Re: Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

June 1, 2010

Thanks Mark.

Ill be reporting. I'm sure he will just give me a bunch of lab tests to go do.

Then ill know what is going on.

Prior to this incident I was in the best shape of my life. I was having sex

like 2 times a day. And now I feel like a shadow of my former self.

My T is great and E2 is good, I just think things are out of whack.

In one of his speeches Dr said that some peeps endocrine systems are

designed to fail.

I messed with my endocrine system and I feel this is the case.

Good luck to you too Mark.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

I wish you the best, and hope you feel much better soon!

Be sure to report on how it goes.

June 1, 2010

Its been rough on me.

I can still get it up but the quality isn't good and libido is gone. Its tough

for this to happen to me at 26. When I was on TRT I could cut steel with my

wood.

But I'm not going to give up.

I lost track at 30 girls, LOL.

I do miss the good old days.

THX for your support. It always helps.

Keep me posted on your labs and such.

Good luck.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

Like you I was fine until recently.

Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

Sex has always been a big part of my life until the last couple of years. Not

bragging, but I lost count at the point of about 60 different females a number

of years ago.

As I have said before,....I can still get it up when it NEEDS to happen, but I

just don't have the interest at all.

You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only imagine how you feel about

this,.......I would have been at my wits end at your age.

I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more concerned about being able to

continue to function in my trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty

well for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all day growing fat

deposits and waiting to go to bed.

We have different issues, but it sucks for both of us!

June 1, 2010

I am getting to the point where I want to settle down.

Unfortunelty, the girl of my dreams lives in Italy and I want to move there but

if I need TRT I can't get it there.

They don't like taking aspirin there. I'm sure I couldn't get TRT there.

I think I won't need TRT, just maybe fine tune my endocrine system.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

>

> Like you I was fine until recently.

> Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

>

> Sex has always been a big part of my life until the last couple of years. Not

bragging, but I lost count at the point of about 60 different females a number

of years ago.

>

> As I have said before,....I can still get it up when it NEEDS to happen, but I

just don't have the interest at all.

> You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only imagine how you feel about

this,.......I would have been at my wits end at your age.

>

> I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more concerned about being able to

continue to function in my trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty

well for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all day growing fat

deposits and waiting to go to bed.

>

> We have different issues, but it sucks for both of us!

>

June 1, 2010

Hey Marc,

How far out did you have to schedule your appointment with Dr. ?

I'm still on the fence about spending the money to go and see Dr. . I

know it would be worth it, but my resources are running out, and I've

already spend thousands of dollars seeing other docs. The doc I'm seeing

now is great, it's just that this doc is a very, very busy person and I'm

not sure this person has the time to put into his patients (I'm and out of

town patient) and I'm not sure he knows a lot about adrenal fatigue. With

my head injuries and adrenal fatigue, I need a doc who can hold my hand

through the initial phases of treatment because every little adjustment

really throws me off.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM, marc200134470 <cfs38@...> wrote:

>

> Marc,.......I have 22 years on you brother!

> I am sure you will surpass my number once you get well. I think it might be

> around 75 now, so shoot to beat that by 48! LOL

>

> I have been monogamous to one woman,......that's what us old guys call

> 'girls' for the past 6 years. ) First time in my life BTW.

>

> I have lived a wild life per se, and I guess I might be paying for it now.

> Won't continue this any more, but will hope that you have a great result

> from your visit.

>

> >

> > Its been rough on me.

> >

> > I can still get it up but the quality isn't good and libido is gone. Its

> tough for this to happen to me at 26. When I was on TRT I could cut steel

> with my wood.

> >

> > But I'm not going to give up.

> >

> > I lost track at 30 girls, LOL.

> >

> > I do miss the good old days.

> >

> > THX for your support. It always helps.

> >

> > Keep me posted on your labs and such.

> >

> > Good luck.

> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> >

> > Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

> >

> > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> >

> > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the last couple of years.

> Not bragging, but I lost count at the point of about 60 different females a

> number of years ago.

> >

> > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when it NEEDS to happen,

> but I just don't have the interest at all.

> > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only imagine how you feel

> about this,.......I would have been at my wits end at your age.

> >

> > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more concerned about being

> able to continue to function in my trade/business. I could retire as I have

> done pretty well for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> >

> > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of us!

> >

June 1, 2010

I scheduled it 3 weeks in advance but it sounded like I could have gone in a

week or so.

My advice is go. Your health is more important than your wallet.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

> >

> > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> >

> > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the last couple of years.

> Not bragging, but I lost count at the point of about 60 different females a

> number of years ago.

> >

> > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when it NEEDS to happen,

> but I just don't have the interest at all.

> > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only imagine how you feel

> about this,.......I would have been at my wits end at your age.

> >

> > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more concerned about being

> able to continue to function in my trade/business. I could retire as I have

> done pretty well for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> >

> > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of us!

> >

June 1, 2010

Will do.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

Hi Marc. Good luck and please do post about your trip and visit with the doc.

I'm scheduled to see him on 6/17.

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I'm leaving tomorrow to see Dr. and my appointment is Thursday.

June 1, 2010

I have taked to men from Italy on TRT.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Marc Michaud <MisterX225@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:03 PM

>

> I am getting to the point where I want to settle down.

>

> Unfortunelty, the girl of my dreams lives in Italy and I

> want to move there but if I need TRT I can't get it

> there.

> They don't like taking aspirin there. I'm sure I

> couldn't get TRT there.

>

> I think I won't need TRT, just maybe fine tune my endocrine

> system.

>

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Re: Well I'm off to Lansing

> tomorrow

> >

> > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> >

> > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the

> last couple of years. Not bragging, but I lost count at the

> point of about 60 different females a number of years ago.

> >

> > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when

> it NEEDS to happen, but I just don't have the interest at

> all.

> > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only

> imagine how you feel about this,.......I would have been at

> my wits end at your age.

> >

> > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more

> concerned about being able to continue to function in my

> trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty well

> for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> >

> > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of

> us!

> >

June 1, 2010

Really? I am getting my Italian citizenship.

This is great news.

Damn Phil you are the ultimate guru. =]

I am going to tell Dr that your advice led me to go see him.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing

> tomorrow

> >

> > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> >

> > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the

> last couple of years. Not bragging, but I lost count at the

> point of about 60 different females a number of years ago.

> >

> > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when

> it NEEDS to happen, but I just don't have the interest at

> all.

> > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only

> imagine how you feel about this,.......I would have been at

> my wits end at your age.

> >

> > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more

> concerned about being able to continue to function in my

> trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty well

> for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> >

> > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of

> us!

> >

June 1, 2010

I lived in Ireland for 6 months and believe me, you can get just about

anything you want in Europe.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 4:23 PM, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

> I have taked to men from Italy on TRT.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

> > From: Marc Michaud <MisterX225@... <MisterX225%40aol.com>>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

> > < %40>

> > Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:03 PM

> >

> > I am getting to the point where I want to settle down.

> >

> > Unfortunelty, the girl of my dreams lives in Italy and I

> > want to move there but if I need TRT I can't get it

> > there.

> > They don't like taking aspirin there. I'm sure I

> > couldn't get TRT there.

> >

> > I think I won't need TRT, just maybe fine tune my endocrine

> > system.

> >

> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> >

> > Re: Well I'm off to Lansing

> > tomorrow

> > >

> > > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> > >

> > > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the

> > last couple of years. Not bragging, but I lost count at the

> > point of about 60 different females a number of years ago.

> > >

> > > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when

> > it NEEDS to happen, but I just don't have the interest at

> > all.

> > > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only

> > imagine how you feel about this,.......I would have been at

> > my wits end at your age.

> > >

> > > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more

> > concerned about being able to continue to function in my

> > trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty well

> > for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> > day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> > >

> > > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of

> > us!

> > >

June 1, 2010

Legally?

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing

> > tomorrow

> > >

> > > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> > >

> > > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the

> > last couple of years. Not bragging, but I lost count at the

> > point of about 60 different females a number of years ago.

> > >

> > > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when

> > it NEEDS to happen, but I just don't have the interest at

> > all.

> > > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only

> > imagine how you feel about this,.......I would have been at

> > my wits end at your age.

> > >

> > > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more

> > concerned about being able to continue to function in my

> > trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty well

> > for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> > day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> > >

> > > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of

> > us!

> > >

June 1, 2010

Yeah, pretty much.

Doctors are much more liberal in dispensing medication over there because

they don't have the malpractice lawsuites and governing bodies we have over

here. So, anyone in Europe shouldn't have any problem getting a doc to

prescribe hormones for therapy.

Also, depending on what country you are in, some of the medications that are

prescription only here can be bought over the counter there. Similar to

Mexico.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Marc Michaud <MisterX225@...> wrote:

>

> Legally?

> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

>

> Re: Well I'm off to Lansing

> > > tomorrow

> > > >

> > > > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > > > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> > > >

> > > > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the

> > > last couple of years. Not bragging, but I lost count at the

> > > point of about 60 different females a number of years ago.

> > > >

> > > > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when

> > > it NEEDS to happen, but I just don't have the interest at

> > > all.

> > > > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only

> > > imagine how you feel about this,.......I would have been at

> > > my wits end at your age.

> > > >

> > > > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more

> > > concerned about being able to continue to function in my

> > > trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty well

> > > for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> > > day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> > > >

> > > > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of

> > > us!

> > > >

June 1, 2010

THX for the info.

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> > > tomorrow

> > > >

> > > > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > > > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> > > >

> > > > Sex has always been a big part of my life until the

> > > last couple of years. Not bragging, but I lost count at the

> > > point of about 60 different females a number of years ago.

> > > >

> > > > As I have said before,....I can still get it up when

> > > it NEEDS to happen, but I just don't have the interest at

> > > all.

> > > > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can only

> > > imagine how you feel about this,.......I would have been at

> > > my wits end at your age.

> > > >

> > > > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more

> > > concerned about being able to continue to function in my

> > > trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty well

> > > for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear all

> > > day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> > > >

> > > > We have different issues, but it sucks for both of

> > > us!

> > > >

June 2, 2010

Most of the men came to the MESO Forum Hardasnails is a mod there. I don't go

there anymore it not the same with out Dr. he started there forum " Men's

Health " it was one of the best still is dam good for searching.

http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/index.php?

At this forum Dr. was aka SWALE.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Marc Michaud <MisterX225@...>

> > Subject: Re: Re: Well I'm off to

> Lansing tomorrow

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 4:03 PM

> >

> > I am getting to the point where I want to settle down.

>

> >

> > Unfortunelty, the girl of my dreams lives in Italy and

> I

> > want to move there but if I need TRT I can't get it

> > there.

> > They don't like taking aspirin there. I'm sure I

> > couldn't get TRT there.

> >

> > I think I won't need TRT, just maybe fine tune my

> endocrine

> > system.

> >

> > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

> >

> > Re: Well I'm off to

> Lansing

> > tomorrow

> > >

> > > Like you I was fine until recently.

> > > Was doing good for an older guy! LOL

> > >

> > > Sex has always been a big part of my life until

> the

> > last couple of years. Not bragging, but I lost count

> at the

> > point of about 60 different females a number of years

> ago.

> > >

> > > As I have said before,....I can still get it up

> when

> > it NEEDS to happen, but I just don't have the interest

> at

> > all.

> > > You are a much younger guy than me, and I can

> only

> > imagine how you feel about this,.......I would have

> been at

> > my wits end at your age.

> > >

> > > I hope for me THAT area improves, but I am more

> > concerned about being able to continue to function in

> my

> > trade/business. I could retire as I have done pretty

> well

> > for myself, but I really don't wish to sit on my rear

> all

> > day growing fat deposits and waiting to go to bed.

> > >

> > > We have different issues, but it sucks for both

> of

> > us!

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

June 2, 2010

I see him tomorrow, ill post about my visit.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

Hi , I'm scheduled to see Dr. on 6/17. Every little adjustment

throws me off too, and I'm on a pile of thyroid meds and supps already, so I'm

really concerned about it changing up too many things at once and crashing hard.

This is some delicate work that we're doing and I, for one, have not managed it

very well on my own but all of the wellness/homeopathic/alternative docs that I

have seen have given me long lists of things to add and change, despite telling

me to go slow, and I've felt awful every time. I'm really hoping for different

with Dr. .

>

> Hey Marc,

>

> How far out did you have to schedule your appointment with Dr. ?

>

> I'm still on the fence about spending the money to go and see Dr. . I

> know it would be worth it, but my resources are running out, and I've

> already spend thousands of dollars seeing other docs. The doc I'm seeing

> now is great, it's just that this doc is a very, very busy person and I'm

> not sure this person has the time to put into his patients (I'm and out of

> town patient) and I'm not sure he knows a lot about adrenal fatigue. With

> my head injuries and adrenal fatigue, I need a doc who can hold my hand

> through the initial phases of treatment because every little adjustment

> really throws me off.

June 3, 2010

Thanks Marc I feel your on your way to being healthy again.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Marc M <MisterX225@...>

> Subject: Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 6:52 PM

>

> Well, I'm finally here at the Hotel in Lansing.

>

> What a great town this is.

>

> The airport is great too.

>

> Well...I am working on my list of questions for Dr.

> . Don't want to forget anything important.

>

> For once, I feel emotionally better, just knowing I am

> going to go see the right Doctor.

>

> When I get back to the airport tomorrow, I'll def. be

> posting about my visit.

>

> - Marc

>

> PS: Phil thank you so much for telling me numerous

> times to go visit him. I probably would have never

> gone without your advice. You are truly an asset to

> this group and to the many people you have helped over the

> years.

>

> > >

> > > Hey Marc,

> > >

> > > How far out did you have to schedule your

> appointment with Dr. ?

> > >

> > > I'm still on the fence about spending the money

> to go and see Dr. . I

> > > know it would be worth it, but my resources are

> running out, and I've

> > > already spend thousands of dollars seeing other

> docs. The doc I'm seeing

> > > now is great, it's just that this doc is a very,

> very busy person and I'm

> > > not sure this person has the time to put into his

> patients (I'm and out of

> > > town patient) and I'm not sure he knows a lot

> about adrenal fatigue. With

> > > my head injuries and adrenal fatigue, I need a

> doc who can hold my hand

> > > through the initial phases of treatment because

> every little adjustment

> > > really throws me off.

> >

June 3, 2010

To be honest I feel so much happier just knowing I am going.

I think you're right Phil. Ill get back on my feet again soon.

Thx so much.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 6:52 PM

>

> Well, I'm finally here at the Hotel in Lansing.

>

> What a great town this is.

>

> The airport is great too.

>

> Well...I am working on my list of questions for Dr.

> . Don't want to forget anything important.

>

> For once, I feel emotionally better, just knowing I am

> going to go see the right Doctor.

>

> When I get back to the airport tomorrow, I'll def. be

> posting about my visit.

>

> - Marc

>

> PS: Phil thank you so much for telling me numerous

> times to go visit him. I probably would have never

> gone without your advice. You are truly an asset to

> this group and to the many people you have helped over the

> years.

>

> > >

> > > Hey Marc,

> > >

> > > How far out did you have to schedule your

> appointment with Dr. ?

> > >

> > > I'm still on the fence about spending the money

> to go and see Dr. . I

> > > know it would be worth it, but my resources are

> running out, and I've

> > > already spend thousands of dollars seeing other

> docs. The doc I'm seeing

> > > now is great, it's just that this doc is a very,

> very busy person and I'm

> > > not sure this person has the time to put into his

> patients (I'm and out of

> > > town patient) and I'm not sure he knows a lot

> about adrenal fatigue. With

> > > my head injuries and adrenal fatigue, I need a

> doc who can hold my hand

> > > through the initial phases of treatment because

> every little adjustment

> > > really throws me off.

> >

June 3, 2010

Well.

Dr said my case is one of the most difficult cases he has seen.

I have slight Gyno.

My body is pretty messed up. He thinks my liver won't metabolize estergen.

I'm really upset about the news.

But he is a great doctor and a nice guy. I should have seen him sooner.

For everyone who is postponing visiting him, don't make the same mistake I did.

Just go and see him.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 6:52 PM

>

> Well, I'm finally here at the Hotel in Lansing.

>

> What a great town this is.

>

> The airport is great too.

>

> Well...I am working on my list of questions for Dr.

> . Don't want to forget anything important.

>

> For once, I feel emotionally better, just knowing I am

> going to go see the right Doctor.

>

> When I get back to the airport tomorrow, I'll def. be

> posting about my visit.

>

> - Marc

>

> PS: Phil thank you so much for telling me numerous

> times to go visit him. I probably would have never

> gone without your advice. You are truly an asset to

> this group and to the many people you have helped over the

> years.

>

> > >

> > > Hey Marc,

> > >

> > > How far out did you have to schedule your

> appointment with Dr. ?

> > >

> > > I'm still on the fence about spending the money

> to go and see Dr. . I

> > > know it would be worth it, but my resources are

> running out, and I've

> > > already spend thousands of dollars seeing other

> docs. The doc I'm seeing

> > > now is great, it's just that this doc is a very,

> very busy person and I'm

> > > not sure this person has the time to put into his

> patients (I'm and out of

> > > town patient) and I'm not sure he knows a lot

> about adrenal fatigue. With

> > > my head injuries and adrenal fatigue, I need a

> doc who can hold my hand

> > > through the initial phases of treatment because

> every little adjustment

> > > really throws me off.

> >

June 3, 2010

Sorry about the bad news but how will treatment help I know he dose not like men

to tell how he is treating them he gets dam mad when they do. But does he feel

he can help you to feel better.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: Marc M <MisterX225@...>

>

> > Subject: Re: Well I'm off to Lansing

> tomorrow

>

> >

>

> > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 6:52 PM

>

> >

>

> > Well, I'm finally here at the Hotel in Lansing.

>

> >

>

> > What a great town this is.

>

> >

>

> > The airport is great too.

>

> >

>

> > Well...I am working on my list of questions for Dr.

>

> > . Don't want to forget anything important.

>

> >

>

> > For once, I feel emotionally better, just knowing I

> am

>

> > going to go see the right Doctor.

>

> >

>

> > When I get back to the airport tomorrow, I'll def. be

>

> > posting about my visit.

>

> >

>

> > - Marc

>

> >

>

> > PS: Phil thank you so much for telling me numerous

>

> > times to go visit him. I probably would have never

>

> > gone without your advice. You are truly an asset to

>

> > this group and to the many people you have helped over

> the

>

> > years.

>

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> > > > Hey Marc,

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> > > >

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> > > > How far out did you have to schedule your

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> > appointment with Dr. ?

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> > > >

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> > > > I'm still on the fence about spending the

> money

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> > to go and see Dr. . I

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> > > > know it would be worth it, but my resources

> are

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> > running out, and I've

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> > > > already spend thousands of dollars seeing

> other

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> > docs. The doc I'm seeing

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> > > > now is great, it's just that this doc is a

> very,

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> > very busy person and I'm

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> > > > not sure this person has the time to put

> into his

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> > patients (I'm and out of

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> > > > town patient) and I'm not sure he knows a

> lot

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> > about adrenal fatigue. With

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> > > > my head injuries and adrenal fatigue, I need

> a

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> > doc who can hold my hand

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> > > > through the initial phases of treatment

> because

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> > every little adjustment

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> > > > really throws me off.

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June 3, 2010

I didn't know that.

He does feel like he can help me.

We will just have to wait and see.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing

> tomorrow

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> >

>

> > Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 6:52 PM

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> >

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> > Well, I'm finally here at the Hotel in Lansing.

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> > What a great town this is.

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> > The airport is great too.

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> > Well...I am working on my list of questions for Dr.

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> > . Don't want to forget anything important.

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> > For once, I feel emotionally better, just knowing I

> am

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> > going to go see the right Doctor.

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> >

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> > When I get back to the airport tomorrow, I'll def. be

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> > posting about my visit.

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> >

>

> > - Marc

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> >

>

> > PS: Phil thank you so much for telling me numerous

>

> > times to go visit him. I probably would have never

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> > gone without your advice. You are truly an asset to

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> > this group and to the many people you have helped over

> the

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> > years.

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> > > > Hey Marc,

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> > > >

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> > > > How far out did you have to schedule your

>

> > appointment with Dr. ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I'm still on the fence about spending the

> money

>

> > to go and see Dr. . I

>

> > > > know it would be worth it, but my resources

> are

>

> > running out, and I've

>

> > > > already spend thousands of dollars seeing

> other

>

> > docs. The doc I'm seeing

>

> > > > now is great, it's just that this doc is a

> very,

>

> > very busy person and I'm

>

> > > > not sure this person has the time to put

> into his

>

> > patients (I'm and out of

>

> > > > town patient) and I'm not sure he knows a

> lot

>

> > about adrenal fatigue. With

>

> > > > my head injuries and adrenal fatigue, I need

> a

>

> > doc who can hold my hand

>

> > > > through the initial phases of treatment

> because

>

> > every little adjustment

>

> > > > really throws me off.

>

> > >

>

> > >

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> > >

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> >

June 3, 2010

Well he is a great doc and I won't disclose any of his treatments. Sorry but I

need his help and he is a great doc. And I will respect his wishes.

Mark you should consider him, regardless. He knows his stuff, I was very

impressed.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

Marc,.......I hope things turn out well somehow for you.

If Phil is correct and he gets " damn mad " about a patient saying anything about

what he does to treat them, then he is most likely not for me. I am glad to

learn that tidbit of info.

Does he have you sign a form that you will not speak about your treatment to

another person?

I doubt he has a patent per se on anything,.....plus it's not like one

individual is the same as another anyway. Whatever

June 3, 2010

THX for your support either way.

Good luck to you.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

>

> Marc,.......I hope things turn out well somehow for you.

> If Phil is correct and he gets " damn mad " about a patient saying anything

about what he does to treat them, then he is most likely not for me. I am glad

to learn that tidbit of info.

>

> Does he have you sign a form that you will not speak about your treatment to

another person?

>

> I doubt he has a patent per se on anything,.....plus it's not like one

individual is the same as another anyway. Whatever

>

June 3, 2010

As far as " petty " goes, we'll just consider the source of the insult. I

think my 120,000+ message board posts should free me of such nonsense.

As far as my being a " quack " goes-there has never been a legitimate claim

which has held up against me. Only men of very low character venting their

emotional morbidities. Pick which line you want to stand in, pal.

I do not want my patients publishing their specific treatments because then

everyone thinks that is what they should be doing, too. It spreads all over

the Internet like wildfire. And the variation across the population is so

great, it would simply not be good were that to happen. Also, sometimes I

have to do things quite different in order to serve patients with truly

remarkable cases, such as this particular GENTLEMAN. Some treatments are,

literally, a one time thing. Either way, we have ot do what we have to do,

as everyone is an individual, and deserving of a healthy, happy life.

IF you were my patient-and I highly suspect you would not last long IF you

were-I would dismiss you from my practice for such ungentlemanly behaviors.

My patients are all good guys. Make that REALLY good guys.

Man Up, dude.

Be well!

Regards,

Crisler, DO

Anti-Aging Medicine

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No I didn't mean it in a negative way. You have given me great support and I

appreciate it.

I'm just on edge today. Sorry.

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Re: Well I'm off to Lansing tomorrow

Marc,.....I didn't mean to start anything.

I am almost twice your age, and I guess my cynicism shows a bit more than a

younger person.

Just get to feeling better, as that is all that matters for your life right now.

June 3, 2010

Dr ,

It was pleasure meeting you today.

Thank. You for your help.

I look. Forward to working with you.

I won't publish any treatments, I understand the reasoning.

As you know, this has been rough on me and I go on the boards for moral support.

I am going to explain the situation to my parents for more additional support.

THX again. I'm happy I came and saw you.

THX for the coffee. =]

Marc