Re: Finally have some answers!!!!!

[Guest guest]

See, all of that worry for nothing.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Marc M <MisterX225@...> wrote:

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>

>

> Mark,

>

> You are right, I do need to calm down. The brain is a powerful tool.

>

> Just got off the phone with Dr. Crisler. My T is fantastic but I am hyper

> excreting it.

>

> My DHT is high and so is my cortisol.

>

> I can't disclose my treatment.

>

> But I'm happy to finally have some answers.

>

> Hopefully, my new treatment will work.

>

> Thx All and Be Well!

>

> - Marc

>

>

> >

> > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let him do his thing.

> >

> > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full of anxiety that you can't

> relax and let it go for awhile. Things will work out, but it may take a

> little time to get in balance.

> >

> > If I can wait to do things the right way, you can also! )

> >

>

>

>

--

Mike

[Guest guest]

Great news,.......at least you know what is taking place now.

No need to disclose treatment.

Get well soon! )

PS: The only time I tested cortisol I was at the upper limit of the

range,.....within a tenth of going high.

> >

> > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let him do his thing.

> >

> > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full of anxiety that you can't relax

and let it go for awhile. Things will work out, but it may take a little time to

get in balance.

> >

> > If I can wait to do things the right way, you can also! )

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yup, i can't wait to start treatment.

He did mention, I have one of the strangest cases he has ever seen.

Marco

> > >

> > > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let him do his thing.

> > >

> > > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full of anxiety that you can't

relax and let it go for awhile. Things will work out, but it may take a little

time to get in balance.

> > >

> > > If I can wait to do things the right way, you can also! )

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Great I know about your problem it's rare but happens now I pray you feel better

fast.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Marc M <MisterX225@...>

> Subject: Finally have some answers!!!!!

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 3:46 PM

>

> Mark,

>

> You are right, I do need to calm down.  The brain is a

> powerful tool.

>

> Just got off the phone with Dr. Crisler.  My T is

> fantastic but I am hyper excreting it.

>

> My DHT is high and so is my cortisol. 

>

> I can't disclose my treatment. 

>

> But I'm happy to finally have some answers. 

>

> Hopefully, my new treatment will work.

>

> Thx All and Be Well!

>

> - Marc

>

>

>

> >

> > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let him do his

> thing.

> >

> > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full of

> anxiety that you can't relax and let it go for awhile.

> Things will work out, but it may take a little time to get

> in balance.

> >

> > If I can wait to do things the right way, you can

> also! )

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

The body is a funny thing it dose something different to every bad hormone in

your body. When one is off the rest of your body takes from the others to try

and fix this. For most of us it is this taking that makes us feel sick.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Marc M <MisterX225@...>

> Subject: Re: Finally have some answers!!!!!

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 5:07 PM

>

> Yup, i can't wait to start treatment.

>

> He did mention, I have one of the strangest cases he has

> ever seen. 

>

> Marco

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > > > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let

> him do his thing.

> > > >

> > > > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full

> of anxiety that you can't relax and let it go for awhile.

> Things will work out, but it may take a little time to get

> in balance.

> > > >

> > > > If I can wait to do things the right way,

> you can also! )

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Phil,

What have you heard before about this?

Thank you,

Marco

> > >

> > > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let him do his

> > thing.

> > >

> > > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full of

> > anxiety that you can't relax and let it go for awhile.

> > Things will work out, but it may take a little time to get

> > in balance.

> > >

> > > If I can wait to do things the right way, you can

> > also! )

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

It's rare but happens with time and the right treatment you will do great. I am

not up on how it was treated but I did talk to men with this problem and they

got better.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Marc M <MisterX225@...>

> Subject: Re: Finally have some answers!!!!!

>

> Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 7:53 PM

>

> Phil,

>

> What have you heard before about this?

>

> Thank you,

>

> Marco

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > > > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let

> him do his

> > > thing.

> > > >

> > > > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full

> of

> > > anxiety that you can't relax and let it go for

> awhile.

> > > Things will work out, but it may take a little

> time to get

> > > in balance.

> > > >

> > > > If I can wait to do things the right way,

> you can

> > > also! )

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Phil are you referring to the hyper excretion of T or the high cortisol?

Thx

Marco

> > > > >

> > > > > Marc,.....try to chill out my friend!

> > > > > You spent the money to see Crisler, now let

> > him do his

> > > > thing.

> > > > >

> > > > > Part of your problem IMHO is you are so full

> > of

> > > > anxiety that you can't relax and let it go for

> > awhile.

> > > > Things will work out, but it may take a little

> > time to get

> > > > in balance.

> > > > >

> > > > > If I can wait to do things the right way,

> > you can

> > > > also! )

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------------------------------

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Hyper excretion of T, I due this but with T meds some men test in the morning

get good levels but by the mid day they have used it all up not on T meds. How

you treat this I have not Idea. High cortisol is the first stage of Adrenal

Fatigue here is link showing the stages.

If you catch this in the first stages it can be treated easy it's people in the

later stages that had this problem for yrs that might need to be on HC meds for

life.

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/ASI%201%20.html

And this one shows you a pitcure of it.

http://www.chronicfatigue.org/Selye%20large.html

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Marc M <MisterX225@...>

> Subject: Re: Finally have some answers!!!!!

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 10:33 AM

>

> Phil are you referring to the hyper excretion of T or the

> high cortisol?

>

> Thx

>

> Marco

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Marc,.....try to chill out my

> friend!

> > > > > > You spent the money to see

> Crisler, now let

> > > him do his

> > > > > thing.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Part of your problem IMHO is you

> are so full

> > > of

> > > > > anxiety that you can't relax and let it

> go for

> > > awhile.

> > > > > Things will work out, but it may take a

> little

> > > time to get

> > > > > in balance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If I can wait to do things the

> right way,

> > > you can

> > > > > also! )

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Phil,

Thx for the info.

It was very helpful.

I am not on T meds, I am doing this with my natural T which is quite high.

My LH seems to be creeping up too. You think this is also an indicator? Also

DHEA is high and DHT. Do you think my body is trying to compensate for the loss

of the T?

Thx

Marc

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Marc,.....try to chill out my

> > friend!

> > > > > > > You spent the money to see

> > Crisler, now let

> > > > him do his

> > > > > > thing.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Part of your problem IMHO is you

> > are so full

> > > > of

> > > > > > anxiety that you can't relax and let it

> > go for

> > > > awhile.

> > > > > > Things will work out, but it may take a

> > little

> > > > time to get

> > > > > > in balance.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If I can wait to do things the

> > right way,

> > > > you can

> > > > > > also! )

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ------------------------------------

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yes when you did the things you did it mixed things up and it can take some

treatment and time to get back to normal. Some times a good Dr. can fool the

body to do this go back to normal.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Marc M <MisterX225@...>

> Subject: Re: Finally have some answers!!!!!

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 1:09 PM

>

> Phil,

>

> Thx for the info.

>

> It was very helpful.

>

> I am not on T meds, I am doing this with my natural T which

> is quite high. 

>

> My LH seems to be creeping up too.  You think this is

> also an indicator?  Also DHEA is high and DHT.  Do

> you think my body is trying to compensate for the loss of

> the T?

>

> Thx

>

> Marc

>

>

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Marc,.....try to chill

> out my

> > > friend!

> > > > > > > > You spent the money to

> see

> > > Crisler, now let

> > > > > him do his

> > > > > > > thing.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Part of your problem

> IMHO is you

> > > are so full

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > anxiety that you can't relax

> and let it

> > > go for

> > > > > awhile.

> > > > > > > Things will work out, but it

> may take a

> > > little

> > > > > time to get

> > > > > > > in balance.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If I can wait to do

> things the

> > > right way,

> > > > > you can

> > > > > > > also! )

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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