expensive than regular water filtration systems, I decided to read up on it. Had to first justify the cost. Anyway, here is the website of the author whose book I found to be rather enlightening: http://www.betterwayhealth.com/reverse-aging-book.asp

It seems that alkaline water is age-reversing. By the time I buy everything that is gonna make me live forever, I will have amassed quite a fortune in debt, and will wonder why I chose to live so long! lol

Annette

Hi Everyone,

I've learned so much about water since I started reading health books! And so I'll share some of it with you.

1) Very hot water is good for you because it cleanses you. In Ayurveda,

taking a tablespoon of hot water every half hour or so is recommended,

for the "digestion of ama." Ama is the word for toxic waste that has

accumulated in the body. Candidiasis is defined in Ayurvedic terms as a

conditon where there's an excess of ama. So, my fellow candidates, drink that hot water! I just boil water in the morning and keep it in a

thermos all day, to keep it handy. I also have a recipe for a soup

called "Ama Reducing Dal" if anyone's interested. It's got lots of

ginger and spices in it...you are supposed to take it as a meal, and it

really fights candida. I must say that every time I eat the stuff for

dinner I feel very inspired, like pouring my brains out on paper, like

I'm having a catharsis. But I've only tried it twice, because I'm very

thin, and soup for dinner doesn't sustain me too well.

2) Drinking immediately after meals, or with meals, is an absolute

no-no. Many, if not all of you, already know this, I'm sure. Water

dilutes your digestive juices so it's harder to digest your food. Some

books recommend drinking no sooner than 30 minutes before a meal, and to

wait at least an hour after eating. I find that if I eat something very

difficult to digest, or very concentrated, like a pancake, then I need to

wait even longer, because my stomach acid is low to begin with. If I

have just fruit and vegetables, then I can drink sooner.

3) I have learned that water IS acidic by nature. I also read that

there are things you can do to compensate for this "drawback" like adding

a bit of fresh lemon (which not only alkalinizes the water but also works

as an anti-bacterial), or adding some ground-up coral reef to it (as one

advertisement suggests- but I'd rather not eat "coral reef"...how about

you?)

4) There is a website called "Hydrate for Health" ( I don't know the

exact website name but if you type "hydrate for health" into a search

engine you should find it). The author of the page maintains that

water's quality is not really a matter of its level of pollution, but a

matter of the structural integrity of the water's molecules. You see,

the molecules of perfect water, such as we might find at the bottom of a

prehistoric glacier in the arctic circle (in other words, such as we'll

never find), looks like a beautiful, fuzzy, soft snowflake. There is a

product that mimics this water, its molecules are snowflake-shaped and

nice, but this product costs an arm and a leg. And I just can't for the

life of me remember what its called. (Candida brain fog strikes again!) Oh well. ANYWAY...the author of Hydrate for Health insists that this

water, which is molecularly appropriate, is real water. Also, real water

is found in fruits and vegetables, so juice from these will provide you

with real water. Gravity purifies water, so much of what we find at the

bottom of Niagra Falls is real water. Rain water put through a simple

carbon filter is also "almost real." And if you turn filtered tap water

into ice cubes and melt the ice cubes, you get almost real water. Notice

how water from ice cubes tastes different than regular water? It's

because freezing has straightened the molecules into a more biologically

adaptable state. You see, real water is fit for direct assimilation in

the body. It REALLY quenches your body's deep down thirst. Non-real

water, like polluted water, and especially distilled water (whose

molecules look like microchips, no kidding....but don't worry I still

drink it and I'm not dead yet) THIS kind of non-real water must first be

converted within the body to real water before it can be used for bodily

functions. So there's an extra step required. And as we all know,

sometimes things go haywire within the body, so conversion isn't 100%

successful, and our bodies may go thirsty. Moral of this long story is,

to drink your vegetable juice and melted ice cubes (just wait until they

are at least room temperature), if you can.

Also, the Hydrate for Health guy is very personable, we had an ongoing

dialogue for a while- and boy, is he SMART.

He talks about levetating frogs by using the magnetic properties of

water-- or something like that. He also gave me a number of experiments

to try like freezing a sliced up cucumber then putting it in the blender-

to show how "real water" behaves- but I haven't done this yet! If anyone

does it, please tell me what happens. It's supposed to be something

really surprising.

5) Regardless of the limitations and "drawbacks" of regular water, it's

vital to have ENOUGH of it. Dr. Bernard Jensen, of colema-board fame,

recommends drinking three glasses of water before breakfast. Warm or hot

water goes directly into the bowel, where it stimulates elimination, but

cold water is delayed in the stomach. And the watercure website that

someone (I'm sorry I forget who it was) posted, should explain the rest!

Cheers!

Marabel

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Hi Everyone,

I've learned so much about water since I started reading health books!

And so I'll share some of it with you.

1) Very hot water is good for you because it cleanses you. In Ayurveda,

taking a tablespoon of hot water every half hour or so is recommended,

for the " digestion of ama. " Ama is the word for toxic waste that has

accumulated in the body. Candidiasis is defined in Ayurvedic terms as a

conditon where there's an excess of ama. So, my fellow candidates,

drink that hot water! I just boil water in the morning and keep it in a

thermos all day, to keep it handy. I also have a recipe for a soup

called " Ama Reducing Dal " if anyone's interested. It's got lots of

ginger and spices in it...you are supposed to take it as a meal, and it

really fights candida. I must say that every time I eat the stuff for

dinner I feel very inspired, like pouring my brains out on paper, like

I'm having a catharsis. But I've only tried it twice, because I'm very

thin, and soup for dinner doesn't sustain me too well.

2) Drinking immediately after meals, or with meals, is an absolute

no-no. Many, if not all of you, already know this, I'm sure. Water

dilutes your digestive juices so it's harder to digest your food. Some

books recommend drinking no sooner than 30 minutes before a meal, and to

wait at least an hour after eating. I find that if I eat something very

difficult to digest, or very concentrated, like a pancake, then I need to

wait even longer, because my stomach acid is low to begin with. If I

have just fruit and vegetables, then I can drink sooner.

3) I have learned that water IS acidic by nature. I also read that

there are things you can do to compensate for this " drawback " like adding

a bit of fresh lemon (which not only alkalinizes the water but also works

as an anti-bacterial), or adding some ground-up coral reef to it (as one

advertisement suggests- but I'd rather not eat " coral reef " ...how about

you?)

4) There is a website called " Hydrate for Health " ( I don't know the

exact website name but if you type " hydrate for health " into a search

engine you should find it). The author of the page maintains that

water's quality is not really a matter of its level of pollution, but a

matter of the structural integrity of the water's molecules. You see,

the molecules of perfect water, such as we might find at the bottom of a

prehistoric glacier in the arctic circle (in other words, such as we'll

never find), looks like a beautiful, fuzzy, soft snowflake. There is a

product that mimics this water, its molecules are snowflake-shaped and

nice, but this product costs an arm and a leg. And I just can't for the

life of me remember what its called. (Candida brain fog strikes again!)

Oh well. ANYWAY...the author of Hydrate for Health insists that this

water, which is molecularly appropriate, is real water. Also, real water

is found in fruits and vegetables, so juice from these will provide you

with real water. Gravity purifies water, so much of what we find at the

bottom of Niagra Falls is real water. Rain water put through a simple

carbon filter is also " almost real. " And if you turn filtered tap water

into ice cubes and melt the ice cubes, you get almost real water. Notice

how water from ice cubes tastes different than regular water? It's

because freezing has straightened the molecules into a more biologically

adaptable state. You see, real water is fit for direct assimilation in

the body. It REALLY quenches your body's deep down thirst. Non-real

water, like polluted water, and especially distilled water (whose

molecules look like microchips, no kidding....but don't worry I still

drink it and I'm not dead yet) THIS kind of non-real water must first be

converted within the body to real water before it can be used for bodily

functions. So there's an extra step required. And as we all know,

sometimes things go haywire within the body, so conversion isn't 100%

successful, and our bodies may go thirsty. Moral of this long story is,

to drink your vegetable juice and melted ice cubes (just wait until they

are at least room temperature), if you can.

Also, the Hydrate for Health guy is very personable, we had an ongoing

dialogue for a while- and boy, is he SMART.

He talks about levetating frogs by using the magnetic properties of

water-- or something like that. He also gave me a number of experiments

to try like freezing a sliced up cucumber then putting it in the blender-

to show how " real water " behaves- but I haven't done this yet! If anyone

does it, please tell me what happens. It's supposed to be something

really surprising.

5) Regardless of the limitations and " drawbacks " of regular water, it's

vital to have ENOUGH of it. Dr. Bernard Jensen, of colema-board fame,

recommends drinking three glasses of water before breakfast. Warm or hot

water goes directly into the bowel, where it stimulates elimination, but

cold water is delayed in the stomach. And the watercure website that

someone (I'm sorry I forget who it was) posted, should explain the rest!

Cheers!

Marabel

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Hi

I'd love the recipe mentioned for Ama Reducing Dal... along with anything else you might have...

Thanks

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For us especially, one of the advantages of drinking a lot of water is that it reduces our chance of developing kidney stones, which we are prone to when we take Prednisone.

Harper

[Guest guest]

Where do you get Coral Calcium??? Appreciate any help.

Az

LoveYourLiver--y wrote:

Yes,

water is very important.I

drink a gallon of distilled water per day and add Coral Calcium to that

water before consumption. The

coral calcium is supposed to balance the pH levels to be more in tune with

your body. This also prevents leeching of good minerals from your body.

[ ] WATER

Something I forgot to mention in my posts and have not seen in

anyone

else's is the importance of WATER! Pure, non-treated water is

extremely important to our health. I drink at least 64 ounces per

day. 1/2 oz. per pound of body weight is recommended. Danny, I

don't

know anything about dhea. Maybe Claudine, one of the best researchers

I've come across, will have some info. Love. Karolyn

[Guest guest]

Yes, water is very important.

I drink a gallon of distilled water per day and add Coral Calcium to that water before consumption.

The coral calcium is supposed to balance the pH levels to be more in tune with your body. This also prevents leeching of good minerals from your body.

[ ] WATER

Something I forgot to mention in my posts and have not seen in anyone else's is the importance of WATER! Pure, non-treated water is extremely important to our health. I drink at least 64 ounces per day. 1/2 oz. per pound of body weight is recommended. Danny, I don't know anything about dhea. Maybe Claudine, one of the best researchers I've come across, will have some info. Love. Karolyn

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BIOLOGICAL TERRAIN

"Acceptance of the theory of contagion is contingent upon the germ theory of disease---that specific bacteria and "viruses" produce specific disease symptoms. This theory has been repeatedly demonstrated as incorrect in the scientific field, and was even admitted by Pasteur as incorrect. Nevertheless, the germ theory and the belief of contagion is difficult to overcome since almost everyones mind has similarly been "infected" by exploitive "health care" industries that have a vested interest in disease and suffering and in perpetuating such erroneous beliefs. Basically the populace believes what the medical establishment wants it to. These false theories maintain demand for drugs, medical and hospital practices, and they are the only ones that teach that health is recovered by administrating poisonous drugs. If germs play any role in the causation of disease, it is never a primary one but is always secondary to those causes that lower our resistance or impair health. (A.Baker, M.A.)

How You Rot & Rust

THE pH REGULATORY SYSTEM OF THE BODY

The pH balance of the human bloodstream is recognized by all medical physiology texts as one of the most important biochemical balances in all of human body chemistry.

pH is the acronym for "Potential Hydrogen". In definition, it is the degree of concentration of hydrogen ions in a substance or solution. It is measured on a logarithmic scale from 0 to 14. Higher numbers means a substance is more alkaline in nature and there is a greater potential for absorbing more hydrogen ions. Lower numbers indicate more acidity with less potential for absorbing hydrogen ions.

Our body pH is very important because pH controls the speed of our body's biochemical reactions. It does this by controlling the speed of enzyme activity as well as the speed that electricity moves through our body.

The higher (more alkaline) the pH of a substance or solution, the more electrical resistance that substance or solution holds. Therefore, electricity travels slower with higher pH.

All biochemical reactions and electrical (life) energy are under pH control.

If we say something has an acid pH, we are saying it is hot and fast. As an example, look at the battery of your car. It's an acid battery. On cold days you want it to be hot and ready, and you want your car to start fast.

Alkaline pH on the other hand, biochemically speaking, is slow and cool. Compare it to an alkaline battery in a flashlight. You want that battery to be cool, and to burn out slowly.

Here is an example of how pH can control. Look around you at society in general. Do you see people getting exhausted, burned out, and quick to anger? Do you see a rise in violence? In part it could be due to the fact that people today lean to an acid pH. As a society we are running hot and fast. How did we get there? We guzzle coffee for breakfast (acid), burgers for lunch (acid), wash it down with king size colas (acid), and have a pizza (acid) for dinner. In fact, with this scenario, you could easily correlate the rise of violence in our society with the increasing number of fast food restaurants on every corner. But I digress. However, this does lead me to the second part of the pH and digestive metabolic equation. pH is under the direct control of what we put into our mouths. Kind of makes sense doesn't it?

What we eat and drink will impact where our body's pH level falls, and our body's pH will control the activity of every metabolic function happening in our body.

pH is behind the body's electrical system and intracellular activity as well as the way our bodies utilize enzymes, minerals, and vitamins. That is why pH is one of the first things to be looked at if you are experiencing unbalance in your body in any way, shape, or form. And since our body's pH level is a direct result of what we eat and drink, anytime we are experiencing imbalance, we need to look at what we have historically been eating and drinking because this impacts our pH. It's a circle. You can't look at one without looking at the other.

What we eat and drink is directly tied to the functioning of our digestive system. From our mouth through our small intestines and through our colon, that system plays the most important part in our physical well being. This system, what we feed it, and how it impacts our pH, is the essential core that determines whether we have perfect health or not. It is really so simple.

Now you may be thinking that all of this makes perfect sense. It is so simple that you would think that modern medicine could look at it, put two and two together and simply attempt to bring people back into balance through the food that they eat.

Hippocrates said, "Let food be your medicine.

Let medicine be your food."

If it were only so simple. Modern medicine has gotten to where it is today in part through a scientific and philosophical debate that culminated in the 19th century. On one side of the debate was French microbiologist Antoine Bechamp. On the other side was French microbiologist Louis Pasteur. Bechamp and Pasteur strongly disagreed in their bacteriological theories. They argued heatedly about who was correct. It was...

The Argument that Changed the Course of Medicine.

Pasteur promoted a theory of disease that described non-changeable microbes as the primary cause of disease. This is the theory of monomorphism. This theory says that a microorganism is static and unchangeable. It is what it is. Disease is solely caused by microbes or bacteria that invade the body from the outside. (This is the germ theory.)

Bechamp held the view that microorganisms can go through different stages of development and they can evolve into various growth forms within their life cycle. This is the theory of pleomorphism. He discovered microbes in the blood which he called microzymas. These microbes would change shape as individuals became diseased, and for Bechamp, this was the cause of disease; hence disease comes from inside the body.

Another scientist of the day, Claude Bernard, entered into the argument and said that it was actually the "milieu" or the environment that is all important to the disease process. Microbes do change and evolve, but how they do so is a result of the environment (or terrain) to which they are exposed. Hence, for Bechamp, microbes, being pleomorphic, will change according to the environment to which they are exposed. Therefore, disease in the body, as a biological process, will develop and manifest dependent upon the state of the internal biological terrain. At the core of that terrain, is pH.

Both men acknowledged certain aspects of each other's research, but it Pasteur was the stronger, more flamboyant, and more vocal opponent when compared to the quiet Bechamp. Pasteur also came from wealth and had the right family connections. He went to great lengths to disprove Bechamp's view. Pasteur eventually managed to convince the scientific community that his view alone was correct. Bechamp felt that this diverted science down a deplorable road - a road that held only half the truth.

On his deathbed, Pasteur finally acknowledged Bechamp's work and said, "Bernard was correct: the microbe is nothing: the terrain is everything." It was a 180 degree turnaround. With his death imminently at hand, he as much as admitted that his germ theory had flaws. But his admission fell on deaf ears. It was far too late. It could not reverse the inertia of ideas that had already been accepted by mainstream science at that time. Allopathic (drug based) medicine was firmly entrenched on the road that was paved by Pasteur.

The result of that road is what you see today practiced as medicine. When a body is out of balance, doctors attempt to put it back into balance, first through drugs, then through surgery. The general effect is to remove the symptoms, not to deal with the ultimate cause of the ailment. Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here

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In a message dated 5/31/03 7:37:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

bowel cleanse writes:

> I get a gallon at wal*mart for 59 cents.

> Ice

>

You need to be careful of what kind of bottle/jug the water comes in. Many of

them leach plastic into the water. Glass is best, followed by clear plastic.

~Eireen

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much. I will be a little bit more particular on what container I

get my water in. Thanks alot.

Ice

> You need to be careful of what kind of bottle/jug the water comes in. Many

of

> them leach plastic into the water. Glass is best, followed by clear

plastic.

>

> ~Eireen

[Guest guest]

Someone other than Eireen said:

" Where can you get a water bottle that is inner-glass

and outer plastic? "

Eireen glass thermoses break. Get yourself a

stainless steel Nissan Thermos. But remember it is a

little pricely to loose repeatedly.

Umm, I didn't say this. What I was originally alluding to were the plastic

bottles you buy water in from a supermarket. In lieu of a good water filter (I

have a Multi-Pure), getting a glass jug and refilling it is best, followed by

clear plastic. (I often keep refilled bottles of water in Crystal Geyser or

Evian bottles.) I would steer clear of opaque plastic and any water purchased at

a store like 7-11, because the quality of the plastic is MUCH lower, and like

styrofoam, you will end up drinking it.

I often put a drop of essential oil, such as lemon or peppermint in my water.

It is mandatory to use a glass, because the oils, especially lemon, will

break down the plastic and leach petrochemicals into the water.

Cheeers,

~Eireen

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[Guest guest]

Tina,

yes, it is very debatable unfortunately. All I know is that since distilled

is pure h2O, minerals in our body attach to it and it leeches our body of

vitamins and minerals. Over time, this could be very harmful.

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From: " tina83862 " <tina83862@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: new food list to avoid, just found expanded

list on hypo only

Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 01:38:04 -0000

- one thing I am not is a water expert--but from what I have

read in the past-- all water takes out minerals and anything else it

can out of our body that is what water does--the deal with distilled

is it contains nothing to harm us to begin with--it does the same

thing all water does but it is not filled with chemicals, minerals or

unwanted pesticides that we don't know about. It's suppose to be pure

H20. Now whether that is better for us vs. mineral water that is

cleaned from the earth's surface, I don't know for sure. Having water

with zero minerals is that good?? I am sure this is very debatable--

but one thing I would like is water without the added pesticides and

chemicals!!

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Is this the treatment you've been using, Andy?

[ ] water

WAR WATER"Old-time Root Doctors have claimed that breaking a bottle of WAR WATER against the doorstep of an Enemy will bring Strife and Sorrow to the Enemy's Home. Sold as a Curio only." -- The Lucky Mojo Curio Co. catalogue <http://www.luckymojo.com/catalogue.html> War Water is basically a suspension of iron rust in water, with other ingredients added according to the desires of the manufacturer. Since the Roman god Mars was the god of war and his symbolic metal was iron, it seems pretty clear that War Water is a European contribution to hoodoo <http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html>. It may have originally been compounded as a blood tonic or strengthener of courage, but in the hands of African-American folk-magicians, it became a tool for laying tricks <http://www.luckymojo.com/layingtricks.html> against an enemy by means of hostile foot track magic <http://www.luckymojo.com/foottrack.html>, causing "poisoning through the feet" and making everyone in the household quarrel and fight one another. Additional ingredients included in War Water to make it stronger are magnetic sand <http://www.luckymojo.com/magneticsand.html> and a rusty nail or coffin nail. Spanish moss, an evil-looking twisty grey herb which rots away in the water quite nicely, provides the proper blackness to the red-ochre colour of the basic mix and imparts an appropriate "swamp water" scent when you break the bottle open. A few practitioners also include creosote in the bottle. (This is a toxic, carcinogenic substance and must be handled with gloves.) In regard to the use of rusty nails to strengthen War Water, my correspondent OmiJuba (omijuba@...) made some great suggestions, "You can add nails from specific locations: a hospital, to cause injury; a court house, to make someone lose a court case <http://www.luckymojo.com/courtcase.html>; a jail, to get someone arrested; the person's job site, to make them get fired; or a graveyard <http://www.luckymojo.com/gooferdust.html>, to ... well, you get the idea." War Water is always sold in glass bottles. To use it, you shake a bottle up and hurl it at the doorstep of your enemy, where it should break, leaving a rusty, dangerously sharp mess for him or her to step in <http://www.luckymojo.com/foottrack.html>. When i was a young woman coming up in the East Bay in the 1960s, War Water was used by fractious root workers <http://www.luckymojo.com/hoodoo.html> to declare occult war on each other. Since these folks were already at odds to the extent that they could not simply walk into each other's yards and smash the glass bottle on the doorstep, they would make "drive by" attacks, rumbling through the residential streets of Oakland in the midnight hour and tossing bottles of War Water into the yards of their enemies, like occult Molotov cocktails. Ah, those were the days ... The opposite of War Water is, of course, Peace Water <http://www.luckymojo.com/peacewater.html>, which is used to soothe a home and ensure that only good sirits and friendly people enter.

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> Could I be drinking too much water? I have about 70 oz a day and I

> weigh 124.

==>You should be okay drinking that much water, but water can only

get into the body's cell if you consume enough " good " saturated

fats. See the article in our Links on Dry Skin.

==>You also need the minerals along with it which are contained in a

good ocean sea salt like Celtic. Use 1/4 tsp. and the juice of 1/2

lemon in 6 ounces of water 6 times a day (3 with meals to aid

digestion).

==>Does Candida act up more when I am on my period?

==>Yes, it could.

> How much Stevia can I use. I used two to three packets for Sunday

and Monday. Could that have caused the bloating I am experiencing.

==>Stevia should be used in moderation or it could cause problems.

> Thanks a ton, Bee!

==>You are so welcome !

Luv, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> Does carbonated water count toward your daily intake of water?

==>Yes, it would, but it is better to obtain water with minerals as in

the electrolyte drink with sea salt and lemon juice. Too much water

can be harmful if you are not getting enough minerals, i.e. ocean sea

salt and water can only be used by the body's cells if you have enough

good saturated fats as well.

Bee

>

[Guest guest]

Sure thing! I LOVE seltzer water. I understand some people have problems

with it but I never did.

Watch it, though, and read the bottles carefully. Some brands, like

Canfield's, Schweppes, La Croix, Perrier are pure carbonated water with

perhaps some fruit essences. My favorite is Canfield's, but it seems to be

only available in the Chicago area. But there are other brands like

President's Choice that have all sorts of garbage added, like aspartame.

Zack

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, shelleypaul1 wrote:

> Does carbonated water count toward your daily intake of water?

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am still having problems ingesting the amounts of lemon/sea salt water

recommended on the diet since I cannot stand the taste of the lemon & salt

together in a drink.

So I've trying to drink the lemon in water with stevia & take the salt

separately. Now I'm able to drink the lemon water w/o stevia in it separte

from the salt. But I can't eat 1/4 tsp salt by itself 6x a day. I don't know

how to get around this problem.

Caroline

From: " Bee Wilder "

>>...obtain water with minerals as in the electrolyte drink with sea salt

>>and lemon juice. Too much water can be harmful if you are not getting

>>enough minerals, i.e. ocean sea salt and water can only be used by the

>>body's cells if you have enough good saturated fats as well.