Water

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/2/2005 9:53:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

bluesky@... writes:

I'm not sure what the source on this is, but I have heard that carbonation

makes the body more acidic, when it's better to be going for a more alkaline

ha ! I Feel as though I should be treated with pool chemicals ! Good Grief !

[Guest guest]

I dont really have a problem with drinking water--though I should drink more...I

do have a question though.

, if you need to set me straight, feel free--there is bound to be

something " wrong " with it if it makes it more fun to drink....LOL!....but is it

okay to drink the sparkling waters like Perrier with lime or lemon ...100% water

with zero calories...but it is carbonated.

Does the carbonation make it no longer " good " ???

Thanks,

Dawn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/2/2005 2:11:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

millie_miller@... writes:

How about Yogurt.

trust me Millie ..hes gonna say its got sugar ...forget it and drink your

WATER !!!!! hahaha !!! Kat ;-) and ...have a nice day too !

[Guest guest]

Dawn Irons wrote:

> .but is it okay to drink the sparkling waters like Perrier with lime or lemon

> ...100% water with zero calories...but it is carbonated.

>

> Does the carbonation make it no longer " good " ???

Dawn,

I'm not sure what the source on this is, but I have heard that carbonation

makes the body more acidic, when it's better to be going for a more alkaline

state. That's about all I know. Someone here may have some reliable source

information on that. Or even a reliable source refuting it! lol

Deanna

[Guest guest]

Just for fun. How about Yogurt. Isn't it made from dairy. Isn't dairy a

Lactose one of the many sugars. Just stirring it up.

Millie

Dawn Irons <gratefulwife2brad@...> wrote:

I dont really have a problem with drinking water--though I should drink

more...I do have a question though.

, if you need to set me straight, feel free--there is bound to be

something " wrong " with it if it makes it more fun to drink....LOL!....but is it

okay to drink the sparkling waters like Perrier with lime or lemon ...100% water

with zero calories...but it is carbonated.

Does the carbonation make it no longer " good " ???

Thanks,

Dawn

[Guest guest]

>

> I dont really have a problem with drinking water--though I should

drink more...I do have a question though.

>

> , if you need to set me straight, feel free--there is bound

to be something " wrong " with it if it makes it more fun to

drink....LOL!....but is it okay to drink the sparkling waters like

Perrier with lime or lemon ...100% water with zero calories...but it

is carbonated.

>

> Does the carbonation make it no longer " good " ???

>

> Thanks,

> Dawn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/2/2005 7:53:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

millie_miller@... writes:

Good grief liquid is liquid is liquid. Give us a break. If it is coffee,

tea, soda it counts as liquid. Don't you think. I ran out of bottled water

and our water has so much chlorine I can hardly stand to drink it. I have to

hold my nose.

Now here is a girl after my own heart !!! hahaha ! Good post Millie ..but

its not true .....as much as I hate it ...its GOTTA BE WATER ! and like yours

...mine is really yukky ! I am going to get my machine and bottled water back

on delivery ...at least it tastes better ...its a small price to pay for good

health I guess ...>>>>>>>>>>goodbye cherry pepsi ...i love you

!!!>>>>>>>>>>>>>hello smelly water ...gag me >>>>>>>>>> hahahahaha ! if I can

do it Millie

so can YOU ! Kat

[Guest guest]

Doesn't it seem to you the most Intelligent, brilliant, active people are the

ones who get this disease. If we weren't so close to animals and the outdoors

we would not have the problem. Just kidding.

Somebody posted about taking your clothes off outside. I was thinking it

would be my luck my dog, if I had one, or cat, if I had one, would curl up on

the clothes and bring the dang tick in anyway.

Good grief liquid is liquid is liquid. Give us a break. If it is coffee,

tea, soda it counts as liquid. Don't you think. I ran out of bottled water and

our water has so much chlorine I can hardly stand to drink it. I have to hold

my nose.

I've got to get out of this very small apartment before I hurt myself. Just

kidding. I have so many projects started I'm tripping over them.

I took a shower and when I got back the DVD I was watching. Jane Eyre.

Excellent movie. Great love story. I lost the dang DVD. I have turned my

apartment upside down. Havn't a clue. Even moved the mattress, a Cal-King to

see if I dropped it behind there. Nowhere.

This is all said with a smile on my face.

<betneal@...> wrote:

>

> I dont really have a problem with drinking water--though I should

drink more...I do have a question though.

>

> , if you need to set me straight, feel free--there is bound

to be something " wrong " with it if it makes it more fun to

drink....LOL!....but is it okay to drink the sparkling waters like

Perrier with lime or lemon ...100% water with zero calories...but it

is carbonated.

>

> Does the carbonation make it no longer " good " ???

>

> Thanks,

> Dawn

>

>

I know this was addressed to , but I would like to say that my

LLMD said pure water best. Carbonated ok, but not to be used as a

water supplement.

>

[Guest guest]

I have got to go get some bottled water. I hate my facet water I just know they

are putting something in it . Who is they? Darned if I know but It just tastes

so awful. It is like sewer water.

KATL1957@... wrote:

In a message dated 12/2/2005 2:11:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

millie_miller@... writes:

How about Yogurt.

trust me Millie ..hes gonna say its got sugar ...forget it and drink your

WATER !!!!! hahaha !!! Kat ;-) and ...have a nice day too !

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/3/2005 8:29:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

@... writes:

In my opinion you have to look at the benefit vs. the negative

So you agree Mr McGillycuddy that it ok for me to have an occasional

WATERMELON !!! YES !!!! Thanks ! Kat ;-)

[Guest guest]

Team,

It all comes down to a trade offs. As Dr. Burrascano recommends

eating apples because of there fiber benefit. He knows full well of

the sugars but in that case the good that the fiber does out weighs

the negative of having a little extra suger.

In my opinion you have to look at the benefit vs. the negative in

these decision. I think that a good vitamin fortified bottled water

is best. Bottled water with Lemon is good as well. Plain bottled

water is very good. If you can't drink that then as a secondary

possibility carbinated water is better then soda...

Be well,

> I dont really have a problem with drinking water--though I

should drink more...I do have a question though.

>

> , if you need to set me straight, feel free--there is bound

to be something " wrong " with it if it makes it more fun to

drink....LOL!....but is it okay to drink the sparkling waters like

Perrier with lime or lemon ...100% water with zero calories...but it

is carbonated.

>

> Does the carbonation make it no longer " good " ???

>

> Thanks,

> Dawn

>

[Guest guest]

> > I dont really have a problem with drinking water--though I

> should drink more...I do have a question though.

> >

> > , if you need to set me straight, feel free--there is bound

> to be something " wrong " with it if it makes it more fun to

> drink....LOL!....but is it okay to drink the sparkling waters like

> Perrier with lime or lemon ...100% water with zero calories...but it

> is carbonated.

> >

> > Does the carbonation make it no longer " good " ???

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Dawn

> >

>

In Burrascanos 2005 report, he suggests no fruit except grapefruit

because of the fiber.Lemon,lime and tomatoes are ok, but not apples.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In a message dated 12/3/2005 8:29:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> @M... writes:

>

> In my opinion you have to look at the benefit vs. the negative

>

>

> So you agree Mr McGillycuddy that it ok for me to have an occasional

> WATERMELON !!! YES !!!! Thanks ! Kat ;-)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 03:20 AM 12/4/2005 +0000, you wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 12/3/2005 8:29:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > @M... writes:

> >

> > In my opinion you have to look at the benefit vs. the negative

> >

> >

> > So you agree Mr McGillycuddy that it ok for me to have an occasional

> > WATERMELON !!! YES !!!! Thanks ! Kat ;-)

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

--- <betneal@...> wrote:

> " and tomatoes are ok, "

I drink tomato juice (not V8). It may not be as

popular with people throughout the world as some of

the other juices but it has a lot of fibre and

vitamins.

I guess I got in the habit as a child. I was born in

the town where tomato juice was invented. Believe it

or not, in the 19th century people didn't eat tomatoes

because they thought they were poisonous.

From Health News in Brief " Tomato juice may aid type 2

diabetes patients " :

" The finding about tomato juice -- invented in 1917 at

a French Lick, Ind., resort when a chef ran out of

oranges for breakfast -- appears in a research letter

in Thursday's issue of the Journal of the American

Medical Association. "

http://newsmine.org/archive/nature-health/health/tomato-juice-may-stave-off-hear\

t-troubles.txt

Lyme Disease - read the latest news and personal stories http://lymeblog.com

[Guest guest]

> > " and tomatoes are ok, "

>

> I drink tomato juice (not V8). It may not be as

> popular with people throughout the world as some of

> the other juices but it has a lot of fibre and

> vitamins.

>

> I guess I got in the habit as a child. I was born in

> the town where tomato juice was invented. Believe it

> or not, in the 19th century people didn't eat tomatoes

> because they thought they were poisonous.

>

> From Health News in Brief " Tomato juice may aid type 2

> diabetes patients " :

> " The finding about tomato juice -- invented in 1917 at

> a French Lick, Ind., resort when a chef ran out of

> oranges for breakfast -- appears in a research letter

> in Thursday's issue of the Journal of the American

> Medical Association. "

>

http://newsmine.org/archive/nature-health/health/tomato-juice-may-stave-off-hear\

t-troubles.txt

>

>

>

> Lyme Disease - read the latest news and personal stories

http://lymeblog.com

>

Knudsen makes a delicious tomato veggie drink called Very Veggie. I

get the low sodium and pop cashews, almonds or any type of nut makes a

tasty, filling, and nutritious combo. Like Mac stated it has fiber and

vits!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/3/2005 10:17:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

betneal@... writes:

except grapefruit

Be careful if you take valium with grapefruit ..It says on the bottle not to

and in the paper in side that something about grapefruit juice changing the

effect of the valium ? Just passing it on ;-) Kat

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/3/2005 10:16:59 PM, betneal@... writes:

> If you can't drink that then as a secondary

>possibility carbonated water is better then soda...

>

>>

Just a quick note. I recently learned that carbonation is bad for anyone

with Fibromyalgia, in case anyone has that. Better off drinking uncoordinated

bottled water.

Sue

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/3/2005 10:16:59 PM, betneal@... writes:

>If you can't drink that then as a secondary

>possibility carbinated water is better then soda...

Sorry - Ooops! - my spell check screwed up. I meant uncarbonated bottled

water.

Sue

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/5/2005 4:58:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Robynn@... writes:

Personally, my doctor

said caffienated beverages wouldn't be harmful in any way. So check with

your doctor before making any determininations!!

I am going with Robynn doc on this one !!!! Thanks Robynn ! The way I see it

is liquid is liquid is liquid ...it all hydrates ;-) Kat

[Guest guest]

Two comments one for question, one for the site--

Coffee/Tea DONT count as liquid. The caffeine is a diuretic. This means ,for

every cup of caffeine you drink, you lose TWO cups of water i.e. it dries you

out not hydrates you.

2) This site erasing the initial questions is really a pain, Ive gone thru 3

pages of mail already TRYING to see WHAT the question initially was for topic

WATER, to no avail. Try leaving a snippet of the initial question if you want

shared responses, its like a darn chatroom trying to figure it out reading

answers ,not the topic.

One line wont kill your webspace, will it???

Millie <millie_miller@...> wrote:

Doesn't it seem to you the most Intelligent, brilliant, active people are the

ones who get this disease. If we weren't so close to animals and the outdoors

we would not have the problem. Just kidding.

Somebody posted about taking your clothes off outside. I was thinking it

would be my luck my dog, if I had one, or cat, if I had one, would curl up on

the clothes and bring the dang tick in anyway.

Good grief liquid is liquid is liquid. Give us a break. If it is coffee,

tea, soda it counts as liquid. Don't you think. I ran out of bottled water and

our water has so much chlorine I can hardly stand to drink it. I have to hold

my nose.

I've got to get out of this very small apartment before I hurt myself. Just

kidding. I have so many projects started I'm tripping over them.

I took a shower and when I got back the DVD I was watching. Jane Eyre.

Excellent movie. Great love story. I lost the dang DVD. I have turned my

apartment upside down. Havn't a clue. Even moved the mattress, a Cal-King to

see if I dropped it behind there. Nowhere.

This is all said with a smile on my face.

[Guest guest]

I think the most recent science has shown that the statements about diuretic

effects of caffeine have been exaggerated.

I've included a few links for folks to look through. Personally, my doctor

said caffienated beverages wouldn't be harmful in any way. So check with

your doctor before making any determininations!!

=)

Robynn

=====

http://www.ific.org/foodinsight/2001/ma/truthfi201.cfm

If the Truth be Told

Food Insight

March/April 2001

In this second article in a continuing series, Food Insight looks at a few

popular myths about food safety and nutrition and provides the facts from

the experts.

MYTH: Only water truly hydrates.

FACT: " It's true that only water is hydrating, " said Ann Grandjean, Ed.D.,

director of the International Center for Sports Nutrition. " That is, plain

water and the water in juice, milk, soft drinks, coffee, and other

beverages. " Dr. Grandjean works with Olympic and professional athletes, and

she noted that these competitors knew of the importance of proper hydration

long before the general population did. By the time that the Olympic Games

were held in Los Angeles in 1984, U.S. athletes had an advantage over the

athletes from other countries because most knew to stay well hydrated.

" Athletes understand the value of hydration, be it from water, fruit juice,

sports drinks, or cola. However, there is a gap between science and

communicating with the public. We've gone from talking about 'fluid intake'

to referring to hydration as 'water intake' when in actuality any fluid has

some hydrating properties, " said Dr. Grandjean.

There may even be some surprising news about the hydrating effects of

caffeine-containing beverages. Research published in the European Journal of

Epidemiology (15:181-188, 1999) estimated the diuretic effects of various

beverages. The study estimated that for every caffeinated beverage consumed,

urinary output is increased by 1.17 milliliters per milligram of caffeine.

In other words, a 12-ounce beverage containing 31 milligrams of caffeine

would result in the excretion of just 1 ounce more in the urine than would

normally occur. The bottom line of this study is that the dehydrating

effects of caffeine may have been overstated in the past. It is important to

note that the research calculations were done using a study conducted with

caffeine-na<ve individuals (i.e., those who do not consume caffeine or who

had abstained from consuming caffeine before the study). Urinary output

would be expected to be less in those who regularly consume caffeine.

Any beverage that has calories contains solids, so it is not 100 percent

water. Therefore, when considering the hydration properties of a beverage,

you must consider the solids in it, specifically the fats, carbohydrates and

proteins. As examples, the following beverages are more than 90 percent

water after the weight of the other dietary factors is removed: 1- percent

milk, regular cola, and ginger ale. Brewed coffee and diet soft drinks are

99 percent water. " Based on research, it appears that classifying

caffeinated beverages as dehydrating is overstated. What is more important

to remember is to consume an adequate volume of fluids from a variety of

beverages, " said Dr. Grandjean.

Keep in mind that the recommended eight glasses of any fluid a day is only

an estimation; for instance, active people most likely need more fluids. How

do you know if you are properly hydrated? The best test is the odor and

color of a person's urine. More fluid is needed if the urine is odorous or

has a dark color. The good news is that you can stay hydrated with a variety

of your favorite beverages.

=====

http://www.coffeescience.org/fitness/smartways.htm

.. Fuel up for fitness: It all starts with your diet.

· Don't skip breakfast. Your body has been sedentary for what has hopefully

been a good 6-8 hours of sleep. It needs food to wake up. I'd suggest a

light breakfast with a glass of juice and some coffee to kick start your

day. A number of studies have demonstrated the potential benefit of coffee

to enhance physical performance. The research shows coffee may be especially

useful for athletes who are engaged in endurance sports like running or

cycling. It may increase stamina, reduce fatigue and even reduce muscle

pain. For many, a cup or two of coffee a half-hour to an hour before a

workout, may do the trick. You also may be surprised to learn that coffee is

just as hydrating for the body as water.

· Water is essential. The human body is comprised mostly of water, therefore

it is essential that your body is properly hydrated especially before and

after your exercise program. Signs of improper hydration may include

cramping, dizziness or nausea.

=====

http://wwwcoffeescience.org/quiz.htm

Studies have shown that the incidence of colon cancer and type 2 diabetes

are lower among coffee drinkers. The beneficial action of coffee on these

and other diseases, such as Parkinson's, continues to spur legitimate

research in the medical community. Drinking coffee has been found to be as

hydrating as drinking water, and coffee has been shown to have the same

minimal diuretic effect as water.

=====

This link will open a PDF called " Nutritional benefits of drinks "

http://www.nursing-standard.co.uk/archives/ns/vol15-13/pdfs/p4752v15w13.pdf

" Caffeine acts as a diuretic, but as the levels in tea are generally low,

the

dehydrating effects are small and compensated for by the total amount of

fluid provided in the beverage. "

=====

Re: [ ] Water

Two comments one for question, one for the site--

Coffee/Tea DONT count as liquid. The caffeine is a diuretic. This means

,for every cup of caffeine you drink, you lose TWO cups of water i.e. it

dries you out not hydrates you.

[Guest guest]

Just be careful with how much of which kind of liquid. Soda pop ALL day

probably isn't a great idea for a variety of reasons. You may be hydrated,

but you'd also be drinking a lot of sugar. Then again, denying yourself a

glass of orange juice in the morning could start the day off on the wrong

taste buds - so to speak.

Use moderation and follow your doctor's advice! That will probably provide

the best balance between health and happiness.

=)

Robynn

Re: [ ] Water

I am going with Robynn doc on this one !!!! Thanks Robynn ! The way I see

it

is liquid is liquid is liquid ...it all hydrates ;-) Kat

In a message dated 12/5/2005 4:58:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Robynn@... writes:

Personally, my doctor

said caffienated beverages wouldn't be harmful in any way. So check with

your doctor before making any determininations!!

[Guest guest]

>

> I think the most recent science has shown that the statements about

diuretic

> effects of caffeine have been exaggerated.

>

> I've included a few links for folks to look through. Personally, my

doctor

> said caffienated beverages wouldn't be harmful in any way. So check

with

> your doctor before making any determininations!!

>

> =)

> Robynn

>

> =====

>

> http://www.ific.org/foodinsight/2001/ma/truthfi201.cfm

>

> If the Truth be Told

> Food Insight

> March/April 2001

>

> In this second article in a continuing series, Food Insight looks at

a few

> popular myths about food safety and nutrition and provides the facts

from

> the experts.

>

> MYTH: Only water truly hydrates.

>

> FACT: " It's true that only water is hydrating, " said Ann Grandjean,

Ed.D.,

> director of the International Center for Sports Nutrition. " That is,

plain

> water and the water in juice, milk, soft drinks, coffee, and other

> beverages. " Dr. Grandjean works with Olympic and professional

athletes, and

> she noted that these competitors knew of the importance of proper

hydration

> long before the general population did. By the time that the Olympic

Games

> were held in Los Angeles in 1984, U.S. athletes had an advantage

over the

> athletes from other countries because most knew to stay well hydrated.

> " Athletes understand the value of hydration, be it from water, fruit

juice,

> sports drinks, or cola. However, there is a gap between science and

> communicating with the public. We've gone from talking about 'fluid

intake'

> to referring to hydration as 'water intake' when in actuality any

fluid has

> some hydrating properties, " said Dr. Grandjean.

>

> There may even be some surprising news about the hydrating effects of

> caffeine-containing beverages. Research published in the European

Journal of

> Epidemiology (15:181-188, 1999) estimated the diuretic effects of

various

> beverages. The study estimated that for every caffeinated beverage

consumed,

> urinary output is increased by 1.17 milliliters per milligram of

caffeine.

> In other words, a 12-ounce beverage containing 31 milligrams of caffeine

> would result in the excretion of just 1 ounce more in the urine than

would

> normally occur. The bottom line of this study is that the dehydrating

> effects of caffeine may have been overstated in the past. It is

important to

> note that the research calculations were done using a study

conducted with

> caffeine-na<ve individuals (i.e., those who do not consume caffeine

or who

> had abstained from consuming caffeine before the study). Urinary output

> would be expected to be less in those who regularly consume caffeine.

>

> Any beverage that has calories contains solids, so it is not 100 percent

> water. Therefore, when considering the hydration properties of a

beverage,

> you must consider the solids in it, specifically the fats,

carbohydrates and

> proteins. As examples, the following beverages are more than 90 percent

> water after the weight of the other dietary factors is removed: 1-

percent

> milk, regular cola, and ginger ale. Brewed coffee and diet soft

drinks are

> 99 percent water. " Based on research, it appears that classifying

> caffeinated beverages as dehydrating is overstated. What is more

important

> to remember is to consume an adequate volume of fluids from a variety of

> beverages, " said Dr. Grandjean.

>

> Keep in mind that the recommended eight glasses of any fluid a day

is only

> an estimation; for instance, active people most likely need more

fluids. How

> do you know if you are properly hydrated? The best test is the odor and

> color of a person's urine. More fluid is needed if the urine is

odorous or

> has a dark color. The good news is that you can stay hydrated with a

variety

> of your favorite beverages.

>

>

> =====

>

> http://www.coffeescience.org/fitness/smartways.htm

>

> . Fuel up for fitness: It all starts with your diet.

>

> · Don't skip breakfast. Your body has been sedentary for what has

hopefully

> been a good 6-8 hours of sleep. It needs food to wake up. I'd suggest a

> light breakfast with a glass of juice and some coffee to kick start your

> day. A number of studies have demonstrated the potential benefit of

coffee

> to enhance physical performance. The research shows coffee may be

especially

> useful for athletes who are engaged in endurance sports like running or

> cycling. It may increase stamina, reduce fatigue and even reduce muscle

> pain. For many, a cup or two of coffee a half-hour to an hour before a

> workout, may do the trick. You also may be surprised to learn that

coffee is

> just as hydrating for the body as water.

>

> · Water is essential. The human body is comprised mostly of water,

therefore

> it is essential that your body is properly hydrated especially

before and

> after your exercise program. Signs of improper hydration may include

> cramping, dizziness or nausea.

>

> =====

>

> http://wwwcoffeescience.org/quiz.htm

>

> Studies have shown that the incidence of colon cancer and type 2

diabetes

> are lower among coffee drinkers. The beneficial action of coffee on

these

> and other diseases, such as Parkinson's, continues to spur legitimate

> research in the medical community. Drinking coffee has been found to

be as

> hydrating as drinking water, and coffee has been shown to have the same

> minimal diuretic effect as water.

>

> =====

>

> This link will open a PDF called " Nutritional benefits of drinks "

>

>

http://www.nursing-standard.co.uk/archives/ns/vol15-13/pdfs/p4752v15w13.pdf

>

> " Caffeine acts as a diuretic, but as the levels in tea are generally

low,

> the

> dehydrating effects are small and compensated for by the total amount of

> fluid provided in the beverage. "

>

> =====

>

> Re: [ ] Water

>

>

> Two comments one for question, one for the site--

> Coffee/Tea DONT count as liquid. The caffeine is a diuretic. This

means

> ,for every cup of caffeine you drink, you lose TWO cups of water i.e. it

> dries you out not hydrates you.

>

I find that when I have a cup of lightly caffinated tea, I feel a

little better. It allows the blood to flow better to my brain. Coffee

is ok, but too much of it can stress your body, not good for lymies. I

drink Yogi Green Tea Chai with a little milk or cream. Its real good

on a cold winter day.

[Guest guest]

>

>

> In a message dated 12/5/2005 4:58:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> Robynn@c... writes:

>

> Personally, my doctor

> said caffienated beverages wouldn't be harmful in any way. So

check with

> your doctor before making any determininations!!

>

>

>

>

> I am going with Robynn doc on this one !!!! Thanks Robynn ! The way

I see it

> is liquid is liquid is liquid ...it all hydrates ;-) Kat

>

>

>