Re: Natural T boosters

[Guest guest]

Hi Shaun,

A personal trainer at my gym told me that during strength training/weight

lifting, it is possible to stimulate growth hormone production. To do so,

increase the weight and do no more than five reps at a time. I myself was

lifting three sets of eight reps, but have now shifted to three sets of five

reps. If I were doing it the way I was before, there would have been no way

I could have gotten twenty-four reps completed.

I'm not sure how long it takes to reach an optimum level, but this is at

least a start.

.

[Guest guest]

Shaun why did your Dr. take you off TRT I feel this is crimanl and charges

should be brought agenst him.

One can't start on TRT then stop it when your brain sees the added Testosterone

in your blood from TRT it shuts down sending the LH and FSH message to your

testis and they stop making Testosterone.

Your not going to feel better on supplements and until you get a better Dr. and

back on TRT don't work out or over do anything.

Is this a new Dr. an Endo they do crap like this pull men off TRT to do what

they call Base Line labs there is no such thing I know been taken off TRT 7

times each time by some Endo a Dr. sent me to see because I was not feeling 100%

on TRT.

Dr.'s Endo's told me I am Primary and each time to took me off TRT all they

found out was how sick they made me. And each time they did this it took me

longer to get back going back on TRT. And they still got it wrong I am not

Primary I am Secondary.

Read my story at this link.

http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Shaun <shaunskel@...>

> Subject: Natural T boosters

>

> Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 10:02 AM

> Hi can anyone give me more info on

> natural t boosters. Personal experience etc. My doc took me

> off t cold turkey, I dont feel horrible but I can definatley

> tell a difference. Also, any other ways to naturally boot t

> would help. I remember reading something about doing certain

> thins ie deadlifts, power cleans etc. Any food do it? Thanks

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Working out with low Testosterone levels is nuts your body needs Testosterone to

support your joints and muscles all your doing is damage working out with low

levels of T. And Growth Hormone takes a hit when your Testosterone levels are

low. All working out is going to do is harm until you get on treatment and

leveled off.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: Camp <cabaretic@...>

> Subject: Re: Natural T boosters

>

> Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 10:28 AM

> Hi Shaun,

>

> A personal trainer at my gym told me that during strength

> training/weight

> lifting, it is possible to stimulate growth hormone

> production.  To do so,

> increase the weight and do no more than five reps at a

> time.  I myself was

> lifting three sets of eight reps, but have now shifted to

> three sets of five

> reps.  If I were doing it the way I was before, there

> would have been no way

> I could have gotten twenty-four reps completed.

>

> I'm not sure how long it takes to reach an optimum level,

> but this is at

> least a start.

>

> .

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Like Phil, I don't think a supplement will help your predicament much.

That aside, I wanted to share my experience with supplements.

In the early 90's, a few articles came out about Boron and how it boosts T. A

lot has come out after that to refute the claim, so it's questionable.

However, I was using Twinlab 3mg boron capsules 1 daily and was working out

hard. I had remarkable gains in strength and muscle size.

Again - all anecdotal, but just thought it was worth sharing.

>

> Hi can anyone give me more info on natural t boosters. Personal experience

etc. My doc took me off t cold turkey, I dont feel horrible but I can definatley

tell a difference. Also, any other ways to naturally boot t would help. I

remember reading something about doing certain thins ie deadlifts, power cleans

etc. Any food do it? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Why di dyour doc take you off T cold turkey??

> >

> > Hi can anyone give me more info on natural t boosters. Personal experience

etc. My doc took me off t cold turkey, I dont feel horrible but I can definatley

tell a difference. Also, any other ways to naturally boot t would help. I

remember reading something about doing certain thins ie deadlifts, power cleans

etc. Any food do it? Thanks

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Email sent before I was finished....

Continuing...

My diet I want to be more paleo (meat, vegetables, fruits, berries, and

nuts) centered but with a focus on alkaline (pH) as well. If your body

is not alkaline (~7.35) all types of things can go wrong, so far I hover

around high 5's or 6's in the AM, I have a long ways to go, I need more

vegetables as they are highly alkaline.

In terms of exercise, T can be boosted by doing:

* HIIT - This is very short but very intense intervals followed by a

rest period and then another intense interval. I am not talking

about a " hard " interval, I am talking about a intense interval,

for example here is a HIIT routine I did yesterday:

http://mattjon332.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/health-habits-workout-day-18/

A word of warning, this is not something to jump into full steam,

I suggest you have very large rest periods between intervals and

limit the intervals at the start. My first HIIT session I did 5

minutes, I nearly blacked out, was shaky and tired for the next

30min after, now as you can see I have came a long ways! I have

read that after a HIIT session T can be boosted by 30-40%, and

IMHO you can get more fitness faster this way then doing very long

duration cardio (unless your ultimate goal is a long duration

cardio event such as marathon).

* HIRT - This is like HIIT but with resistance training.

* Lifting heavy weights - Lifting heavy seems to cause more T

production, a focus on the lower body (because its larger muscles)

can raise T for the entire body. Meaning working the lower body

may actually boost any results you will get up top.

* Rest and recovery - You want to get good workouts, but you have to

rest, if your feeling run down its time to back off. Your muscles

grow/get stronger when you rest so make sure you have plenty of rest.

* Don't workout for more then a hour or so at at time - Unless your

training for an endurance event, you don't need to workout that

long at a single session as you will start to overly stress your body.

These are just my thoughts on the matter, take them for what they are

worth. I have not fixed my T yet that I know of, but I am working

towards it. After the beginning of the year when things settle down

more I am going to try to get more labs done and see where I am at.

BR//Matt

On 12/2/2010 5:47 PM, Matt wrote:

> ,

>

> I am in a similar situation, I am 32 years old and have low T and I

> want to try all I can to naturally correct this issue. My T was

> around 260 in my two tests I had, and around 350 on 2.5g of Androgel.

> I then went on 5g for a couple of weeks and then 10g for a couple of

> weeks, to be honest I never really could tell the difference from

> 2.5g. My symptoms are more emotional/mental, some depression and lack

> of confidence, and I am overweight but physically I am really fit and

> strong. For example I don't know how it works, but I have added a lot

> of strength (and I believe muscle) in the past month with exercise, I

> have also added a lot of cardio fitness and I workout really hard

> which has improved this cardio fitness. I really don't understand it

> as I am only 5'8 " and train martial arts and parts of that is things

> like grappling, I am overall stronger then most people I have met that

> is the same size as me and I don't have much issues grappling much

> larger guys who should be a lot stronger then me, all with low T.

>

> I have not found any natural T boosters that seem to be the silver

> bullet, I have had some that seem to help a few days but then fades

> away. I think there may be some help out there with natural T

> boosters, but I can't say what will help at this time.

>

> My new focus to attempting to cure my low T naturally is based around

> trying to lower my stress along with diet/eating structure, along with

> keeping up my fitness. These are the three key areas I think that can

> impact T, and all other hormones. I'll go into more detail:

>

> First, my job is very stressful, I seem to be putting in up to

> 70-80hrs some weeks and these are intermittent hours, meaning working

> nights, days, and sometimes evenings so my sleep schedule and

> everything else gets thrown out of whack. Even more tame weeks of

> 50hrs usually have some of this intermittent feel to them, and there

> are times when I am on call where things have been insane, such as

> working 30 out of 36hrs. Granted its not like this ALL the time, but

> even if you have a " down " week you are just really catching up to a

> normal level of stress only to be hit with another high stress week

> next week.

>

> In all honesty, I think this is most likely my #1 reason for my low T,

> and that is just the stress I am encased in daily. What I am doing to

> combat this:

>

> * Pushing back, and taking every chance I can to ignore work, I

> was keeping my phone next to me all hours of the day and now I don't

> * Looking for a new job, I think ideally the only solution for me

> is to move to a different position, working normal hours and

> without being on call, but you know how the job market has been

> * I need to find a good doctor to work with but I have not found

> one here in Kansas City area yet, I also need to run cortisol

> tests as I suspect they will point me in the right direction.

>

> Second my eating structure has changed, many will think its crazy but

> I have switched to a intermittent fasting diet. I have 16hrs of the

> day I fast, and 8hrs I can eat, its really not as bad as it sounds and

> I feel so much better eating this way then I did when I was eating 6

> times a day. I am overweight and love food, what worse combination

> can you have then trying to eat something every few hours a day to get

> in your 6 meals??? Its like telling an alcoholic he has to drink to

> live, and needs to drink a 1/2 beer every 3hrs but is not to binge on

> beer. I like this way of eating because:

>

> * This structure has put up a firewall between me and food, I

> realize now how much I was eating when I really didn't need it

> * I have lost 10lbs so far in the past month on this eating routine.

> * My workouts have been fantastic, I feel so much better working

> out in a fasted state vs fed state, sounds strange but its true

> * I am more alert and have a balanced feeling throughout the day,

> I don't have roller coaster ups and downs, and I get more things

> done

>

> In addition to this, I have tried to switch to eating a more Paleo

> type way of eating, but so far I have been unsuccessful mainly because

> of my work schedule (I got sent to Vancouver Canada for 2 weeks, its

> heavily Chinese influenced so try to eat Paleo with all that rice and

> noodles abound is difficult, and I could not find a salad bar to save my

>

> On 12/1/2010 9:28 AM, Camp wrote:

>>

>> Hi Shaun,

>>

>> A personal trainer at my gym told me that during strength training/weight

>> lifting, it is possible to stimulate growth hormone production. To do so,

>> increase the weight and do no more than five reps at a time. I myself was

>> lifting three sets of eight reps, but have now shifted to three sets

>> of five

>> reps. If I were doing it the way I was before, there would have been

>> no way

>> I could have gotten twenty-four reps completed.

>>

>> I'm not sure how long it takes to reach an optimum level, but this is at

>> least a start.

>>

>> .

>>

>>