Re: Phil, What do think of Dr. Scally's protocol?

[Guest guest]

Greg,

I was a poster at Meso for yrs. helping men when Dr. aka SWALE ran the

forum. He got made about the owner letting men post about Steroid use and quit

the forum. I stayed on and at the time I felt it was the best forum out there.

Even Dr. nco joined wanting info from men with low T for his new book.

Then they made Scally a mod running the forum he is rude goes behind you posting

a reply trying to make you look stupid. I got sick if his crap and don't post

there much anymore.

In all the yrs I have been on TRT I only know of men with low T due to steroid

use able to come off TRT and try a jump start. Men that have Hypogonadism

stopping TRT if they are lucky will long go back to were they were before

starting TRT. And most of them were not doing good at them levels. They are

not shut down they are Primary meaning there Testis don't work or they are

Secondary meaning there Pituitary dose not work or tell there testis to make T.

The only thing I know about Scally is what others have said about him. And what

I read about how he lost his license to be a Dr.

When he came to Meso the first thing he did was to rage on Dr. and all he

does. Dr. got wind of this and they have been at each other off and on

sense.

I feel what your doing for your TRT is spot on keep it up.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> Subject: Phil, What do think of Dr. Scally's protocol?

>

> Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 6:04 PM

> Hi Phil,

> Even though Scally hasn't been practicing for a while and

> after reading crap on MesoRX I am disappointed at some of

> his posts.  I wanted to know what your thoughts on his

> protocol. (I am a former patient of his)

>

> Back then he wanted a patient to come off TRT after awhile

> and go on the following to Restore the HPTA.

>

> *2500IU of HCG every other day for 16 days.

> *Clomiphene Citrate 50mg orally 2x a day for 45 days.

> *Tamoxifen 20mg orally 1x a day dor 30 days.

>

> He would then check my FSH and LH to see if everything was

> working again and then you could go back on TRT for a while

> 6-12 months and then do the recovery protocol again.

>

> He didn't like a patient to stay on TRT indefinetely

> without taking a break and doing this protocol. 

>

> Is this good or are there better protocols? 

>

> I am with a new doctor and feeling good on 100mg twice a

> week with doing HCG the day before my shots. so far so good,

> by sex drive has finally came back. Mental clarity and my

> energy are comming around. It will take a while, but I am

> doing better.

> I use arimidex to control the estradiol, 1/4 pill 3 times a

> week.

> Thanks,

> Greg

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Phil,

After Scally got his license revoked and shut his doors I didn't know were to go

in the Houston area. I struggled every since until more Dr.'s in the area were

getting on board with TRT. This Dr. I see now seems to have it together and

agrees men need to be in the upper range to really feel good.

So your saying you don't need to completely stop TRT after awhile and then

restart using HCG, Clomphene, tamoxafin(Scally's Protocol) and then start TRT

back up. It does seem to be a lot of going back and forth.

I think I read that Dr. says it isn't neccesary as long as you use HCG to

keep the testicles working. Scally thinks it's useless to use HCG while on TRT.

Geesz!!

Thanks,

Greg

>

> > From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> > Subject: Phil, What do think of Dr. Scally's protocol?

> >

> > Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 6:04 PM

> > Hi Phil,

> > Even though Scally hasn't been practicing for a while and

> > after reading crap on MesoRX I am disappointed at some of

> > his posts.  I wanted to know what your thoughts on his

> > protocol. (I am a former patient of his)

> >

> > Back then he wanted a patient to come off TRT after awhile

> > and go on the following to Restore the HPTA.

> >

> > *2500IU of HCG every other day for 16 days.

> > *Clomiphene Citrate 50mg orally 2x a day for 45 days.

> > *Tamoxifen 20mg orally 1x a day dor 30 days.

> >

> > He would then check my FSH and LH to see if everything was

> > working again and then you could go back on TRT for a while

> > 6-12 months and then do the recovery protocol again.

> >

> > He didn't like a patient to stay on TRT indefinetely

> > without taking a break and doing this protocol. 

> >

> > Is this good or are there better protocols? 

> >

> > I am with a new doctor and feeling good on 100mg twice a

> > week with doing HCG the day before my shots. so far so good,

> > by sex drive has finally came back. Mental clarity and my

> > energy are comming around. It will take a while, but I am

> > doing better.

> > I use arimidex to control the estradiol, 1/4 pill 3 times a

> > week.

> > Thanks,

> > Greg

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dr. Scally is the kind of Dr. that I feel treated men in bodybuilding he is one

of them and worked with steroids men using steroids needed to cycle on and off

them to keep from having there hpta supression becoming permanent.

So it looks to me like he took this from what them men on Steroids needed to do

to keep from being shut down.

You can't start a mans HPTA back up if he is suffering from true Hypogonadism

all stopping will do is make them sicker if they are Primary if they are

Secondary there levels might stay up but for what they all ready have a

Pituitary Problem nothing is going to fix this.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> Subject: Re: Phil, What do think of Dr. Scally's protocol?

>

> Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:17 AM

> Thanks Phil,

> After Scally got his license revoked and shut his doors I

> didn't know were to go in the Houston area.  I

> struggled every since until more Dr.'s in the area were

> getting on board with TRT. This Dr. I see now seems to have

> it together and agrees men need to be in the upper range to

> really feel good. 

>

> So your saying you don't need to completely stop TRT after

> awhile and then restart using HCG, Clomphene,

> tamoxafin(Scally's Protocol) and then start TRT back

> up.  It does seem to be a lot of going back and forth.

> I think I read that Dr. says it isn't neccesary as

> long as you use HCG to keep the testicles working. 

> Scally thinks it's useless to use HCG while on TRT. 

> Geesz!!

>

> Thanks,

> Greg

>

>

> >

> > > From: fprappas <fprappas@...>

> > > Subject: Phil, What do think of

> Dr. Scally's protocol?

> > >

> > > Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 6:04 PM

> > > Hi Phil,

> > > Even though Scally hasn't been practicing for a

> while and

> > > after reading crap on MesoRX I am disappointed at

> some of

> > > his posts.  I wanted to know what your thoughts

> on his

> > > protocol. (I am a former patient of his)

> > >

> > > Back then he wanted a patient to come off TRT

> after awhile

> > > and go on the following to Restore the HPTA.

> > >

> > > *2500IU of HCG every other day for 16 days.

> > > *Clomiphene Citrate 50mg orally 2x a day for 45

> days.

> > > *Tamoxifen 20mg orally 1x a day dor 30 days.

> > >

> > > He would then check my FSH and LH to see if

> everything was

> > > working again and then you could go back on TRT

> for a while

> > > 6-12 months and then do the recovery protocol

> again.

> > >

> > > He didn't like a patient to stay on TRT

> indefinetely

> > > without taking a break and doing this protocol. 

>

> > >

> > > Is this good or are there better protocols? 

> > >

> > > I am with a new doctor and feeling good on 100mg

> twice a

> > > week with doing HCG the day before my shots. so

> far so good,

> > > by sex drive has finally came back. Mental

> clarity and my

> > > energy are comming around. It will take a while,

> but I am

> > > doing better.

> > > I use arimidex to control the estradiol, 1/4 pill

> 3 times a

> > > week.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Greg

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >