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Phil, you posted a few days ago that Chillin (?) said raising thyroid might help

with your estradiol, and your thyroid labs are on the low side, so his argument

does have merit. If you follow Dr. no's advice, you are low on most

counts, and looks like you could stand more T4 AND T3. The connection with the

estradiol is that the liver is the main source of estrogen clearance, and the

liver needs energy from thyroid to function well.

Your SHBG is also on the low side, and also confirms low thyroid. A higher

number, 30-40, make the testosterone last longer so you shouldn't have to inject

so often.

> TSH, 3RD Generation 2.61 range 0.40 – 4.50 mIU/L.

Should be closer to 1.0

> T4 (Thyroxine), Total 7.5 range 4.5 – 12.0 mcg/dL.

Should be between 8-12

> Free T4 Index (T7) 2.4 range 1.4 – 3.8.

Useless lab

> T4, Free 1.2 range 0.8 – 1.8 ng/dL.

He says 1.2+, Adrenal group says 1.4, most says mid-range+ which = 1.3+

> T3 Free 2.9 range 2.3 – 4.2 pg/mL.

Should be 3.4-4.2

> T3 Total 90 range 76 – 181 ng/dL.

Should be 130-180

> T3 Uptake 32 range 76 – 181 ng/dL.

Useless lab.

> RT3 pending.

Barb

>

> The following it about what my Dr. runs every 6 to 8 weeks.

> ===============================================================

> Phils Labs 01/11/2011

>

> VLDL Cholesterol 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> Triglycerides VLDL-Calculation Cholestrrol, Very Low Density Lipoprotein 37

high range <30 mg/dL (calc).

>

> Lipid Panel

> Cholesterol, Total 193 range 125 – 200 mg/dL.

> HDL Cholesterol 46 range > or = 40 mg/dL.

> Triglycerides 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> LDL – Cholesterol 110 range <130 mg/dL.

> Chol/HDLC Ratio 4.2 range < or = 5.0 (calc).

> Homocysteine Cardiovasecular 9.2 range <11.4 umo/L.

>

> Comprehensive Metabloic Panel W/eGFR

> Glucose 90 range 65 – 99 mg/dL.

> Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 25 range 7 – 25 mg/dL.

> Creatinine 1.11 range 0.76 – 1.46 mg.dL.

> eGFR NON – AFR. American >60 range > or = 60 mL/min/1.73m2.

> BUN / Creatinine Ratio Not Applicable.

> Sodum 141 range 135 – 146 mmol/L.

> Potassium 4.3 range 3.5 – 5.3 mmol/L.

> Chloride 101 range 98 – 110 mmol/L.

> Carbon Dioxide 30 range 21 – 33 mmol/L.

> Calcium 9.3 range 8.6 – 10 .2 mg/dL.

> Protein, Total 6.7 range 6.2 – 8.3 g/dL.

> Albumin 4.2 range 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL.

> Globulin 2.5 range 2.1 – 3.7 g/dL.

> Albumin/Globulin Ratio 1/7 range 1.0 – 2.1 (calc).

> Bilirubin, Total 0.9 rage 0.2 – 1.2 mg/dL.

> Alkaline Phosphatase 18 low range 40 – 115 U/L.

> AST 23 range 10 – 35 U/L.

> ALT 20 range 9 – 60 U/L.

>

> Hemoglobin A1c 5.4 range <5.7 % of total Hgb.

>

> Vitamin D, 25 – Hydroxy, LC/MS.MS.

> Vitamin D, 25 OH Total 71 range 30 – 100 ng/mL.

> Vitamin D, 25 OH, D2 <4 range ng/mL.

> Vitamin D, 25 OH, D3 71 range ng/mL.

>

> Magnesium 2.0 range 1.5 – 2.5 mg/dL.

> Phosphate (As Phosphorus) 3.8 range 2.1 – 4.3 mg/dL.

> Uric Acid 6.2 range 4.0 – 8.0 mg/dL.

> Creatine Kinase, Total 308 high range 44 – 196 U/L.

>

>

>

> Testosterone, Total 917 range 250 – 1100 ng/dL.

> Testosterone, Free 201.0 range 46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL.

> Testosterone, Bioavailable 395.9 range 110.0 to 575.0 ng/dL.

> SHBG 22 range 17 – 54 nmol/L.

> Albumin, Serum 4.3 range 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL.

> IGF Binding Protein 1 <5 range < or = 34 ng/mL.

>

> CBC (Includes Diff/Plt)

> White Blood Cell Count 6.4 range 3.8 – 10.8 Thousand/uL.

> Red Blood Cell Count 5.63 range 4.20 – 5.80 Million/uL.

> Hemoglobin 18.4 high range 13.2 – 17.1 g/dL. Note: high due to Dehydration

from low Aldosterone.

> Hematocrit 54.3 high range 38.5 – 50.0 %. Note: high due to Dehydration from

low Aldosterone.

> MCV 96.5 range 80.0 – 100.0 fL.

> MCH 32.6 range 27.0 – 33.0 pg.

> MCHC 33.8 range 32.0 – 36.0 g/dL.

> RDW 14.3 range 11.0 – 15.0 %.

> Platelet Count 144 range 140 – 400 Thousand/uL.

> PV 10.5 range 7.5 – 11.5 fL.

> Absolute Neutrophils 4813 range 1500 – 7800 cells/uL.

> Absolute Lymphocytes 1037 range 850 – 3900 cells/ul.

> Absolute Monocytes 352 range 200 – 950 cells/uL.

> Absolute Eosinophils 179 range 15 – 500 cells/uL.

> Absolute Basophils 19 range 0 – 200 cells/uL.

> Neutrophils75.2 range %.

> Lymphocytes 16.2 range %.

> Monocytes 5.5 range %.

> Eosinophils 2.8 range %.

> Basophils 0.3 range %.

>

> Iron and Total Iron Binding Capacity.

> Iron, Total 118 range 45 – 170 mcg/dL.

> Iron, Binding Capacity 326 range 250 – 425 mcg/dL.

> % Saturation 36 range 20 – 50 % (calc).

> Ferritin 330 range 20 – 380 ng/mL.

> Vitamin B12 995 range 200 – 1100 pg/mL.

> Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

>

> C-Reactive Protein 0.21 range < 0.80 mg/dL.

> Cortisol , Total 18.7 range morning 4.0 – 22.0 mcg/dL. Note: up from 12.2 six

weeks ago on Prog. Cream.

> Estradiol 8 low range 13 to 54 pg/ml Note: took 2.5 mgs of Anastrozole the day

before labs E2 levels felt very high.

>

> PSA, Total 0.9 range < or = 4.0 ng/ml.

>

> Myoglobin, Serum High 114 range 50 or less mcg/L.

>

> Pregnenolone, LC/MS/MS 262 high range 13 – 208 ng/dL. Note: I was not on

Preg. Cream 6 weeks was on Prog. Cream.

>

> Creating Kinase Isoenzymes w/o total.

> CK-MM 95 low range 97 – 100 % of Total.

> CK-MB 0 range 0 – 3 % of Total.

> CK-BB 0 range 0 % of Total.

>

> B Type Natriuretic Peptide (BNP) 23 range <100 pg/mL.

>

> Coenzyme Q10 <4.0 High range 0.44 – 1.64 mg/L.

>

> IGF-1 ECL 182 range 47 – 264 ng/mL.

>

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I was told the exact same thing from my doc concerning my low thyroid and

estrogen (estradiol). He said that my low thyroid is contributing to my

test C converting to estrogen.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Barb <baba@...> wrote:

>

>

> Phil, you posted a few days ago that Chillin (?) said raising thyroid might

> help with your estradiol, and your thyroid labs are on the low side, so his

> argument does have merit. If you follow Dr. no's advice, you are low on

> most counts, and looks like you could stand more T4 AND T3. The connection

> with the estradiol is that the liver is the main source of estrogen

> clearance, and the liver needs energy from thyroid to function well.

>

> Your SHBG is also on the low side, and also confirms low thyroid. A higher

> number, 30-40, make the testosterone last longer so you shouldn't have to

> inject so often.

>

> > TSH, 3RD Generation 2.61 range 0.40 – 4.50 mIU/L.

>

> Should be closer to 1.0

>

>

> > T4 (Thyroxine), Total 7.5 range 4.5 – 12.0 mcg/dL.

>

> Should be between 8-12

>

>

> > Free T4 Index (T7) 2.4 range 1.4 – 3.8.

>

> Useless lab

>

>

> > T4, Free 1.2 range 0.8 – 1.8 ng/dL.

>

> He says 1.2+, Adrenal group says 1.4, most says mid-range+ which = 1.3+

>

>

> > T3 Free 2.9 range 2.3 – 4.2 pg/mL.

>

> Should be 3.4-4.2

>

>

> > T3 Total 90 range 76 – 181 ng/dL.

>

> Should be 130-180

>

>

> > T3 Uptake 32 range 76 – 181 ng/dL.

>

> Useless lab.

>

> > RT3 pending.

>

> Barb

>

>

>

> >

> > The following it about what my Dr. runs every 6 to 8 weeks.

> > ===============================================================

> > Phils Labs 01/11/2011

> >

> > VLDL Cholesterol 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> > Triglycerides VLDL-Calculation Cholestrrol, Very Low Density Lipoprotein

> 37 high range <30 mg/dL (calc).

> >

> > Lipid Panel

> > Cholesterol, Total 193 range 125 – 200 mg/dL.

> > HDL Cholesterol 46 range > or = 40 mg/dL.

> > Triglycerides 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> > LDL – Cholesterol 110 range <130 mg/dL.

> > Chol/HDLC Ratio 4.2 range < or = 5.0 (calc).

> > Homocysteine Cardiovasecular 9.2 range <11.4 umo/L.

> >

> > Comprehensive Metabloic Panel W/eGFR

> > Glucose 90 range 65 – 99 mg/dL.

> > Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 25 range 7 – 25 mg/dL.

> > Creatinine 1.11 range 0.76 – 1.46 mg.dL.

> > eGFR NON – AFR. American >60 range > or = 60 mL/min/1.73m2.

> > BUN / Creatinine Ratio Not Applicable.

> > Sodum 141 range 135 – 146 mmol/L.

> > Potassium 4.3 range 3.5 – 5.3 mmol/L.

> > Chloride 101 range 98 – 110 mmol/L.

> > Carbon Dioxide 30 range 21 – 33 mmol/L.

> > Calcium 9.3 range 8.6 – 10 .2 mg/dL.

> > Protein, Total 6.7 range 6.2 – 8.3 g/dL.

> > Albumin 4.2 range 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL.

> > Globulin 2.5 range 2.1 – 3.7 g/dL.

> > Albumin/Globulin Ratio 1/7 range 1.0 – 2.1 (calc).

> > Bilirubin, Total 0.9 rage 0.2 – 1.2 mg/dL.

> > Alkaline Phosphatase 18 low range 40 – 115 U/L.

> > AST 23 range 10 – 35 U/L.

> > ALT 20 range 9 – 60 U/L.

> >

> > Hemoglobin A1c 5.4 range <5.7 % of total Hgb.

> >

> > Vitamin D, 25 – Hydroxy, LC/MS.MS.

> > Vitamin D, 25 OH Total 71 range 30 – 100 ng/mL.

> > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D2 <4 range ng/mL.

> > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D3 71 range ng/mL.

> >

> > Magnesium 2.0 range 1.5 – 2.5 mg/dL.

> > Phosphate (As Phosphorus) 3.8 range 2.1 – 4.3 mg/dL.

> > Uric Acid 6.2 range 4.0 – 8.0 mg/dL.

> > Creatine Kinase, Total 308 high range 44 – 196 U/L.

> >

> >

>

> >

> > Testosterone, Total 917 range 250 – 1100 ng/dL.

> > Testosterone, Free 201.0 range 46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL.

> > Testosterone, Bioavailable 395.9 range 110.0 to 575.0 ng/dL.

> > SHBG 22 range 17 – 54 nmol/L.

> > Albumin, Serum 4.3 range 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL.

> > IGF Binding Protein 1 <5 range < or = 34 ng/mL.

> >

> > CBC (Includes Diff/Plt)

> > White Blood Cell Count 6.4 range 3.8 – 10.8 Thousand/uL.

> > Red Blood Cell Count 5.63 range 4.20 – 5.80 Million/uL.

> > Hemoglobin 18.4 high range 13.2 – 17.1 g/dL. Note: high due to

> Dehydration from low Aldosterone.

> > Hematocrit 54.3 high range 38.5 – 50.0 %. Note: high due to Dehydration

> from low Aldosterone.

> > MCV 96.5 range 80.0 – 100.0 fL.

> > MCH 32.6 range 27.0 – 33.0 pg.

> > MCHC 33.8 range 32.0 – 36.0 g/dL.

> > RDW 14.3 range 11.0 – 15.0 %.

> > Platelet Count 144 range 140 – 400 Thousand/uL.

> > PV 10.5 range 7.5 – 11.5 fL.

> > Absolute Neutrophils 4813 range 1500 – 7800 cells/uL.

> > Absolute Lymphocytes 1037 range 850 – 3900 cells/ul.

> > Absolute Monocytes 352 range 200 – 950 cells/uL.

> > Absolute Eosinophils 179 range 15 – 500 cells/uL.

> > Absolute Basophils 19 range 0 – 200 cells/uL.

> > Neutrophils75.2 range %.

> > Lymphocytes 16.2 range %.

> > Monocytes 5.5 range %.

> > Eosinophils 2.8 range %.

> > Basophils 0.3 range %.

> >

> > Iron and Total Iron Binding Capacity.

> > Iron, Total 118 range 45 – 170 mcg/dL.

> > Iron, Binding Capacity 326 range 250 – 425 mcg/dL.

> > % Saturation 36 range 20 – 50 % (calc).

> > Ferritin 330 range 20 – 380 ng/mL.

> > Vitamin B12 995 range 200 – 1100 pg/mL.

> > Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

> >

> > C-Reactive Protein 0.21 range < 0.80 mg/dL.

> > Cortisol , Total 18.7 range morning 4.0 – 22.0 mcg/dL. Note: up from 12.2

> six weeks ago on Prog. Cream.

> > Estradiol 8 low range 13 to 54 pg/ml Note: took 2.5 mgs of Anastrozole

> the day before labs E2 levels felt very high.

> >

> > PSA, Total 0.9 range < or = 4.0 ng/ml.

> >

> > Myoglobin, Serum High 114 range 50 or less mcg/L.

> >

> > Pregnenolone, LC/MS/MS 262 high range 13 – 208 ng/dL. Note: I was not on

> Preg. Cream 6 weeks was on Prog. Cream.

> >

> > Creating Kinase Isoenzymes w/o total.

> > CK-MM 95 low range 97 – 100 % of Total.

> > CK-MB 0 range 0 – 3 % of Total.

> > CK-BB 0 range 0 % of Total.

> >

> > B Type Natriuretic Peptide (BNP) 23 range <100 pg/mL.

> >

> > Coenzyme Q10 <4.0 High range 0.44 – 1.64 mg/L.

> >

> > IGF-1 ECL 182 range 47 – 264 ng/mL.

> >

>

>

>

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I can't do more T3 I am on 5 mcgs 2x's per day Dr. gave me it for 3 x's / day

but every time I try it 3x's / day I go hyper. Being on the Preg. and Prog.

cream lowered my Thyroid levels. We talked about stopping Preg. and re doing

labs in 8 weeks.

My RT3 is high labs are not back for this and I hate this about Quest labs but

Labcorp is not any better. So if I add more T4 I am just going to push up RT3.

My Dr. said the supplements I need to take for the Statin Drug damage was having

an effect on the Prog. cream I used so I am off the creams.

I have all ways had a lower SHBG even when I was on Armour and my FT3 was at the

upper end of the range.

And when it was very high in the 50's due to high E2 levels I still needed a lot

of Testosterone I just eat it up as fast as I take it.

I think I need to go back to what I was doing before even trying HGH I did my

best then. My Thyroid was up and I did not need as much Testosterone and just

..25 mgs of Arimidex every 2 to 3 days kept my E2 in check.

As you can see my muscle enzymes have not yet returned to baseline values. Due

to statin drug damage.

So my body is in a lot of stress and I went over what Chilln said with my Dr.

and yes it's all true. But he feels with all that is on my plate we should work

on the real bad things first.

And what Chilln was saying about Preg. or Prog. cream and Cortisol levels did go

up 18.7 from 12 but did not do a thing for my estradiol levels.

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Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Re: pmgamer18 complete set of labs.

>

> Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 5:11 PM

> Phil, you posted a few days ago that

> Chillin (?) said raising thyroid might help with your

> estradiol, and your thyroid labs are on the low side, so his

> argument does have merit.  If you follow Dr. no's

> advice, you are low on most counts, and looks like you could

> stand more T4 AND T3.  The connection with the

> estradiol is that the liver is the main source of estrogen

> clearance, and the liver needs energy from thyroid to

> function well.

>

> Your SHBG is also on the low side, and also confirms low

> thyroid.  A higher number, 30-40, make the testosterone

> last longer so you shouldn't have to inject so often. 

>

>

> > TSH, 3RD Generation 2.61 range 0.40 – 4.50 mIU/L.

>

> Should be closer to 1.0

>

> > T4 (Thyroxine), Total 7.5 range 4.5 – 12.0 mcg/dL.

>

> Should be between 8-12

>

> > Free T4 Index (T7) 2.4 range 1.4 – 3.8.

>

> Useless lab

>

> > T4, Free 1.2 range 0.8 – 1.8 ng/dL.

>

> He says 1.2+, Adrenal group says 1.4, most says mid-range+

> which = 1.3+

>

> > T3 Free 2.9 range 2.3 – 4.2 pg/mL.

>

> Should be 3.4-4.2

>

> > T3 Total 90 range 76 – 181 ng/dL.

>

> Should be 130-180

>

> > T3 Uptake 32 range 76 – 181 ng/dL.

>

> Useless lab.

>

> > RT3 pending.

>

> Barb

>

>

> >

> > The following it about what my Dr. runs every 6 to 8

> weeks.

> >

> ===============================================================

> > Phils  Labs 01/11/2011

> >

> > VLDL Cholesterol 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> > Triglycerides VLDL-Calculation Cholestrrol, Very Low

> Density Lipoprotein 37 high range <30 mg/dL (calc).

> >

> > Lipid Panel

> > Cholesterol, Total 193 range 125 – 200 mg/dL.

> > HDL Cholesterol 46 range > or = 40 mg/dL.

> > Triglycerides 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> > LDL – Cholesterol 110 range <130 mg/dL.

> > Chol/HDLC Ratio 4.2 range < or = 5.0 (calc).

> > Homocysteine Cardiovasecular 9.2 range <11.4

> umo/L.

> >

> > Comprehensive Metabloic Panel W/eGFR

> > Glucose 90 range 65 – 99 mg/dL.

> > Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 25 range 7 – 25 mg/dL.

> > Creatinine 1.11 range 0.76 – 1.46 mg.dL.

> > eGFR NON – AFR. American >60 range > or = 60

> mL/min/1.73m2.

> > BUN / Creatinine Ratio Not Applicable.

> > Sodum 141 range 135 – 146 mmol/L.

> > Potassium 4.3 range 3.5 – 5.3 mmol/L.

> > Chloride 101 range 98 – 110 mmol/L.

> > Carbon Dioxide 30 range 21 – 33 mmol/L.

> > Calcium 9.3 range 8.6 – 10 .2 mg/dL.

> > Protein, Total 6.7 range  6.2 – 8.3 g/dL.

> > Albumin 4.2 range 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL.

> > Globulin 2.5 range 2.1 – 3.7 g/dL.

> > Albumin/Globulin Ratio 1/7 range 1.0 – 2.1 (calc).

> > Bilirubin, Total 0.9 rage 0.2 – 1.2 mg/dL.

> > Alkaline Phosphatase 18 low range 40 – 115 U/L.

> > AST 23 range 10 – 35 U/L.

> > ALT 20 range 9 – 60 U/L.

> >

> > Hemoglobin A1c 5.4 range <5.7 % of total Hgb.

> >

> > Vitamin D, 25 – Hydroxy, LC/MS.MS.

> > Vitamin D, 25 OH Total 71 range 30 – 100 ng/mL.

> > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D2 <4 range ng/mL.

> > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D3 71 range ng/mL.

> >

> > Magnesium 2.0 range 1.5 – 2.5 mg/dL.

> > Phosphate (As Phosphorus) 3.8 range 2.1 – 4.3

> mg/dL.

> > Uric Acid 6.2 range 4.0 – 8.0 mg/dL.

> > Creatine Kinase, Total 308 high range 44 – 196 U/L.

> >

> >

>

> >

> > Testosterone, Total 917 range 250 – 1100 ng/dL.

> > Testosterone, Free 201.0 range 46.0 – 224.0 pg/mL.

> > Testosterone, Bioavailable 395.9 range 110.0 to 575.0

> ng/dL.

> > SHBG 22 range 17 – 54 nmol/L.

> > Albumin, Serum 4.3 range 3.6 – 5.1 g/dL.

> > IGF Binding Protein 1  <5 range  < or

> = 34 ng/mL.

> >

> > CBC (Includes Diff/Plt)

> > White Blood Cell Count 6.4 range 3.8 – 10.8

> Thousand/uL.

> > Red Blood Cell Count  5.63 range 4.20 – 5.80

> Million/uL.

> > Hemoglobin 18.4 high range 13.2 – 17.1 g/dL. 

> Note: high due to Dehydration from low Aldosterone.

> > Hematocrit 54.3 high range 38.5 – 50.0 %. Note: high

> due to Dehydration from low Aldosterone.

> > MCV 96.5 range 80.0 – 100.0 fL.

> > MCH 32.6 range 27.0 – 33.0 pg.

> > MCHC 33.8 range 32.0 – 36.0 g/dL.

> > RDW 14.3 range 11.0 – 15.0 %.

> > Platelet Count 144 range 140 – 400 Thousand/uL.

> > PV 10.5 range 7.5 – 11.5 fL.

> > Absolute Neutrophils 4813 range 1500 – 7800

> cells/uL.

> > Absolute Lymphocytes 1037 range 850 – 3900

> cells/ul.

> > Absolute Monocytes 352 range 200 – 950 cells/uL.

> > Absolute Eosinophils 179 range 15 – 500 cells/uL.

> > Absolute Basophils 19 range 0 – 200 cells/uL.

> > Neutrophils75.2 range %.

> > Lymphocytes 16.2 range %.

> > Monocytes 5.5 range %.

> > Eosinophils 2.8 range %.

> > Basophils 0.3 range %.

> >

> > Iron and Total Iron Binding Capacity.

> > Iron, Total 118 range 45 – 170 mcg/dL.

> > Iron, Binding Capacity 326 range 250 – 425 mcg/dL.

> > % Saturation 36 range 20 – 50 % (calc).

> > Ferritin 330 range 20 – 380 ng/mL.

> > Vitamin B12 995 range 200 – 1100 pg/mL.

> > Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

> >

> > C-Reactive Protein 0.21 range < 0.80 mg/dL.

> > Cortisol , Total 18.7 range morning 4.0 – 22.0

> mcg/dL. Note: up from 12.2 six weeks ago on Prog. Cream.

> > Estradiol 8 low range 13 to 54 pg/ml Note: took 2.5

> mgs of Anastrozole the day before labs E2 levels felt very

> high.

> >

> > PSA, Total 0.9 range < or = 4.0 ng/ml.

> >

> > Myoglobin, Serum High 114 range 50 or less mcg/L.

> >

> > Pregnenolone, LC/MS/MS 262 high range 13 – 208

> ng/dL.  Note: I was not on Preg. Cream 6 weeks was on

> Prog. Cream.

> >

> > Creating Kinase Isoenzymes w/o total.

> > CK-MM 95 low range 97 – 100 % of Total.

> > CK-MB 0 range 0 – 3 % of Total.

> > CK-BB 0 range 0 % of Total.

> >

> > B Type Natriuretic Peptide (BNP) 23 range <100

> pg/mL.

> >

> > Coenzyme Q10 <4.0  High range 0.44 – 1.64

> mg/L.

> >

> > IGF-1 ECL 182 range 47 – 264 ng/mL.

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

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Phil, I'm sorry you've got so much on your plate. The only thing I can think of

is that you need more HC, because that's the hormone that's supposed to deal

with pain.

You cannot actually be hyper at those thyroid levels, though you could feel

hyper, which is actually an intolerance. (I have Graves', so I use the medical

definition of hyper.) That's usually caused by low cortisol or low ferritin, and

since your ferritin is way up now, I'm thinking your cortisol is too low for

your pain levels.

The thing with rT3 is it's not always from too much T4. It can also be from low

cortisol or ferritin or body stress, which yours is certainly under.

If your SHBG has always been low even with better thyroid levels, then I would

wonder if you have insulin resistance.

The observation that low cortisol causes high estrogen was made by Dr. Plechner,

a veterinarian who saw it in every single animal that had problems.

Hugs,

Barb

> > >

> > > The following it about what my Dr. runs every 6 to 8

> > weeks.

> > >

> > ===============================================================

> > > Phils  Labs 01/11/2011

> > >

> > > VLDL Cholesterol 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> > > Triglycerides VLDL-Calculation Cholestrrol, Very Low

> > Density Lipoprotein 37 high range <30 mg/dL (calc).

> > >

> > > Lipid Panel

> > > Cholesterol, Total 193 range 125 †" 200 mg/dL.

> > > HDL Cholesterol 46 range > or = 40 mg/dL.

> > > Triglycerides 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> > > LDL †" Cholesterol 110 range <130 mg/dL.

> > > Chol/HDLC Ratio 4.2 range < or = 5.0 (calc).

> > > Homocysteine Cardiovasecular 9.2 range <11.4

> > umo/L.

> > >

> > > Comprehensive Metabloic Panel W/eGFR

> > > Glucose 90 range 65 †" 99 mg/dL.

> > > Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 25 range 7 †" 25 mg/dL.

> > > Creatinine 1.11 range 0.76 †" 1.46 mg.dL.

> > > eGFR NON †" AFR. American >60 range > or = 60

> > mL/min/1.73m2.

> > > BUN / Creatinine Ratio Not Applicable.

> > > Sodum 141 range 135 †" 146 mmol/L.

> > > Potassium 4.3 range 3.5 †" 5.3 mmol/L.

> > > Chloride 101 range 98 †" 110 mmol/L.

> > > Carbon Dioxide 30 range 21 †" 33 mmol/L.

> > > Calcium 9.3 range 8.6 †" 10 .2 mg/dL.

> > > Protein, Total 6.7 range  6.2 †" 8.3 g/dL.

> > > Albumin 4.2 range 3.6 †" 5.1 g/dL.

> > > Globulin 2.5 range 2.1 †" 3.7 g/dL.

> > > Albumin/Globulin Ratio 1/7 range 1.0 †" 2.1 (calc).

> > > Bilirubin, Total 0.9 rage 0.2 †" 1.2 mg/dL.

> > > Alkaline Phosphatase 18 low range 40 †" 115 U/L.

> > > AST 23 range 10 †" 35 U/L.

> > > ALT 20 range 9 †" 60 U/L.

> > >

> > > Hemoglobin A1c 5.4 range <5.7 % of total Hgb.

> > >

> > > Vitamin D, 25 †" Hydroxy, LC/MS.MS.

> > > Vitamin D, 25 OH Total 71 range 30 †" 100 ng/mL.

> > > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D2 <4 range ng/mL.

> > > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D3 71 range ng/mL.

> > >

> > > Magnesium 2.0 range 1.5 †" 2.5 mg/dL.

> > > Phosphate (As Phosphorus) 3.8 range 2.1 †" 4.3

> > mg/dL.

> > > Uric Acid 6.2 range 4.0 †" 8.0 mg/dL.

> > > Creatine Kinase, Total 308 high range 44 †" 196 U/L.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > >

> > > Testosterone, Total 917 range 250 †" 1100 ng/dL.

> > > Testosterone, Free 201.0 range 46.0 †" 224.0 pg/mL.

> > > Testosterone, Bioavailable 395.9 range 110.0 to 575.0

> > ng/dL.

> > > SHBG 22 range 17 †" 54 nmol/L.

> > > Albumin, Serum 4.3 range 3.6 †" 5.1 g/dL.

> > > IGF Binding Protein 1  <5 range  < or

> > = 34 ng/mL.

> > >

> > > CBC (Includes Diff/Plt)

> > > White Blood Cell Count 6.4 range 3.8 †" 10.8

> > Thousand/uL.

> > > Red Blood Cell Count  5.63 range 4.20 †" 5.80

> > Million/uL.

> > > Hemoglobin 18.4 high range 13.2 †" 17.1 g/dL. 

> > Note: high due to Dehydration from low Aldosterone.

> > > Hematocrit 54.3 high range 38.5 †" 50.0 %. Note: high

> > due to Dehydration from low Aldosterone.

> > > MCV 96.5 range 80.0 †" 100.0 fL.

> > > MCH 32.6 range 27.0 †" 33.0 pg.

> > > MCHC 33.8 range 32.0 †" 36.0 g/dL.

> > > RDW 14.3 range 11.0 †" 15.0 %.

> > > Platelet Count 144 range 140 †" 400 Thousand/uL.

> > > PV 10.5 range 7.5 †" 11.5 fL.

> > > Absolute Neutrophils 4813 range 1500 †" 7800

> > cells/uL.

> > > Absolute Lymphocytes 1037 range 850 †" 3900

> > cells/ul.

> > > Absolute Monocytes 352 range 200 †" 950 cells/uL.

> > > Absolute Eosinophils 179 range 15 †" 500 cells/uL.

> > > Absolute Basophils 19 range 0 †" 200 cells/uL.

> > > Neutrophils75.2 range %.

> > > Lymphocytes 16.2 range %.

> > > Monocytes 5.5 range %.

> > > Eosinophils 2.8 range %.

> > > Basophils 0.3 range %.

> > >

> > > Iron and Total Iron Binding Capacity.

> > > Iron, Total 118 range 45 †" 170 mcg/dL.

> > > Iron, Binding Capacity 326 range 250 †" 425 mcg/dL.

> > > % Saturation 36 range 20 †" 50 % (calc).

> > > Ferritin 330 range 20 †" 380 ng/mL.

> > > Vitamin B12 995 range 200 †" 1100 pg/mL.

> > > Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

> > >

> > > C-Reactive Protein 0.21 range < 0.80 mg/dL.

> > > Cortisol , Total 18.7 range morning 4.0 †" 22.0

> > mcg/dL. Note: up from 12.2 six weeks ago on Prog. Cream.

> > > Estradiol 8 low range 13 to 54 pg/ml Note: took 2.5

> > mgs of Anastrozole the day before labs E2 levels felt very

> > high.

> > >

> > > PSA, Total 0.9 range < or = 4.0 ng/ml.

> > >

> > > Myoglobin, Serum High 114 range 50 or less mcg/L.

> > >

> > > Pregnenolone, LC/MS/MS 262 high range 13 †" 208

> > ng/dL.  Note: I was not on Preg. Cream 6 weeks was on

> > Prog. Cream.

> > >

> > > Creating Kinase Isoenzymes w/o total.

> > > CK-MM 95 low range 97 †" 100 % of Total.

> > > CK-MB 0 range 0 †" 3 % of Total.

> > > CK-BB 0 range 0 % of Total.

> > >

> > > B Type Natriuretic Peptide (BNP) 23 range <100

> > pg/mL.

> > >

> > > Coenzyme Q10 <4.0  High range 0.44 †" 1.64

> > mg/L.

> > >

> > > IGF-1 ECL 182 range 47 †" 264 ng/mL.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Yes we talked about this but we need to see what happens when my Preg. levels

come down first. Then we will see what he can do to fix this right now I am to

do my Shots at .4 mls down from .5 mls if I have feeling of high E2 I am to go

down to .3 mls on my next shot. If this helps I then go back up to .4mls. So

far this is working I did a shot yesterday at .4 mls and needed less meds for

E2. Today do far no meds for E2.

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Phil

> From: Barb <baba@...>

> Subject: Re: pmgamer18 complete set of labs.

>

> Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 11:13 AM

> Phil, I'm sorry you've got so much on

> your plate.  The only thing I can think of is that you

> need more HC, because that's the hormone that's supposed to

> deal with pain.

>

> You cannot actually be hyper at those thyroid levels,

> though you could feel hyper, which is actually an

> intolerance.  (I have Graves', so I use the medical

> definition of hyper.) That's usually caused by low cortisol

> or low ferritin, and since your ferritin is way up now, I'm

> thinking your cortisol is too low for your pain levels.

>

> The thing with rT3 is it's not always from too much

> T4.  It can also be from low cortisol or ferritin or

> body stress, which yours is certainly under. 

>

> If your SHBG has always been low even with better thyroid

> levels, then I would wonder if you have insulin

> resistance. 

>

> The observation that low cortisol causes high estrogen was

> made by Dr. Plechner, a veterinarian who saw it in every

> single animal that had problems.

>

> Hugs,

> Barb

>

>

> > > >

> > > > The following it about what my Dr. runs

> every 6 to 8

> > > weeks.

> > > >

> > >

> ===============================================================

> > > > Phils  Labs 01/11/2011

> > > >

> > > > VLDL Cholesterol 187 high range <150

> mg/dL.

> > > > Triglycerides VLDL-Calculation Cholestrrol,

> Very Low

> > > Density Lipoprotein 37 high range <30 mg/dL

> (calc).

> > > >

> > > > Lipid Panel

> > > > Cholesterol, Total 193 range 125 †" 200

> mg/dL.

> > > > HDL Cholesterol 46 range > or = 40

> mg/dL.

> > > > Triglycerides 187 high range <150 mg/dL.

> > > > LDL †" Cholesterol 110 range <130

> mg/dL.

> > > > Chol/HDLC Ratio 4.2 range < or = 5.0

> (calc).

> > > > Homocysteine Cardiovasecular 9.2 range

> <11.4

> > > umo/L.

> > > >

> > > > Comprehensive Metabloic Panel W/eGFR

> > > > Glucose 90 range 65 †" 99 mg/dL.

> > > > Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 25 range 7 †" 25

> mg/dL.

> > > > Creatinine 1.11 range 0.76 †" 1.46

> mg.dL.

> > > > eGFR NON †" AFR. American >60 range

> > or = 60

> > > mL/min/1.73m2.

> > > > BUN / Creatinine Ratio Not Applicable.

> > > > Sodum 141 range 135 †" 146 mmol/L.

> > > > Potassium 4.3 range 3.5 †" 5.3 mmol/L.

> > > > Chloride 101 range 98 †" 110 mmol/L.

> > > > Carbon Dioxide 30 range 21 †" 33

> mmol/L.

> > > > Calcium 9.3 range 8.6 †" 10 .2 mg/dL.

> > > > Protein, Total 6.7 range  6.2 †" 8.3

> g/dL.

> > > > Albumin 4.2 range 3.6 †" 5.1 g/dL.

> > > > Globulin 2.5 range 2.1 †" 3.7 g/dL.

> > > > Albumin/Globulin Ratio 1/7 range 1.0 †"

> 2.1 (calc).

> > > > Bilirubin, Total 0.9 rage 0.2 †" 1.2

> mg/dL.

> > > > Alkaline Phosphatase 18 low range 40 †"

> 115 U/L.

> > > > AST 23 range 10 †" 35 U/L.

> > > > ALT 20 range 9 †" 60 U/L.

> > > >

> > > > Hemoglobin A1c 5.4 range <5.7 % of total

> Hgb.

> > > >

> > > > Vitamin D, 25 †" Hydroxy, LC/MS.MS.

> > > > Vitamin D, 25 OH Total 71 range 30 †"

> 100 ng/mL.

> > > > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D2 <4 range ng/mL.

> > > > Vitamin D, 25 OH, D3 71 range ng/mL.

> > > >

> > > > Magnesium 2.0 range 1.5 †" 2.5 mg/dL.

> > > > Phosphate (As Phosphorus) 3.8 range 2.1

> †" 4.3

> > > mg/dL.

> > > > Uric Acid 6.2 range 4.0 †" 8.0 mg/dL.

> > > > Creatine Kinase, Total 308 high range 44

> †" 196 U/L.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Testosterone, Total 917 range 250 †"

> 1100 ng/dL.

> > > > Testosterone, Free 201.0 range 46.0 †"

> 224.0 pg/mL.

> > > > Testosterone, Bioavailable 395.9 range 110.0

> to 575.0

> > > ng/dL.

> > > > SHBG 22 range 17 †" 54 nmol/L.

> > > > Albumin, Serum 4.3 range 3.6 †" 5.1

> g/dL.

> > > > IGF Binding Protein 1  <5 range 

> < or

> > > = 34 ng/mL.

> > > >

> > > > CBC (Includes Diff/Plt)

> > > > White Blood Cell Count 6.4 range 3.8 †"

> 10.8

> > > Thousand/uL.

> > > > Red Blood Cell Count  5.63 range 4.20

> †" 5.80

> > > Million/uL.

> > > > Hemoglobin 18.4 high range 13.2 †" 17.1

> g/dL. 

> > > Note: high due to Dehydration from low

> Aldosterone.

> > > > Hematocrit 54.3 high range 38.5 †" 50.0

> %. Note: high

> > > due to Dehydration from low Aldosterone.

> > > > MCV 96.5 range 80.0 †" 100.0 fL.

> > > > MCH 32.6 range 27.0 †" 33.0 pg.

> > > > MCHC 33.8 range 32.0 †" 36.0 g/dL.

> > > > RDW 14.3 range 11.0 †" 15.0 %.

> > > > Platelet Count 144 range 140 †" 400

> Thousand/uL.

> > > > PV 10.5 range 7.5 †" 11.5 fL.

> > > > Absolute Neutrophils 4813 range 1500 †"

> 7800

> > > cells/uL.

> > > > Absolute Lymphocytes 1037 range 850 †"

> 3900

> > > cells/ul.

> > > > Absolute Monocytes 352 range 200 †" 950

> cells/uL.

> > > > Absolute Eosinophils 179 range 15 †" 500

> cells/uL.

> > > > Absolute Basophils 19 range 0 †" 200

> cells/uL.

> > > > Neutrophils75.2 range %.

> > > > Lymphocytes 16.2 range %.

> > > > Monocytes 5.5 range %.

> > > > Eosinophils 2.8 range %.

> > > > Basophils 0.3 range %.

> > > >

> > > > Iron and Total Iron Binding Capacity.

> > > > Iron, Total 118 range 45 †" 170 mcg/dL.

> > > > Iron, Binding Capacity 326 range 250 †"

> 425 mcg/dL.

> > > > % Saturation 36 range 20 †" 50 %

> (calc).

> > > > Ferritin 330 range 20 †" 380 ng/mL.

> > > > Vitamin B12 995 range 200 †" 1100

> pg/mL.

> > > > Folate, Serum > 24.0 ng/mL.

> > > >

> > > > C-Reactive Protein 0.21 range < 0.80

> mg/dL.

> > > > Cortisol , Total 18.7 range morning 4.0

> †" 22.0

> > > mcg/dL. Note: up from 12.2 six weeks ago on Prog.

> Cream.

> > > > Estradiol 8 low range 13 to 54 pg/ml Note:

> took 2.5

> > > mgs of Anastrozole the day before labs E2 levels

> felt very

> > > high.

> > > >

> > > > PSA, Total 0.9 range < or = 4.0 ng/ml.

> > > >

> > > > Myoglobin, Serum High 114 range 50 or less

> mcg/L.

> > > >

> > > > Pregnenolone, LC/MS/MS 262 high range 13

> †" 208

> > > ng/dL.  Note: I was not on Preg. Cream 6 weeks

> was on

> > > Prog. Cream.

> > > >

> > > > Creating Kinase Isoenzymes w/o total.

> > > > CK-MM 95 low range 97 †" 100 % of

> Total.

> > > > CK-MB 0 range 0 †" 3 % of Total.

> > > > CK-BB 0 range 0 % of Total.

> > > >

> > > > B Type Natriuretic Peptide (BNP) 23 range

> <100

> > > pg/mL.

> > > >

> > > > Coenzyme Q10 <4.0  High range 0.44

> †" 1.64

> > > mg/L.

> > > >

> > > > IGF-1 ECL 182 range 47 †" 264 ng/mL.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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Phil, when researching pregnenolone I read that the pregnenolone can help

the body make more of its own. Who knows how that was concluded, but it

could explain why you continue to have more pregnenolone than before you

started the cream. Or maybe the pregnenolone just stores well in the fat.

Just thought I'd throw that out there.

-Nigel

On 27 January 2011 11:02, philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

>

>

> Yes we talked about this but we need to see what happens when my Preg.

> levels come down first. Then we will see what he can do to fix this right

> now I am to do my Shots at .4 mls down from .5 mls if I have feeling of high

> E2 I am to go down to .3 mls on my next shot. If this helps I then go back

> up to .4mls. So far this is working I did a shot yesterday at .4 mls and

> needed less meds for E2. Today do far no meds for E2.

> Co-Moderator

> Phil

>

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Nigel Yes I think your right or like my Dr. said the supplements I am on for

Statin Drug damage most of it CoQ10 might have made the Prog. I was on back flow

into Preg.

• Ubiquinol Capliques Featuring Kaneka's Qh (400mgs) 3x’s/day mercola.com.

• Lecithin 1200 mgs 3 caps 2x’s/day.

• Acetyl-L Carnitine 500 mg 3x’s/day.

• Alpha Lipoic Acid 250 mg/day.

• Life Extension, PQQ Caps with Bio PQQ, 10 mg, 2x’s /day.

• Krill Oil capliques 1,000 mgs. 2 with food morning mercola.com.

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>

> >

> >

> > Yes we talked about this but we need to see what

> happens when my Preg.

> > levels come down first. Then we will see what he can

> do to fix this right

> > now I am to do my Shots at .4 mls down from .5 mls if

> I have feeling of high

> > E2 I am to go down to .3 mls on my next shot. If this

> helps I then go back

> > up to .4mls. So far this is working I did a shot

> yesterday at .4 mls and

> > needed less meds for E2. Today do far no meds for E2.

> > Co-Moderator

> > Phil

> >

>

>

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