HCT

[Guest guest]

Actually amazing how little attention is paid to the gut.

Right now,...I myself am taking a 2 week run of Cipro for a high level of

Citrobacter sp.

After that I get to do Diflucan for another 2 weeks due to high levels of yeast.

This all showed up on a test from a company called Metametrix. It's their 2100

complete profile or something like that. You may be familiar with it in your

line of work.

I have all kinds of strange things going on, and I think my gut might be at the

root of many of my problems. Contrary to what some others do, I have tried to

stay off of as many meds as humanly possible and get to the root of the problem

first.

>

> I currently work on complex cases across the world dealing with fatigue,

depression from both male and female. I am in school studying alternative

medicine and work with Dr's when they may need a little guidence on what

direction to go with specific cases ranges from lyme, autism, heavy metal, gut

issues, ect. I have also been through and them some from a personal stand

point. Many years ago I was stricten with unknown illness which medical dr's

just labels it as depression, but I knew it was an intestinal infection that

went out of control almost killing me. Now I help people that have slipped

thorugh the cracks of modern medicine. I am very respected on the forums for

helping people get back there well being by examing the root cause of the issue

not just the symptoms. i have known phil for over 6 years and we are very close

freinds. I have worked in a clincal setting for a few years under supervision

of an MD where we work together bringing the best of alternative medicine and

traditional medicine to help resolve people health issues.

>

[Guest guest]

I am become good freinds with Dr armin at tempe arizona parasitology lab. He has

been a great reference and has 3 of worlds parasitlogist at his site. Dr armin

or the other 2 do their own analysis not lab techs such as genova, metametrix,

great plains. Here is the link to his website. Tell him Bean from Dr

ovebecks refered you he will know who it is. He also has called me on Sundays

as well with lab results becauase of how he knowns patients feel with these

infections. I found that amazing !! The gut is so overlooked and after talking

to alot of top names in my field they are on the same page. By healing the gut

I have resort T levels, depression, adrenal, thyroid, fatigue, helped people

loose weight, anxiety. If you think about it the gut is where 90% of

neurotransmitters are produced and 70% of the immune system. When digestion

function decreases the body will go into total despair and treating hormones is

just a symptoms of the cause. Many people have optimal hormones and still do not

feel right untill you look at underlying issues such as gut, brain, liver,

hidden infections, lifestlye, nutrition, heavy metals, genetic mutation, ect you

will not get well.

http://www.parasitetesting.com/

> >

> > I currently work on complex cases across the world dealing with fatigue,

depression from both male and female. I am in school studying alternative

medicine and work with Dr's when they may need a little guidence on what

direction to go with specific cases ranges from lyme, autism, heavy metal, gut

issues, ect. I have also been through and them some from a personal stand

point. Many years ago I was stricten with unknown illness which medical dr's

just labels it as depression, but I knew it was an intestinal infection that

went out of control almost killing me. Now I help people that have slipped

thorugh the cracks of modern medicine. I am very respected on the forums for

helping people get back there well being by examing the root cause of the issue

not just the symptoms. i have known phil for over 6 years and we are very close

freinds. I have worked in a clincal setting for a few years under supervision

of an MD where we work together bringing the best of alternative medicine and

traditional medicine to help resolve people health issues.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for that link,....I will pass it on to my 'functional medicine' doc here.

That complete profile is a lot cheaper than the Metametrix 2100 test. That one

ran me over 300 bucks.

I tested negative for parasites actually, short of one that showed up as

'taxonomy unavailable' which supposedly means it was a dead ingested protozoan.

He wants me to take the Genova Nutreval test after I finish these drug runs to

see how I am absorbing nutrients as well. My B-12 is lower 1/3 of

range,.....most likely long term PPI usage for GERD.

My vitamin D level was quite low, and I am on supplements of D3 for that. Just

sent in two cheek swabs for a gene test for Celiac to a place called EnteroLab.

I have 'the runs' a lot, and get very bloated with gas whenever I eat anything

more than a tiny amount of food. If I eat too much at one time my heart rate

increases a huge amount. I know that a small increase is normal due to the

shunting of blood for digestion, but mine is out of the norm. Plenty of

intestinal cramps and belching, etc.

I hate to take the Cipro and Diflucan, but the only other choice was some

herbs/botanicals and I do not have a great history of tolerating herbs well. He

said this would take care of it much faster anyway.

I am also on pro-biotics while I am doing this 'drug run'.

I eat quite healthy, but I just think that everything is passing through me

without being absorbed by and large. Plus the feelings I get when eating are

really troublesome which of course makes me not want to eat much.

Sorry for going into my details, but I think I will do the profile you linked to

after I am finished with this run of pharmas. Since you are in the biz,.....how

long after I am done to re-test and see if the bad stuff was knocked down/out?

>

>

> I am become good freinds with Dr armin at tempe arizona parasitology lab. He

has been a great reference and has 3 of worlds parasitlogist at his site. Dr

armin or the other 2 do their own analysis not lab techs such as genova,

metametrix, great plains. Here is the link to his website. Tell him Bean

from Dr ovebecks refered you he will know who it is. He also has called me on

Sundays as well with lab results becauase of how he knowns patients feel with

these infections. I found that amazing !! The gut is so overlooked and after

talking to alot of top names in my field they are on the same page. By healing

the gut I have resort T levels, depression, adrenal, thyroid, fatigue, helped

people loose weight, anxiety. If you think about it the gut is where 90% of

neurotransmitters are produced and 70% of the immune system. When digestion

function decreases the body will go into total despair and treating hormones is

just a symptoms of the cause. Many people have optimal hormones and still do not

feel right untill you look at underlying issues such as gut, brain, liver,

hidden infections, lifestlye, nutrition, heavy metals, genetic mutation, ect you

will not get well.

>

> http://www.parasitetesting.com/

[Guest guest]

I would run the nutra eval test which took me over 2 years to read first to

identify the imbalances. Uf you start going after one thing it can aggravate

something that is the underlying cause such as mercury. This is where experience

comes in from dealing with this complex medical puzzles. I have seen cases that

have stumped some of the top dr's. Once you start to dig looking at the entire

picture then you will start to connect the dots resulting in light bulbs going

on. I have ran into cases where a simple genetic mutation was the cause of whole

families health and mental disorder in austrailia which was potential triggered

by excessive expsoure to Electromagnetic fields because they lived right down

the street from a power plant. Like I said I have seen it all !!

> >

> >

> > I am become good freinds with Dr armin at tempe arizona parasitology lab. He

has been a great reference and has 3 of worlds parasitlogist at his site. Dr

armin or the other 2 do their own analysis not lab techs such as genova,

metametrix, great plains. Here is the link to his website. Tell him Bean

from Dr ovebecks refered you he will know who it is. He also has called me on

Sundays as well with lab results becauase of how he knowns patients feel with

these infections. I found that amazing !! The gut is so overlooked and after

talking to alot of top names in my field they are on the same page. By healing

the gut I have resort T levels, depression, adrenal, thyroid, fatigue, helped

people loose weight, anxiety. If you think about it the gut is where 90% of

neurotransmitters are produced and 70% of the immune system. When digestion

function decreases the body will go into total despair and treating hormones is

just a symptoms of the cause. Many people have optimal hormones and still do not

feel right untill you look at underlying issues such as gut, brain, liver,

hidden infections, lifestlye, nutrition, heavy metals, genetic mutation, ect you

will not get well.

> >

> > http://www.parasitetesting.com/

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks much for your input.

Fortunately I qualify for the 'Pay Assured' program for that NutrEval test. I

have to send them 169 dollars I believe, and then they TRY to collect from my

insurance company. If they can't I don't owe them anything else.

I have read that test is really expensive if you do not qualify for the

above,......as in 1K plus.

It is a huge screening, both urine and blood/plasma as you know.

I surely will not be able to make heads or tails from the results! LOL

How long should I wait after I finish the Cipro/Diflucan run to do the NutrEval

test in your opinion?

BTW,....that is all I am looking for is your opinion since you deal with all of

this. I will certainly verify it with my own FM doc and pass on your link. I

really think he might be interested in that.

Thanks again for your valued input, and i will now leave you to have a great

day!

>

> I would run the nutra eval test which took me over 2 years to read first to

identify the imbalances. Uf you start going after one thing it can aggravate

something that is the underlying cause such as mercury. This is where experience

comes in from dealing with this complex medical puzzles. I have seen cases that

have stumped some of the top dr's. Once you start to dig looking at the entire

picture then you will start to connect the dots resulting in light bulbs going

on. I have ran into cases where a simple genetic mutation was the cause of whole

families health and mental disorder in austrailia which was potential triggered

by excessive expsoure to Electromagnetic fields because they lived right down

the street from a power plant. Like I said I have seen it all !!

>

[Guest guest]

If you want I do health consulting with open minded drs so it may be something

that you want to consider. I am not a dr, but have knowlege in areas only a few

drs are aware of. What I would do is to provide you and your dr with research,

past cases, suggestions on what to address, how to potentially go about it, may

be some supplement recommendation that may be relevant. He is the one to make

the final decision. I have had drs that have all the data but do not know what

it do with it. I have spent up to 2-3 weeks working on specific cases due to the

complexity. There have been other times to where I come back to the dr giving

the benefit of the doubt to the patient to best of my ability with long medical

justification for how they feel. Usually in these cases I sugggest sending them

out for psychiatric evaluation resulting in some form of clincal depression.

> >

> > I would run the nutra eval test which took me over 2 years to read first to

identify the imbalances. Uf you start going after one thing it can aggravate

something that is the underlying cause such as mercury. This is where experience

comes in from dealing with this complex medical puzzles. I have seen cases that

have stumped some of the top dr's. Once you start to dig looking at the entire

picture then you will start to connect the dots resulting in light bulbs going

on. I have ran into cases where a simple genetic mutation was the cause of whole

families health and mental disorder in austrailia which was potential triggered

by excessive expsoure to Electromagnetic fields because they lived right down

the street from a power plant. Like I said I have seen it all !!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I certainly understand your liability in responding to questions like mine. I

will just ask the doc how long to wait after the Cipro/Diflucan to do the

NutrEval test.

How would I get in contact with you, as I have read a lot of your posts and

believe you are pretty darn intelligent. Granted I think I finally found a good

doc, but having contacts is always a good thing. He is also the type that would

work with someone else I believe.

I think I am a fairly simple case,.....there is no depression or anything else

of the psychiatric nature going on with me. Shoot me your e-mail if you don't

mind. I will put it next to your name and the link to that site you posted.

Have a great evening.

>

> If you want I do health consulting with open minded drs so it may be something

that you want to consider. I am not a dr, but have knowlege in areas only a few

drs are aware of. What I would do is to provide you and your dr with research,

past cases, suggestions on what to address, how to potentially go about it, may

be some supplement recommendation that may be relevant. He is the one to make

the final decision. I have had drs that have all the data but do not know what

it do with it. I have spent up to 2-3 weeks working on specific cases due to the

complexity. There have been other times to where I come back to the dr giving

the benefit of the doubt to the patient to best of my ability with long medical

justification for how they feel. Usually in these cases I sugggest sending them

out for psychiatric evaluation resulting in some form of clincal depression.

>

[Guest guest]

The wash out peroid for testing after antibiotics is 2 weeks when retesting on

stool sample test or urine test. you need to stop supplements 4-5 days prior and

keep on meds that are necesary.

Some times probiotics will not stick to an inflammed wall and removeal of the

inflammation such as food allergies supporting adrenals may be the first step

before using antibiotics. Once antibioics i repair the inner terrain with a

specific protocol I have found very effective for inflammed wall. This way i

like nutra eval first to see just how inflammed the wall and how nutrient

defieinct the person is, as well as potential heavy metals. You have heavymetals

all antibiotics will not help beacuse the heavy metal will make it almost

impossible to get rid of them. One can have a biofilm where parasites,

bacteria, secrete a protective membrane around them resulting in heavy metals

going deeper in tissue. One has to remove this layer before true removal

begins.

> >

> > If you want I do health consulting with open minded drs so it may be

something that you want to consider. I am not a dr, but have knowlege in areas

only a few drs are aware of. What I would do is to provide you and your dr with

research, past cases, suggestions on what to address, how to potentially go

about it, may be some supplement recommendation that may be relevant. He is the

one to make the final decision. I have had drs that have all the data but do

not know what it do with it. I have spent up to 2-3 weeks working on specific

cases due to the complexity. There have been other times to where I come back

to the dr giving the benefit of the doubt to the patient to best of my ability

with long medical justification for how they feel. Usually in these cases I

sugggest sending them out for psychiatric evaluation resulting in some form of

clincal depression.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

FYI - I took cipro for about 6 months and over the last year I have sprained my

foot, my right hand, my left and right knee, my left shoulder and have been down

in my back about 4 times. I was told that cipro could damage your ligaments and

cause all of these problems and could take up to a year to have the damage

reversed after stopping the meds.

Thanks much for your input.

Fortunately I qualify for the 'Pay Assured' program for that NutrEval test. I

have to send them 169 dollars I believe, and then they TRY to collect from my

insurance company. If they can't I don't owe them anything else.

I have read that test is really expensive if you do not qualify for the

above,......as in 1K plus.

It is a huge screening, both urine and blood/plasma as you know.

I surely will not be able to make heads or tails from the results! LOL

How long should I wait after I finish the Cipro/Diflucan run to do the NutrEval

test in your opinion?

BTW,....that is all I am looking for is your opinion since you deal with all of

this. I will certainly verify it with my own FM doc and pass on your link. I

really think he might be interested in that.

Thanks again for your valued input, and i will now leave you to have a great

day!

>

> I would run the nutra eval test which took me over 2 years to read first to

identify the imbalances. Uf you start going after one thing it can aggravate

something that is the underlying cause such as mercury. This is where experience

comes in from dealing with this complex medical puzzles. I have seen cases that

have stumped some of the top dr's. Once you start to dig looking at the entire

picture then you will start to connect the dots resulting in light bulbs going

on. I have ran into cases where a simple genetic mutation was the cause of whole

families health and mental disorder in austrailia which was potential triggered

by excessive expsoure to Electromagnetic fields because they lived right down

the street from a power plant. Like I said I have seen it all !!

>

[Guest guest]

BTW,.....my vitamin D and B-12 levels I wrote of before came from blood tests

done separately.

My problems all started about a year ago,...prior to that, no known food

allergy. I could eat anything/everything per se with no issues. Of course as I

said before I have been on Nexium 'cycling' for close to 5 years. I am going to

attempt a titration off of the PPI after the drugs for the stomach.

Heavy metals are a tough one for me to assess. I have zero fillings in my teeth,

and where I live we have what I would call fairly clean air. I do work in a

TRADE though that involves going to industrial locations from time to time. I

have been self-employed for 19 years now.

I will try to contact you through this site if I would like to do a paid

consult. Once again,...if you want, send me your e-mail address, and I will file

it. I can understand your hesitation though.

5,000 e-mails from people wanting free advice!

Thanks once more.

>

> The wash out peroid for testing after antibiotics is 2 weeks when retesting on

stool sample test or urine test. you need to stop supplements 4-5 days prior and

keep on meds that are necesary.

> Some times probiotics will not stick to an inflammed wall and removeal of the

inflammation such as food allergies supporting adrenals may be the first step

before using antibiotics. Once antibioics i repair the inner terrain with a

specific protocol I have found very effective for inflammed wall. This way i

like nutra eval first to see just how inflammed the wall and how nutrient

defieinct the person is, as well as potential heavy metals. You have heavymetals

all antibiotics will not help beacuse the heavy metal will make it almost

impossible to get rid of them. One can have a biofilm where parasites,

bacteria, secrete a protective membrane around them resulting in heavy metals

going deeper in tissue. One has to remove this layer before true removal

begins.

>

[Guest guest]

instead of damaging your ligamnets it probably wrecked havoc on your gut which

is directly tied into your immune system. I have had cases of people with

excessive joint pain which reside when the gut was properly attended to. The

liver can also have a huge impact on this as well because sam-e is used to make

glucosamine which helps the joints deal with inflammation. I would love to see

how your absorption of nutrients is in your intestines. Alot of essential fats

help with handling proper inflammation. If there is nutrient malabsorption or

intestinal imbalance then your body can not properly repair it self. No other dr

would have ever came up with this approach, but in clincal experience healing

the gut removing the inflamamtion helped reduce joint and skin issues.

>

> FYI - I took cipro for about 6 months and over the last year I have sprained

my foot, my right hand, my left and right knee, my left shoulder and have been

down in my back about 4 times. I was told that cipro could damage your ligaments

and cause all of these problems and could take up to a year to have the damage

reversed after stopping the meds.

>

>

>

>

> Thanks much for your input.

> Fortunately I qualify for the 'Pay Assured' program for that NutrEval test. I

have to send them 169 dollars I believe, and then they TRY to collect from my

insurance company. If they can't I don't owe them anything else.

>

> I have read that test is really expensive if you do not qualify for the

above,......as in 1K plus.

>

> It is a huge screening, both urine and blood/plasma as you know.

> I surely will not be able to make heads or tails from the results! LOL

>

> How long should I wait after I finish the Cipro/Diflucan run to do the

NutrEval test in your opinion?

> BTW,....that is all I am looking for is your opinion since you deal with all

of this. I will certainly verify it with my own FM doc and pass on your link. I

really think he might be interested in that.

>

> Thanks again for your valued input, and i will now leave you to have a great

day!

>

> >

> > I would run the nutra eval test which took me over 2 years to read first to

identify the imbalances. Uf you start going after one thing it can aggravate

something that is the underlying cause such as mercury. This is where experience

comes in from dealing with this complex medical puzzles. I have seen cases that

have stumped some of the top dr's. Once you start to dig looking at the entire

picture then you will start to connect the dots resulting in light bulbs going

on. I have ran into cases where a simple genetic mutation was the cause of whole

families health and mental disorder in austrailia which was potential triggered

by excessive expsoure to Electromagnetic fields because they lived right down

the street from a power plant. Like I said I have seen it all !!

> >

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[Guest guest]

It's the garlic you can buy this it does not come up on you and you don't smell

like garlic.

http://www.myvitanet.com/garlinase-4000-100-tab-enzymatic-therapy.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <gibcast@...>

> Subject: HCT

> " " < >

> Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

> Today my HCT was 46 fasting at 11 am

> 1 hr after wakeup which is a good value while on TRT.

>

> But why isnt it higher like it normally is? I drank 500 ml

> water before the test, but I always do that. And I got a 50

> last time I checked HCT about 1 week ago.

>

> Phil, can higher E2 levels make Testosterone less effectoce

> thus lowering HCT? Or does all the garlic I am eating daily

> now due to my sinus infection actually help lowering HCT?

>

>

>

> Sendt fra min iPhone

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Seriously? Is garlic that powerful? I've had like 1 lil piece daily for a week.

Why dont all men on TRT use garlic? Oh, and isnt fresh garlic better than

capsules?

Sendt fra min iPhone

Den 5. apr. 2011 kl. 18.21 skrev philip georgian <pmgamer18@...>:

It's the garlic you can buy this it does not come up on you and you don't smell

like garlic.

http://www.myvitanet.com/garlinase-4000-100-tab-enzymatic-therapy.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: <gibcast@...>

> Subject: HCT

> " " < >

> Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

> Today my HCT was 46 fasting at 11 am

> 1 hr after wakeup which is a good value while on TRT.

>

> But why isnt it higher like it normally is? I drank 500 ml

> water before the test, but I always do that. And I got a 50

> last time I checked HCT about 1 week ago.

>

> Phil, can higher E2 levels make Testosterone less effectoce

> thus lowering HCT? Or does all the garlic I am eating daily

> now due to my sinus infection actually help lowering HCT?

>

>

>

> Sendt fra min iPhone

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes fresh is better but you need to eat a clove a day.

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> > From: <gibcast@...>

> > Subject: HCT

> > " "

> < >

> > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

> > Today my HCT was 46 fasting at 11 am

> > 1 hr after wakeup which is a good value while on TRT.

> >

> > But why isnt it higher like it normally is? I drank

> 500 ml

> > water before the test, but I always do that. And I got

> a 50

> > last time I checked HCT about 1 week ago.

> >

> > Phil, can higher E2 levels make Testosterone less

> effectoce

> > thus lowering HCT? Or does all the garlic I am eating

> daily

> > now due to my sinus infection actually help lowering

> HCT?

> >

> >

> >

> > Sendt fra min iPhone

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I wish I knew.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> >

> > > From: <gibcast@...>

> > > Subject: HCT

> > > " "

> > < >

> > > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 11:53 AM

> > > Today my HCT was 46 fasting at 11 am

> > > 1 hr after wakeup which is a good value while on

> TRT.

> > >

> > > But why isnt it higher like it normally is? I

> drank

> > 500 ml

> > > water before the test, but I always do that. And

> I got

> > a 50

> > > last time I checked HCT about 1 week ago.

> > >

> > > Phil, can higher E2 levels make Testosterone

> less

> > effectoce

> > > thus lowering HCT? Or does all the garlic I am

> eating

> > daily

> > > now due to my sinus infection actually help

> lowering

> > HCT?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Sendt fra min iPhone

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >