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> I just got a letter from my Dr. saying he is joining this group at MDVIP. And

will be cutting his practice no more then 600 patients for a cost of $1,500 to

$1,800 per yr. So join up now so you can secure a place in our practice.

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> WTF now If I want to use him I pay over and above what I pay for my Health

Care Plain out of my pocket this much more money.

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> Is this what it comes down too looks like I need a new Dr. Anyone getting a

letter like this. I did a search at groups and no one had a good thing to say

about Dr.'s doing this.

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> He wants me to pay him for the right to see him like join his club or find a

new Dr. The cost will not cover my seeing him he will still bill my insurance

and get the same money he gets now.

> http://www.mdvip.com/patient/default.aspx

I would definitely think things over before entering into this. I have

actually changed doctors just on the basis of their arrogant attitudes. I want a

doctor that I can talk to who actually listens to me. I know that doctor

searching is very frustrating but when you do find the one you can work with

your care is much better! I would be very skeptical of this.

Mike,

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I did joined something very similar to this at a place called Fibro and

Fatigue centers. Waste of money. They were great in the beginning but as

soon as I hit the " $1000 " mark, they began cutting way back on services that

I needed. It literally became a headache to get them to do anything after

that. In my opinion, I wouldn't do it.

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 4:14 PM, pmgamer18 <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

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> I just got a letter from my Dr. saying he is joining this group at MDVIP.

> And will be cutting his practice no more then 600 patients for a cost of

> $1,500 to $1,800 per yr. So join up now so you can secure a place in our

> practice.

>

> WTF now If I want to use him I pay over and above what I pay for my Health

> Care Plain out of my pocket this much more money.

>

> Is this what it comes down too looks like I need a new Dr. Anyone getting a

> letter like this. I did a search at groups and no one had a good thing to

> say about Dr.'s doing this.

>

> He wants me to pay him for the right to see him like join his club or find

> a new Dr. The cost will not cover my seeing him he will still bill my

> insurance and get the same money he gets now.

> http://www.mdvip.com/patient/default.aspx

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Mike

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I've never had a doctor that didn't give me good service, It's what doctors are

supposed to do. You should be able to get good advice and attention from your

doctor without having to pay extra for it.

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I don't like this crap one bit I have my Heart Dr. he was an Endo in Italy

treating people for Pituitary problems. When I became his patient he was going

over all my hormones and told me I should be on Growth Hormones and get my

insurance to pay for it. I feel he is better at this them the Dr. treating me

now.

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Phil

> From: mikt4 <mikt4@...>

> Subject: Re: MDVIP

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> Date: Friday, December 17, 2010, 4:49 PM

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> > I just got a letter from my Dr. saying he is joining

> this group at MDVIP. And will be cutting his practice no

> more then 600 patients for a cost of $1,500 to $1,800 per

> yr. So join up now so you can secure a place in our

> practice.

> >

> > WTF now If I want to use him I pay over and above what

> I pay for my Health Care Plain out of my pocket this much

> more money.

> >

> > Is this what it comes down too looks like I need a new

> Dr. Anyone getting a letter like this. I did a search at

> groups and no one had a good thing to say about Dr.'s doing

> this.

> >

> > He wants me to pay him for the right to see him like

> join his club or find a new Dr.  The cost will not

> cover my seeing him he will still bill my insurance and get

> the same money he gets now.

> > http://www.mdvip.com/patient/default.aspx

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>    I would definitely think things over

> before entering into this. I have actually changed doctors

> just on the basis of their arrogant attitudes. I want a

> doctor that I can talk to who actually listens to me. I know

> that doctor searching is very frustrating but when you do

> find the one you can work with your care is much better! I

> would be very skeptical of this.

>   Mike,

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Phil and programer I too got the same letter. The problem is I like my doc.I'm

sure we are all seeing the same guy Dr.s. He was recomended on this

site.Trying to find a good knowledgable doc is tough.What do you do now? I

don't like the idea of paying any additional money but what other choices do we

have? Let me know if you guys hear of other docs that are as good and I will do

the same.

Second part I recently gave blood @ the red cross.They checked m

blood for iron content (hemoglobin/hematocrit)? It was 19 very high. I know this

is a side effect of TRT. My first doc took me off TRT because of it and the

current doc is working with me and seems to be more knowledgable of what really

is danger levels.Currently I apply 1/2teaspoon (1 ml)daily of 2% compounded

cream and inject once per week 1 ml of testosterone cypronate. Would it be

better to inject twice weekly and 1/2 the amount to control the iron/hematocrit?

My last test results were good for testosterone 795.I go for blood work next

week and will post new results as soon as I get them. I feel pretty good now not

great but good and am taking DIM to control estrogen. I hope this works out for

us I recently had both adult kids move back home because of their lack of work

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