Re: Fwd: help with 9 yr. old igenex results

[Guest guest]

I don't understand why that's " suspicious " ...if he tests positive both

acutely and chronically for that one band, what's suspicious about it? My

daughter tested positive for 6 bands IGM and 13 bands IGG, so it was

obvious....but from what I understood, we need to go to Igenex because it

tests ALL bands, and you only need ONE to be positive and get sick. What

about his co-infection results?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:28 AM, le Handy <kndplus2@...> wrote:

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> From: le Handy <kndplus2@... <kndplus2%40gmail.com>>

> Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

> Subject: help with 9 yr. old igenex results

> CaliforniaLyme <CaliforniaLyme%40>

>

> hello,

>

> my 9 yr. old son got tested thru igenex and my llmd said he tested

> " suspicious " for lyme.

> can anyone help me interpret the results?

>

> for IGM

>

> 41+

> 31 IND

> 39 IND

> 83-93 IND

> all the rest were negative

>

> for IGG

>

> 41++

> all the rest negative

>

> please help if you can!

> danielle

>

>

[Guest guest]

coinfections were all negative except positive for erhlichia and he has had

symptoms for the last 5 years but they are not necisarily severe. chronic

headaches that originate in the back of head (MRI fine) chronic stomach

aches (GI specialist is stumped), hyperactive but can focus in school, and

just a few other little things that could be anything. i also forgot to

mention that igenex also did the provocation test on his blood and that was

negative. i guess it is suppose to " provoke " the lyme into activity if it

was in his blood???

danielle

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Junia Dragon <juniadragon@...> wrote:

>

>

> I don't understand why that's " suspicious " ...if he tests positive both

> acutely and chronically for that one band, what's suspicious about it? My

> daughter tested positive for 6 bands IGM and 13 bands IGG, so it was

> obvious....but from what I understood, we need to go to Igenex because it

> tests ALL bands, and you only need ONE to be positive and get sick. What

> about his co-infection results?

>

>

>

> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:28 AM, le Handy

<kndplus2@...<kndplus2%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

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> > From: le Handy <kndplus2@... <kndplus2%40gmail.com><kndplus2%

> 40gmail.com>>

> > Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

> > Subject: help with 9 yr. old igenex results

> > CaliforniaLyme

<CaliforniaLyme%40><CaliforniaLyme%

> 40>

> >

> > hello,

> >

> > my 9 yr. old son got tested thru igenex and my llmd said he tested

> > " suspicious " for lyme.

> > can anyone help me interpret the results?

> >

> > for IGM

> >

> > 41+

> > 31 IND

> > 39 IND

> > 83-93 IND

> > all the rest were negative

> >

> > for IGG

> >

> > 41++

> > all the rest negative

> >

> > please help if you can!

> > danielle

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

erlichiosis can make someone VERY sick....are you with a Lyme Doc? I assume

you are if you have Igenex results...

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:17 AM, le Handy <kndplus2@...> wrote:

> coinfections were all negative except positive for erhlichia and he has had

> symptoms for the last 5 years but they are not necisarily severe. chronic

> headaches that originate in the back of head (MRI fine) chronic stomach

> aches (GI specialist is stumped), hyperactive but can focus in school, and

> just a few other little things that could be anything. i also forgot to

> mention that igenex also did the provocation test on his blood and that was

> negative. i guess it is suppose to " provoke " the lyme into activity if it

> was in his blood???

> danielle

>

> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Junia Dragon <juniadragon@...>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > I don't understand why that's " suspicious " ...if he tests positive both

> > acutely and chronically for that one band, what's suspicious about it? My

> > daughter tested positive for 6 bands IGM and 13 bands IGG, so it was

> > obvious....but from what I understood, we need to go to Igenex because it

> > tests ALL bands, and you only need ONE to be positive and get sick. What

> > about his co-infection results?

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:28 AM, le Handy <kndplus2@...

> <kndplus2%40gmail.com>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> > > From: le Handy <kndplus2@... <kndplus2%40gmail.com

> ><kndplus2%

> > 40gmail.com>>

> > > Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

> > > Subject: help with 9 yr. old igenex results

> > > CaliforniaLyme <CaliforniaLyme%40

> ><CaliforniaLyme%

> > 40>

> > >

> > > hello,

> > >

> > > my 9 yr. old son got tested thru igenex and my llmd said he tested

> > > " suspicious " for lyme.

> > > can anyone help me interpret the results?

> > >

> > > for IGM

> > >

> > > 41+

> > > 31 IND

> > > 39 IND

> > > 83-93 IND

> > > all the rest were negative

> > >

> > > for IGG

> > >

> > > 41++

> > > all the rest negative

> > >

> > > please help if you can!

> > > danielle

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

No, one band doesn't make you positive for Lyme under Igenex. I had the same

thing and we ended up doing a PCR test after an antibiotic challenge. The

suspicious part is that if you test that one band positive, you have had and no

doubt (to us lay people) have it, but they have to be careful to really quantify

the results so they typically do an antibiotic challenge and then retest to

confirm what they believe is the case. At least that's how I understand it,.

Natasha

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From: Junia Dragon <juniadragon@...>

Sent: Sat, September 11, 2010 6:49:40 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Fwd: help with 9 yr. old igenex results

I don't understand why that's " suspicious " ...if he tests positive both

acutely and chronically for that one band, what's suspicious about it? My

daughter tested positive for 6 bands IGM and 13 bands IGG, so it was

obvious....but from what I understood, we need to go to Igenex because it

tests ALL bands, and you only need ONE to be positive and get sick. What

about his co-infection results?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:28 AM, le Handy <kndplus2@...> wrote:

>

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: le Handy <kndplus2@... <kndplus2%40gmail.com>>

> Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

> Subject: help with 9 yr. old igenex results

> CaliforniaLyme <CaliforniaLyme%40>

>

> hello,

>

> my 9 yr. old son got tested thru igenex and my llmd said he tested

> " suspicious " for lyme.

> can anyone help me interpret the results?

>

> for IGM

>

> 41+

> 31 IND

> 39 IND

> 83-93 IND

> all the rest were negative

>

> for IGG

>

> 41++

> all the rest negative

>

> please help if you can!

> danielle

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think what they are referring to is what some call " equivocal. " I

THINK that means the band changed color a little but not really dark

that would make a definitive positive. Some LLMD's think that is as

good as positive when you back it up with a list of other physical

symptoms of Lymes. Which is how they use to diagnose it before the

unreliable testing started. Personally, I think, and I'm no doctor,

that it wouldn't change at all unless Lyme's were present! How else

is it going to change? You can't be a little pregnant can you?

Also, if you have another test done. Make sure you take 5 or 6 days

of something like Doxycycline first to really stir up the

spirochetes. They bond to free radicals in your blood that help them

hide from the test. The antibiotics make them release under stress so

they go crazy trying reproduce. Like when you step on an ant pile.

Sounds creepy I know but then they are easier to kill. And that

massive die off causes your herxheimer reactions! Some have them,

some don't.

And don't just have your blood tested, have your urine tested also.

IGENX does both.

Suzanne

On Sep 10, 2010, at 11:28 PM, le Handy wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: le Handy <kndplus2@...>

> Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:26 PM

> Subject: help with 9 yr. old igenex results

> CaliforniaLyme

>

> hello,

>

> my 9 yr. old son got tested thru igenex and my llmd said he tested

> " suspicious " for lyme.

> can anyone help me interpret the results?

>

> for IGM

>

> 41+

> 31 IND

> 39 IND

> 83-93 IND

> all the rest were negative

>

> for IGG

>

> 41++

> all the rest negative

>

> please help if you can!

> danielle

>

>