Re: Anastrozole vs Arimidex

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If you are over 65, can't you apply for a Medicare prescription plan? Or maybe

there are other low cost med plans that helps retiree's...

Anastrozole vs Arimidex

My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to use generic Drugs. If I

don't I end up paying more for them at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not

using my BCBS.

So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I have to order HC the generic.

I find this dose not work as good as Cortef.

Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex with Arimidex I keep my levels

down taking .25 mgs / day on the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep

my Estraidol levels down.

Every yr. being retired I am paying more for less at this rate I will need food

stamps to eat.

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Have you tried pharmacychecker.com? I found Cortef from a Canadian pharmacy for

MUCH less than I pay with insurance in the States. You just fax your script.

--Irene

>

> If you are over 65, can't you apply for a Medicare prescription plan? Or

maybe there are other low cost med plans that helps retiree's...

>

> Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

>

> My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to use generic Drugs. If I

don't I end up paying more for them at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not

using my BCBS.

>

> So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I have to order HC the

generic. I find this dose not work as good as Cortef.

>

> Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex with Arimidex I keep my levels

down taking .25 mgs / day on the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep

my Estraidol levels down.

>

> Every yr. being retired I am paying more for less at this rate I will need

food stamps to eat.

>

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If I did it would cost me more money of all the meds I am on it's the Hormone

meds I am having a hard time with. Medco is a good plain for getting drugs it's

the Co. I work for that keeps changing the plain.

At Dr. 's forum Medco turned down a script for 100 mgs of Test C / week, HCG

and Anastrozole. Now to me it looks like this guy that sent this letter to Dr.

is breaking the law not filling this script. Read for your self here is a

cut and paste of the letter. All this time meds they turned down I am on and

this just sent me them.

This is the crap big Health is pulling.

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meoco'.

Januar3y, 2011

Dr. Crisler

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Dear Dr. Crisler,

Re: Prescription

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Phil

> From: UU <uu1845@...>

> Subject: RE: Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

> Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 11:47 PM

> If you are over 65, can't you apply

> for a  Medicare prescription plan? Or maybe there are

> other low cost med plans that helps retiree's... 

>

> Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

>

> My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to use

> generic Drugs. If I don't I end up paying more for them at

> Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not using my BCBS.

>

> So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I have to

> order HC the generic. I find this dose not work as good as

> Cortef.

>

> Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex with

> Arimidex I keep my levels down taking .25 mgs / day on the

> Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep my Estraidol

> levels down.

>

> Every yr. being retired I am paying more for less at this

> rate I will need food stamps to eat.

>

>

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Phil,

You can try the HC from ADC. I found it to be more potent than the generic I

get at Walgreens.

>

> My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to use generic Drugs. If I

don't I end up paying more for them at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not

using my BCBS.

>

> So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I have to order HC the generic.

I find this dose not work as good as Cortef.

>

> Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex with Arimidex I keep my levels

down taking .25 mgs / day on the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep

my Estraidol levels down.

>

> Every yr. being retired I am paying more for less at this rate I will need

food stamps to eat.

>

[Guest guest]

I think I have come to a point with Estraidol problems that I need some thing

stronger. When I see my Dr. in 2 weeks I am going to ask for Aromasin 25 mg.

It seams like when I take arimidex or Anastrozole and I need to take more as

time goes on I am have a rebound effect. This med blocks Aromatase and as it

wears off by the next morning my Estradiol levels are rebounding back up on me

very fast.

Aromasin kills Aromatase this might work better just if I go to low it will take

longer to make more Aromatase. So I need to talk to guys on this see how much

they take to keep from going to low.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: S. I. <lizrbethr@...>

> Subject: Re: Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 9:46 AM

>

>

> Have you tried pharmacychecker.com? I found Cortef from a

> Canadian pharmacy for MUCH less than I pay with insurance in

> the States. You just fax your script. --Irene

>

>

> >

> > If you are over 65, can't you apply for a 

> Medicare prescription plan? Or maybe there are other low

> cost med plans that helps retiree's... 

> >

> > Anastrozole vs Arimidex

> >

> > 

> > My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to

> use generic Drugs. If I don't I end up paying more for them

> at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not using my BCBS.

> >

> >  So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I

> have to order HC the generic. I find this dose not work as

> good as Cortef.

> >

> >  Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex

> with Arimidex I keep my levels down taking .25 mgs / day on

> the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep my

> Estraidol levels down.

> >

> >  Every yr. being retired I am paying more for

> less at this rate I will need food stamps to eat.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes but what I am trying to do is to keep in my Drug Care plain money is low.

My Drug care plain pays for it.

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Phil

> From: Dave <dcbaden@...>

> Subject: Re: Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 10:18 AM

> Phil,

> You can try the HC from ADC.  I found it to be more

> potent than the generic I get at Walgreens.

>

>

> >

> > My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to

> use generic Drugs. If I don't I end up paying more for them

> at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not using my BCBS.

> >

> > So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I have

> to order HC the generic.  I find this dose not work as

> good as Cortef.

> >

> > Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex with

> Arimidex I keep my levels down taking .25 mgs / day on the

> Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep my Estraidol

> levels down.

> >

> > Every yr. being retired I am paying more for less at

> this rate I will need food stamps to eat.

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think 12.5 mgs every day should be fine. Also there is no rebound like there

is with adex which it will make it much more sparing on people.

>

> I think I have come to a point with Estraidol problems that I need some thing

stronger. When I see my Dr. in 2 weeks I am going to ask for Aromasin 25 mg.

>

> It seams like when I take arimidex or Anastrozole and I need to take more as

time goes on I am have a rebound effect. This med blocks Aromatase and as it

wears off by the next morning my Estradiol levels are rebounding back up on me

very fast.

>

> Aromasin kills Aromatase this might work better just if I go to low it will

take longer to make more Aromatase. So I need to talk to guys on this see how

much they take to keep from going to low.

>

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

[Guest guest]

If insurance does not cover hcg. We suggest ADC to them because I have used it

in the past with excellent results veriifed through blood test.

One can test HCG quantantive if they are wondering if hcg is working for them.

They can also use Pregnency kits as well

>

> Phil,

> You can try the HC from ADC. I found it to be more potent than the generic I

get at Walgreens.

[Guest guest]

I think it's unlikely anastrozole is wearing off quickly. Its half-life is 72

hours.

> > >

> > > If you are over 65, can't you apply for a 

> > Medicare prescription plan? Or maybe there are other low

> > cost med plans that helps retiree's... 

> > >

> > > Anastrozole vs Arimidex

> > >

> > > 

> > > My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to

> > use generic Drugs. If I don't I end up paying more for them

> > at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not using my BCBS.

> > >

> > >  So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I

> > have to order HC the generic. I find this dose not work as

> > good as Cortef.

> > >

> > >  Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex

> > with Arimidex I keep my levels down taking .25 mgs / day on

> > the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep my

> > Estraidol levels down.

> > >

> > >  Every yr. being retired I am paying more for

> > less at this rate I will need food stamps to eat.

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Hard this is what I was thinking I am going to give this a try. On the

Generic Arimidex I don't feel I can go to low. I am also thinking about droping

my dose of HCG from 250 IU's to 100 IU's I mixed up a new bath of Novarel and

did a shot yesterday and it kick my Estradiol levels through the roof I ended up

talking 2.5 mgs of Anastrozole to get it down. So I felt better you would think

this would have drove me down to low but I had good wood all night last night.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Re: Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 11:53 AM

> I think 12.5 mgs every day should be

> fine. Also there is no rebound like there is with adex which

> it will make it much more sparing on people.

>

>

> >

> > I think I have come to a point with Estraidol problems

> that I need some thing stronger. When I see my Dr. in 2

> weeks I am going to ask for Aromasin 25 mg.

> >

> > It seams like when I take arimidex or Anastrozole and

> I need to take more as time goes on I am have a rebound

> effect.  This med blocks Aromatase and as it wears off

> by the next morning my Estradiol levels are rebounding back

> up on me very fast.

> >

> > Aromasin kills Aromatase this might work better just

> if I go to low it will take longer to make more

> Aromatase.  So I need to talk to guys on this see how

> much they take to keep from going to low.

> >

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I am in between a rock and a hard place being in so much pain my body is eating

up my T meds and my levels are falling. So now I am doing 100 mgs every 3 days

of Test C to keep my levels in the 800's top of range 1100. If I fall below 800

I end up in more joint and muscle pain. So my body is making a ton of

Aromatase. Reading about Arimidex it states taking 1 mgs will lower your

Estraidol by 50% and taking more then 1 mgs does not lower it much more.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: wayback44 <no_reply >

> Subject: Re: Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

> Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 12:03 PM

> I think it's unlikely anastrozole is

> wearing off quickly.  Its half-life is 72 hours.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > If you are over 65, can't you apply for a 

> > > Medicare prescription plan? Or maybe there are

> other low

> > > cost med plans that helps retiree's... 

> > > >

> > > > Anastrozole vs

> Arimidex

> > > >

> > > > 

> > > > My new health care plan for the new yr. is I

> need to

> > > use generic Drugs. If I don't I end up paying

> more for them

> > > at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not using

> my BCBS.

> > > >

> > > >  So now I can't pay the higher price for

> Cortef I

> > > have to order HC the generic. I find this dose

> not work as

> > > good as Cortef.

> > > >

> > > >  Now I have Anastrozole the generic to

> Arimidex

> > > with Arimidex I keep my levels down taking .25

> mgs / day on

> > > the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep

> my

> > > Estraidol levels down.

> > > >

> > > >  Every yr. being retired I am paying more

> for

> > > less at this rate I will need food stamps to

> eat.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via

> web post

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[Guest guest]

people with unregulated liver pathways may metabolize certain drugs at a faster

rate then other. Yes it is uncommon but it can happen. The dr needs to be aware

of this possiblity and adjust accorcingly. When it comes to the human body I

have seen some pretty bizarre things occur that blew my mind !!

> > > >

> > > > If you are over 65, can't you apply for a 

> > > Medicare prescription plan? Or maybe there are other low

> > > cost med plans that helps retiree's... 

> > > >

> > > > Anastrozole vs Arimidex

> > > >

> > > > 

> > > > My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to

> > > use generic Drugs. If I don't I end up paying more for them

> > > at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not using my BCBS.

> > > >

> > > >  So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I

> > > have to order HC the generic. I find this dose not work as

> > > good as Cortef.

> > > >

> > > >  Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex

> > > with Arimidex I keep my levels down taking .25 mgs / day on

> > > the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep my

> > > Estraidol levels down.

> > > >

> > > >  Every yr. being retired I am paying more for

> > > less at this rate I will need food stamps to eat.

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

This is interesting Phil,.....I assumed that the generic was the same in terms

of action/dose per se.

I have been prescribed .5mg of compounded Anastrozole in capsules Monday and

Thursday only.

E2 levels were 52 on 13-54 scale, but no TRT on my end at this time. I am

waiting until Tuesday when I see my cardiologist to see what he thinks of this

before starting.

>

> My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to use generic Drugs. If I

don't I end up paying more for them at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not

using my BCBS.

>

> So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I have to order HC the generic.

I find this dose not work as good as Cortef.

>

> Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex with Arimidex I keep my levels

down taking .25 mgs / day on the Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep

my Estraidol levels down.

>

> Every yr. being retired I am paying more for less at this rate I will need

food stamps to eat.

>

[Guest guest]

If your not on TRT be dam careful taking Arimidex you can end up going to low

very fast. I would start out with .25 mgs and take this every 3 days read this.

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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your

to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to

make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on

your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I

went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or

how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low

until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your

night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you

get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you

can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to

cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge

razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your

levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day

after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said

>90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time

and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the

day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could

not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the

Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex

my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we

went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was

on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low

you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels

back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after

playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3

days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down

so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with

lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your

lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down

from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need

..25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this

to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading

back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets

me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: marc200134470 <cfs38@...>

> Subject: Re: Anastrozole vs Arimidex

>

> Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 11:37 AM

> This is interesting Phil,.....I

> assumed that the generic was the same in terms of

> action/dose per se.

>

> I have been prescribed .5mg of compounded Anastrozole in

> capsules Monday and Thursday only.

> E2 levels were 52 on 13-54 scale, but no TRT on my end at

> this time. I am waiting until Tuesday when I see my

> cardiologist to see what he thinks of this before starting.

>

>

> >

> > My new health care plan for the new yr. is I need to

> use generic Drugs. If I don't I end up paying more for them

> at Medco then if I went to Walgreen's not using my BCBS.

> >

> > So now I can't pay the higher price for Cortef I have

> to order HC the generic.  I find this dose not work as

> good as Cortef.

> >

> > Now I have Anastrozole the generic to Arimidex with

> Arimidex I keep my levels down taking .25 mgs / day on the

> Anastrozole I need 1 to 1.5 mgs / day to keep my Estraidol

> levels down.

> >

> > Every yr. being retired I am paying more for less at

> this rate I will need food stamps to eat.

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

My problem is he prescribed compounded 'capsules' that are filled with powder.

No way for me to cut them of course.

Hardasnails already told me I should have it in solution so I can titrate my own

dose as needed.

Wonder if I could dump the powder out and divide it in half roughly since I have

already had a scrip filled for it.

Also you have me confused,......on a previous thread you said that .5 mgs twice

a week was just about right for my level?

>

> If your not on TRT be dam careful taking Arimidex you can end up going to low

very fast. I would start out with .25 mgs and take this every 3 days read this.

[Guest guest]

when dealing with adex (depending on the quantity and purity) .5 mgs -.75 mgs is

average dosages for people that are in the upper 50's. Once the binder is added

I do not think you can just add it to a solution. I have a great compounding

pharmacy that is affordable and very knowledgable on how to make these

compounds.

> >

> > If your not on TRT be dam careful taking Arimidex you can end up going to

low very fast. I would start out with .25 mgs and take this every 3 days read

this.

>

[Guest guest]

I was referring to simply dumping the powder and dividing it in half and

basically placing it on my tongue.

Next time I will go with solution if possible.

We have a great compounding pharmacy here that can do anything,.....it all comes

down to whether my doc will re-write the scrip for a solution based med or not.

I guess they worry about the potential for a person messing with the dose that

way.

>

> when dealing with adex (depending on the quantity and purity) .5 mgs -.75 mgs

is average dosages for people that are in the upper 50's. Once the binder is

added I do not think you can just add it to a solution. I have a great

compounding pharmacy that is affordable and very knowledgable on how to make

these compounds.

[Guest guest]

Unless you have a digtial gram scale it would be impossible.

> >

> > when dealing with adex (depending on the quantity and purity) .5 mgs -.75

mgs is average dosages for people that are in the upper 50's. Once the binder is

added I do not think you can just add it to a solution. I have a great

compounding pharmacy that is affordable and very knowledgable on how to make

these compounds.

>