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Hi

I'm also glad about your daughter. My son is 14 years old and also had

the same symptoms as your daughter. I find this very interesting and would

like to hear more also. My son is on antibotics and they have hepled about

70 percent. " What caught my eye was I got my daughter back " , I have been

saying this since my son got antibiotics.

Thaniks

In a message dated 3/15/2011 9:33:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

ecckwalk@... writes:

Hello ,

I'm so glad to hear your daughter is doing well. I remember when you

posted on

this site that she was having her line taken out because of a clot.

I'm sorry I can't help with any of your questions-- have never used any

kind of

med like this. I'm curious though, why is this drug helping her if it's

to

treat blood clotting issues? It must be because she is still on

antibiotics

also? Maybe more of us need to know about this in case this is a delay in

progress for our treatment.

Best wishes,

Elaine

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Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 1:17:31 PM

Subject: [ ] I got my daughter back!- thanks to blood

thinners

Hi All -

Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to

do 5

weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and

Bartonella. Her

symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal

tics,

anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to

the

blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to

put in a

midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready

to

treat with major psychotropic drugs.

One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She

has

been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can

imagine -

IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that

she

has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the

past.

She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the

Lovenox will

ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come

back at

that time.

So my questions to all of you are:

If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you

have to

use the blood thinners?

Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so,

can you

pass on their contact info?

Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle

and

know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue

to give

her blood thinners.

Thanks,

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Hello ,

I'm so glad to hear your daughter is doing well.  I remember when you posted on

this site that she was having her line taken out because of a clot. 

I'm sorry I can't help with any of your questions-- have never used any kind of

med like this.  I'm curious though, why is this drug helping her if it's to

treat blood clotting issues?  It must be because she is still on antibiotics

also?  Maybe more of us need to know about this in case this is a delay in

progress for our treatment.

Best wishes,

Elaine

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From: exec5565 <exec5565@...>

Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 1:17:31 PM

Subject: [ ] I got my daughter back!- thanks to blood thinners

 

Hi All -

Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to do 5

weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and Bartonella. Her

symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal tics,

anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to the

blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to put in a

midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready to

treat with major psychotropic drugs.

One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She has

been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can imagine -

IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that she

has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the past.

She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the Lovenox will

ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come back at

that time.

So my questions to all of you are:

If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you have to

use the blood thinners?

Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so, can you

pass on their contact info?

Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle and

know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue to give

her blood thinners.

Thanks,

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this could potentially be a huge breakthrough in the lyme world. what does

your llmd say??? was your daughter still on any lyme treatment (oral abx) ??

please keep us posted and hopefully this is just the begining for your

daughter :)

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:17 PM, exec5565 <exec5565@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi All -

>

> Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to

> do 5 weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and

> Bartonella. Her symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based -

> motor, vocal tics, anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd,

> volatility etc. Prior to the blood clot, she was raging out of the control

> and we were attempting to put in a midline to treat with Rocephin

> intravenously. We were also getting ready to treat with major psychotropic

> drugs.

>

> One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She

> has been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

> aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can

> imagine - IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to

> relieve her symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now

> understand that she has coagulation issues and that is why she has not

> gotten better in the past.

>

> She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the Lovenox

> will ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come

> back at that time.

>

> So my questions to all of you are:

>

> If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you

> have to use the blood thinners?

>

> Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

>

> What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

>

> Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so, can

> you pass on their contact info?

>

> Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

>

> Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

>

> What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

>

> Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

>

> I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle

> and know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue

> to give her blood thinners.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

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My daughter,17, was put on bolouke and she had the same symptoms for years. We

have been on bolouke for over a year now and I feel sure she will stay on it.

Bolouke is a supplement used to thin the blood.she had severe anxiety and

depression since she was 6 and since we started tReatment she hasn't had any

anxiety in over a year. Its truly amazing.

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[ ] I got my daughter back!- thanks to blood

thinners

Hi All -

Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to

do 5

weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and

Bartonella. Her

symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal

tics,

anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to

the

blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to

put in a

midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready

to

treat with major psychotropic drugs.

One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She

has

been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can

imagine -

IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that

she

has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the

past.

She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the

Lovenox will

ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come

back at

that time.

So my questions to all of you are:

If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you

have to

use the blood thinners?

Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so,

can you

pass on their contact info?

Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle

and

know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue

to give

her blood thinners.

Thanks,

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I am so excited to hear this...I am going to look into this....sounds like it

might help one of my girls.....thank you! Diane

On Tue Mar 15th, 2011 10:39 PM CDT cmcsvc@... wrote:

>My daughter,17, was put on bolouke and she had the same symptoms for years. We

have been on bolouke for over a year now and I feel sure she will stay on it.

Bolouke is a supplement used to thin the blood.she had severe anxiety and

depression since she was 6 and since we started tReatment she hasn't had any

anxiety in over a year. Its truly amazing.

>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

> [ ] I got my daughter back!- thanks to blood

>thinners

>

>

>Hi All -

>

>Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to

>do 5

>weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and

>Bartonella. Her

>symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal

>tics,

>anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to

>the

>blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to

>put in a

>midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready

>to

>treat with major psychotropic drugs.

>

>One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She

>has

>been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

>aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can

>imagine -

>IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

>symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that

>she

>has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the

>past.

>

>She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the

>Lovenox will

>ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come

>back at

>that time.

>

>So my questions to all of you are:

>

>If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you

>have to

>use the blood thinners?

>

>Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

>

>What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

>

>Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so,

>can you

>pass on their contact info?

>

>Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

>

>Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

>

>What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

>

>Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

>

>I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle

>and

>know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue

>to give

>her blood thinners.

>

>Thanks,

>

>

>

>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Completely agree!  It is an over the counter supplement and has done wonders

for my daughter who has been ill for 9 years.

Carolyn Degnan

 

 

 

 

>My daughter,17, was put on bolouke and she had the same symptoms for years. We

have been on bolouke for over a year now and I feel sure she will stay on it.

Bolouke is a supplement used to thin the blood.she had severe anxiety and

depression since she was 6 and since we started tReatment she hasn't had any

anxiety in over a year. Its truly amazing.

>Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

>

> [ ] I got my daughter back!- thanks to blood

>thinners

>

>

>Hi All -

>

>Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to

>do 5

>weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and

>Bartonella. Her

>symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal

>tics,

>anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to

>the

>blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to

>put in a

>midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready

>to

>treat with major psychotropic drugs.

>

>One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She

>has

>been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

>aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can

>imagine -

>IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

>symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that

>she

>has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the

>past.

>

>She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the

>Lovenox will

>ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come

>back at

>that time.

>

>So my questions to all of you are:

>

>If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you

>have to

>use the blood thinners?

>

>Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

>

>What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

>

>Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so,

>can you

>pass on their contact info?

>

>Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

>

>Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

>

>What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

>

>Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

>

>I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle

>and

>know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue

>to give

>her blood thinners.

>

>Thanks,

>

>

>

>

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Hi

I have another son that had/has tested positive about eight times for Lyme. His

hands now turn purple.

Someone on another blog suggested this:

also look into nattokinase and lumbrokinase. look into biofilms from

chronic infection. lyme makes the blood thick. my daughter got a clot from her

picc line. put her on coumodin. felt better than she has in 3 years. HELLO!

i researched this one, let me tell you! she said that " my hands are so

WARM!!!!! now! i don't have to wear gloves in JULY! look into blood thinning

herbs ginko and vitamin E.

Omega-3 fatty acids found in fish oil also have some blood thinning effect

and are naturally anti-inflammatory as well. (therapeutic dose is about

1500 mg EPA and 750 mg DHA - most products don't supply enough in a

reasonable number of pills, but GNC's Triple Strength product does.)

She woman is a nutritionist in Canada. I didn't want to put her name here.

[ ] I got my daughter back!- thanks to blood thinners

Hi All -

Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to do 5

weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and Bartonella. Her

symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal tics,

anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to the

blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to put in a

midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready to

treat with major psychotropic drugs.

One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She has

been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can imagine -

IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that she

has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the past.

She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the Lovenox will

ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come back at

that time.

So my questions to all of you are:

If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you have to

use the blood thinners?

Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so, can you

pass on their contact info?

Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle and

know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue to give

her blood thinners.

Thanks,

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My daughter was diagnosed with raynauds before lyme which is circulation. After

taking bolouke her hands and feet are warm.

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[ ] I got my daughter back!- thanks to blood thinners

Hi All -

Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to do 5

weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and Bartonella. Her

symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal tics,

anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to the

blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to put in a

midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready to

treat with major psychotropic drugs.

One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She has

been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can imagine -

IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that she

has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the past.

She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the Lovenox will

ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come back at

that time.

So my questions to all of you are:

If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you have to

use the blood thinners?

Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so, can you

pass on their contact info?

Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle and

know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue to give

her blood thinners.

Thanks,

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Wow ... that's great news! Even the tics are gone? That's my son's main

issue, so I am definitely interested in this approach.

I had read about Bolouke (lumbrokinase) on other Lyme boards and had considered

trying it, but now I will definitely be ordering some.

I have read that Lyme (and other chronic infections) cause hypercoagulation

issues, so perhaps that's why the blood thinners provide relief of symptons...

more blood/oxygen getting to areas that need it.

Here are a couple of abstracts that relate to Lyme binding to plasmin.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8926103

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7809084

My son was tested for PAI-1 (Plasminogin Activator Inhibitor) and MTHFR gene

mutation. PAI-1 affects coagulation and MTHFR affects methylation, which

somehow ties into the whole issue. I truly don't understand it all (wish I

did). He had singnle mutations for both.

Good luck!! Glad you have finally seen improvement!

Beth

>

> Hi All -

>

> Recently my daughter got a blood clot from a failed midline and we had to do 5

weeks of Lovenox injections. She is 9 years old and has Lyme and Bartonella. Her

symptoms are all neurologically and psychologically based - motor, vocal tics,

anger, hostility, aggression, rage, anxiety, ocd, volatility etc. Prior to the

blood clot, she was raging out of the control and we were attempting to put in a

midline to treat with Rocephin intravenously. We were also getting ready to

treat with major psychotropic drugs.

>

> One week into the injections, all of my daughters symptoms subsided. She has

been symptom free since February 3rd. There is no more hostility, anger,

aggression - nothing. For two years, we tried every antibiotic you can imagine -

IVIG, midlines, all of it. And amazingly it took Lovenox to relieve her

symptoms. Based on the limited research I have done, I now understand that she

has coagulation issues and that is why she has not gotten better in the past.

>

> She has not had a Lovenox shot since March 3 and I am told that the Lovenox

will ware off in 5-6 weeks. I am fearful that all of her symptoms will come back

at that time.

>

> So my questions to all of you are:

>

> If you have coagulation issues and use blood thinners, how often do you have

to use the blood thinners?

>

> Can you stay on the Blood Thinners for an extended period of time?

>

> What do the blood thinners do as it relates to Lyme?

>

> Do you have a doctor that you use who prescribes blood thinners? If so, can

you pass on their contact info?

>

> Can you provide any additional research about Coagulation and Lyme?

>

> Are they injections? If not, what do you use?

>

> What blood tests did you run to find out that you had coagulation issues?

>

> Any information that you can pass on is greatly appreciated.

>

> I feel blessed that I have finally figured out a HUGE piece of the puzzle and

know how to heal my daughter. Now, I just need to find a way to continue to give

her blood thinners.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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